Is this a self-link? September 6, 2011 6:35 PM   Subscribe

No self-linking, but what about stuff you're tangentially involved with?

I have a MeFi post I'd like to make about an upcoming event- It's history, notable participants etc.

However, this year I'm both volunteering at and am on the marketing team for said event. I have no material stake in it, I'm not the creator, I'm just involved is a kind of secondary capacity.

Would making that post BEFORE the event violate self-link rules? Would making it AFTER the event?
posted by GilloD to Etiquette/Policy at 6:35 PM (70 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

If you're involved in marketing it in anyway that's a screeching-tires situation. If it's neat, someone else might post about it. If no one else posts about it, them's the breaks, almost everything doesn't get ever posted to Metafilter.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:37 PM on September 6, 2011 [18 favorites]


Ah, the sweet, screeching tires of marketing!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 6:41 PM on September 6, 2011 [8 favorites]


am on the marketing team for said event

SCCRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

What?

Oh. What cortex said.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:42 PM on September 6, 2011 [18 favorites]


Of course if this event is a tire sale, then you've both been totally owned.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 6:47 PM on September 6, 2011 [42 favorites]


"On the marketing team for" implies to me a lot of non-tangential engagement in something.

Or, you know, what jess and cortex said.
posted by gingerbeer at 6:50 PM on September 6, 2011


Wait, you're on the marketing team for 9/11?
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:54 PM on September 6, 2011 [12 favorites]


MetaFilter: almost everything never gets posted
posted by carsonb at 6:55 PM on September 6, 2011 [7 favorites]


I once asked the mods about if it was okay if I made a post that would have included a link to an organization run by a guy I had met once; I had no ongoing involvement in the organization. That was okay. (I never got around to making the post; if I had, it would also have included a link to the sound of screeching peregrines.)
posted by rtha at 6:57 PM on September 6, 2011


I'm just glad to be on the team.
posted by box at 6:59 PM on September 6, 2011


The protein-from-the-sea team? Get away from me, man.
posted by seanmpuckett at 7:15 PM on September 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


If your job is to get the word out, then the word should not be gotten out on MeFi.
posted by DU at 7:19 PM on September 6, 2011


and am on the marketing team

Essentially what that means, or at least give the perception of, is that you want to use Metafilter to market it, to shill for it, soft advertise, etc.

smell that burning rubber man
posted by edgeways at 7:20 PM on September 6, 2011


Wait, you're on the marketing team for 9/11?

I kind of hate myself for thinking that this is probably a very real thing, albeit one I really need no confirmation for.
posted by Ufez Jones at 7:23 PM on September 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


"Wait, you're on the marketing team for 9/11?"

Making sure you never forget.
posted by klangklangston at 7:46 PM on September 6, 2011 [5 favorites]


example of screeching tires marketing here
posted by mannequito at 7:47 PM on September 6, 2011


almost everything doesn't get ever posted to Metafilter.

And you should see some of the things that do. I would never post my project to any site that would have my project as a post.
posted by The White Hat at 7:54 PM on September 6, 2011


Burning Rubber Man is the event held annually at Black Dump City, and involves setting ablaze a giant humanoid figure made entire of old tires.
posted by hippybear at 7:57 PM on September 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Understood! No posts about (REDACTED) from me!
posted by GilloD at 8:11 PM on September 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


but I could really use some new tires..
posted by fake at 8:17 PM on September 6, 2011


Wait, you're on the marketing team for 9/11?

---

As the 10th anniversary nears, however, marketers, media companies and advertising agencies are changing course, involving themselves with sponsorships, screenings, fund-raisers, programming and other highly visible activities.
posted by Trurl at 8:25 PM on September 6, 2011


Burning Pepsi Blue rubber Batman!
posted by arcticseal at 8:37 PM on September 6, 2011


SCCRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

What?


Hey now, you're an All Star get your game on, go…
posted by grouse at 8:39 PM on September 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Of course if this event is a tire sale, then you've both been totally owned.

Or if it's a Saved by the Bell type reunion event.
posted by uncanny hengeman at 10:01 PM on September 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


The FAQ, which is up there at the top of your screen, has a very handy link to the Metafilter contact form. It's a great way to get in touch with the mods for questions exactly such as these!

I've asked about several potential FPPs to which I was much more tangentially than your situation -- i.e., a newspaper article by a comedian I've appeared in a multi-comic show with.) The answer to anything I've considered ambiguous is no.

Kind of like I've been told that no one every ruined their life by NOT drinking? No one every cheapened Metafilter by not posting an FPP.
posted by msalt at 10:04 PM on September 6, 2011




what about posts about people you've met once or twice, but aren't friends with?
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 10:32 PM on September 6, 2011


what about posts about people you've met once or twice, but aren't friends with?

Our general rule of thumb is "If you have to ask us, it's probably not a good idea." The other general litmus test is what we call the smell test. That is, if people on MeFi knew the degree to which you knew the person involved in the post, would they be likely to call bullshit or not? I'm aware that not everyone has to hive mind modeled in their head to this degree, so here are a few other things we think about.

- is the link so interesting that it would likely wind up here anyhow, or is it just someone posting on a topic they frequently post on?
- is the person being linked to pretty well-known such that everyone knows them a little bit?
- is there any possible angle through which a link to this person could be construed as "doing them a favor" Googlewise?
- is there any angle through which a link to this content seems SEOish and sketch?
- if the person being linked to knew you linked to them on MeFi would they be "hey man, thanks" or would they have no idea who you are?
- are you in the job of promoting things somewhat like this thing?
- are you on a short list of this person's Twitter or facebook friends or do you interact with them on their blog frequently?
- have you worked on other projects with this person even if you haven't worked on this with them?

Generally speaking if we think something is a friendlink we'll usually ask people and exp[ect them to be honest with us. Unless it seems blatantly sketchy, it's not an insta-ban [though it sometimes is] but definitely a "seriously, please do not do this" situation. I know it's a small internet in some ways and it can seem weird to feel that you are prevented from linking to the content of the people/topics that you know best, so we do ask you to try to use your own judgment on this, but err on the side of not linking if you're not feeling sure.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:41 PM on September 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


Oh great, who is going to award stars to all the fancy restaurants now?
posted by Elmore at 10:50 PM on September 6, 2011


jessamyn has the star look up
posted by klangklangston at 11:07 PM on September 6, 2011


Our general rule of thumb is "If you have to ask us, it's probably not a good idea."

So if my rule is never to ask whether a post idea is ok, then it's a good idea by default, right?

'Cause I got this SWEET post about vegan religious astronauts to make.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:14 PM on September 6, 2011


Wait, you're Moby and working for NASA now!?!?!
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 11:17 PM on September 6, 2011


So if my rule is never to ask whether a post idea is ok, then it's a good idea by default, right?

Say hello to my little friend the contrapositive....
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 11:24 PM on September 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


I had a relationship with logic once, was told to DMTFA.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:33 PM on September 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


klangklangston: "jessamyn has the star look up"

You have a star too, in fact all my contacts have stars thanks to the Mark Contact Contributions greasemonkey script.
posted by IndigoRain at 11:55 PM on September 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


I get a gold star? whooo

On a more relevant note, I've been thinking of helping get the word out for a young guy's kickstarter project. I'd been an advisor for his bachelor's thesis. Can I put it on Projects (have never used the site) and is there any guidelines page or cautionary advice I should read before attempting.
posted by infini at 1:09 AM on September 7, 2011


almost everything doesn't get ever posted to Metafilter.

I so totally hear this sung, in a huge, splashy, 1960s-era variety show-slash-Broadway revue style, with a huge cast of singing dancers onstage. Guys in top hats and sequined jackets, gals in sparkling little outfits that show plenty of leg...


almost EHHH-vry THING!
doesn't EH-ver get POST-ed
to Meh-tah-fill-TERRRRRRR!!

cause the IN-ter-NET!
is a MI-ghty big PLACE
I'm-a TELL-in' you SIRRRRR!!

theeeere's a hundred billion links that you will NEH-ver SEE,
there ain't no way that we could show 'em ALL!
but here's a really funny link a-BOUT a CAT!
you'll LOL, LOL LOL LOL !
posted by flapjax at midnite at 1:25 AM on September 7, 2011 [6 favorites]


Can we have the crescent moon descend in the middle of the stage with a decadent looking Bollywood beauty to twirl her way down the staircase in the middle?
posted by infini at 1:43 AM on September 7, 2011


Absolutely, infini. I'll have my guy in Mumbai get on that right away.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 1:48 AM on September 7, 2011


Actually, I think he's already "on that", if you know what I mean... har har!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 1:49 AM on September 7, 2011


You know who else I'm not friends with?
posted by DU at 2:48 AM on September 7, 2011


I would like it if the guys then danced up the stairs, dropped trou, and all simultaneously did a goatse.
posted by Meatbomb at 4:13 AM on September 7, 2011 [2 favorites]


My friends and neighbours over here in the Far East are weird, did I ever tell you, gentle sirs?
posted by infini at 4:17 AM on September 7, 2011


I would like it if the guys then danced up the stairs, dropped trou, and all simultaneously did a goatse.

Not today, need to shave.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:18 AM on September 7, 2011


I once asked the mods if I could make a post about my mom's cousin who is already pretty famous and I'm a fan anyways and Matt said it sounded fine and then cortex and jess said it didn't sound fine and then no one said 'In conclusion' or anything so I was like 'Wait so what was the decision?' because I'm an idiot.

In conclusion, I am an idiot.
posted by shakespeherian at 5:15 AM on September 7, 2011


I am the reincarnation of Julius Caesar. Does this mean I can't post about Rome (the ungrateful bastards) anymore?
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:42 AM on September 7, 2011 [2 favorites]


Metafilter: NEVER forgetting since 2001.
posted by blue_beetle at 5:54 AM on September 7, 2011


Technically this would mean I could not post about anything. But I guess I get a pass seeing as I'm all special and shit.
posted by Meatbomb at 6:23 AM on September 7, 2011


wha...?
posted by infini at 6:31 AM on September 7, 2011


and Matt said it sounded fine and then cortex and jess said it didn't sound fine and then no one said 'In conclusion' or anything

It's like that whole Goldilocks gig. God help you if you ask us about porridge.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:44 AM on September 7, 2011


*scuttles latest email*
posted by shakespeherian at 6:53 AM on September 7, 2011


You had a chance to redux the Keystone Kops thing and you didn't?

For shame, man.
posted by griphus at 7:23 AM on September 7, 2011 [2 favorites]


MATT SAID IT WAS OKAY

HERE ARE MY FAMILY ALBUMS
posted by shakespeherian at 7:37 AM on September 7, 2011 [1 favorite]


Honest to god, I kid you not, but to my eternal shame, my sister has a website offering her services as a psychic healer and tarot reader who will help you find the perfect crystal after you've read her column in the Indian mainstream print media.

But would I link to it? noooooooooooooooooooooo
posted by infini at 7:48 AM on September 7, 2011


Of course if this event is a tire sale, then you've both been totally owned.

OH MY GOD, WE'RE HAVING A TIRE......sale!
posted by schmod at 8:13 AM on September 7, 2011 [5 favorites]


infinineeds to share more personal details, more places she has been and more of the people she knows.
It's the infini show!

tyres..i will take some 255s for a friend who has connections to a chevy truck that runs on carmel corn.
posted by clavdivs at 8:45 AM on September 7, 2011 [4 favorites]


that's probably why the old saying goes that what people say tells you more about them then about others
posted by infini at 9:05 AM on September 7, 2011


The name is contained in the word "identity".
posted by Horselover Phattie at 9:17 AM on September 7, 2011 [1 favorite]


what people say tells you more about them then about others

Others are magnificent bastards.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:19 AM on September 7, 2011


Was that necessary Horselover Phattie?
posted by infini at 10:48 AM on September 7, 2011


Take it to email, guys.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:49 AM on September 7, 2011


No self-linking, but what about stuff you're tangentially involved with?

Nobody wants to hear about my crack dealing and BDSM parties.
posted by Decani at 10:50 AM on September 7, 2011


Anyone else a little sad that they aren't involved in anything that would be worth self-linking to?

No? Just me?

Fine.

*goes back to playing video-games and mocking the cats*
posted by quin at 12:03 PM on September 7, 2011 [1 favorite]


Speak for yourself! Hey guys, check out my newest web endeavor!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 12:34 PM on September 7, 2011 [1 favorite]


Farmed! er... Flagged!!
posted by infini at 12:48 PM on September 7, 2011


So my dad says in his blog that marriage is just an extension of childhood. Could that be an FPP?
posted by parmanparman at 4:27 PM on September 7, 2011


I'd click it.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:26 PM on September 7, 2011


Those are some sweet fancy ducks.
posted by maryr at 9:01 PM on September 7, 2011


"I so totally hear this sung, in a huge, splashy, 1960s-era variety show-slash-Broadway revue style"

*swoons in delight at the idea of a MeFi musical*
posted by greenish at 9:09 AM on September 8, 2011


Huh huh huh. You said "gential".
posted by tumid dahlia at 8:17 PM on September 9, 2011


Mmmm. Nice tan!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:27 PM on September 9, 2011


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