Reverse call out with a half twist June 18, 2010 11:33 AM Subscribe
Rory Marinich was a great sport about the Toy Story 3 duplicate threads.
When Rhaomi posted a better TS3 post than Rory's, Rory asked that his/her's be deleted. Rhaomi was classy about it, too.
Just nice to see this kind of thing, rather than folks wondering why their post was deleted or a quick, half-assed post on some bit of pop culture. Nice job, both of you.
When Rhaomi posted a better TS3 post than Rory's, Rory asked that his/her's be deleted. Rhaomi was classy about it, too.
Just nice to see this kind of thing, rather than folks wondering why their post was deleted or a quick, half-assed post on some bit of pop culture. Nice job, both of you.
BALEETED is like a cross between "deleted" and "baleen".
posted by GuyZero at 11:42 AM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by GuyZero at 11:42 AM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
Oh I just knew there would be a damn callout about the damn deleted post, dammit!
posted by Mister_A at 11:47 AM on June 18, 2010
posted by Mister_A at 11:47 AM on June 18, 2010
Yes, but Rory kicks puppies and then writes 18 paragraphs telling about it.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:47 AM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:47 AM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
GUYZERO is like a cross between "Guyana" and "Nonzero"
posted by frecklefaerie at 11:56 AM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by frecklefaerie at 11:56 AM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
I assume you are referring to his recent piece in Puppy-Kicker Fancy ?
posted by Mister_A at 12:01 PM on June 18, 2010 [5 favorites]
posted by Mister_A at 12:01 PM on June 18, 2010 [5 favorites]
Calling someone "sport" is demeaning. Like "chief" or "tiger." I will expect you to apologize forthwith.
posted by haveanicesummer at 12:07 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by haveanicesummer at 12:07 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
This is not an infrequent occurrence around these parts, and the principles are almost always good sports all around about it. Nice job, guys.
posted by adamdschneider at 12:08 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by adamdschneider at 12:08 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
BALEETED is like a cross between "deleted" and "baleen".
My post was swallowed by a whale!
posted by TedW at 12:13 PM on June 18, 2010
My post was swallowed by a whale!
posted by TedW at 12:13 PM on June 18, 2010
Flagged for insufficient drama.
posted by reductiondesign at 12:14 PM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by reductiondesign at 12:14 PM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
Flagged for insufficient drama.
This.
posted by coolguymichael at 12:17 PM on June 18, 2010 [6 favorites]
This.
posted by coolguymichael at 12:17 PM on June 18, 2010 [6 favorites]
A toast...to Rory Marinich. The richest man in town!
posted by Iridic at 12:25 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by Iridic at 12:25 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
Better a bucket of hugs than a bucket of male chickens.
posted by bonehead at 12:27 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by bonehead at 12:27 PM on June 18, 2010
Rory Marinich seems like a mensch, which is why I always feel like an asshole when my brain registers his name as "Rory Marinara."
posted by Skot at 12:31 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Skot at 12:31 PM on June 18, 2010
That's not chicken! That's KFC! They aren't even allowed to call it chicken anymore! Also, it is international exclamation point day!
posted by Mister_A at 12:37 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Mister_A at 12:37 PM on June 18, 2010
"Rory Marinich seems like a mensch, which is why I always feel like an asshole when my brain registers his name as 'Rory Marinara.'"
I always read "Marinovich", which makes me think of Todd Marinovich.
Sorry, Rory.
posted by mr_crash_davis mark II: Jazz Odyssey at 12:38 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
I always read "Marinovich", which makes me think of Todd Marinovich.
Sorry, Rory.
posted by mr_crash_davis mark II: Jazz Odyssey at 12:38 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
For some reason it make me think of Romy and Michele's High School Reunion, which is extra weird because I never actually saw that movie.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:41 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:41 PM on June 18, 2010
Cortex, if you'd seen that movie, I doubt you'd be able to think.
posted by QIbHom at 12:47 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by QIbHom at 12:47 PM on June 18, 2010
makes me think of Marinade
and so! we come full circle! back to chicken! or whatever you want! to call it!
posted by infini at 12:49 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
and so! we come full circle! back to chicken! or whatever you want! to call it!
posted by infini at 12:49 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
This thread is an enchanting and heartbreaking wonderwork.
posted by otio at 12:52 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by otio at 12:52 PM on June 18, 2010
Calling someone "sport" is demeaning. Like "chief" or "tiger." I will expect you to apologize forthwith.
posted by haveanicesummer at 3:07 PM on June 18 [1 favorite -] Favorite added! [!]
That's tough. That's double tough.
posted by toodleydoodley at 12:59 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by haveanicesummer at 3:07 PM on June 18 [1 favorite -] Favorite added! [!]
That's tough. That's double tough.
posted by toodleydoodley at 12:59 PM on June 18, 2010
Flagged for insufficient drama.
OUT IN THE SUNNY SUMMER GARDEN READING A BOOK AND DRINKING ICED TEA THE WHELK STANDS UP AND SHOUTS HARK! THE INTERNET NEEDS ME AND GOES INSIDE!
posted by The Whelk at 1:04 PM on June 18, 2010 [15 favorites]
OUT IN THE SUNNY SUMMER GARDEN READING A BOOK AND DRINKING ICED TEA THE WHELK STANDS UP AND SHOUTS HARK! THE INTERNET NEEDS ME AND GOES INSIDE!
posted by The Whelk at 1:04 PM on June 18, 2010 [15 favorites]
Calling someone "sport" is demeaning. Like "chief" or "tiger." I will expect you to apologize forthwith.
Buddy, you got to chill. We're just pallin' around, mate.
posted by griphus at 1:10 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
Buddy, you got to chill. We're just pallin' around, mate.
posted by griphus at 1:10 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
i love you the whelk
posted by emilyd22222 at 1:10 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by emilyd22222 at 1:10 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
hey emilyd22222 *I* wuz just gonna say that...
*jostles to the front of the line*
posted by infini at 1:12 PM on June 18, 2010
*jostles to the front of the line*
posted by infini at 1:12 PM on June 18, 2010
Rory Marinich for President!!!!!
of the Lady Gaga fan club
posted by iconomy at 1:12 PM on June 18, 2010
of the Lady Gaga fan club
posted by iconomy at 1:12 PM on June 18, 2010
I was wondering how many comments until Lady Gaga came up. Then again, on the mp3 player of my life, she's always up.
posted by QIbHom at 1:13 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by QIbHom at 1:13 PM on June 18, 2010
Better a bucket of hugs than a bucket of male chickens.
Seriously, rooster-buckets are obnoxious, what with the fighting and screaming.
posted by quin at 1:20 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
Seriously, rooster-buckets are obnoxious, what with the fighting and screaming.
posted by quin at 1:20 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
I was wondering how many comments until Lady Gaga came up
Shhhh! IF YOU NAME HER YOU CREATE HER!
posted by The Whelk at 1:28 PM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
Shhhh! IF YOU NAME HER YOU CREATE HER!
posted by The Whelk at 1:28 PM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
Not all MeFites are assholes. News at 11.
Rory has been a nice addition to MetaFilter. His comments are thoughtful and often interesting, and he engages civilly with the community, which is honestly something I wouldn't mind more of 'round these parts.
posted by Lutoslawski at 1:44 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
Rory has been a nice addition to MetaFilter. His comments are thoughtful and often interesting, and he engages civilly with the community, which is honestly something I wouldn't mind more of 'round these parts.
posted by Lutoslawski at 1:44 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
This may not be relevant, but whenever I've tried to enjoy NASCAR, I've found it to be too Rory.
posted by found missing at 2:05 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by found missing at 2:05 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
I once posted something vaguely rude and uncalled-for about Rory, which was promptly deleted by the mods. Nobody remembers what I said except me, so in the interest of personal redemption this seemed like the place to apologize. Sorry for being a butt, and good on you, Rory, old boy.
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 2:11 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 2:11 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
My Metafilter don't want none unless you got puns, hon.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 2:21 PM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by Horace Rumpole at 2:21 PM on June 18, 2010 [4 favorites]
I DENY! I DENY YOU SIR MIX-A-LOT! TODAY YOU WILL DENIED THRICE!
posted by GuyZero at 2:23 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by GuyZero at 2:23 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
:-)
(Repeat this smiley face until you get vaguely tired of reading and just click the favorite button to shut me up.)
Rory Marinich seems like a mensch, which is why I always feel like an asshole when my brain registers his name as "Rory Marinara."
I prefer my stripper name, Rorgy Manwich.
posted by Rory Marinich at 2:28 PM on June 18, 2010 [7 favorites]
(Repeat this smiley face until you get vaguely tired of reading and just click the favorite button to shut me up.)
Rory Marinich seems like a mensch, which is why I always feel like an asshole when my brain registers his name as "Rory Marinara."
I prefer my stripper name, Rorgy Manwich.
posted by Rory Marinich at 2:28 PM on June 18, 2010 [7 favorites]
Flagged for insufficient drama.
This.
Just you wait. Someone will be along to take offense for real.
posted by fourcheesemac at 2:28 PM on June 18, 2010
This.
Just you wait. Someone will be along to take offense for real.
posted by fourcheesemac at 2:28 PM on June 18, 2010
Thrice before the bucket of roosters crows?
posted by filthy light thief at 2:29 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by filthy light thief at 2:29 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
Also, I like Lady Gaga, but I like Guy Klucevsek more. Can we have more Guy Klucevsek threads so I can ramble on about his solo work and his collaborations with Accordion Tribe? kthx
posted by Rory Marinich at 2:30 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Rory Marinich at 2:30 PM on June 18, 2010
I asked a question about Harry Potter - man, what has this world come to.
(hint! if you want to keep a friendship to a fan of the series do not refer to the latest movie as The Adventures Of Somehow Awesome Boy and his sidekicks, Smart Girl and Working Class.)
posted by The Whelk at 2:37 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
(hint! if you want to keep a friendship to a fan of the series do not refer to the latest movie as The Adventures Of Somehow Awesome Boy and his sidekicks, Smart Girl and Working Class.)
posted by The Whelk at 2:37 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
BALEETED is like a cross between "deleted" and "baleen"
Baleeted.
posted by empath at 3:00 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
Baleeted.
posted by empath at 3:00 PM on June 18, 2010 [2 favorites]
I have a random question -- how come nobody cares about homestar runner anymore? They were the best thing on the internet for a couple of years and then all of a sudden people stopped caring. Was it because of youtube? Because Fark stopped linking them every monday? Did they just stop being funny? What's the deal. I can't remember the last time they did anything that became meme worthy, even though my friends still drop old school Homestar runner quotes at each other.
posted by empath at 3:11 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by empath at 3:11 PM on June 18, 2010
Homestar Runner jumped the shark when they introduced Señor Cardgage. Homsar was the first step and then Cardgage took it too far. Plus, uh, it got popular. And it became more targeted toward The Kids.
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 3:15 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 3:15 PM on June 18, 2010
Like a dude with a volcano fetish, we destroy what we love. Or something like that.
posted by GuyZero at 3:27 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by GuyZero at 3:27 PM on June 18, 2010
How do you destroy a volcano with a fetish?
Wait I - ..nevermind.
posted by The Whelk at 3:28 PM on June 18, 2010
Wait I - ..nevermind.
posted by The Whelk at 3:28 PM on June 18, 2010
I still care about homestar runner, especially Marzipan. but I also don't keep up with it and probably only know old school quotes (jammin' tunes, yo).
posted by Wuggie Norple at 3:45 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Wuggie Norple at 3:45 PM on June 18, 2010
Seeing the words "bucket" and "marinara" so close to one another just reminded me that for a couple of years (I was young, it was long before there was a Holiday Inn and a Wal-Mart and Pier 18 still had an awesome record store with Buggles cut-outs & Beastie Boys t-shirts and so many $1.99 cassettes...Fantasy Island would still have been Hartman's at that point), around my beloved Beach Haven West summer home a restaurant suddenly appeared called THE PASTA BUCKET and one of the menu items was, thrillingly, the BUCKET O' PASTA. It was around for maybe two summers.
It was sort of between the Arnold Palmer mini-golf course and Blackie's Clam Shack, right by the entrance to 72.
Thanks for the nice memory OP and infini and Skot and Rory Marinara Bucket. I will get you all something loverly at the Dollar Parlor next time my folks drive us all onto the Island.
Early '80s Jersey Shore summer lovin', represent.
posted by mintcake! at 5:10 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
It was sort of between the Arnold Palmer mini-golf course and Blackie's Clam Shack, right by the entrance to 72.
Thanks for the nice memory OP and infini and Skot and Rory Marinara Bucket. I will get you all something loverly at the Dollar Parlor next time my folks drive us all onto the Island.
Early '80s Jersey Shore summer lovin', represent.
posted by mintcake! at 5:10 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
Unpopular Opinion Time!
Both of those posts should have been deleted. "OMG $NEWPRODUCT LAUNCHED TODAY GUYZ!!!" is not best of the web.
posted by DU at 6:10 PM on June 18, 2010
Both of those posts should have been deleted. "OMG $NEWPRODUCT LAUNCHED TODAY GUYZ!!!" is not best of the web.
posted by DU at 6:10 PM on June 18, 2010
The marketing person in me asks you: What makes something a product? Or, rather, what would make something not a product?
Every action I do sells me in some way. When I write in certain ways it'll change how other people think of me. If I write about Lady Gaga it influences various people in various ways. Whether I'm conscious of the change or not, the change is being made and opinions are being formed.
Nothing's exempt from that. Design's not exempt from it, which is why we fondly insult ugly, cluttered web sites. (Nobody thinks we should love all web sites equally, right?) Music's not exempt from it. Even musicians who deliberately try not to change themselves because that would alienate the people looking for honest music... I mean, that's a downright decent thing to do, but it's still going to sell them to that crowd. Bill Hicks may have asked marketers not to treat his rant like a product, but his rant's one of the most famous in modern comedy. Hicks sold it to his crowd. And he knew he sold it, because he was a good comedian and knew what made things funny and what didn't.
Toy Story 3 is a work of art. Its merits can be debated back and forth (I just saw the whole thing and it's not great, though it is very very good), but it's not rendered valueless simply because it comes with a marketing campaign attached.
posted by Rory Marinich at 6:39 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
Every action I do sells me in some way. When I write in certain ways it'll change how other people think of me. If I write about Lady Gaga it influences various people in various ways. Whether I'm conscious of the change or not, the change is being made and opinions are being formed.
Nothing's exempt from that. Design's not exempt from it, which is why we fondly insult ugly, cluttered web sites. (Nobody thinks we should love all web sites equally, right?) Music's not exempt from it. Even musicians who deliberately try not to change themselves because that would alienate the people looking for honest music... I mean, that's a downright decent thing to do, but it's still going to sell them to that crowd. Bill Hicks may have asked marketers not to treat his rant like a product, but his rant's one of the most famous in modern comedy. Hicks sold it to his crowd. And he knew he sold it, because he was a good comedian and knew what made things funny and what didn't.
Toy Story 3 is a work of art. Its merits can be debated back and forth (I just saw the whole thing and it's not great, though it is very very good), but it's not rendered valueless simply because it comes with a marketing campaign attached.
posted by Rory Marinich at 6:39 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
What makes something a product? Or, rather, what would make something not a product?
Being for and not-for sale, respectively.
Toy Story 3 is a work of art. Its merits can be debated back and forth (I just saw the whole thing and it's not great, though it is very very good), but it's not rendered valueless simply because it comes with a marketing campaign attached.
Never called it valueless, never called it not-art. But a post on opening day is a press release that attempts to create "buzz" or "hype" neither of which belongs on MetaFilter. If Toy Story 3 is a true work of art, a post on it next year will be just as timely as this year.
posted by DU at 6:43 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
Being for and not-for sale, respectively.
Toy Story 3 is a work of art. Its merits can be debated back and forth (I just saw the whole thing and it's not great, though it is very very good), but it's not rendered valueless simply because it comes with a marketing campaign attached.
Never called it valueless, never called it not-art. But a post on opening day is a press release that attempts to create "buzz" or "hype" neither of which belongs on MetaFilter. If Toy Story 3 is a true work of art, a post on it next year will be just as timely as this year.
posted by DU at 6:43 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
I think that this is Rhaomi's secret power. A few weeks ago, I posted a really thin, SLYT Lost FPP on the afternoon of the finale. And then an hour later, Rhaomi posted this masterpiece, and was really nice to me about mine too. Yay Rhaomi!
posted by lunasol at 7:06 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by lunasol at 7:06 PM on June 18, 2010
Never called it valueless, never called it not-art. But a post on opening day is a press release that attempts to create "buzz" or "hype" neither of which belongs on MetaFilter. If Toy Story 3 is a true work of art, a post on it next year will be just as timely as this year.
So then would you argue that a post about the BP oil spill right now ought to be delayed until next year so that we can judge it in its proper context? I'm curious.
posted by Rory Marinich at 7:18 PM on June 18, 2010
So then would you argue that a post about the BP oil spill right now ought to be delayed until next year so that we can judge it in its proper context? I'm curious.
posted by Rory Marinich at 7:18 PM on June 18, 2010
I think that this is Rhaomi's secret power.
I'm convinced Mutants ala X-Men exist, but the vast majority of super-powers are too subtle or to maddeningly exact to be useful.
posted by The Whelk at 7:20 PM on June 18, 2010
I don't get how the BP oil spill got dragged into a conversation about product release announcements on the front page.
posted by DU at 7:24 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by DU at 7:24 PM on June 18, 2010 [1 favorite]
The BP oil spill's an instance of something that's getting multiple posts weekly, documenting it as it occurs. Is it wrong that MetaFilter has discussion threads about a current event like that?
posted by Rory Marinich at 7:27 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Rory Marinich at 7:27 PM on June 18, 2010
Hey man, back off Rory, man. This is his schmoopy thread, man.
posted by slogger at 9:07 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by slogger at 9:07 PM on June 18, 2010
Put on some trousers first, please.
posted by elizardbits at 9:29 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by elizardbits at 9:29 PM on June 18, 2010
I'm convinced Mutants ala X-Men exist, but the vast majority of super-powers are too subtle or to maddeningly exact to be useful.
posted by The Whelk
This is essentially one of the good ideas of Piers Anthony's Xanth series (we need not mention the multitude of bad ones). Everyone in his world has a magic power, protagonists and the like might have super useful shapechangey or lasereyes or whatever, but most people have powers like putting a pink spot on a white wall for five minutes once every fortnight.
posted by haveanicesummer at 9:31 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by The Whelk
This is essentially one of the good ideas of Piers Anthony's Xanth series (we need not mention the multitude of bad ones). Everyone in his world has a magic power, protagonists and the like might have super useful shapechangey or lasereyes or whatever, but most people have powers like putting a pink spot on a white wall for five minutes once every fortnight.
posted by haveanicesummer at 9:31 PM on June 18, 2010
Also the world is Florida, everything's a pun, and who doesn't like pedophilia?
posted by haveanicesummer at 9:32 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by haveanicesummer at 9:32 PM on June 18, 2010
Since when are trousers needed for hugs? Any hug that takes conscious effort is no friend of mine.
posted by Rory Marinich at 9:57 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Rory Marinich at 9:57 PM on June 18, 2010
I was ticketed for giving someone an unconscious hug once. And I had on trousers.
posted by Gorgik at 10:09 PM on June 18, 2010
posted by Gorgik at 10:09 PM on June 18, 2010
Yeah, Rory was an excellent sport (as was lunasol, with the Lost finale thread). It makes me feel embarrassed, actually, since I tend to feel pouty when a topic I was going to write about is posted. Yay for schmoopy!
DU: ""OMG $NEWPRODUCT LAUNCHED TODAY GUYZ!!!" is not best of the web."
It wasn't just about the movie, though. It was using it more as a jumping-off point to talk about Pixar, their impressive record, and where that record might be headed considering their increasing reliance on sequels. TS3 isn't even discussed beyond the first couple of sentences (and the last above-the-fold one).
And as for the laudatory tone, the 99% Tomatomator/91% Metacritic rating gives some justification. Though I admit I do loves me some Pixar.
posted by Rhaomi at 12:06 AM on June 19, 2010
DU: ""OMG $NEWPRODUCT LAUNCHED TODAY GUYZ!!!" is not best of the web."
It wasn't just about the movie, though. It was using it more as a jumping-off point to talk about Pixar, their impressive record, and where that record might be headed considering their increasing reliance on sequels. TS3 isn't even discussed beyond the first couple of sentences (and the last above-the-fold one).
And as for the laudatory tone, the 99% Tomatomator/91% Metacritic rating gives some justification. Though I admit I do loves me some Pixar.
posted by Rhaomi at 12:06 AM on June 19, 2010
BALEETED is like a cross between "deleted" and "baleen".
THE BASTARDS~! THEY KRILLED THE THREAD!
posted by zippy at 10:23 PM on June 19, 2010 [1 favorite]
THE BASTARDS~! THEY KRILLED THE THREAD!
posted by zippy at 10:23 PM on June 19, 2010 [1 favorite]
Ew. Gross.
A bit rude of you, don't you think? Marketing's one of the most valuable skills a person can have — not necessarily marketing-as-it's-taught-with-rules, but that baser idea of understanding what other people want, and understanding how to say things in ways that other people can comprehend. Marketing as end-unto-itself is sketchy, but marketing as part-of-a-larger-toolset is invaluable and one of my favorite subjects.
(Still trying to resist essayfarting in a thread with my name in the title.)
posted by Rory Marinich at 10:30 PM on June 19, 2010
A bit rude of you, don't you think? Marketing's one of the most valuable skills a person can have — not necessarily marketing-as-it's-taught-with-rules, but that baser idea of understanding what other people want, and understanding how to say things in ways that other people can comprehend. Marketing as end-unto-itself is sketchy, but marketing as part-of-a-larger-toolset is invaluable and one of my favorite subjects.
(Still trying to resist essayfarting in a thread with my name in the title.)
posted by Rory Marinich at 10:30 PM on June 19, 2010
Pepsi and coke spend over a billion dollars each year competing for market share. Wouldn't an alternate world where they spent half that each (thereby leaving their respective market shares unchanged) and donated the rest to charity be preferable?
Marketing is an arms race; that you'll be left behind if you don't participate doesn't make it any more palatable.
posted by Pyry at 2:35 AM on June 20, 2010
Marketing is an arms race; that you'll be left behind if you don't participate doesn't make it any more palatable.
posted by Pyry at 2:35 AM on June 20, 2010
forget donating to charity, if Coke would simply start what Colalife has been requesting that in itself would make a humongous difference
posted by infini at 2:55 AM on June 20, 2010
posted by infini at 2:55 AM on June 20, 2010
Ew. Gross
Excuse me? So not only do you have a problem with artists, but also with people in my profession. Duly fucking noted.
C, WAA.
posted by zarq at 5:01 AM on June 20, 2010
Excuse me? So not only do you have a problem with artists, but also with people in my profession. Duly fucking noted.
C, WAA.
posted by zarq at 5:01 AM on June 20, 2010
There's a difference between marketing and the marketing industry. Marketing is a series of skills that identify what people want and figure out how to say things in ways they'll understand. Those skills can be used for good or for evil.
It's like how television gives us Mad Men at the same time it gives us The Bachelor. It's not the medium's fault that it can be used abusively.
posted by Rory Marinich at 6:42 AM on June 20, 2010
It's like how television gives us Mad Men at the same time it gives us The Bachelor. It's not the medium's fault that it can be used abusively.
posted by Rory Marinich at 6:42 AM on June 20, 2010
(I think advertising/media analysis should be a required course in schools and should be taught eight years in a row or something outrageous. The cure for excessive/uncivil advertising is understanding ads well enough that you're not as easily swayed.)
posted by Rory Marinich at 6:45 AM on June 20, 2010
posted by Rory Marinich at 6:45 AM on June 20, 2010
Pepsi and coke spend over a billion dollars each year competing for market share. Wouldn't an alternate world where they spent half that each (thereby leaving their respective market shares unchanged) and donated the rest to charity be preferable?
The folks over at The Dr. Pepper Snapple Group think that's a mighty fine plan you've put together there. And yes...the corporations really did get to humping on each other behind the woodshed and one of them gave birth to something called the Dr. Pepper Snapple Group.
posted by billyfleetwood at 6:56 AM on June 20, 2010
The folks over at The Dr. Pepper Snapple Group think that's a mighty fine plan you've put together there. And yes...the corporations really did get to humping on each other behind the woodshed and one of them gave birth to something called the Dr. Pepper Snapple Group.
posted by billyfleetwood at 6:56 AM on June 20, 2010
Pepsi and coke spend over a billion dollars each year competing for market share. Wouldn't an alternate world where they spent half that each (thereby leaving their respective market shares unchanged) and donated the rest to charity be preferable?
Marketing is an arms race; that you'll be left behind if you don't participate doesn't make it any more palatable.
Negativland made that very suggestion in a proposal in the liner notes for their album Dispepsi.
posted by shmegegge at 10:51 AM on June 20, 2010
Marketing is an arms race; that you'll be left behind if you don't participate doesn't make it any more palatable.
Negativland made that very suggestion in a proposal in the liner notes for their album Dispepsi.
posted by shmegegge at 10:51 AM on June 20, 2010
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