Huh? September 6, 2009 5:18 PM   Subscribe

deleted post Two things? Explicit and transparent on the front page and on the inside, or so I thought. What's the second thing?

This post was deleted for the following reason: This feels like a post trying to do two very different things in a way that doesn't make sense as a contribution to the front page. -- cortex
posted by Rafaelloello to MetaFilter-Related at 5:18 PM (35 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

It was deleted because of the crazy tinfoil-hat LaRouche shit. No argument is as stupid as an argument about the gold standard, sorry.

It would have been rude to put that in the deletion reason, but you knew it, didn't you?
posted by mr_roboto at 5:24 PM on September 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


Austrian School of Economics: Plo Chops for all!
posted by ericb at 5:25 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


What's the second thing?

#2
posted by Sys Rq at 5:27 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Gold-bugging Austrian Economic is (g)Libertarian, not LaRouchey.
posted by orthogonality at 5:28 PM on September 6, 2009


Who cares?
posted by mr_roboto at 5:29 PM on September 6, 2009


I would urge the moderators to close this whiney MetaTalk look-at-me-fest ASAP, before we're forced to witness a stupid argument about the gold standard.
posted by mr_roboto at 5:30 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Well, Rafaelloello, I'll tell you that from the wording of the post, I would have expected the song to play a much bigger role in the YouTube link than it did. I'm not sure why you played it up so much in the post.
posted by Bookhouse at 5:32 PM on September 6, 2009


What's the second thing?

socialism!
posted by pyramid termite at 5:34 PM on September 6, 2009


If you want to make a good post about Gorecki, do that. If you want to make a solid post about the Austrian school of economic theory, do that. If you wanted to make a post about that specific video for its own sake, I don't think it would have been a great post but you ought to have made the post clearly about that.

What you actually posted was a weird mishmash post where it wasn't clear what you thought was the worthwhile locus and the post was picking up flak and flags pretty quickly.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:35 PM on September 6, 2009


Deletion reason: Does not meet the Gold Standard of MetaFilter FPPs.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:41 PM on September 6, 2009 [4 favorites]


If you wanted to make a post about that specific video for its own sake

That's *all* I was doing. I think you read too much into my explanation and supporting links, which were not the least bit veiled... I don't know. If the video had 3000 views instead of 200, I wouldn't have bothered. It looked like something obscure that had not yet been discovered, which is what I thought MeFi was about.
posted by Rafaelloello at 5:45 PM on September 6, 2009


It looked like something obscure that had not yet been discovered, which is what I thought MeFi was about.

I think the point WAS the supporting links, kind of like my experience with a Mormon bake sale.
posted by StrikeTheViol at 5:52 PM on September 6, 2009


BTW, I had never heard the "stick to principle... phrase that was parroted throughout, so I searched and sourced that just to be informative, not propagandist.
posted by Rafaelloello at 5:54 PM on September 6, 2009


You framed the post quite poorly—it wasn't clear to a lot of people what you had intended it to be about. A better approach would be to explicitly introduce the content of the video and provide some context for why that content was interesting or noteworthy, if it was so. Mere obscurity doesn't make a good post; there's a difference between posting a real find and just posting something you found. Burying the lede doesn't help, either.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:55 PM on September 6, 2009


It's actually about three things. The third one is profit.
posted by drezdn at 5:59 PM on September 6, 2009


You framed the post quite poorly—it wasn't clear to a lot of people what you had intended it to be about

Maybe I should have started:

Mainstream Economists NSFW!!!!
posted by Rafaelloello at 6:00 PM on September 6, 2009


it wasn't clear to a lot of people what you had intended it to be about

Symphony No. 3 (Górecki) , effectively used as background music, ostensibly promoting the philosophy of the Austrian School.

Too literal to be taken literally?
posted by Rafaelloello at 6:04 PM on September 6, 2009


I would urge the moderators to close this whiney MetaTalk look-at-me-fest ASAP, before we're forced to witness a stupid argument about deletedthread.
posted by cjorgensen at 6:07 PM on September 6, 2009


Supermarket eggs are all smooth.
posted by Rafaelloello at 6:12 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Poor form.

Rafaelloello, I may very well be interested in your philosophy and your posts, but your form is too poor, and derails my interest. Your grammar is obtuse, your choices for links and phrasing is inflammatory, and while it seems you crave feedback your history on MeTa has shown you incapable of taking it into account. Work on your delivery, work on your drinkability, and then try again. Keep in mind that you have an audience, that you need to find a way to appeal to that audience (especially if a simple description isn't immediately intriguing), and that your audience has high standards, a refined taste, and a good sense of humor. Godspeed, and I look forward to your next MeTa post.
posted by carsonb at 6:13 PM on September 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


...and that your audience has high standards, a refined taste, and a good sense of humor.

I think these are all mutually exclusive entities.
posted by Rafaelloello at 6:18 PM on September 6, 2009


Now where am I going to post this Wham! Naruto AMV about Ludwig von Mises? cortex, you commie fascist.
posted by stavrogin at 6:20 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Metafilter: work on your drinkability.
posted by odinsdream at 6:22 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Shit, I was gonna post this sweet lady gaga/karl marx mashup but look what you goldbug fascists have done!
posted by Tyrant King Porn Dragon at 6:25 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


I think these are all mutually exclusive entities.

I think maybe you don't raining elephant maritime tuba pants sauce.
posted by carsonb at 6:25 PM on September 6, 2009 [11 favorites]


No no no. Stick to principal. It's the compound interest that's the killer.
posted by Fiasco da Gama at 6:25 PM on September 6, 2009


> Symphony No. 3 (Górecki) , effectively used as background music, ostensibly promoting the philosophy of the Austrian School. Too literal to be taken literally?

Too non sequitur to be taken seriously. All you've got are a link to a Lew Rockwell post that doesn't reference Gorecki at all and a snippet of lyrics which could describe pretty nearly any progressive act (or transgressive, for that matter).

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You asserted there's a relationship, so provide evidence and the post would have merit.
posted by ardgedee at 6:29 PM on September 6, 2009


Symphony No. 3 (Górecki), effectively used as background music, ostensibly promoting the philosophy of the Austrian School.

Too literal to be taken literally?


What's confusing here is the word "ostensibly," which makes it sound as though the linked video might not be a hacky piece of political-philosophical propaganda. When in fact the video is most definitely a hacky piece of political-philosophical propaganda.

But this is peripheral to the real problem with this post, which is that the linked video is terrible. Just atrocious. It's a bunch of stock photos set to nice music while disembodied voices alternate between batshit pronouncements and boring platitudes. No framing, however wizard-like, could have elevated a post constructed around this video into the realm of the acceptable.

Alternatively, what ardgedee said.
posted by DaDaDaDave at 6:32 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


Lyndon LaRouche wants you to know that the Beatles and the official pitch of middle C are both CIA plots against humanity. Did you know that Robert Beltran from Star Trek: Voyager has been part of the LaRouche theater movement?
posted by Kirklander at 6:33 PM on September 6, 2009 [3 favorites]


*works up fine, frothy rage*

I think these are all mutually exclusive entities


"...because you listen to Peter Schiff, the Piter DeVries to Ron Paul's Baron Harkonnen, author of such fine paeans to freedom as "Why Slavery Wasn't So Bad", and "Cheap Heroin: Pro-Market Health Care Solution."

*faints, spent*
posted by StrikeTheViol at 6:35 PM on September 6, 2009


Rafaelloello do you really need to start a MeTa thread every time one of your posts gets yanked from the front page? WTF dude?
posted by nola at 6:37 PM on September 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


Even the title of the post was about the Gorecki piece, and the content of the video had little or nothing to do with the use of the music. It was bait and switch, pure and simple.
posted by hippybear at 6:37 PM on September 6, 2009 [2 favorites]


I say, in my day we could walk from Philadelphia to Boston without stepping in anything but cow shit. We dealt in specie and we damn well liked it, and we didn't have any fancy-pants composers creating odes to our commerce. Now if you'll excuse me, young man, I have to tend to my bifocal collection.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 6:44 PM on September 6, 2009 [1 favorite]


You all know mathowie pays me for this, right? Holiday weekends are slow, and, well..., eyeballs are eyeballs.
posted by Rafaelloello at 6:44 PM on September 6, 2009


Okay, done here. Raf, consider not posting to metatalk ever again, and work on your post construction on the blue if you give a goddam about not getting them deleted for being shitty.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:46 PM on September 6, 2009 [33 favorites]


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