Dating Your Checks and Checking Your Dates January 5, 2015 4:41 PM   Subscribe

Happy New Year! The MeFi FAQ says "On the footer of every MetaFilter page is: © 1999-2014 MetaFilter Network Inc. All posts are © their original authors." Which is perfectly accurate; the copyright date hasn't been changed to 2015 yet. Just saying.
posted by oneswellfoop to Bugs at 4:41 PM (61 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite

Oops, I thought we changed it up to the current year variable, but pb will get it fixed up later tonight I'm sure.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:42 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


Thank you for accepting it in the spirit in which it was given. (GOTCHA!)
There are running Copyright Date jokes on both the Basic Instructions and Queen Victoria webcomics that make me more aware of such nonsense than most.
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:44 PM on January 5, 2015 [3 favorites]


Quick, while it's temporarily in the public domain, let's make a copy of the entire site and post it on KICKASSTORRENTS, before the man shuts us down! Then everyone will be able to read Metafilter whenever they want, and for FREE!
posted by Toekneesan at 4:51 PM on January 5, 2015 [35 favorites]


Toekneesan: Or rather make a copy of everything posted since Jan 1.

We could make it into a book. Or a tumblr. Or a series of animated gifs. Or a baked bean cookbook.
posted by el io at 5:04 PM on January 5, 2015


The lack of a copyright notice (or updated date) will probably not put a work into the public domain in any country that has properly implemented the Berne Convention. [/ippedant]
posted by sparklemotion at 5:09 PM on January 5, 2015 [11 favorites]


Copyright is sooo 2014. Sorry fusty old white folks, but your favorite "respectable" intellectual property regime is a lumbering dinosaur that is crushing the dreams of today's youth - time for it (and you) to go to the senile old white folk's museum and play bingo while listening to your Bing Crosby phonographs. Bye bye!

In its place, all the cool young people have signed up to quidnuncright, a hip new IP regime that allows quidnunc kid wealth management Inc to carefully and responsibly exploit our posts and comments for maximum revenue on our behalf. Remember: if you're not paying quidnunc kid's low management fees and associated charges, then you are NOT the produce being sold. Put THAT on a T-shirt, GrandMa Thowie. Uh - I get a 30% cut of the sales, though.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 5:39 PM on January 5, 2015 [41 favorites]


MATT Y U STEAL MY COMMENTS
posted by klangklangston at 5:53 PM on January 5, 2015 [9 favorites]


Please set down your copying machines, the modern theme just got the current year variable treatment.
posted by pb (staff) at 6:38 PM on January 5, 2015 [10 favorites]




Proper Forms of Address:

Mr President, Sir, Boss, Master.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:37 AM on December 30, 2005
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I just didn't want you guys to feel left out.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:37 AM on December 30, 2005
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Good start. Lemme try? (I stole unapologetically...)
posted by clavdivs at 6:40 PM on January 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


The Ask template also gives the example of "how do I play my iPod in my car" (or whatever); not everything here is strictly speaking au courant. It's part of the charm.
posted by Admiral Haddock at 6:41 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


Redacted futures past.
posted by clavdivs at 6:43 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


not everything here is strictly speaking au courant. It's part of the charm.

"Say what you want here (example idea: what's the deal with your nickname? How did you get it?)"
posted by mathowie (staff) at 7:04 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


then tell everyone when you first started using the internet, and what was the first thing that made you say "wow, this isn't just a place for freaks after all?"
As I've stated before, I never stopped believing the internet was a place for freaks, I was just looking for a place for freaks like me. (And failing that, settled for MetaFilter).
posted by oneswellfoop at 7:34 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


I never thought it was for freaks, you know what I thought was freaky? When bathroom tissue companies started getting urls and printing their websites on their packaging. WTF?

(The internet was a place your parents/boss/supervisor/church leader/aunts/uncles would never be; oh, the mortification when that changed...)
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 7:40 PM on January 5, 2015 [3 favorites]


Seriously, I sensed the same thing about barcodes.
posted by clavdivs at 7:50 PM on January 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


Vote #1 Clavdivs for Copyright Caesar! - or he will ban "u" from MetaFilter!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 8:22 PM on January 5, 2015 [6 favorites]


or he will ban "u" from MetaFilter!

...and we'd be forced to spell like barbarians? Never! He's got my vote...
posted by pompomtom at 8:50 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


No offense, but the wheel of history and all. It's just nice "we" don't use daggers and tridents and limit our anger to euphemism and pith.
At its worst.
posted by clavdivs at 8:52 PM on January 5, 2015 [2 favorites]


Jus a lil ketamine occifer
posted by Invisible Green Time-Lapse Peloton at 9:49 PM on January 5, 2015 [1 favorite]


*steals toekneesan's comment and claims his words as her own*
posted by infini at 4:57 AM on January 6, 2015


In case you're wondering how I was able to do this, even though the variable got updated in the Modern theme is because:

1.1a I use the classic theme

1.2b Viz., referencing quidnunc kid inc's statement of copyright:

Copyright is sooo 2014. Sorry fusty old white folks, but your favorite "respectable" intellectual property regime is a lumbering dinosaur that is crushing the dreams of today's youth - time for it (and you) to go to the senile old white folk's museum and play bingo while listening to your Bing Crosby phonographs. Bye bye!

In its place, all the cool young people have signed up to quidnuncright, a hip new IP regime that allows quidnunc kid wealth management Inc to carefully and responsibly exploit our posts and comments for maximum revenue on our behalf.


I am neither in the former set nor the latter.

GOTCHA!
posted by infini at 5:01 AM on January 6, 2015


I work for a chain of weekly local newspapers; we date each issue for the year and week. A couple years ago, somebody forgot to reset the issue number when January rolled around; along about August, someone finally noticed we were about to put out "week number 85" of the previous year.....

A paltry five days?!? Phiff, that's nothing.
posted by easily confused at 5:46 AM on January 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


Why is this a MeTa post? Would the contact form not have sufficed?
posted by jayder at 6:34 AM on January 6, 2015 [1 favorite]


Or, alternatively, How did it make it out of the queue? If letting things like this out of the queue that could have been dealt with on the back end...what's the point of having the queue?
posted by cjorgensen at 6:47 AM on January 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


All the best freaks are here.
posted by arcticseal at 7:15 AM on January 6, 2015


Why is this a MeTa post? Would the contact form not have sufficed?

It probably would've, but it's also harmless and so, basically, what the hell, why not.
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:47 AM on January 6, 2015 [10 favorites]


MetaFilter: Basically, what the hell, why not.
posted by benito.strauss at 8:14 AM on January 6, 2015 [13 favorites]


*stands at teh bottom of a grey thread adn just looks at cortex with gaping mouth, flabbergasted*

What happened to your standards? Give me a warning!
posted by infini at 8:23 AM on January 6, 2015


If we're in "what the hell, why not" mode, does that mean it's time for recipes?
posted by blurker at 9:04 AM on January 6, 2015 [2 favorites]




It probably would've, but it's also harmless and so, basically, what the hell, why not.

Not to be the fun-hater, but the answer seems fairly obvious. It undermines the idea of the queue. It kind of screws with any kind of guidelines.

If the idea behind the queue was to allow moderators to deal with ankle-biter stuff without having everything become a meta, then that's how it should be used.

Contentious topics are throttled for the purpose of holding them until staffing levels allow for moderator input. Lulzy post obviously also get caught up in the queue (which is fine). So which ones don't get posted? Which ones get dealt with without seeing the gray?

I'm really not trying to do any rules lawyering, but there's really nothing here requiring community input.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:17 AM on January 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


I farted.
posted by Literaryhero at 11:17 AM on January 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


If the idea behind the queue was to allow moderators to deal with ankle-biter stuff without having everything become a meta, then that's how it should be used.

It's primary purpose is to let us defer stuff that's gonna be problematic until we have the staff resources to dig in, and to a degree to let us stop cold stuff that should never ever have been submitted before it goes up instead of closing/deleting it after the fact.

Handling stuff that can be just-contact-form stuff via the contact form is something we've done some of too, and will continue to do, but it's not something we're trying to be hard-as-nails about as some point-making gesture. Sometimes it's nice to have a little community chatter, or let a thing that might have been conspicuous to a few people be answered in public so folks who hadn't quite gotten to the writing-to-us stage can see that, oh, that did get noticed/addressed/fixed. If it's quiet and not looking like a problem to us, we might put it through and answer it here.

That's exactly as big of a deal as people choose to make of it. I feel like it's kind of a not-big one by default, and I like a little bit of low-stakes goofiness here sometimes as it takes the edge off, but I hear you if you don't have the same feeling about it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:23 AM on January 6, 2015 [13 favorites]


That's exactly as big of a deal as people choose to make of it.

*polishes beanplate*
posted by arcticseal at 12:23 PM on January 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


Personally, after the hell foop was given for his last helpful meta, I think it's really nice he got to do this one and have it turn into funny bidnez.

yay, foop!
posted by Michele in California at 1:08 PM on January 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


my feeling is that it's dumb and maybe even rude to add noise to MeTa.
posted by jayder at 2:11 PM on January 6, 2015


For the record, it was my biggest surprise of 2015 so far when it made it through the queue within 5 minutes with a first comment from The Matt. I honestly expected just a private response and only wondered if the response would be good-natured or disgruntled. (Especially so close to 5PM Local Time)

my feeling is that it's dumb and maybe even rude to add noise to MeTa.
Have you ever READ (a) MeTa or (b) my posting history?
"foop" is a noise that some people consider rude, but you get used to it
posted by oneswellfoop at 3:25 PM on January 6, 2015 [4 favorites]


/me goes searching for websites that say "Copyright 19115" in the footer...

lulz non Y2K-compliant websites, there's still a couple...
posted by russm at 3:26 PM on January 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


el io: "Toekneesan: Or rather make a copy of everything posted since Jan 1.

We could make it into a book. Or a tumblr. Or a series of animated gifs. Or a baked bean cookbook.
"

Or a hat, or a brooch...
posted by Splunge at 3:49 PM on January 6, 2015


Pretty sure the internet jumped the shark when Toilets Started Tweeting.
posted by Nanukthedog at 4:44 PM on January 6, 2015 [2 favorites]


Jesus Fuck, Queue-Pedants get over yourselves. Holy hell. Anyway
posted by aydeejones at 6:03 PM on January 6, 2015 [7 favorites]


Which is another way of saying, this isn't an ISO-9001 certified business where they have to act in perfect consistency all of the time, and never get the benefit of the doubt if they don't adhere strongly to their own policy. It's like in the workplace, sometimes I'm hunkered down and have to focus on a single thing and I might be irritable and unapproachable and will tell people as much if I start to show it. But that doesn't mean you may never approach me. I am not ISO-9001 certified
posted by aydeejones at 6:05 PM on January 6, 2015 [5 favorites]


You could save yourself the hassle for next year and change it from 2015 to 2016.
posted by oceanjesse at 7:26 PM on January 6, 2015 [3 favorites]


...i am still chuckling about "grandma thowie"
posted by nebulawindphone at 8:58 PM on January 6, 2015 [10 favorites]


Jesus Fuck, Queue-Pedants get over yourselves. Holy hell. Anyway

He asked. I answered. I don't think there's anything to get over.

Admittedly, cortex was probably being rhetorical, but there was an actual answer.

Thing is, from my perspective, if the site policy is there's a queue to help throttle the load and to make things easier for those who work here, then seeing ones get through that probably shouldn't have seems inconsistent with the goal of the queue in the first place.

Or, take it back even further. The mission behind meta is sort of: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? It's a place for people to circumvent the establishment and bring their case directly to the people. It's a forum for questioning moderator decisions and seeking out further defining of policy and seeing if the community as a whole agrees with you.

On either of these ground this meta shouldn't exist.

Historically, meta has also been a steam valve and if the answer is just. "Occasionally people need a thread to fuck around in," that's perfectly fine as well. It's just at odds (in my mind) with the point of putting a queue in place.

This said, it's their workload that's affected. And that said, it is exactly as big of a deal as one wants to make out of it.
posted by cjorgensen at 7:28 AM on January 7, 2015


A thread like this may not really need time intensive moderation... otoh, it might lead to grocery shopping if the recipe schmoopy rears its head.
posted by infini at 8:00 AM on January 7, 2015


consistency, hobgoblin, etc.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 9:35 AM on January 7, 2015 [3 favorites]


maybe given the highly charged threads we seem to get daily (it feels like) this is a good place to have open...
posted by infini at 9:36 AM on January 7, 2015


These highly charged proton posts, do they vibrate?
posted by clavdivs at 10:05 AM on January 7, 2015


*shoves clavdivs under a pancake*
posted by infini at 10:08 AM on January 7, 2015


cjorgensen: "The mission behind meta is sort of: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

The mission of meta is grip me with indecision about whether copying and pasting yet another Latin phrase into Google Translate will be worth my time.
posted by double block and bleed at 10:42 AM on January 7, 2015


Illegitimi non carborundum
posted by infini at 10:46 AM on January 7, 2015 [1 favorite]


infini: "Illegitimi non carborundum"

Google translates that as "Illegitimate not Rats".
posted by double block and bleed at 10:53 AM on January 7, 2015 [1 favorite]


Wikipedia

/and don't even bother with Google translate for Finnish, you'll never figure out when the VAT payment is due
posted by infini at 11:02 AM on January 7, 2015


> This said, it's their workload that's affected. And that said, it is exactly as big of a deal as one wants to make out of it.

Briefly, you are the one making a big deal out of it. You can just stop. If you are sincerely trying to not do rules lawyering here, you are not being very successful at not doing so.
posted by benito.strauss at 11:09 AM on January 7, 2015


Finnish

Suomalaiset pannukakkujat
- Poro
- Puolukkat
- Perunat

se on oikein hyvin suomalainen ruoka.
posted by fraula at 2:15 PM on January 7, 2015 [1 favorite]


fraula: "Finnish

Suomalaiset pannukakkujat
- Poro
- Puolukkat
- Perunat

se on oikein hyvin suomalainen ruoka.
"
Finnish pancake
- Reindeer
- lingonberry
- Potatoes

it is very well Finnish food.
infini is right. Google translate left out everything about VAT.
posted by double block and bleed at 2:28 PM on January 7, 2015 [2 favorites]


se on mita se on

and kindly imagine the relevant dots as my Suomi keyboard is overlaid with International setting
posted by infini at 9:49 PM on January 7, 2015


I feel like it's kind of a not-big one by default, and I like a little bit of low-stakes goofiness here sometimes as it takes the edge off, but I hear you if you don't have the same feeling about it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:23 PM on January 6 [9 favorites +] [!]

Ii's like this: if the emperor wants to charmingly acknowledge his nudity, it's mighty nice to let all of us frolic around and make appreciative remarks.
posted by a humble nudibranch at 2:45 AM on January 8, 2015 [1 favorite]


define appreciative
posted by infini at 10:10 AM on January 8, 2015


SPQR

Non verbal acknowledgement of imperial connotations is considered polite because
SPQR
Verbal however is a different matter.
"The Populuaque Show" involves considerably more wax, indigo, and myrrh.
posted by clavdivs at 5:00 PM on January 24, 2015


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