The logos! They do nothing! July 8, 2009 6:35 AM   Subscribe

Why does the AskMeFi logo say "Ask MetaFilter" instead of "Ask MeFi"?

We have logos that say MeFi Projects, MeFi Music, MeFi Jobs, MeFi Podcast, MeFi Tenth, but not Ask MeFi. Could we get the AskMe logo to match the other subsite logos for added synergy?
posted by bjrn to Feature Requests at 6:35 AM (78 comments total)

Haven't you got anything more important to worry about?
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 6:36 AM on July 8, 2009 [4 favorites]


The most important ones are "Metafilter" and "AskMetafilter" -- why not change the rest to match those?
posted by Jaltcoh at 6:37 AM on July 8, 2009


Do Mods Dream of Electric Callouts?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:46 AM on July 8, 2009 [3 favorites]


Haven't you got anything more important to worry about?
posted by Chocolate Pickle

Let's be honest here, he posted this silly thread, but you took the time to comment and I took the time to comment on your comment.

Haven't we got anything more important to worry about?
posted by micayetoca at 6:48 AM on July 8, 2009 [7 favorites]


Simple answer: The use of "MeFi" in actual parts of the site postdates the creation of Ask Metafilter.

And is "for added synergy" a bid at creating a new "professional white background"?
posted by cillit bang at 7:10 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


And what about all those different colors in the backgrounds? Terribly unprofessional.
posted by yhbc at 7:10 AM on July 8, 2009


buys cillit bang a frickin coke
posted by yhbc at 7:11 AM on July 8, 2009


I just wish I could find something interesting to share with Meta* in all its incarnations; seems kinda picky to want the place to be consistent, don't you think? Hooray for Meta*!
posted by h00py at 7:23 AM on July 8, 2009


I am the little goat! You am the little goat! We are the little goat! HA HA!
posted by You Should See the Other Guy at 7:24 AM on July 8, 2009


So, did we ruin the "professional white background" guy's life, or what?

I sometimes wonder about the poor pinstripes and fedora guy, too. Was that whole thing (and ONGOING thing) basically the worst part of his life. Does he think about it every day? Poor guy.
posted by dirtdirt at 7:25 AM on July 8, 2009 [2 favorites]


Ask Metafilter is part of the Coprorate Office.
posted by The Straightener at 7:26 AM on July 8, 2009 [2 favorites]


Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?
posted by gman at 7:27 AM on July 8, 2009 [2 favorites]


> seems kinda picky to want the place to be consistent, don't you think?

Perhaps. I was mostly just curious about why it's MetaFilter instead of Mefi there (especially since the link in the top bar says AskMeFi). It's not like I sit here going "Grah grah, why aren't things consistent? And where is my white background!? HURF DURF PARADIGM!"
posted by bjrn at 7:36 AM on July 8, 2009


Yeah, and why does the menu at the top of the page say "AskMeFi" when the rest say "Jobs," "Projects," etc., instead of "MeFiJobs," etc.?

More importantly, who cares?
posted by sjuhawk31 at 7:38 AM on July 8, 2009


I prefer Ask.Me. Or AksMe, in American Hillbilly vernacular.
posted by theora55 at 7:48 AM on July 8, 2009


NO KVESTIONZ!!!!!!!! YOU VILL ACCEPT ZE LOGOS AS ISS!!!!
posted by The Deej at 7:48 AM on July 8, 2009


Could we get the AskMe logo to match the other subsite logos for added synergy?

Monk Meets MeFi.
posted by zarq at 7:51 AM on July 8, 2009


God help me for using a word like "branding", but the blue and the green are the two big entry points of the site, and as much as folks already familiar with this place are likely to grok "mefi" as a reference, folks who are new may not. Reiterating the long form of the site name in those two header graphics is more functionally useful than it is across the rest of the site.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:54 AM on July 8, 2009


It's not like I sit here going "Grah grah, why aren't things consistent?"

Given the evidence at hand, you might want to reevaluate that. Because it seems you do indeed sit there wondering about stuff like that, hence this post. I'm just sayin'.
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:54 AM on July 8, 2009


Haven't you got anything more important to worry about?

Here is a link to Chris Packham dropping references to all your favourite Smiths tracks throughout this year's series of Springwatch.

My point being that if you're going to be very obsessive about very small things, then it's best to be very obsessive about very small things.
posted by Jofus at 7:55 AM on July 8, 2009 [2 favorites]


Sorry, y6y6y6, I should have been clearer. I meant that I wasn't sitting here getting annoyed about it, I'm just curious.

And thanks for the answer, cortex.
posted by bjrn at 7:59 AM on July 8, 2009


Why are the other mods called jessamyn and cortex instead of jeshowie and corhowie?
posted by PeterMcDermott at 7:59 AM on July 8, 2009 [7 favorites]


Why do little blue midgets keep hitting me with fish?
posted by Confess, Fletch at 8:02 AM on July 8, 2009 [2 favorites]


I think corhowie is illegal in Georgia. Definitely in South Carolina.
posted by Ghidorah at 8:03 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


Finally something about this place that my non-MeFi friends will want to hear me talk about. And they thought it was all just petty nerd stuff.
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 8:05 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


Why are the other mods called jessamyn and cortex instead of jeshowie and corhowie?

Hadn't you heard?
posted by zarq at 8:11 AM on July 8, 2009


I do not suggest you discuss corhowie with your friends.
posted by odinsdream at 8:17 AM on July 8, 2009


Matt's always been of the impression that AskMe is a little opaque to outsiders.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:22 AM on July 8, 2009


What I desire at this point in time is a fresh cream puff.
posted by WalterMitty at 8:24 AM on July 8, 2009


Grah grah
posted by Greg Nog at 8:33 AM on July 8, 2009


I just like the fact that AskMe has become a noun.

"I don't know the answer to this, I think I'm gonna do an askme later tonight."

I like to believe that people unfamiliar with the site assume that askme is something similar to a scrying or a divining, where there is a dark ritual involving chickens and rum.
posted by quin at 8:37 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?

BECAUSE YOU COVERED ME IN HONEY AND SEEDS! GAH! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!?!
posted by The Whelk at 8:38 AM on July 8, 2009 [11 favorites]


quin: "I just like the fact that AskMe has become a noun.
"I don't know the answer to this, I think I'm gonna do an askme later tonight."
"

More thrilling is when you use it as a verb: "Hmm, I should probably AskMe this." "Ask yourself what now?"

Or as an adverb. "Bravo, you really solved that problem AskMedly."
posted by Plutor at 9:07 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


I do a big "who's talking about mefi?" search filter in TweetDeck, and one of the things I filter for is "askme" since that comes up sometimes, but it's also the main source of false positives because random people will jam that into whatever mouthbreathing shit they're blasting out at the world.

So the stream will be like:

- someone cites a great ask metafilter question
- someone links a lifehacker asmke roundup
- someone mentions a post on Music
- someone links to a funny comment in a thread on the blue
- "@LTrovato_93 i'm here looking for an aparment :D you can askme whatever you want"
- someone links to a metatalk thread about a meetup
- "RT @wattsStix: Shout 2the homeless guywho askme 4change I gave him 75 cents & he said "Thats all? whr the dollars?" Ungrateful HoBo! I C him"

It's like, you know how you think about drinking milk but end up actually drinking orange juice? It's like that.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:09 AM on July 8, 2009 [3 favorites]


More thrilling is when you use it as a verb: "Hmm, I should probably AskMe this." "Ask yourself what now?"

Oh, man, I'd been meaning to follow up on this blog post about verbing "metafilter" with a table of site names and nicknames vs. specific categories of use.

For example, you can post an AskMe, you can post a Metatalk, but nobody as far as I can tell has ever posted a Metafilter. And you can post an AskMe but you can't post an Ask Metafilter, I don't think.
posted by cortex (staff) at 9:12 AM on July 8, 2009


Two hallmarks of a genuine organic culture are its quirky inconsistencies and ad-hoc development. Only corporations, Leninist bureaucracies and cults even come close to achieving stultifying consistency, and it's best left to them. Likewise abominations like the word 'synergy', which, excepting technical senses, ought never to used outside of a coke-fuelled ad agency pitch or similar. :P
posted by Abiezer at 9:14 AM on July 8, 2009 [4 favorites]


4Change sounds like a btard charity. I assume they'd be raising money to buy abortions for black puppies.
posted by klangklangston at 9:17 AM on July 8, 2009


So, did we ruin the "professional white background" guy's life, or what?

what
posted by SpiffyRob at 9:27 AM on July 8, 2009


Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near?
posted by gman at 10:27 AM on July 8


Holy crap! After reading the post, I was going to make this same comment. But then I saw gman beat me, so I favorited it. Just now my officemate's horrible "classic rock" radio station started playing the song!

I have no idea what this could mean. I'm scared. Hold me.
posted by JoanArkham at 9:29 AM on July 8, 2009


It's not like I sit here going "Grah grah, why aren't things consistent?

I'm going to adopt "grah grah" as my new expression of general annoyance in real life. It's so much more pleasant than my usual stockpile of expletives and blasphemy.
posted by amyms at 9:35 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


cortex: "For example, you can post an AskMe, you can post a Metatalk, but nobody as far as I can tell has ever posted a Metafilter. And you can post an AskMe but you can't post an Ask Metafilter, I don't think."

You just Schrodinger'ed yourself.
posted by WCityMike at 9:35 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


Ha! Thanks SpiffyRob!

God, that was even fuglier than I remembered it.
posted by dirtdirt at 9:41 AM on July 8, 2009


INTERNAL MEMO:

JoanArkham has noticed the Repetitive Enhanced Synchronicity bug. Current LOGO2 reports say patch is complete. Please Advise.
posted by The Whelk at 9:46 AM on July 8, 2009


How would the logo change add synergy? I don't see how it would have a single thing to do with synergy. Either that word doesn't mean what I think it means, or it doesn't mean what you think it means and the word you were looking for is consistency.
posted by necessitas at 10:36 AM on July 8, 2009


To be really consistent, shouldn't it be MetaAsk, MetaJobs, MetaMusic, and so on?
posted by TedW at 10:37 AM on July 8, 2009


how come its "plate 'o beans" and not "plate of beans"? Answer that and you have your answer. It's all just so damn logical.
posted by HuronBob at 10:41 AM on July 8, 2009


Or better yet, shouldn't MetaAsk be MetaQuestion or MetaAnswer, so as to maintain the Meta(noun) construction throughout the site and fully synergize the synchronicity needed to drive the enterpise forward in the new millenium?
posted by TedW at 10:43 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


how come its "plate 'o beans"...

I thought it was Plato beans, in reference to his rejection of the Pythagorean Maxim.
posted by TedW at 10:47 AM on July 8, 2009


Why does the logo atop metatalk.metafilter.com not say MeTa?
posted by Eideteker at 10:51 AM on July 8, 2009


To be really consistent, shouldn't it be MetaAsk, MetaJobs, MetaMusic, and so on?

But "Ask" is a verb and "Jobs", "Music", and so on are all nouns. So, "MetaQuestions", surely?
posted by FishBike at 11:17 AM on July 8, 2009


Fer chrissakes! Just eat the fuckin' beans already!
posted by deborah at 11:25 AM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


I just wanted to pop in to state that the use of the word grok is an excellent thing.
posted by Saydur at 12:00 PM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


"Filter" has also become a generalized suffix within MetaTalk or MetaSpeak. Some examples would be: BeanFilter, SpouseFilter, TaterFilter, CoffeeFilter. You get the idea.
posted by effluvia at 12:04 PM on July 8, 2009


To be honest, I didn't really use the word synergy in any serious sense (I hope no one thought I did). But I guess you could use the word synergy to mean a logo change could have synergetic effects in the sense of strengthening the MeFi brand by leveraging the consistency from the monobranding.
posted by bjrn at 12:28 PM on July 8, 2009 [1 favorite]


I didn't really use the word synergy in any serious sense

It's okay, we know you were just leveraging its memetic salability to actualize humor product.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:40 PM on July 8, 2009


Re: MeFi Branding

Query: Is it AskMee or AskMeh? I want to be consistent as monetization efforts are engaged in the aural arena.

Thank you for your input.
D.
posted by donnagirl at 12:45 PM on July 8, 2009


donnagirl: "Query: Is it AskMee or AskMeh?"

Before cortex answers, I just want to say that he is wrong.
posted by team lowkey at 12:54 PM on July 8, 2009 [4 favorites]


Query: Is it AskMee or AskMeh? I want to be consistent as monetization efforts are engaged in the aural arena.

I'll pay you $1 to pronounce it the former way if ever our paths shall cross. If the latter ever enters my aural arena, I'll use the $1 to bribe swarms of little kids to kick you in the shins.
posted by empyrean at 1:12 PM on July 8, 2009


Considering that proper pronunciation of of "MeFi" is mee-fie, despite what some tonguetarded meffies may opine or insist upon, I'd say it ask mee.
posted by carsonb at 1:13 PM on July 8, 2009


OK, is that everybody with too much time on his/her hands? Then let's close this.
posted by Cranberry at 1:23 PM on July 8, 2009


So... AskMeh, AskMeh, AskMeh.

Because if it's not *shrug*, then it's the blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah, blah blah that will bring us whatever.
posted by team lowkey at 1:25 PM on July 8, 2009 [4 favorites]


You could have a hit on your hands there, team lowkey
posted by necessitas at 1:41 PM on July 8, 2009


So will the Metafilter t-shirts be MeTees?

Query brought to you by Matt's tweet regarding a certain delivery today.
posted by elfgirl at 2:33 PM on July 8, 2009


I'll use the $1 to bribe swarms of little kids to kick you in the shins

Wow, swarms of kids are cheap in your locale. No fears, though, because it's not like me to say words incorrectly, thus, I will be saying "AskMee".
posted by donnagirl at 2:36 PM on July 8, 2009


It should be Meta-filter, Ask Meta-filter, Meta-filter Music, and so on. I will accept nothing less.

yes I will

truthfully i ask for nothing

grah grah
posted by davejay at 2:44 PM on July 8, 2009


I didn't even know deviations of pronounciation for "AskMe" existed. I mean, sure, MeFi's always caused a decent amount of head scratching (I used to be in the Meh-Fee camp, but switched over to Mee-Fie about a year ago and haven't looked back), but AskMe? Really?
posted by Phire at 3:21 PM on July 8, 2009


Is it grahtitude if you are not really grateful? Or if your are just depressed.
posted by Cranberry at 3:26 PM on July 8, 2009


Metafilter: Haven't you got anything more important to worry about?
posted by turgid dahlia at 3:51 PM on July 8, 2009


And, of course, when is the logo going to fully expand to the true name of Askew Metallographist Filter?
posted by shadytrees at 4:05 PM on July 8, 2009


> I used to be in the Meh-Fee camp, but switched over to Mee-Fie about a year ago and haven't looked back

Traitor! BURN HER!
posted by languagehat at 4:25 PM on July 8, 2009


I have always taken arguments over the pronunciation of AskMe to be knowingly facetious, whether because the person bringing it up is trying to make some sort of point-by-analogy defending their preferred pronunciation of Mefi or because they are bored and making a joke.

But if anyone has any genuine stake in a non "ASK-mee" pronunciation, I'd be fascinated to hear about it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:33 PM on July 8, 2009


Most of my meta comments are knowingly facetious, but it hadn't occurred to me that we got points-by-analogies, so now I'm super psyched. Can we use those points as MeFi currency just like we do favorites?
posted by donnagirl at 4:52 PM on July 8, 2009


I vote for Ass-Me.
posted by fleacircus at 5:56 PM on July 8, 2009


The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?

Round, round robin run round, got to get back to where you belong,
Little bit harder, just a little bit more,
A little bit further than you gone before.

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Small wheel turn by the fire and rod,
Big wheel turn by the grace of God,
Every time that wheel turn 'round,
Bound to cover just a little more ground.

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down,
You can't let go and you can't hold on,
You can't go back and you can't stand still,
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.

Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?
Won't you try just a little bit harder,
Couldn't you try just a little bit more?
posted by terrapin at 6:49 PM on July 8, 2009


cortexAdmin: "I have always taken arguments over the pronunciation of AskMe to be knowingly facetious, whether because the person bringing it up is trying to make some sort of point-by-analogy defending their preferred pronunciation of Mefi or because they are bored and making a joke.

But if anyone has any genuine stake in a non "ASK-mee" pronunciation, I'd be fascinated to hear about it.
"

I vote for Oskmuh.
posted by Captain Cardanthian! at 8:18 PM on July 8, 2009


KFC. MTN Dew.

Need to know more?
posted by sourwookie at 1:38 AM on July 9, 2009


Ghidorah: I think corhowie is illegal in Georgia. Definitely in South Carolina.

Ah, but it's legal in Argentina.
posted by koeselitz at 3:38 AM on July 9, 2009


It's pronounced AxeMe.
posted by SpiffyRob at 4:59 AM on July 9, 2009


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