🙈 🙉 🙊💩 January 25, 2015 11:10 AM   Subscribe

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Are we keeping these emoji guys around? Just curious.
posted by leotrotsky to Etiquette/Policy at 11:10 AM (201 comments total) 6 users marked this as a favorite

To the best of my knowledge we don't have plans to disable them. That said, it's good for everyone to remember that not all browsers display them (I, for example, see nothing but boxes with x's in them above) and therefore they should be used judiciously.
posted by restless_nomad (staff) at 11:11 AM on January 25, 2015 [29 favorites]


Ditto on the two X'd boxes, which then render as four open boxes in the title bar (current browser: Chrome running on Windows Vista). They're cute at times, but I think it's safest to assume not everyone will be able to see them.
posted by filthy light thief at 11:13 AM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


It's funny that just in the last couple weeks there's been a bunch out of the blue. I'm fine with them personally, Firefox and Safari support it natively, Chrome gets it in the next release which is any day now. 💩🚴💯🐸
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:16 AM on January 25, 2015 [5 favorites]


👻
posted by Namlit at 11:20 AM on January 25, 2015 [3 favorites]


How are they made?!
posted by royalsong at 11:21 AM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


Do the emojis display the same way to everyone? Because Android emojis are way cuter than iPhone emojis. If I post 🐐💃🐙 I want to make sure everyone sees a beardy little goat, a disco man, and an octopus going woohoo and that they don't all code for poops or something.
posted by phunniemee at 11:22 AM on January 25, 2015 [11 favorites]


Also, while we're on the topic, what's the deal with the hairy heart 💛? Does this have some special meaning? (Is this what happens when you eat two breads on the same sandwich?)
posted by phunniemee at 11:24 AM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


Nerf them to the ground.
posted by kimberussell at 11:31 AM on January 25, 2015 [3 favorites]


.💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 11:32 AM on January 25, 2015


I don't care, but every time I see them I get confused all over again at how Chrome can display them IN THE TAB LIST but not in the actual, you know, web page. What kind of sense does that make?
posted by wintersweet at 11:33 AM on January 25, 2015 [8 favorites]


As long as there's no emoji for doing unspeakable things to a chicken, I'm cool with them.
posted by trunk muffins at 11:34 AM on January 25, 2015 [6 favorites]


What kind of sense does that make?

Chrome displays them on a Chromebook. It's like Chrome doesn't even know how to Chrome.
posted by phunniemee at 11:35 AM on January 25, 2015 [8 favorites]


[Hairy heart? EW. You kidding? I only see a yellow heart. I have broken, beating, revolving, growing, two-hearts, Sparkling Heart (a personal favorite) and heart-with-arrow.]
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 11:36 AM on January 25, 2015


MOAR HARTZ
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 11:37 AM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I only see the boxes with an X in them, too, Chrome on a Macbook. I installed Chromoji back when we had some emoji post, and that was fine for a while, and then I was suddenly seeing weird tracking stuff (via Ghostery, on Mefi, where I knew we had not been doing any kind of tracking like that internally), which disappeared after disabling, so I got rid of the extension and I'm mostly emojiless now. I see them in gmail, and as wintersweet says, in the Chrome tabs-not-pages, but nowhere else that I can remember.
posted by taz (staff) at 11:38 AM on January 25, 2015 [3 favorites]


"...therefore they should be used judiciously."

heheheheh.
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 11:38 AM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


And I just did the current Chrome update and Chrome still doesn't know how to Chrome. IDK.

Anyway, LINE stickers have ruined me for all other graphical expressions. ::bear in dark shades and a trenchcoat, with one foot up on a wall, staring off into the distance while autumn leaves blow by::
posted by wintersweet at 11:38 AM on January 25, 2015 [4 favorites]


As long as there's no emoji for doing unspeakable things to a chicken, I'm cool with them.

😘🐔
👉🐔
✂🐔
🐔🔫

You're gonna have to be more specific.
posted by phunniemee at 11:40 AM on January 25, 2015 [65 favorites]


Chromoji disappeared from the Chrome web store, I assume for exactly the "weird tracking stuff" reasons taz notes. "Emoji Input" seems to be the currently-favored fork of it.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 11:42 AM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


Do the emojis display the same way to everyone?

There are different sets for different platforms but they are basically the same though I think the "disco man" is actually a tango lady? Wikipedia is helpful for this. I still see some random boxes in some of the Wikipedia chart. They are different from unicode stuff, for example, sort of.

My SO finally got a smartphone this month so I've been suddenly emoji-immersed finding stuff to send to him. It's weird how much stuff there is in the emoji set and also how much stuff is NOT there.

🐥
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 11:43 AM on January 25, 2015 [8 favorites]


I want to make sure everyone sees a beardy little goat, a disco man, and an octopus going woohoo and that they don't all code for poops or something.

I SEE NO GOAT this is an outrage and I would like to speak with the manager.
posted by poffin boffin at 11:57 AM on January 25, 2015 [14 favorites]


If I post 🐐💃🐙 I want to make sure everyone sees a beardy little goat, a disco man, and an octopus going woohoo and that they don't all code for poops or something.

FWIW, I get a numbery box, a disco man (or possibly an underdeveloped bodybuilder doing that turning-sideways-while-flexing-both-biceps-and-one-calf pose they always seem to be doing), and an octopus going woohoo.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:58 AM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


mathowie: "Firefox and Safari support it natively"

Just upgraded to the latest version of FF on Windows Vista and they aren't working for me. Just an FYI for posters.
posted by Mitheral at 11:59 AM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


technically it appears to be a pentapus
posted by poffin boffin at 11:59 AM on January 25, 2015 [14 favorites]


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
posted by Tanizaki at 12:09 PM on January 25, 2015 [11 favorites]


It seems like less of an issue for comments than for posts. The biggest problem would seem to be emojis in post titles for search results. The emojis don't display in my browser but, technical problems aside, I can't imagine typing a special character from memory to find a post from three weeks ago. And even if we didn't care about members being able to search properly or view the contents of a post reliably, it seems like not a great idea for a site as SEO-dependant as MetaFilter. Sort of in the same vein as ROT13 or foreign language posting.

For what it's worth, copying and pasting the emoji in this post title breaks MetaFilter search with some sort of internal error message under the "tags" section of the search results. (And maybe the "users" section too, unless we have 65k users with an emoji in their username). Though it does turn up this MetaTalk thread in the "posts" section.
posted by Jeff Howard at 12:13 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I'm very glad, I got to see the goat.
posted by meese at 12:13 PM on January 25, 2015


Another issue for emojis is that they tend to display really small, so, much like the small tag, they are kind of annoying for users with visual issues....
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:15 PM on January 25, 2015 [3 favorites]


On my iPad that is so not a disco man, it's a flamenco lady. This one.
posted by IndigoRain at 12:16 PM on January 25, 2015 [8 favorites]


The octopus I'm seeing does not say woo hoo. Also he only has four tentacles. I find him oddly melancholy.
posted by heisenberg at 12:24 PM on January 25, 2015 [9 favorites]


I really hope we keep these boxes with X's in them!
posted by MoonOrb at 12:30 PM on January 25, 2015 [7 favorites]


Funny, if I copy the boxes and paste them into the address bar, Chrome displays them just fine too.

???
posted by wintersweet at 12:36 PM on January 25, 2015


Also, this particular post breaks the RSS feed. Feedburner strips out the emojis in the title resulting in two blank spaces. That means RSS users have nothing to click on to read the thread. The MetaFilter thread RSS also strips out the special characters, resulting in "Comments on: " with no emoji thread title.
posted by Jeff Howard at 12:42 PM on January 25, 2015 [5 favorites]


FWIW, I get the same result. I just figure if something doesn't decode properly in my browser, it's not worth worrying about in the first place.

Like, they're cute and all, but I'm not smart / enthusiastic enough to use them in the first place, so it's just another thing to gloss over.

I'm also really lazy.
posted by wallabear at 12:43 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


The disco man on my iPad is a woman doing salsa or some other festive dance.
posted by maxsparber at 12:46 PM on January 25, 2015


Maybe there should be a hairy heart, like Cousin It from The Addams Family... .💡💥😮 Chromoji Addams Family!
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 12:51 PM on January 25, 2015


**== only makes a flag in Yahoo! IM
posted by Cranberry at 12:52 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬜⬜⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬜⬜⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬜⬜⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
posted by hellojed at 1:01 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


💉🐔
posted by rtha at 1:12 PM on January 25, 2015 [4 favorites]


xxxxxx

Am I doing it right?
posted by octothorpe at 1:15 PM on January 25, 2015 [4 favorites]


like Cousin It from The Addams Family

It's spelled Itt.
posted by Sys Rq at 1:18 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


I just think we should make sure we use these new forms of expression CORRECTLY, and not according to the "anything goes" philosophy of languagehat and his descriptivist ilk. That's why I've written a guide on the topic, setting out the correct rules we must follow (at the risk of simply writing nonsense): "❄🐂💩: the zero-tolerance approach to Emoji", which will soon be available in all proper bookstores. Finally, the empire of pedantry has NEW lands to conquer!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:18 PM on January 25, 2015 [22 favorites]


We got seven or eight spacecraft orbiting or driving around Mars, but emoji are tripping us up

Aliens are watching from their secret base in Atlantis and laughing at us.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 1:18 PM on January 25, 2015 [5 favorites]


ok, rtha just busted me up. I should probably rethink this.
posted by wallabear at 1:19 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I dislike emojis, unless there is an emoji (or set of them) to represent "hey you kids get off my lawn", in which case, I like only those emojis.
posted by tonycpsu at 1:21 PM on January 25, 2015 [7 favorites]


I really dislike having them on the front page (in posts and titles), just as much as I would dislike having inline images.
posted by Wolfdog at 1:25 PM on January 25, 2015 [3 favorites]


Also, this particular post breaks the RSS feed.

Thanks for the heads up. Some emoji characters break RSS parsers out in the world in interesting ways, so we just strip them for feeds. It is a problem for this post which should be an outlier. It's also an interesting problem for newsreaders. The blank title is valid RSS even though it's not good practice. So should newsreaders turn that into something like [no title] on their end so you have something to click on?
posted by pb (staff) at 1:26 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


These are way more advanced in chrome on my newly updated nexus 7 than in chrome on my mobile or IE on my laptop. The poop in the header has flies.
posted by biffa at 1:29 PM on January 25, 2015


I'm so down with banning the excrement emoji.
posted by pxe2000 at 1:38 PM on January 25, 2015 [4 favorites]


especially as there's no emoticon for a punchbowl
posted by Namlit at 1:43 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


🚬🐔
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 1:46 PM on January 25, 2015 [9 favorites]


Wow. I just found out you can italicize emoji. Though why you'd ever need to do that is beyond me.

Metafilter: 💩
posted by leotrotsky at 1:47 PM on January 25, 2015 [10 favorites]


Boxes with letters and numbers in them (e.g., 01F414). Firefox, Windows XP. I'm doomed. :(
posted by Melismata at 1:51 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't know how authoritative this is, but it claims "If using Windows 7, Windows Vista, or any other early version of Windows, you will not see Emoji correctly in any browser."

Oddly despite that claim, on vista/firefox their test page mostly works for me, but I'm seeing 99% boxes in this very metatalk thread.
posted by juv3nal at 1:54 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


🔫🚬 💉💵
posted by four panels at 2:00 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


The day I discovered that there was no "taco" emoji was -- well, not the worst day of my life, but probably in the top 5,000. 😨
posted by Karlos the Jackal at 2:16 PM on January 25, 2015 [6 favorites]


Testing a Chrome input extension.
posted by octothorpe at 2:18 PM on January 25, 2015


Worked in preview but not when posted. :(
posted by octothorpe at 2:19 PM on January 25, 2015


juv3nal: "I don't know how authoritative this is, but it claims "If using Windows 7, Windows Vista, or any other early version of Windows, you will not see Emoji correctly in any browser.""

I'm using FF in Win7, and I'm seeing about 90% of them correctly.
posted by Chrysostom at 2:20 PM on January 25, 2015


The day I discovered that there was no "taco" emoji...

work around.
posted by pb (staff) at 2:24 PM on January 25, 2015 [13 favorites]


So should newsreaders turn that into something like [no title] on their end so you have something to click on?

That's how web-based e-mail clients sometimes handle blank subject lines. For desktop it varies. Apple Mail for example just shows a blank subject line if the subject is missing. I double-checked the MetaTalk RSS feed with a desktop client and it rewrites the title as either "Untitled" or "No title" in a couple different places. Viewing the feed directly in Safari or Chrome or with an online RSS service is where the problem shows up. Could the RSS title for this thread be edited?
posted by Jeff Howard at 2:26 PM on January 25, 2015


Oddly, Chrome only displays empty boxes for me on the page (no Xs, like some of you have, which is stressing me out because now I have all these unchecked boxes in Metafilter). BUT, up at the very top of the screen, where the actual tab is, they display just fine. Proof? Emoji'd title of this post is "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, you pile of shit."
posted by mudpuppie at 2:27 PM on January 25, 2015


Could the RSS title for this thread be edited?

Not without editing the Web title as well. I agree it's not a great situation, but we're discussing the ramifications of emoji and this is something that can happen. I don't think we'd allow an emoji-only title under normal circumstances, but MetaTalk isn't always normal.
posted by pb (staff) at 2:28 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


The title shows as "Are we keeping these emoji guys around? Just curious" in my Newsblur view of the RSS feed.
posted by Chrysostom at 2:29 PM on January 25, 2015


Oddly, Chrome only displays empty boxes for me on the page (no Xs, like some of you have, which is stressing me out because now I have all these unchecked boxes in Metafilter). BUT, up at the very top of the screen, where the actual tab is, they display just fine.
I get the opposite (Chrome 40.0.2214.91 m using emoji input extension, Win XP) - I see boxes in the tabs, but about 80% or so of the emoji in the page itself display correctly (assuming what I see is what the author intended, of course - there's really no way to know, is there?)
posted by dg at 2:50 PM on January 25, 2015


Okay, Firefox35, Windows7:
💩💦💥🙈 🙉 🙊🐘🐸🐔🐥🐙👻💕😘😨👉💯💵✂🔫💃💡💉🚬 display successfully
🚴🐐😮 just show little boxes with hex values.
My mileage may vary. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

signed, ʕ╹◡╹ʔ *
*universal symbol for 'swell foop' because I say it is
posted by oneswellfoop at 3:19 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I have literally no idea what this thread is about, is it a smartphone thing?

but I do like rectangles so carry on
posted by threeants at 3:23 PM on January 25, 2015 [4 favorites]


I saw this recently and I loved it: I GIVE YOU THE EMOJI FILM NOIR

🛀🚿🚪🚬🔫🛁
posted by The Whelk at 3:26 PM on January 25, 2015 [22 favorites]


I see nothing

but squares
posted by Red Loop at 3:50 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I hate the hairy heart emoji, but the way I reconciled myself to it was thinking of it as fuzz instead of hair. Therefore, it's warm fuzzies.
posted by lilac girl at 4:01 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I actually just got a new phone and one of the things I checked in the first 10 minutes was to make sure that damn hairy heart wasn't in this phone. I get the yellow one now instead. So I haven't reconciled myself to it that much.
posted by lilac girl at 4:02 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I had to look up the hairy heart. You guys, I don't think that's a heart. (Though if you google it, there's all kinds of crazy theorizing.)

You can see it in this HuffPo (sorry) article on emoji confusion.
posted by wintersweet at 4:06 PM on January 25, 2015 [8 favorites]


Do not like, do not want, but also do not care all that much either way.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:13 PM on January 25, 2015 [6 favorites]


🌌 Hmm. I can not haz emoji, apparently. FF35, Mac OS 10.6.8.
posted by Lynsey at 4:14 PM on January 25, 2015


I'm on chrome on an iPad and I can see them fine.
posted by lollusc at 4:47 PM on January 25, 2015


I only saw little rectangles until yum install gdouros-symbola-fonts on Fedora 21 using Chrome.
posted by dashDashDot at 4:48 PM on January 25, 2015


😾👭 that is a cat who doesn't like gay people. Stupid homophobic cat.
👯🐢💣 this tortoise is watching Vegas showgirls, but little does he know there is a bomb about to go off behind him.
It was probably set by the cat.
posted by lollusc at 4:49 PM on January 25, 2015 [7 favorites]


I could give or take this feature, don't care either way. They do not display on anything but my phone.
posted by Drinky Die at 5:05 PM on January 25, 2015


If you're on Windows and are using Stylish or whatever (I'm using the Signika / Open Sans restyle), then adding "Segoe UI Symbol" to the end of the font-family declaration will cause these to be rendered.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 5:16 PM on January 25, 2015


I think the 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 emoji users should get some of their own 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩.
posted by double block and bleed at 5:23 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


If you can't see emoji then your web experience is 💩
posted by Invisible Green Time-Lapse Peloton at 5:27 PM on January 25, 2015


Do not want.
posted by Ik ben afgesneden at 5:36 PM on January 25, 2015


This is the honest truth: I went into character viewer on my mac, searched for "box", chose the boxiest looking glyph ("ballot box") and pasted it into my comment. Then I decided to install "Emoji Input" into Chrome so I could see the silly emojis, especially if they are going to stick around. So I didn't intend to paste a bunch of poop into my comment, though that is a lot funnier than a bunch of boxes.
posted by double block and bleed at 5:39 PM on January 25, 2015 [10 favorites]


SAD. I only see boxes and without even checkmarks. With one exception, a pair of scissors from phunniemee. Which is suspicious.
[Windows 7 with Chrome]
posted by Glinn at 5:47 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


My safe word is 🙅
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 6:04 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


a pair of scissors

Ooh, the scissors must be one of the magic ones! If I'm not mistaken, the following should all display even for you sad, emojiless sons of bitches.

✂ ✈ ✏ ☝ ✌ ✳ ❄ ☁ ☀ ✉ ❇ ❤ ♥ ♠ ♣ ♦ ➡ ⌚ ☎ ✔ ☑ ☺ ♨
posted by phunniemee at 6:05 PM on January 25, 2015 [7 favorites]


omg tiny things!
posted by Glinn at 6:28 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


I can't see them either.. I wondered what the boxes were... honestly, words work much better...
posted by HuronBob at 6:42 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


MetaFilter: honestly, words work much better

I know, I know, I'm sorry.
posted by ocherdraco at 6:59 PM on January 25, 2015 [6 favorites]


I'm on an older computer, which means, older browser. I can't view anything with Flash. And I certainly see them as blank boxes. Hoping to upgrade my computer soonish, but you know, medical things take precedence over toys that will display emoji and other things related.
posted by Marie Mon Dieu at 7:07 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


Impractical Chrome workaround: select emoji, right-click. Emoji will show up in the context menu, after "Search Google for." Voila!
posted by knuckle tattoos at 7:08 PM on January 25, 2015 [3 favorites]


The proper way to display emoji.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:16 PM on January 25, 2015


wahaha cats! 😺😺😺😺😺😺
posted by royalsong at 7:55 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


👴🐔🏩
posted by Small Dollar at 7:56 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


4:20
posted by clavdivs at 8:13 PM on January 25, 2015


🌜🍕🌛
posted by clavdivs at 8:16 PM on January 25, 2015 [2 favorites]


👼👼🌟👹👹
👼💢💢💢👹
posted by Invisible Green Time-Lapse Peloton at 9:09 PM on January 25, 2015


I read that as version of twinkle, twinkle little star starring Lon Chaney.
posted by clavdivs at 9:32 PM on January 25, 2015


Should just bring back inline images, that way everybody can see them instead of having the site look different depending on browser/device.
posted by Drinky Die at 10:06 PM on January 25, 2015


If we're going to do the emojis would it be possible to make them bigger so I don't have to zoom in on each one to see what it is.
posted by bleep at 10:23 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


👀👌🙌
posted by bleep at 10:24 PM on January 25, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't like this- emojis are ugly and hard to parse and I don't see what the advantage is over text and emoticons.
posted by Pope Guilty at 11:07 PM on January 25, 2015 [6 favorites]


🐠💋
posted by jeffamaphone at 11:41 PM on January 25, 2015


Stupid question but are emojis compatible across smart phone brands. I never really use them but can android ones show up on apple?
posted by kanata at 11:43 PM on January 25, 2015


People! It's not a flamenco dancer! It's Catherine Zeta Jones at the Golden Globes!
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 12:19 AM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


I don't much care for these things at all. My computer (whatever the latest Firefox is on Ubuntu) doesn't display them. I get plain white boxes with hex codes in them. I wouldn't mind seeing them disappear altogether - they're certainly not easy to search for or even understand. Everyone interprets each little picture differently which isn't great for communication.

It's obviously not up to me, but I think people should go for intelligible language when writing titles, posts and comments. I'm particularly concerned about the effect on people using screen readers and other accessibility software.
posted by winterhill at 12:43 AM on January 26, 2015 [6 favorites]


If God had wanted pictures on our computers he would have given us VGA.
posted by Segundus at 1:37 AM on January 26, 2015 [5 favorites]


I'm as much a fan of a well-played smiley poop as anyone, but the fact that the URL to this question needed to be edited from the original because the emojis didn't work well in it should be enough of a "no" argument for now.

I'm using Chrome for PC, so it's not like I'm using a far-out wackadoo browser.
posted by kimberussell at 3:49 AM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


These things make Metafilter look cheap and tacky. I vote for disabling them.
posted by painquale at 4:02 AM on January 26, 2015 [9 favorites]


painquale:
"These things make Metafilter look cheap and tacky. I vote for disabling them."
<img src="http://goat.se/chickenfuck.gif">
posted by charred husk at 4:54 AM on January 26, 2015 [3 favorites]


Stupid question but are emojis compatible across smart phone brands. I never really use them but can android ones show up on apple?

According to the article linked above by wintersweet, no they are not, with sometimes problematic results.
posted by Melismata at 4:56 AM on January 26, 2015


Wow, Goat.se is a real disappointment.
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:06 AM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


I can't believe I clicked that link. And yeah, disappointing.
posted by Literaryhero at 5:19 AM on January 26, 2015


Oh, hell, it still exists? I was just tossing in some nostalgia for pure veracity's sake. How the mighty have fallen.
posted by charred husk at 5:23 AM on January 26, 2015


Here's a neat table of Emoji across platforms. Mine show up using Symbola (unzip into ~/.fonts or local equivalent), in black and white.
posted by Tobu at 5:23 AM on January 26, 2015 [3 favorites]


WHY DO THE ANDROID VERSIONS OF SMILEY FACES APPEAR TO BE MELTING its horrifying
posted by Potomac Avenue at 5:34 AM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


01F
47B

01F
4A6
posted by klarck at 5:34 AM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


Most anything "dot se"is disappointing at this time of year.
posted by Namlit at 5:39 AM on January 26, 2015


Something else to watch out for is the Unicode Apple logo. It's a Unicode code point, but it's in the private-use section, so it only renders properly on Apple products. So don't get cute with your Apple Watch posts.
posted by smackfu at 5:49 AM on January 26, 2015


Are there any emoji usernames yet? I really want to see "posted by 💩 at 8:49 AM on January 26 [+] [!]"
posted by backseatpilot at 6:14 AM on January 26, 2015 [4 favorites]


I too would like to see them disabled in titles. They seem out of place there.

On the other hand I have no problem with any amount of ASCII weirdness in titles. I contain multitudes.
posted by Artw at 6:30 AM on January 26, 2015


I've opened this post in Chrome on a new Android phone, Chrome on an old Android tablet, and Chrome on my desktop. The emojis were different on every single one. On my phone, the dancing man is actually some shapeless yellow blob.

I opened it on my desktop last, and I see twice as many emojis as I did on the other devices. There weren't boxes on the devices or anything; those emoji just didn't appear. Snowflake BS makes a ton more sense now.

On my desktop, Chrome shows all the emoji EXCEPT for in the tab header. Isn't that the opposite of what everyone else experienced?
posted by tofu_crouton at 6:53 AM on January 26, 2015


Oh, hell, it still exists?

Nah, the original site is goatse.cx, a Christmas Island domain which appears to be selling subdomains now. Goat.se is a swedish domain whose content I can't really understand because I'm monolingual.
posted by Pope Guilty at 7:45 AM on January 26, 2015


ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้
posted by Tanizaki at 7:46 AM on January 26, 2015 [7 favorites]


OK, I was all for this until I got to work today. Can see emojis on my Android tablet using Chrome and Safari on my iPhone, but Chrome on my work W7 PC is a no go.

Quite happy to see them disabled, as if half the community can't read them, then communication is impacted.

*imagine an emoticon for a sprinkler on my lawn*
posted by arcticseal at 7:51 AM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


Goat.se is a swedish domain whose content I can't really understand because I'm monolingual.

I'm not entirely sure whoever put up that page understands the language either.

(it's some SEO crud for an "online shopping hub" on a cheap host. looks like something from the "how to get rich quick using wordpress" department...)
posted by effbot at 8:06 AM on January 26, 2015


please forgive me...

🍆🐔
posted by nadawi at 8:43 AM on January 26, 2015 [4 favorites]


Okay so goat.se . It's some general info about cashmere (goat's wool), and its uses. No idea who was thinking this could be of interest. And some really lame wannabe clickbait around the edges. No need to learn the language, believe me.

🐐🐐🐐
posted by Namlit at 9:10 AM on January 26, 2015


Basically we (human culture) are trying to replace written language with a series of cute hieroglyphics, which I am ok with, but I hate hate hate that they are different on different platforms. It goes far beyond typeface differences. A picture is worth a thousand words, but if I send you a picture and it looks one way to me (A disco guy) and you get it and see something else (a tango lady) how the hell are we ever going to get anything done?

But maybe that is already where we are with written, textual language, and we are all just used to it and we'll GROW that used to it with emoji.

William Gibson retweeted someone's screenshot of a tweet (I include the provenance because the Gibsonian convolution resonates for me) about emoji the other day, and, well, so there's that, too.

Finally, and even less relatedly, but still related: I forgot my laptop at home, so I am using a desktop PC that I very rarely use, last logged into in September, and when I came to MetaFilter today I was appalled because it was still the OLD MetaFilter. I had gotten so used to the new look (modern) that I forgot the old one even existed, and the venerable old design that I felt protective of (even though I welcomed the change, when it was offered) looked shoddy and weak. Go figure.

So, I guess bottom line: I for one welcome our 💩 overlords.
posted by dirtdirt at 9:10 AM on January 26, 2015


4:20

SHUT UP CLAVDIVS, YOU MEMAIL-DISABLING CHUMP
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 9:28 AM on January 26, 2015


☺️
posted by filthy light thief at 9:39 AM on January 26, 2015


Wow. I just found out you can italicize emoji. Though why you'd ever need to do that is beyond me.


Well, there you are. Some of us are fancy enough to italicize our emoji, and others of us have no emoji at all.


*sighs*
posted by BlueHorse at 10:09 AM on January 26, 2015


I'm fancy! 🐧
posted by Sys Rq at 10:14 AM on January 26, 2015 [4 favorites]


I suspect banning emojis because not everyone's browsers render them properly would be a decision that would look hilariously quaint pretty rapidly. I think it's one of those things that self-regulates reasonably well. People by and large don't use them except in jokey-stunty discussions like this one. I don't think they'll get widely adopted in more serious discussions (if ever) until they're pretty much universally accessible.
posted by yoink at 10:35 AM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


Question: do they serve any purpose, but as mini-pictures that are a bit more reliable than embedded images? They're not searchable (source/host).
posted by filthy light thief at 10:58 AM on January 26, 2015


I saw kids in the Tokyo subway texting emoji on their pre-smartphone smartphones before you even heard of it.
posted by Invisible Green Time-Lapse Peloton at 11:09 AM on January 26, 2015


Well, I went ahead and installed an emoji extension on my browser so I could see what the hubbub was about, and I must say...this is stupid...like "barely one step above message boards with animated signature files that fucking sparkle" stupid.
posted by drlith at 11:24 AM on January 26, 2015 [6 favorites]


They're not searchable (source/host).

They're searchable on MeFi, but not via Google.
posted by zamboni at 11:34 AM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


like "barely one step above message boards with animated signature files that fucking sparkle" stupid.

🌠🌈🍬🎉💎🌟🎆You take that shit back, drlith.🎆🌟💎🎉🍬🌈🌠
posted by phunniemee at 11:40 AM on January 26, 2015 [5 favorites]


That said, it's good for everyone to remember that not all browsers display them (I, for example, see nothing but boxes with x's in them above) and therefore they should be used judiciously.

Clearly, the thing to do is to treat this as an opportunity, and introduce reasonably priced, cross-browser supported, MeFi specific MetaStickers. What could possibly go wrong? 🍔
posted by zamboni at 11:49 AM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


On my desktop, Chrome shows all the emoji EXCEPT for in the tab header. Isn't that the opposite of what everyone else experienced?
No, that's exactly what I experience too. Well, apart from only seeing about half of them anywhere.
posted by dg at 12:22 PM on January 26, 2015


I was at work today so I could only see ◻ on my 💻 and I was all like 😿 but now I'm back home on my 📱 I can see them properly and I'm way 😸. In conclusion 👍🎉👻
posted by billiebee at 12:23 PM on January 26, 2015 [7 favorites]


I always liked that metafilter had no in-line pics or videos. Unlike. Every. Other. Place. On. The. Web.
posted by agregoli at 12:27 PM on January 26, 2015


According to this site, some if them are animated in some browsers on some OSes. Do not want.
posted by theora55 at 12:37 PM on January 26, 2015


I wish for an un-emoji browser, but one that renders emoji in text.

For example

billiebee: I was at work today so I could only see [square box] on my [computer] and I was all like [sad cat face] but now I'm back home on my [smart phone/device] I can see them properly and I'm way [happy cat face]. In conclusion [thumbs up] [party popper] [ghost]


filthy light thief: Question: do they serve any purpose, but as mini-pictures that are a bit more reliable than embedded images? They're not searchable.

zamboni: They're searchable on MeFi, but not via Google.

Ah, thanks. Another fun fact: You can find out what they are supposed to be by entering them as a Wikipedia URL. For example, I didn't know what 🎉 was, so I copied it in the URL bar as a Wikipedia page, like this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/🎉, which gets rendered as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%F0%9F%8E%89, and it then loads en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_popper. But some emoji just dump you in the general Emoji or Emoticon pages, like 😸/Black Cat Face

The more you know 🌠
posted by filthy light thief at 12:57 PM on January 26, 2015 [4 favorites]


According to this site, some if them are animated in some browsers on some OSes. Do not want.

Animated emoji would only be a problem if you were somehow accessing MeFi via GMail, or Japanese text messages. If you are, kudos to you! Otherwise, relax- that site indicates that no actual OS has animated emoji.

The last three cryptically named columns (DCM, KDDI, SB) are the original emoji implementations for DoCoMo, KDDI, and SoftBank.
posted by zamboni at 12:58 PM on January 26, 2015


In Japan, 💩 is known as unchikun, or just unchi, and sometimes is considered lucky. So for those of us who are fans of Japan, 💩 is an essential emoji.

I have a "lucky" golden unchi keychain which I got years ago on Strapya World. Later on, Consumerist took the larger model of said keychain, which was a paper weight, and turned it into their "golden poo" award which they handed out for a while as their worst company award. These days there are variations with faces, and colors like silver and pink.

The oral history of the poop emoji on Fastcompany.

Don't hate 💩!
posted by IndigoRain at 1:00 PM on January 26, 2015 [5 favorites]


The oral history of the poop emoji on Fastcompany.

As discussed in this MeFi thread.
posted by zamboni at 1:05 PM on January 26, 2015 [3 favorites]


Ha, I didn't know there was a Mefi thread.
posted by IndigoRain at 1:08 PM on January 26, 2015


Also, my android tablet just crashed and wouldn't boot up for AGES. I'm blaming emoji.
posted by arcticseal at 1:26 PM on January 26, 2015


The oral history of the poop emoji

Wait...oral history?
posted by yoink at 1:46 PM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


It's interesting how radically different the rendering of the emoji can be on different devices. In Firefox on Windows 🐔👈 is clearly a finger threatening to goose a chicken (so to speak). On my iPad, it's a finger about to poke the back of a disembodied chicken head.
posted by yoink at 1:52 PM on January 26, 2015


If we're voting, I'm all in favor of anything that increases the jackassery of this place.🐴

I get that we're more mature than the rest of the Internet, but even the stodgiest old fart has to take off his monocle once in a while.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 1:54 PM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


I wasn't into emoji until I saw this particular sequence on Twitter.

🌞 🌗 🌏 = solar eclipse.
🌞 🌍 🌚 = lunar eclipse.
🌍 🌞 🌖 = apocalypse.

Now I can't stop using them.

Help. 😮 😬 😕 😐 😑 😶
posted by RedOrGreen at 2:04 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


even the stodgiest old fart has to take off his monocle once in a while.

ಠ_ರೃ
posted by yoink at 2:07 PM on January 26, 2015 [5 favorites]


I have extremely important news, and it's the straight 💩. Chrome 41 (it's a beta) supports emoji.

If you like to play with 🔥, you can get Chrome 41 here.
posted by scrump at 2:31 PM on January 26, 2015


Whoa, these emojis are so much more exciting on my home computer than my work one! I feel like I'm in The Wizard of Oz where everything goes technicolor.
posted by ferret branca at 2:38 PM on January 26, 2015 [3 favorites]


💃

I just noticed that Salsa Dancer/Flamenco Dancer/CZJ doesn't have a face, like some character in a Twilight Zone episode.

Eek!
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 2:48 PM on January 26, 2015


Slarty Bartfast: If we're voting, I'm all in favor of anything that increases the jackassery of this place.🐴

Wikipedia informs me that image is actually that of a horse. Wrong animal, -5 internet points.

But your emoji lead me to this silly picture game (🐴+🐵 = ?), which requires the first image to be a donkey, so I award you +5 internet points!



potsmokinghippieoverlord: 💃

I just noticed that Salsa Dancer/Flamenco Dancer/CZJ doesn't have a face, like some character in a Twilight Zone episode.


The dancer looks like it is anguish on Windows systems, moreso when italicized, if it makes you feel any better/worse.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:52 PM on January 26, 2015


like some character in a Twilight Zone episode.

😶
posted by zamboni at 2:52 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


you can get Chrome 41 here.

No thanks. That sounds super carcinogenic.
posted by Sys Rq at 2:59 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


"They're not searchable"

I wonder what Google's reason for that is.

💁 These are part of Unicode (which is why they should be googleable 🔍), they're just like more familiar symbols such as ©, and it makes no sense to to talk about MetaFilter not allowing them unless you live in 1998 and think the web should be restricted to the basic western character set. The reason why they've become part of Unicode is because they're an important part of electronic communication for a large portion of the world's population 🌏.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 3:42 PM on January 26, 2015 [3 favorites]


I feel like I'm in The Wizard of Oz where everything goes technicolor

Somewhere over the rainbow way up high
There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby
Somewhere over the rainbow cash is green
And the poop that you dared to dream has googly eyes

Someday I'll wish upon a star
And wake up where th'emojis all
Have shading
Where eggplants curve like naughty bits
Away above the chicken's head
That's where you'll find me
posted by yoink at 4:04 PM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


that thing Tanizaki did delighted me!!!! more of that!!
posted by threeants at 4:28 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


I only saw about the middle third or something of that thing Tanizaki did, probably because I'm on liiiiii:(nuuuux *Debbie Downer zoom-in*
posted by en forme de poire at 4:49 PM on January 26, 2015


How are they made?!

Well... when a box with an X in it and a pile of poo love each other very much...
posted by brundlefly at 5:18 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


I only saw about the middle third or something of that thing i did, probably because I'm on liiiiii:(nuuuux *Debbie Downer zoom-in*

Symbola and Dejavu Sans cover almost everything, but I had to install the Tibetan font monlambodyig.ttf for Tanizaki's ส็็༼ ຈلຈ༽ส้้ and Kannada Unicode for yoink's ಠ_ರೃ.
posted by Lorin at 5:44 PM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ಠ益ಠ༽ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้

that thing Tanizaki did delighted me!!!! more of that!!

that's wut she sed lulz /michaelgaryscott

ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้'ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้'ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้ ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็༼ ຈل͜ຈ༽ส้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้้
posted by Tanizaki at 5:54 PM on January 26, 2015 [4 favorites]


Zalgo abuse deserves a wedgie.
posted by Invisible Green Time-Lapse Peloton at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2015 [1 favorite]


tanizaki stop breaking the internets
posted by poffin boffin at 6:30 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


✅
posted by J. Wilson at 7:07 PM on January 26, 2015



A whole post of/about pictures on Metafilter and nobody has posted

🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄
🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄
and so forth? Buncha youngins.
posted by elr at 10:07 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


Also the @XFilesbutemoji twitter has greatly enriched my life
posted by elr at 10:11 PM on January 26, 2015 [2 favorites]


I've spent my time reading this post by zooming in on tiny little pictographs, not getting the joke and repeating.

Keep emoji ❌
posted by double block and bleed at 3:45 AM on January 27, 2015


When do I get to see the ⛵! (on Chrome) (via)
posted by jeffburdges at 4:59 AM on January 27, 2015


What about Flirtmoji?
posted by jeffburdges at 5:03 AM on January 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


"Everyone's favorite [poop] emoji began in Japan. .."
Ok course it did.
posted by jeffburdges at 5:13 AM on January 27, 2015


I could've happily lived without ever knowing about Flirtmoji - I thought it would be like a winking eye and more hearts and maybe lipstick? (Although to be fair, there was a winking eye... not going to link to it...)
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 8:01 AM on January 27, 2015 [1 favorite]


So, now that we are apparently all about the emojis, why exactly are embedded gifs bad and wrong?

(I kid, I kid, embedded gifs are bad and wrong. piles of poo in posts, no problem.)

(in addition to piles of poo in posts, metafilter also supports emojis)

posted by el io at 11:39 AM on January 27, 2015


I have the hardest time understanding the appeal of emojis. I mean, hasn't every internet user in the whole world already used smilies on a message board, quickly becoming bored of them to the point of forgetting they exist?

Really? The whole internet needs to be a phpbb board from 1999 now? Can't wait to see the next innovation online. BBCode? Add a poll anywhere?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:50 AM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]


I would be angry about them if I wasn't still torqued by all the apps that "correct" my text-based :) and stuff into images/emojis. I said :) and I meant :), fuckers. Having it as a default is bad enough. The apps that don't make it configurable are written by people who will roast in the depths of the Slor when their judgement comes due.
posted by phearlez at 10:34 AM on January 28, 2015 [3 favorites]


⋛⋋( ՞ਊ ՞)⋌⋚ -(AWK! STOP DOING UNSPEAKABLE THINGS TO ME~ )
posted by codacorolla at 12:14 PM on January 28, 2015 [4 favorites]


leotrotsky: Wow. I just found out you can italicize emoji. Though why you'd ever need to do that is beyond me.

Well one benefit is that it makes that little dancer extra-funky. Look at them go!

💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
posted by traveler_ at 12:42 PM on January 28, 2015 [3 favorites]


Well one benefit is that it makes that little dancer extra-funky. Look at them go!Still the same non-italicized dancer ladies on my device. (shrug)
posted by DirtyOldTown at 7:38 AM on January 29, 2015


hehehe hey guys I just noticed that on android the plum looks like a butt 🍑
posted by phunniemee at 7:56 AM on January 29, 2015


Theres no emoji to describe what I'm saying to this. Prunelol??
posted by Namlit at 10:01 AM on January 29, 2015


DirtyOldTown: Still the same non-italicized dancer ladies on my device. (shrug)

In Chrome for Windows I get extra-funky little boxes. Which I am satisfied with.
posted by brundlefly at 10:15 AM on January 29, 2015


In Chrome for Windows I got ladies dancing.

(It's a peach, not a plum. That's why it looks like a butt.)
posted by maryr at 1:21 PM on January 29, 2015 [1 favorite]


🐾🐾🐾🐾🐱 is that a kitty or a mouse? I mean it to be a 🐈 (that's a kitty, right? It's almost as tall as 🐩).

Now it's like Highlights magazine up in here!
posted by discopolo at 7:16 PM on January 29, 2015 [1 favorite]


All these (alleged - I can't see them) dancing figures are crying out for the blink and/or marquee tag.
posted by dg at 7:54 PM on January 29, 2015 [1 favorite]


👀

Fuck, blink must be totally deprecated now.
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 7:57 PM on January 29, 2015 [2 favorites]


Blink was never standard- it was mostly a Netscape/Mozilla thing. The two big browsers that did support it removed it in the middle of 2013- Opera 15 amusingly lost it when they switched to Blink, and Mozilla finally came to their senses with Firefox 23.

Have you ever thought that blink seems like an idea dreamed up by a drunken engineer? That's because it was.
posted by zamboni at 1:37 PM on January 30, 2015 [3 favorites]


jessamyn, my browser is old enough that that is blinking, but also that it is a square box with 01F 440 written in it. You can't have it both ways, I guess.
posted by maryr at 7:02 PM on January 30, 2015 [1 favorite]


jessamyn: "Fuck, blink must be totally deprecated now."

Don't get me started again. 😠
posted by double block and bleed at 7:43 PM on January 30, 2015


"👀"

In the font I'm using and on a dark background, those totally look like little testicles to me. 'Cause, you know, eyes. Kind of necessary for the centers to be dark, not light.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 7:56 PM on January 30, 2015


Heh. The quotation marks aren't doing any favours, either.
posted by Sys Rq at 12:26 PM on January 31, 2015


Are we any closer to a decision on not allowing emojis in post titles? I've seen a few of them lately - here's one today.
posted by Chrysostom at 9:43 AM on February 9, 2015


Yeah, sorry you didn't pick it up earlier in the thread. We allow emojis in post titles.

And it's probably just a technicality, but the post you mentioned is using a unicode character—not an emoji. And we've always allowed unicode characters on the site.
posted by pb (staff) at 9:53 AM on February 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


the post you mentioned is using a unicode character—not an emoji

Well, if you want to be technical, emojis from the Unicode character sets are Unicode characters too :-)

(that specific character is a fleuron from a block of dingbats in the "symbol, other" character category, which is the category where the emoji characters live...)
posted by effbot at 10:15 AM on February 9, 2015 [1 favorite]


ack, I've been out-technicaled! I should have known better. Thanks for the clarification, effbot.
posted by pb (staff) at 10:23 AM on February 9, 2015 [2 favorites]


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