I don't get "chatfilter" July 25, 2010 10:38 AM   Subscribe

How come this question isn't considered chatfilter?

I admit I really don't get what is considered chat filter and what is not. I mean, I get that the OP in this question wants some information from the Metafilter community, but the information the OP is requesting seems...kind of chatty.
posted by dfriedman to Etiquette/Policy at 10:38 AM (13 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite

My take is there's a concrete problem to be solved, succinctly stated: "I lost a bunch of years of my life to a really bad relationship and I want to come up with a more empowering story of my life." and they want other examples of people having done that.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:40 AM on July 25, 2010 [4 favorites]


but the information the OP is requesting seems...kind of chatty

Except this part:

2) Resources about how to do this: books, techniques, websites, movies with examples...
posted by SpacemanStix at 10:43 AM on July 25, 2010


Except this part:

Yeah, that's a fair point. I guess I saw all the other ancillary stuff first.

And I get jessamyn's point about the concrete problem to be solved...
posted by dfriedman at 10:44 AM on July 25, 2010 [1 favorite]


And when we're looking at a question that has a combination of chatty-seeming elements and concrete requests for info/resources/guidance etc, we'll generally try to opt toward a generous reading that focuses on that latter part when we evaluate whether to leave it up. It comes down to a judgement call, though, as we can't really know for sure how folks are going to react to a question if we decide to let it fly in that sort of circumstance.

Certainly it's not weird that borderline questions raise eyebrows, but it's an inevitable part of having less than hyperspecific legalistic rules for allowable questions, and so here we are.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:50 AM on July 25, 2010 [1 favorite]


The OP clearly listed "my question(s)":

1) Please tell me stories of your own or people you know about how they changed their personal stories in this way and reinvented themselves.
2) If you have analyzed how this works, and can explain it to me, please do so!
2) Resources about how to do this: books, techniques, websites, movies with examples...


Of those, #2 and #3 are straightforwardly asking a "problem to be solved." So two-thirds of the post isn't even arguably chatfilter. Only #1 is arguably chatfilter, and the OP gives an extensive explanation for how it's linked to the "problem to be solved" part of the question.
posted by Jaltcoh at 10:53 AM on July 25, 2010 [1 favorite]


I think it's not a great question, but it's a "legal" question with regard to AskMe.
posted by klangklangston at 11:17 AM on July 25, 2010


There are no bad questions, klang, only bad people.
posted by carsonb at 11:29 AM on July 25, 2010 [2 favorites]


You were the kid in class who always asked for specifics about homework weren't you?
posted by new brand day at 12:16 PM on July 25, 2010 [2 favorites]


This question seemed like chatfilter to me--it claims to be for a writing project, but otherwise falls completely into the "let's tell stories, I'll start with mine" model that is supposed to be anathema. The question as phrased seemed too vague to guide a writing project or be otherwise useful; but the OP seems to have gotten a lot of answers that seem helpful, so I guess I won't fret about it, except that it bothers me when I don't understand something and clearly I don't have a strong grasp of the line that sets chatfilter off from the rest of the world.

I did FIAMO, but when I saw the title of this post, I thought it was going to be about that question.
posted by not that girl at 12:19 PM on July 25, 2010


I think it's not a great question, but it's a "legal" question with regard to AskMe.

That's my take on it.

There are no bad questions, klang, only bad people.

No, there are very, very bad questions, too.
posted by Forktine at 4:34 PM on July 25, 2010


No, there are very, very bad questions, too.

Q: I have herpes. When I am having an outbreak what is the best kind of magic marker to cover it up with by drawing a temporary tattoo? Permanent Sharpie? (It only has to fool my date for a few hours.)

Q: My neighbor has very fat wiener dogs, and I can't stop imagining how tasty these wiener dogs would be. If I barbecue outside, how can I ensure that my neighbor does not recognize his dogs?

Q: My 30th birthday is coming up and I want to celebrate! Unfortunately I'm in credit card debt up to my eyeballs. How can I word an invitation to my friends asking for enough money to throw a party in Paris? Would it be cool to stay at a nicer hotel myself than my friends (I've always wanted to stay at the George V.)
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 6:14 AM on July 26, 2010 [5 favorites]


Hotel de Crillon > George V.
posted by dfriedman at 6:34 AM on July 26, 2010


Q: I have herpes. When I am having an outbreak what is the best kind of magic marker to cover it up with by drawing a temporary tattoo? Permanent Sharpie? (It only has to fool my date for a few hours.)

Q: My neighbor has very fat wiener dogs, and I can't stop imagining how tasty these wiener dogs would be. If I barbecue outside, how can I ensure that my neighbor does not recognize his dogs?

Q: My 30th birthday is coming up and I want to celebrate! Unfortunately I'm in credit card debt up to my eyeballs. How can I word an invitation to my friends asking for enough money to throw a party in Paris? Would it be cool to stay at a nicer hotel myself than my friends (I've always wanted to stay at the George V.)


I hope you weren't one of those people asking for an AskMe question queue.
posted by knapah at 8:28 AM on July 26, 2010


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