Is a post with no working links really a working post anymore? Oh the philosophical ramifications... February 10, 2011 3:02 PM   Subscribe

All the links on this post are sadly broken...

Looks like the Youtube user that posted these videos has removed them:

http://www.metafilter.com/100120/O-to-speed-where-there-is-space-enough-and-air-enough-at-last

I tried to flag it, but I think I clicked on the wrong flag reason.
posted by antifuse to Etiquette/Policy at 3:02 PM (25 comments total)

Its from a week ago. We don't usually take down a post if the links are removed after the fact. Same day? Maybe.

It's just the general cruft of the web.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:05 PM on February 10, 2011


What's a cruft?
posted by jabberjaw at 3:13 PM on February 10, 2011


The outfide of a loaf.
posted by Wolfdog at 3:17 PM on February 10, 2011 [39 favorites]


Is a wikipedia citation okay?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:17 PM on February 10, 2011 [1 favorite]


Incidentally, why do people keep linking to the https wiki site instead of the regular one so much lately?
posted by elizardbits at 3:22 PM on February 10, 2011


They're probably running the HTTPS Everywhere plugin for Filefox.
posted by Emanuel at 3:24 PM on February 10, 2011 [1 favorite]


> Incidentally, why do people keep linking to the https wiki site instead of the regular one so much lately?

They're probably on some public WiFi and using something like HTTPS Everywhere.
posted by Burhanistan at 3:24 PM on February 10, 2011


They're probably running the HTTPS Everywhere plugin

Yes! Which gives me interesting results sometimes but seems to have left my identity free from absconsion!
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:28 PM on February 10, 2011


Fair enough. I guess I just have to be quicker at catching up on my RSS feeds. :)
posted by antifuse at 3:30 PM on February 10, 2011


jessamyn: "Is a wikipedia citation okay?"

Huh. I always thought cruft came from "hand-crufted," but now that I think about it, that doesn't explain anything. Definition of recursive, see recursive.
posted by workerant at 3:35 PM on February 10, 2011


ooh, neato.
posted by elizardbits at 3:36 PM on February 10, 2011


I am the cruftmaster. Are you the rakekeeper?
posted by loquacious at 3:37 PM on February 10, 2011 [1 favorite]


Cruft is the stuff you find in your belly button after wearing a new shirt.
posted by bonehead at 3:38 PM on February 10, 2011


That Wiki page on Cruft needs a link to "Crapware".
posted by Burhanistan at 3:42 PM on February 10, 2011


There is a Cruft Lab at Harvard, but they don't seem to have found a cure.
posted by nebulawindphone at 3:52 PM on February 10, 2011 [1 favorite]


There's another copy of the same video here (though it's not in HD). So cool!
posted by Rhaomi at 3:52 PM on February 10, 2011


...and this one has the HD video, but with a different soundtrack.
posted by Rhaomi at 3:56 PM on February 10, 2011


I always thought of cruft as a type of kipple
posted by The Whelk at 4:24 PM on February 10, 2011


jessamyn: "Is a wikipedia citation okay"

I went through a rigamarole where a professor groused about wikipedia and how it wasn't a reputable source. Last week I made the mistake of asking in jest what if a notable academic edited the page; would that make his contribution reputable? He almost threw a coffee cup at me...
posted by boo_radley at 4:27 PM on February 10, 2011


I was gonna make the stupid Kipling joke here but I guess I've been beaten to it.
posted by nebulawindphone at 4:27 PM on February 10, 2011


The outfide of a loaf.

We need to get a pun thread around the posting guidelines.
posted by doublehappy at 4:53 PM on February 10, 2011


Link rot is a fact of life on the web.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 4:59 PM on February 10, 2011


I went through a rigamarole where a professor groused about wikipedia and how it wasn't a reputable source.

Hah! I have a tendency to piss professors off (and astound students) by being somewhat nonchalant about Wikipedia. I use it, so who am I to be a hypocrite and say, 'no, never use this bad, bad resource.' What I tell students is be smart about it and use the footnotes (and for the love of God, don't cite it in your papers! It's a starting source, not a citing source). If there are no footnotes in an entry or they're wonky, well, you can see where I'm going. But really, not every Wikipedia entry is that damn Octopus Tree Snake or whatever.
posted by librarylis at 9:31 PM on February 10, 2011


Agree with using Wikipedia as a starting source. It is almost always my first source if only to get an overview of the where to look, who to read, and what the hell "cruft" means according to the wider hive. It's the equivalent of a conversation after the lecture except the conversation is with thousands of people. As with any source, lecturers, books, tv documentaries, it's about knowing what to listen to and what to ignore.
posted by doublehappy at 11:54 PM on February 10, 2011


This makes for an interesting bean to add to my plate: if all my links are broken, do i exist?
posted by infini at 11:52 AM on February 12, 2011


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