My sentiment be scorned March 11, 2009 3:30 AM   Subscribe

Eep, sorry.

I was just ego-browsing a moment ago, and I stumbled across this Talk thread from a fair while back. I left a pretty douchey comment near the beginning, stuck around for a bit, and then sort of shot through without being contrite or anything like that. I just now actually read the rest of the thread and noticed a few comments, cortex's in particular, that generously, in a nonpartisan kind of way, pointed out what a knob I was being. Feathers were ruffled and so forth and strangely enough this normally wouldn't bother me, but for whatever perverted reason, I have a lot of respect for pretty much everyone here, because you've provided me with a lot of interesting content and insight over the years (I've only been a member for a bit, but I lurked for a long while), as well as a fair portion of chuckles, so I just wanted to officially apologise.

I'm not saying I won't be a knob again, because that would make things pretty boring, frankly, but I'm a couple bottles of wine in and for the first time in a while I've felt remorseful about something I've done, so, y'know, sorry.
posted by turgid dahlia to MetaFilter-Related at 3:30 AM (100 comments total)

Oh dude, I feel this way most mornings. The trick is to never look back at your history.
posted by gman at 3:52 AM on March 11, 2009 [6 favorites]


As long as you promise to be a knob again, I forgive you.
posted by Elmore at 3:55 AM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


fair dinkum, you're like a wombat's knob after he's been up all night rooting an ant's nest because he's just gone troppo from having gorged himself on miximatosed bunnies.

i mean this in the best possible way.
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:08 AM on March 11, 2009 [3 favorites]


Carnt.

Cuz.
posted by turgid dahlia at 4:30 AM on March 11, 2009


Next time you're a knob, please let Josie out, okay?
posted by jbickers at 4:38 AM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


erases "turgid dahlia" from list of people whose asses will be up against the wall come the revolution
posted by Kattullus at 4:44 AM on March 11, 2009 [2 favorites]


Doesn't it say in the FAQ or somewhere that it's probably not a good idea to post while drunk?

Way to ruin that idea.
posted by Grither at 5:05 AM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


Some of the best ideas in the world were come up with whilst their inventors were drunk.
posted by turgid dahlia at 5:11 AM on March 11, 2009


Heh....er, I meant nice post, even though you are/were drunk. So you ruined the idea that it was not a good idea to post while drunk.

Parse THAT while you're drunk, I dare you.
posted by Grither at 5:16 AM on March 11, 2009


What you need is some love and happyfilter.
posted by klue at 5:17 AM on March 11, 2009


You fucking wuss!
posted by dg at 5:33 AM on March 11, 2009 [3 favorites]


gman: I'd make the opposite recommendation. Maybe we'd all have a better time.
posted by a robot made out of meat at 5:38 AM on March 11, 2009


erases "turgid dahlia" from list of people whose asses will be up against the wall come the revolution

The wallflowers of the dance dance revolution?
posted by Pollomacho at 5:41 AM on March 11, 2009 [3 favorites]


Everyone needs a hug.

Unless they've got personal space issues.
posted by Spatch at 5:44 AM on March 11, 2009


Everyone needs a shrug.
posted by Astro Zombie at 6:16 AM on March 11, 2009 [3 favorites]


I could really use a ...
posted by heyho at 6:21 AM on March 11, 2009


Oh! You're a douche! That would explain why you might be so frightfully confused and defensive about vaginal moisture. It's okay, champ. You still come out smelling like a rose.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 6:23 AM on March 11, 2009


At least it was entertaining, darling Dahlia.

*sips martini*
posted by Mister_A at 6:25 AM on March 11, 2009


So far, I don't think I've been a knob. But can I say sorry in advance, in case I ever am?

Thank you.
posted by Fuzzy Skinner at 6:56 AM on March 11, 2009


I still love ya.
posted by schyler523 at 6:58 AM on March 11, 2009


Everyone needs a brisk rogering.
posted by slogger at 7:13 AM on March 11, 2009


Doesn't it say in the FAQ or somewhere that it's probably not a good idea to post while drunk?

If anyone has ever recognized one of my intoxicated posts as such, they haven't said anything.
posted by Joe Beese at 7:19 AM on March 11, 2009


So you're a snuggly apologetic drunk is what you are saying. You probably try to have meaningful exchanges where someone might chuckle and laugh at you for being drunk, but you get super serious and say things like "No, dude, seriously? I'm not joking, you know? I'm... I'm... Ahh. I mean, I've fucked up. I KNOW THIS! And I am sorry!" while making oddly unwaivering eye contact.

It's okay, you big lug. Sleep it off and we'll expect knobbery tomorrow. Please stop hugging me.
posted by jerseygirl at 7:26 AM on March 11, 2009 [4 favorites]


If it's any consolation, TD, I only thought you were a dick for a few moments. My feewings were hurt.

Then you got spanked in the thread and all was right with the world again.

Dunking my head in the baptismal font that is Askme, I probably deserved to get a little water up my nose.

Thanks, anyway, for admitting that you were a turd. You are officially off my Shit-list.
posted by Grlnxtdr at 7:31 AM on March 11, 2009


So did you ever figure out how to encourage your girlfriend to get bigger tits and beg you for anal?
posted by dios at 7:36 AM on March 11, 2009 [5 favorites]


You clueless bastards are grinding my gears.
posted by Fuzzy Skinner at 7:46 AM on March 11, 2009


I remember noticing that your comment seemed really off tone-wise from your regular stuff and I just figured you were having a bad day.

Still, it's always nice to see someone make amends. It means that you care enough to put yourself out there for criticism.

So: Noogies then hugs for all.
posted by quin at 7:52 AM on March 11, 2009


So did you ever figure out how to encourage your girlfriend to get bigger tits and beg you for anal?

"Dahlia, honey, you comin' to bed, you sexy thang?"

"Yeah, no, I'm not finished with Metafilter."

Hasn't worked so far, but some day she'll take the hint.
posted by Dumsnill at 7:57 AM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


What is ego-browsing?
posted by P.o.B. at 8:04 AM on March 11, 2009


I'm in favor of efforts to not be a knob, so good on you.

What is ego-browsing?

Presumably sifting, by one means or another, through site history with an eye toward you-centric stuff. Browsing your own commenting history, maybe, or doing a site-search against your username to see where people have mentioned/addressed you.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:20 AM on March 11, 2009


What is ego-browsing?

I'm not sure but I think that there's a risk of blindness attached to the activity.
posted by ob at 8:22 AM on March 11, 2009


Aww, you lovable knob you, don't you ever change.
posted by baphomet at 8:30 AM on March 11, 2009


Some of the best ideas in the world were come up with whilst their inventors were drunk.

other - far worse - ideas, such as using the word "whilst" when "while" would do just fine, are also come up with while drunk.
posted by shmegegge at 8:32 AM on March 11, 2009


"Carnt."

Kuntz?
posted by Eideteker at 8:34 AM on March 11, 2009


other - far worse - ideas, such as using the word "whilst" when "while" would do just fine, are also come up with while drunk.

Or whilst being a speaker of non-US English...
posted by ob at 8:49 AM on March 11, 2009


So this is an apology for being a knobst?
posted by maudlin at 9:26 AM on March 11, 2009


Only if he's been drinking Pabst.
posted by nebulawindphone at 9:38 AM on March 11, 2009


Don't touch that knob! We'll be back after these important messages.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 10:06 AM on March 11, 2009


What is ego-browsing?

Something my insecure ass does way too often.
posted by hifiparasol at 10:24 AM on March 11, 2009


Ego-browsing?
Is someone talking about me in here?
posted by TwelveTwo at 10:26 AM on March 11, 2009


What is ego-browsing?

The state of inebriation that precedes regret and remorse.
posted by Elmore at 10:30 AM on March 11, 2009


I don't get what turgid dahlia is apologizing for. tehloki liked his comment.
posted by cjorgensen at 10:34 AM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


Thanks for posting this. I remember that thread, and appreciate your knobpology.
posted by languagehat at 11:21 AM on March 11, 2009


A couple of bottles of wine is when I really start to screw things up here.
posted by Frasermoo at 11:23 AM on March 11, 2009


Dammit, turgid. You are not a n00b. Please refrain from distracting me from my pwnage like this.

Besides, you really couldn't possibly have said anything in that thread to erase the AWESOME that you farted out when you made this comment.
posted by koeselitz at 11:34 AM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


If it helps, turgid dhalia, I've been nursing an unrequited crush on you thanks to all your hilariously churlish behavior. In my darkest Metafilter fantasies, you, me, scody and jokeefe live in an apartment full of good books and snark.
posted by zoomorphic at 11:34 AM on March 11, 2009


Or whilst being a speaker of non-US English...

waitwaitwait... before I make a bigger ass of myself... do australians (and perhaps other non-US-English speakers) say whilst instead of while in casual conversation? I need to know, now. I feel pretty dumb, but I'd at least like to know definitively that I've been dumb instead of just suspecting it.
posted by shmegegge at 12:06 PM on March 11, 2009


I can't tell you conclusively, shmegegge, since I'm from the Pacific Northwest, but for what it's worth Merriam-Webster's calls whilst "chiefly British."
posted by Caduceus at 12:20 PM on March 11, 2009


Many of the Aussies and other Commonwealthers I've known do use "whilst". One of the reasons I use it myself. It's just so infectious.
posted by batmonkey at 12:23 PM on March 11, 2009


Yeah, a lot of things the Aussies and Commonwealthers carry are infectious.
posted by koeselitz at 12:26 PM on March 11, 2009


Pffft. I don't buy it. You're not really contrite, you just want the following comment to be read and favourited by a whole new bunch of Mefites:

So what you're saying is I'm not allowed to have a smart-assed opinion, formed immediately from the top of my head, completely bereft of facts, and without having first investigated the evidence and the procedures of the argument? What are you, some kind of test tube-juggling, statistics-crunching, peer-reviewed neo-Sagan? Nice try, Hitlerocrates!

I'm on to your little tricks.
posted by jokeefe at 12:55 PM on March 11, 2009


BRING ME THE HAND OF THE TURGID DAHLIA.

No, not his knob hand, you dolts!

tehloki is a slut.
posted by loquacious at 1:17 PM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


Eh. I didn't think that comment was that bad, in the overall scheme of MeFi snark.

Though it's been recently brought to my attention that I appear to be fairly tone deaf half the time, so I'm probably not the best judge.

That said, regardless of asshattery, the comment that koeselitz linked is awesome.
posted by Phire at 1:18 PM on March 11, 2009


do australians (and perhaps other non-US-English speakers) say whilst instead of while in casual conversation?
Not always, but yes.
posted by dg at 1:22 PM on March 11, 2009


jersey girl wrote "while making oddly unwaivering eye contact." I tried to get a mental picture of such an event, but the best I could come up with was turgid dahlia looking straight at the sheriff and insisting that he will not accept extradition.
posted by Cranberry at 1:26 PM on March 11, 2009


Ah, it's the stare of an incredibly drunk guy who put his Serious Hat on.
posted by jerseygirl at 1:29 PM on March 11, 2009


In my darkest Metafilter fantasies, you, me, scody and jokeefe live in an apartment full of good books and snark.

*auditions for role of "Wacky Neighbor."*
posted by dersins at 2:17 PM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


In fact, every word that ends -le in American English ends -lst in countries that still have Ol' Bessy as their monarch. For example guile is guilst in the Commonwealth.

Here are some more examples: bilst, ablst, whistlst, crumplst, ukulelst, douchenozzlst and spaetzlst.
posted by Kattullus at 2:22 PM on March 11, 2009 [3 favorites]


Hay guise what's going on in this thr-...oh I did this didn't I?
posted by turgid dahlia at 3:02 PM on March 11, 2009 [2 favorites]


...nursing an unrequited crush on you...

Strike previous, this worked out really well!
posted by turgid dahlia at 3:06 PM on March 11, 2009


do australians (and perhaps other non-US-English speakers) say whilst instead of while in casual conversation?

I just checked back on this thread. Yes, indeed it's pretty standard in British English. In fact I like "whilst" so much that I used it in my doctoral dissertation even though, due to the fact that I was at a US University, it had to be in standard US English. It was the only non-standard word or spelling, but it was my little concession to the other type of English. My advisor noticed but said that it was charmingly British. No one else saw it so I got away with it.
posted by ob at 3:37 PM on March 11, 2009


Yeah, plus "mathst".
posted by turgid dahlia at 3:49 PM on March 11, 2009


Fuck, I almost forgot that you're ALL a bunch of knobs, and not just you, turgid dahlia. Still, apology accepted. (And the apology from the rest of you lot?)

srsly i ♥ this place
posted by not_on_display at 6:13 PM on March 11, 2009


(And the apology from the rest of you lot?)

I'm sorry you're such a knob.
posted by loquacious at 6:45 PM on March 11, 2009 [2 favorites]


It's ok, we all get like that sometimes. Hug?

**rifles through turgid's backpocket**

See, all better! I've got some extra cash on me, lets go to lunch, my treat!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:00 PM on March 11, 2009


Ha, joke's on you buddy, there's no money in there! And that picture isn't of my girlfriend, it just came with the wallet.
posted by turgid dahlia at 7:54 PM on March 11, 2009


NON-APOLOGY TEMPLATE:

I'm sorry if anyone was offended by (thing I said/did). It certainly wasn't my intention to hurt anyone's feelings, or get anyone upset. I realize that some people are pretty sensitive, and I guess I should have taken that into consideration before I (thing I said/did). I promise that I will never (do/say) it again, you thin-skinned bunch of sobby milquetoasts.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 10:05 PM on March 11, 2009 [4 favorites]


Instead of lifting Turgid Dahlia's wallet, you really should have grabbed his sack.
posted by UbuRoivas at 10:11 PM on March 11, 2009


I not only liked the comment, I understood all the subtle nuances of its humour. I may be a whore, but even a whore needs a good fuck now and then.

(WARNING: PRECEDING COMMENT IS AGGRESSIVELY TONGUE IN CHEEK, THIS WARNING PLACED HERE TO AVOID A TURGID DAHLIA-ESQUE SITUATION)
posted by tehloki at 10:14 PM on March 11, 2009 [2 favorites]


...you really should have grabbed his sack.

I just finished a pretty awful book by Scott Sigler called Infected. I needn't bore you with the details of the plot, but it does have one quite remarkable sentence in it:

"Perry screamed at his genitals."
posted by turgid dahlia at 10:23 PM on March 11, 2009


Wait, did Perry scream at his own genitals, or some other male person's genitals?
posted by dg at 10:41 PM on March 11, 2009


If someone hasn't already made a site that generates a mad libs-style non-apology apology, someone should get the hell on that.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:42 PM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


His own genitals, that's what's so crazy about it!
posted by turgid dahlia at 10:47 PM on March 11, 2009


Wait, how do we know that Perry screamed at a male person's genitals?

Now I'm suddenly keen to find out more about the plot, specifically revolving around this genital-screaming-at incident.

Could "he" have actually been a T-Rex (please, please!) and Perry was only screaming at his genitals because that's about where his head came to on the ravenous dinosaur's torso?
posted by UbuRoivas at 10:51 PM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


tehloki, seriously, and I mean this in the nicest possible way....Fuck you.
posted by Grlnxtdr at 10:52 PM on March 11, 2009 [1 favorite]


oh, on postview, i'm not so interested in the plot any more.

unless Perry is a T-Rex, that is.
posted by UbuRoivas at 10:57 PM on March 11, 2009


Oh, sorry Tehloki.

Technically, that Fuck You was for the first thread, not this one.
posted by Grlnxtdr at 11:02 PM on March 11, 2009


Everyone needs a shrug shag.
posted by spiderskull at 12:02 AM on March 12, 2009 [1 favorite]


I may be a whore, but even a whore needs a good fuck now and then.
posted by tehloki


Just to be clear, while I do favourite you from time to time, please don't consider us to be an item.
posted by gman at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2009


Everyone needs a shrug shag bosom for a pillow.
posted by UbuRoivas at 3:54 AM on March 12, 2009


Grlnxtdr, that's vaguely retarded of you. "Fuck you" for what? Favouriting a comment?
posted by turgid dahlia at 6:09 AM on March 12, 2009


Yes, Turgid, it was for favoriting a comment.

I came in last night from a rowdy night of dancing, unwound a little by futzing around online, came back to this thread and promptly got a hair across my ass.

Truth be told, in the clear light of day, it was really meant for you.

Tehloki, I apologize.
posted by Grlnxtdr at 6:28 AM on March 12, 2009 [1 favorite]


cortex, couldn't you take this one step further and have it hit all the apology threads on meta and have it make a Markov-generated "non-apology apology." This would save you from having to fill in the mad-libs. Further, you could have PB make a "Post apology for this comment to meta" buttone next to each user's own comments.

I don't know much about Markov-generated stuff, but wouldn't these get progressively weirder and weirder as each apology would be included in the set for future apologies? In like four months every apology would look like it was written by sixcolors be near unreadable.

Off to make my first pony request!
posted by cjorgensen at 8:03 AM on March 12, 2009


This would save you from having to fill in the mad-libs.

That's like inventing a robotic penis to save you from having to orgasm. Filling in the mad-libs is the point, sir.

wouldn't these get progressively weirder and weirder as each apology would be included in the set for future apologies?

One of the curious (and possibly disappointing) things about a markov model is that it can't output pair-wise (or tuple-wise, for higher order models) combinations that are new to it. If it's capable of spitting out two words next to each other, that means it already knows that those two words can go together because it previously received input that contained that collocation.

So, in fact, no: you can't really make a traditional markov table substantially weirder by sticking it in a feedback loop. You can't get novel combinations without fresh input. You can evoke a slooooow change to the weighting of individual tuple probabilities in the table, but that's it, and even that probably won't have particularly noticeable or interesting results.
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:51 AM on March 12, 2009


Truth be told, in the clear light of day, it was really meant for you.

NOW I AM INTERNET-SAD AGAIN THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A THREAD OF HEALING AND FORGIVENESS
posted by turgid dahlia at 1:33 PM on March 12, 2009


tell me more about this robotic penis.
posted by UbuRoivas at 1:35 PM on March 12, 2009


10 vibrate
20 goto 10
posted by UbuRoivas at 1:54 PM on March 12, 2009


it's not very advanced in its design.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:00 PM on March 12, 2009


Grlnxtdr, permit me to elaborate: there's really no way of knowing why people favourite their comments around here, and it's pretty bad form to assume that because a comment has been favourited it's because the favouriter approves of its attitude or content. They may be interested in it for any number of reasons, as many negative as positive. Plus that thread was pretty old and I don't think it's very reasonable to think that people keep track of all their favourites all the time, so a "fuck you" is not only ill-placed, it is ill-intentioned, pointless, and somewhat sour.
posted by turgid dahlia at 2:37 PM on March 12, 2009



NOW I AM INTERNET-SAD AGAIN THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A THREAD OF HEALING AND FORGIVENESS

Drink your coffee and stop your whining.
posted by dg at 2:49 PM on March 12, 2009


or drink your whine and stop your coughing.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:51 PM on March 12, 2009


wine
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:52 PM on March 12, 2009


What's that wining noise?
posted by dg at 2:54 PM on March 12, 2009


Ayup, cortex is handy with the defuse-o-tron.

It could be worse, you could forget about the thread then notice a couple days later that some Cato Institute tool had responded to you in-thread and got sidebarred for it, now leaving you to realize it was too late to refute him as the world had probably mocked your foolishness and moved along. You can't make a hug-me apology post out of looking like a dumbshit, alas.
posted by fleacircus at 3:54 PM on March 12, 2009


Cato is like the best guy on Street Fighter II.
posted by turgid dahlia at 4:59 PM on March 12, 2009


Wow. Even with a huge warning I still managed to make somebody angry.
posted by tehloki at 2:16 AM on March 13, 2009


cortex, it scares me that that made sense to me. Since future apologies would be based off all prior sets you would essentially have a stasis level apology that, while being unique each time, wouldn't really have any growth, right? No new input means no chance for new combinations.

and

metafilter: like inventing a robotic penis to save you from having to orgasm.
posted by cjorgensen at 1:53 PM on March 13, 2009


It's not ego-browsing, it's ego-googling: the process of googling your own name in various versions to see {what others are saying about you,if people are talking about you}.

There's also reverse-ego-googling, which is mentioning other people's names in something you post that's indexed by google fairly regularly -- so that other people's ego-googling will have a place to land.
posted by baylink at 5:51 PM on March 13, 2009


If it helps, turgid dhalia, I've been nursing an unrequited crush on you thanks to all your hilariously churlish behavior. In my darkest Metafilter fantasies, you, me, scody and jokeefe live in an apartment full of good books and snark.

Add in Miko, and you've got yourself a deal. *starts packing*
posted by jokeefe at 5:56 PM on March 13, 2009


EEP, OPP, ORK AH-AH
posted by P.o.B. at 2:11 PM on March 14, 2009


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