Non-foxy Mefite delight? March 21, 2008 10:34 PM Subscribe
Greasemonkey for non-Firefox browsers?
I'd like to take advantage of Greasemonkey to make Mefi browsing more pleasant. However, while Firefox works great on Windows, I don't like Firefox's rampant memory and stability problems on Linux and OS X and would prefer to continue using my current browser on a non-Windows environment. Are there reasonable alternatives available to Mefites?
I'd like to take advantage of Greasemonkey to make Mefi browsing more pleasant. However, while Firefox works great on Windows, I don't like Firefox's rampant memory and stability problems on Linux and OS X and would prefer to continue using my current browser on a non-Windows environment. Are there reasonable alternatives available to Mefites?
I've tried Firefox 3 and is still buggy, sharing many of the same interface problems with its predecessors. I have to say that I'm not interested in switching at this point, but looking for a way to live a bit more comfortably in a Firefox world with what I can reliably use.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:50 PM on March 21, 2008
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:50 PM on March 21, 2008
Over the last couple years I find that I just cannot get by with less than two browsers, and I split my time between macs and pcs. FF and IE on pcs and FF and Safari on macs. I just don't see a way around it right now; some stuff works great on one and not so great/not at all on the other. MeFi is all FF on both sides of the fence for me, largely because of Greasemonkey. I've had it on my list for years and years to get some Linux time in, but just haven't (and I used to be all UNIX , all the time 20 years ago. I even use Opera mini and the stock Blackberry browser on my smartphone. Same deal. Some things work better on one, some things work better on the other.
Oh well.
posted by Rafaelloello at 11:27 PM on March 21, 2008
Oh well.
posted by Rafaelloello at 11:27 PM on March 21, 2008
Opera has user javascript which is the same thing, but actually built by the people that make the browser. Every metafilter greasemonkey script that I've used in Opera that was meant for FF has worked fine in Opera.
posted by bigmusic at 11:31 PM on March 21, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by bigmusic at 11:31 PM on March 21, 2008 [1 favorite]
Just to continue my diatribe:
It was so simple a dozen years ago, Netscape 3.0.1 Gold was all you needed. OTOH, Metafilter, Broadband, and Google bookmarks ROCK! So Kudos to the present too.
posted by Rafaelloello at 11:36 PM on March 21, 2008
It was so simple a dozen years ago, Netscape 3.0.1 Gold was all you needed. OTOH, Metafilter, Broadband, and Google bookmarks ROCK! So Kudos to the present too.
posted by Rafaelloello at 11:36 PM on March 21, 2008
For Safari, there is CreamMonkey, though I'm not sure if it's up-to-date with the latest Safari release.
First Google result for "safari greasemonkey" by the way.
posted by kindall at 11:53 PM on March 21, 2008
First Google result for "safari greasemonkey" by the way.
posted by kindall at 11:53 PM on March 21, 2008
A dozen years ago if I had heard the phrase "Greasemonkey for non-Firefox browsers" I would have assumed it was some sort of intricate sex thing.
And I'm pretty sure even now that "CreamMonkey" is some sort of intricate sex thing.
posted by L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg at 12:58 AM on March 22, 2008 [3 favorites]
And I'm pretty sure even now that "CreamMonkey" is some sort of intricate sex thing.
posted by L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg at 12:58 AM on March 22, 2008 [3 favorites]
would prefer to continue using my current browser on a non-Windows environment.
If you could like, you know, actually name the browser and OS you are using, it tends to make answers to questions about how to modify custom extensions a heck of a lot easier.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:35 AM on March 22, 2008 [2 favorites]
If you could like, you know, actually name the browser and OS you are using, it tends to make answers to questions about how to modify custom extensions a heck of a lot easier.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:35 AM on March 22, 2008 [2 favorites]
First Google result for "safari greasemonkey" by the way.
If I remember right, InputManager extensions are disabled in Leopard (which, with RHEL 5, is one of the two platforms I use 95% of the time). There is a way around it, but as near as I can tell this feature will soon be deprecated by Apple, anyway.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:00 AM on March 22, 2008
If I remember right, InputManager extensions are disabled in Leopard (which, with RHEL 5, is one of the two platforms I use 95% of the time). There is a way around it, but as near as I can tell this feature will soon be deprecated by Apple, anyway.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:00 AM on March 22, 2008
Anyone tried the Ruby-based scriptable proxy MouseHole? MonkeyGrease also sounds like it might have been interesting, but the site is unavailable right now - not a good sign.
posted by tomcooke at 2:24 AM on March 22, 2008
posted by tomcooke at 2:24 AM on March 22, 2008
This seems like an AskMe question.
posted by BrotherCaine at 2:26 AM on March 22, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by BrotherCaine at 2:26 AM on March 22, 2008 [1 favorite]
"Opera is capable of running many Greasemonkey scripts."
Opera also works well under Linux, unlike Firefox.
posted by cmonkey at 2:38 AM on March 22, 2008
Opera also works well under Linux, unlike Firefox.
posted by cmonkey at 2:38 AM on March 22, 2008
> If I remember right, InputManager extensions are disabled in Leopard
Input manager access is unsupported. Apple doesn't prevent access, but they're not responsible if they patch or remove something to breaks your hack. In other words, they're not telling you that you can't play on their lawn, but it's not their fault if you're in the back yard when they start landscaping with blasting caps.
In a quick skim, the following IM hacks work in Safari 3: Sogudi, Inquisitor and AdBlock. (Inquisitor's download link is currently offline). Unsupported hacks will typically work up until Apple changes whatever was hacked. This is less often than the screams of the offended would lead you to believe, but it is something that should be expected in a major software update.
As far as efficiency, Safari 2 was known to re-fetch images and linked files rather than using cached copies and I don't know if this is fixed in Safari 3. Meanwhile, Firefox 2 has a memory leak that's exacerbated by, among other things, animated GIFs. I'll continue to use both browsers.
posted by ardgedee at 4:02 AM on March 22, 2008
Input manager access is unsupported. Apple doesn't prevent access, but they're not responsible if they patch or remove something to breaks your hack. In other words, they're not telling you that you can't play on their lawn, but it's not their fault if you're in the back yard when they start landscaping with blasting caps.
In a quick skim, the following IM hacks work in Safari 3: Sogudi, Inquisitor and AdBlock. (Inquisitor's download link is currently offline). Unsupported hacks will typically work up until Apple changes whatever was hacked. This is less often than the screams of the offended would lead you to believe, but it is something that should be expected in a major software update.
As far as efficiency, Safari 2 was known to re-fetch images and linked files rather than using cached copies and I don't know if this is fixed in Safari 3. Meanwhile, Firefox 2 has a memory leak that's exacerbated by, among other things, animated GIFs. I'll continue to use both browsers.
posted by ardgedee at 4:02 AM on March 22, 2008
"Greasemonkey for non-Firefox browsers" - ?
I don't mean to alarm you nerds, but does it ever occur to you that your arcane computer-talk is becoming dangerously exciting for all those uncontrollable bestiality fetishists out there?
If Roderick, my pet long-haired hamster and bosom companion, is harmed in any way, I will be holding the moderators of this website PERSONALLY responsible for titillating wandering arch-perverts into a throbbing frenzy of zoophilic lust.
So stick THAT up your greasy monkey.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 8:07 AM on March 22, 2008 [1 favorite]
I don't mean to alarm you nerds, but does it ever occur to you that your arcane computer-talk is becoming dangerously exciting for all those uncontrollable bestiality fetishists out there?
If Roderick, my pet long-haired hamster and bosom companion, is harmed in any way, I will be holding the moderators of this website PERSONALLY responsible for titillating wandering arch-perverts into a throbbing frenzy of zoophilic lust.
So stick THAT up your greasy monkey.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 8:07 AM on March 22, 2008 [1 favorite]
*helps uncle Jack off a horse*
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:15 AM on March 22, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:15 AM on March 22, 2008 [2 favorites]
So you're not going to come out and say which browser you use? We're to guess that it's Safari most of the time? And you use red hat but not firefox. I'm seriously trying to help here but you're making it hard.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 8:16 AM on March 22, 2008
posted by mathowie (staff) at 8:16 AM on March 22, 2008
Use a Windows Virtual Machine on a USB stick hosting Firefox. Same browser, same operating system, no matter what computer.
posted by blue_beetle at 8:58 AM on March 22, 2008
posted by blue_beetle at 8:58 AM on March 22, 2008
Would you help you[r] uncle Jack off a horse?
-- Yeah I would help him. But I would need to have an Uncle Jack first.
---- lol u would jack off a horse
posted by brain_drain at 9:18 AM on March 22, 2008 [3 favorites]
-- Yeah I would help him. But I would need to have an Uncle Jack first.
---- lol u would jack off a horse
posted by brain_drain at 9:18 AM on March 22, 2008 [3 favorites]
I just found out today that Apple has disabled right-clicking on the forward and back buttons in the latest Safari. Unfuckingbelievable. Why?! Why?!
posted by dobbs at 9:20 AM on March 22, 2008
posted by dobbs at 9:20 AM on March 22, 2008
I just found out today that Apple has disabled right-clicking on the forward and back buttons in the latest Safari. Unfuckingbelievable. Why?! Why?!
That is weird. Though they seemed to have reduced the latency on click-and-hold, so the history menu pops up pretty quickly.
*helps uncleJjack off a horse*
posted by mkultra at 9:27 AM on March 22, 2008
That is weird. Though they seemed to have reduced the latency on click-and-hold, so the history menu pops up pretty quickly.
*helps uncle
posted by mkultra at 9:27 AM on March 22, 2008
You know... it's kinda nice to hear that other people have been having trouble with Firefox's stability in linux. Good to know it's not just me...
posted by ph00dz at 10:55 AM on March 22, 2008
posted by ph00dz at 10:55 AM on March 22, 2008
This seems like an AskMe question.
Yeah, but he asked a question 3 days ago...
posted by EndsOfInvention at 11:03 AM on March 22, 2008
Yeah, but he asked a question 3 days ago...
posted by EndsOfInvention at 11:03 AM on March 22, 2008
> I just found out today that Apple has disabled right-clicking on the forward and back buttons in the latest Safari. Unfuckingbelievable. Why?! Why?!
Calm down. Hold the left button down on one of the arrows. And calm down. The history menu will appear in about 1/4 of a second. And just freaking calm down already.
posted by ardgedee at 11:06 AM on March 22, 2008
Calm down. Hold the left button down on one of the arrows. And calm down. The history menu will appear in about 1/4 of a second. And just freaking calm down already.
posted by ardgedee at 11:06 AM on March 22, 2008
Calm down. Hold the left button down on one of the arrows. And calm down. The history menu will appear in about 1/4 of a second. And just freaking calm down already.
I don't want the history menu. I want to be able to middle click on the back and forth buttons and open those in new tabs. Used to work great. Not anymore.
posted by dobbs at 8:57 PM on March 22, 2008
I don't want the history menu. I want to be able to middle click on the back and forth buttons and open those in new tabs. Used to work great. Not anymore.
posted by dobbs at 8:57 PM on March 22, 2008
FYI, I'm using Safari 3.1, and that behavior works fine for me. I use SteerMouse, though, which maps Cmd-Click to the middle button. YMMV.
posted by mkultra at 2:05 PM on March 23, 2008
posted by mkultra at 2:05 PM on March 23, 2008
Thanks to everyone who provided informative answers. Much appreciated.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:04 AM on March 24, 2008
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:04 AM on March 24, 2008
Am I the only Linux user for whom Firefox has been completely satisfactory?
posted by flabdablet at 3:40 AM on March 24, 2008
posted by flabdablet at 3:40 AM on March 24, 2008
Am I the only Linux user for whom Firefox has been completely satisfactory?
Nope.
posted by inigo2 at 12:39 PM on March 24, 2008
Nope.
posted by inigo2 at 12:39 PM on March 24, 2008
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