Do a least 35 mefites play Marvel Puzzle Quest? May 1, 2022 7:42 PM   Subscribe

About three weeks ago MPQ was mentioned in a thread on the blue. At least 35 members favorited comments referencing the game. I play this game...

.. and I have an alliance, Rotato Force. If you play MPQ and are not in an alliance, join mine! If you play MPQ and are in some other alliance, what is it? I've been playing since it came out and call it Marvel Puzzle Crack, I play everyday (at least the daily Deadpool mission) and would love to talk about the game, strategy, roster management, which characters one uses the most, etc.

Thanks and see you in PVP, vrak
posted by vrakatar to MetaFilter-Related at 7:42 PM (23 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite

I do! I've been playing much, much too long. I'm in that place where I have almost all the characters rostered, except for some 5* I missed while I took a break. I have that problem of not enough ISO to level them up now.

Lately I enjoy sneaking into PvP with Immortal Hulk, Vulture, and Ikaris. As long as you keep the last two Airborne all the time, you can't lose (although winning may take much longer than you want.)

A good (and active!) alliance is key to advancing in the game, folks! Alliance events can be a lot of fun. I've been in a decent alliance for the last two years and it's been a game-changer.
posted by invokeuse at 10:29 AM on May 2 [1 favorite]


What is your alliance called, invo?
posted by vrakatar at 1:49 PM on May 2


I literally just changed alliances last week, because I had an AHA! moment that my old one wasn't really doing anything for me, and I'd like something more than just standard reward tokens. My new alliance is nice, and we're doing better in the rankings than my old one, but we're not super competitive. I think we usually rank in the 2-300 range for PVE events? (We're currently full, or I'd invite you to join, vrak!)

I played for a while when the game first came out, and then it dropped off my radar for a few years -- but I have all of my 2* heroes champed, and a few maxed, so now I'm focusing on champing my 3*s. I'm currently quite happy with my Thanos/Dr Strange/Iron Man team in PVE; I just -don't get- PVP, when any time I play I get faced with nothing but 5* teams.
posted by alynnk at 7:04 AM on May 3


My alliance is full, unfortunately, but I happened upon it by chance through the MPQ subreddit. They have recruitment posts every week, I think! Some alliances ask for more commitment than others; mine is pretty chill (they kick you after a week of inactivity or something, but if you let the commanders know ahead of time they will give you more time).
posted by invokeuse at 4:10 PM on May 3


I love using vulture, but my Ikiaris is still pretty low level. My real problem is most of the folks in my little alliance are not active.
posted by vrakatar at 7:01 PM on May 4


I am just getting back into this game. I found it very hard to wrap my head around how to play and put it down for a long while, but since I’ve been playing Start Trek Timelines i have a better understanding of how these games sort of work. I joined your alliance (I’m Jeneberry) and I’m still really low level but I’m playing. :)
posted by Cyrie at 11:07 AM on May 5


I also found my alliance, CasualPvE, through Reddit. Our rule is basically that if you're going to take more than 2 days off, you have to say something to the group chat. We're pretty lax as long as you communicate — I told them I was taking some time off & didn't know when I'd be back, and took about 2 years off at the beginning of the pandemic. I'm on day 1992, so still in the middle of the 4* to 5* transition. (To give a sense, I apparently joined the week after Old Man Logan got nerfed, and a bunch of people quit over it. Power creep is real. Also, back then, you couldn't have the same character on your team as a PvE enemy — like, you couldn't use the Hood on most of the Hunt.)

I'm currently super casual, usually just doing a couple of the daily 3* Deadpools and occasionally making a PvE clear, but usually if I'm playing, I'll do whatever PvP is up, since those have better rewards for the amount of time played (if you time it right, you can place in the top 100 by winning between 10 and 15 matches, and sometimes place higher if you shield). I am kinda disappointed that you only really see a handful of characters in PvP, but that's starting to change, even if it's still Gritty+Polaris every other match (can't complain too much; it works, but special tiles control too much of the metagame).
posted by klangklangston at 3:47 PM on May 5


Cool, Cyrie. You should see some awards dropping at the end of events.
posted by vrakatar at 6:51 PM on May 5


I started playing recently and joined Rotato Force. There's still a lot I don't understand (e.g. in the Dr. Strange event I can't play some of the levels because I supposedly need heroes, even though I've unlocked a dozen or so; and it seems a bit challenging/tedious to earn Hero Tokens; I have dozens of covers which I will probably have to sell just before they expire, because it takes so long to expand the roster enough to keep recruiting).
posted by johnofjack at 11:32 AM on May 7 [1 favorite]


Welcome to rotato force, joj. Some matches in PvE require a specific character, that is what is meant by "you need heroes to play this battle". So roster spots are important, and are the ONLY thing you should spend real money on, if you choose to do so.

My weekend is Sunday and Monday, so while I play everyday, those days are when I can look carefully at the PvP events going on and try to finish as high in the rankings as I can, and earn better rewards for the whole team. My highest level character is Prof X, 5 star, level 435. When I use him with my 405 level 5 star Storm, and my 360ish Kitty Pryde, I can come in in the 100 range, sometimes.

Pay attention to both daily and milestone quests- quests were not part of the original game, so I can not earn the rewards for leveling up 1 or 2 star characters, mine are all maxed. But new players can, and that can be a good source for covers, hero points, command points, and purple stuff (or as I call them, gold, silver and purple Canadough, a south park reference).

The game has gone through lots of changes, for example the version of Black Widow with the black hair and sort of batwoman costume can heal the whole team in match, but it isn't permanent healing. For the first year or so, that was not the case, so you could use her to heal your best two other characters in an easy match, then get back to the event you were working to complete without burning health packs. Good times.

Whelp, I'm going to log in and see bang out the daily deadpool mission, maybe a bit more.
posted by vrakatar at 9:41 PM on May 7 [1 favorite]


There's still a lot I don't understand (e.g. in the Dr. Strange event I can't play some of the levels because I supposedly need heroes, even though I've unlocked a dozen or so; and it seems a bit challenging/tedious to earn Hero Tokens; I have dozens of covers which I will probably have to sell just before they expire, because it takes so long to expand the roster enough to keep recruiting).

Handful of things to make your life better:

1) There are over 400 characters, so, there's a lot. There's a new one every roughly 2 weeks, but after a little while you'll get into a groove where you can easily earn enough Hero Points (the gold you can use for buying roster slots) to cover that. It does mean that you have to be kind of deliberate about the way you manager your roster. Vrak is right that hero points are the only thing you should ever think about spending real money on, and that roster slots are the only things you should spend hero points on (you'll eventually get to a point where that's not true, but when that happens, you'll know, and you'll know why—basically, if you have to ask, you're not there yet).

The game's money comes from impatience. There are very few things you can get in the game for money that you can't get for free, and as far as I know, absolutely none of them effect gameplay (costumes, etc.). If you are patient, you'll never need to spend a nickel.

2) Covers expire, tokens don't. Tokens give you covers; don't open covers unless you can use covers. This is especially important for Legendary tokens, which, in general, you should save until you have A LOT (IIRC, over 160 to guarantee full covers for a new 5*) and wait for a new S-tier 5* to use them. This can take a LONG time. Like, years. That's OK.

3) Every PvE will have featured heroes that are necessary to unlock some stages, but those stages are only necessary for doing min-max clears. That's the only way to get top 10 placement, but when you're starting out, that's not really the goal. It's not even my goal, and I've been playing for years. I'd rather have my time than get marginally better game stuff. Even clearing every node once is usually enough to place in the top 200. Once you're in the late game, some of the harder nodes become worth it instead of grinding on every single one.

4) Do the Daily Deadpool challenges. For that, you need one 1* hero (Juggernaut is best, but Ironman can work), three 2* heroes (best team: Thor, Magneto, Storm), three 3* heroes (I usually did Magneto, Storm, Loki, but Thor, Magneto, Storm works there too, just their 3* versions). Then there's a hard mode of a single 4* that rotates against a 4/5*. Don't worry about that for now, and a 2/3/4 team that also rotates every day.

Doing these every day gives you a regular supply of 3* heroes, as well as tokens for 1/2/3/4* heroes. It also gives you some hero points.

5) Your main goal right now is to get your 2* roster filled out, then start farming them. Promoting them to champions will let you rebalance their powers & also earn rewards for each new cover you get for them until, IIRC, level 96. Many of those rewards will be covers for 3* heroes. While you should sell off all your 1*s except one, your 2* are worth keeping around because you'll cycle through them and get rewards for it.

It takes most people about 6-10 months to get all the 3* characters to playable levels, then usually another 6-10 months to get them all champed. You should immediately pick one of the strongest 3* players to be a favorite so you can get bonus shards for them, giving another way to earn covers.

6) PvP is, per hour , way more rewarding than PvE. For PvE, the rewards are more predictable, but take longer, and you're up against otaku who will orient their lives around min-maxing. They're there in PvP too, but the match system does a better job of matching them against each other. Because there are only 500 players allowed in any given subset of matches, and each end time has a handful of subsets, you can often end up facing not very many opponents by getting into the match in the last couple hours. Sometimes it's full, but usually it's not. The bigger risk is that in the last several hours, most people start shielding. Shielding is almost never worth the HP, but a lot of people do it, and if they're shielded, you can't match with them. So you're basically trying to guess between how many opponents will be available vs how many you can challenge. Don't really worry about it now, just join. Even if you just win the three gimme matches in the beginning, you'll get finishing rewards.
posted by klangklangston at 3:48 PM on May 8 [2 favorites]


clearing every node once is usually enough to place in the top 200

That's what I shoot for, there will always be more missions.

4) Do the Daily Deadpool challenges. For that, you need one 1* hero (Juggernaut is best, but Ironman can work), three 2* heroes (best team: Thor, Magneto, Storm), three 3* heroes (I usually did Magneto, Storm, Loki, but Thor, Magneto, Storm works there too, just their 3* versions).

Daily Deadpool mission might be the best innovation they came up with. I use 1* Iron Man, Storm and Black Widow. For the two star I use Ares, Daken, and Storm (white suit), and one of my very favorite teams, I use 3* magneto, bullseye, and hawkeye. match purple to prime Magneto's polarity shift and generate protect tiles, then fire the power and activate speed shot.

Shielding is almost never worth the HP, but a lot of people do it

If it is getting late and I'm in the top 100 I slap a shield on it sometimes, and I'm watching that tally go up in the milestone quests. Quests are I think the most recent thing in the game.
posted by vrakatar at 4:52 PM on May 8 [1 favorite]


Yep, I'm an idiot, that last team I was talking about are all TWO star, not three.
posted by vrakatar at 6:45 PM on May 10


That's what I shoot for, there will always be more missions."

By this point, if I'm in a good slice, I'll just do the opener and the green node.

I use 1* Iron Man, Storm and Black Widow.

You should be able to beat it with just one 1* hero, which is boom two more roster spots. 2* are worth having rostered because they farm; 1* are useless once you can use those slots for 2*. Juggernaut is the easiest, because he's just the two colors with board shake.
posted by klangklangston at 10:14 PM on May 10


I play daily! I've currently got all characters but one 5-star and am 'recycling' my 3 and 4 stars. I'm in a random alliance and would happily join you guys if there is room.
posted by tryniti at 7:45 AM on May 11


I think there is.
posted by vrakatar at 8:30 AM on May 11


There are some good tips here, thanks. At this point I can't do much with the Deadpool Daily missions--the first one is a gimme; the next is hit or miss; and I usually can't beat the 2nd 2-star one.

I am still grinding levels sometimes, if I'm bored and most of my heroes are down (I have just 24 heroes, most 1- and 2-star) and there's an easy level with rewards I haven't fully unlocked.

I have noticed that certain teams seem to be better than others, though I couldn't say why yet. I'll try some of the ones suggested above.
posted by johnofjack at 3:52 PM on May 11


Cyrie, you asked a question in the in-game chat about maxed out covers? That could mean saved covers, or characters that you have fully leveled up/championed (the game does seem to add features and stuff to micro manage often enough, don't get me started on costumes and supports) so if you can clarify I might know the solution.

I'll take a look at your roster as well.
posted by vrakatar at 8:30 PM on May 11


So my roster currently has 19 spots, which are full. I have a bunch of reward characters waiting to be redeemed but I can't yet because I don't have room and it's taking a while to accumulate hero points to expand. I have a few 1star characters that are fully maxxed out or about to be maxxed out - max level, max powers - and I have more of the 1-stars maybe than I need. I'd like to get some more 3star and 4 star characters in my roster.

In Star Trek Timelines, you can take a maxxed out character and put it in the freezer if you are running short on active spots and you don't need that character for anything in particular, to make more room for new characters if you can't buy more slots right that second. Does MPQ have a similar option for some of those lower level characters that I don't need every day but might want to access at some point in the future when I have more spots? Or are the only options to sell unwanted characters or expand the roster?
posted by Cyrie at 8:12 AM on May 12


"I have noticed that certain teams seem to be better than others, though I couldn't say why yet. I'll try some of the ones suggested above."

It's almost all based on synergy between characters. The reason why 2* Thor (535 or 355), Magneto (355) and Storm (553) works is that Thor has self-synergy (his red creates yellow tiles; his yellow creates green tiles, his green is a team nuke), Magneto's purple feeds Storm, whose blue has a stun and does a lot of team damage relative to her rarity/level. Magneto's blue and red are mostly useless, and Storm's green and yellow are mostly useless.

Similarly, the 3* team of Magneto (355), Storm (535/553) and Loki (355) works because Magneto's red clears out team-up tiles, which creates cascades, Storm's green creates more cascades and also gathers AP, and Loki's purple board shuffle creates more cascades, and that all feeds Magneto's blue, which does a lot of damage. With a little luck, you can beat a match in 2 or 3 turns.

Or, when you get up to the 4/5 transition, the reason why Kitty-Grocket-Polaris is so popular is that Kitty's passive yellow adds oomph to the strike tiles Grocket starts with, and Polaris does passive damage based on special tiles, and creates more specials on match.

With a couple of exceptions, defensive characters are relatively underpowered and emphasizing more offense lets you end matches quicker, which saves your health overall. Likewise, faster powers are usually better (there are spreadsheets out there with Damage/AP ratios). You might also want to google around to see the current tier lists, so you know where to prioritize your ISO.

"I have a few 1star characters that are fully maxxed out or about to be maxxed out - max level, max powers - and I have more of the 1-stars maybe than I need. I'd like to get some more 3star and 4 star characters in my roster. "

Just sell the maxed 1*. That's the easiest way to free up roster spots, and they're never required characters except for DDQ's first mission. Sell them without remorse — a constant stream of standard tokens means that if you ever really want them again because of completist impulses, you can get them, but again, you'll never need them and they're just taking up space. Selling them at max level gets back all of the ISO you put in, but even if they're not maxed, you don't lose much.

I have a bunch of reward characters waiting to be redeemed but I can't yet because I don't have room and it's taking a while to accumulate hero points to expand. "

Tokens never expire. Covers do. Don't open tokens until you have the space for the characters.

And really, because of the way scaling works, don't open any legendary tokens until you have at least half the 3* maxed, because most 5* are useless until they get at least a couple covers, and you won't have the ISO to level them for a while, so all they'll do is increase the level of enemies you get matched with. Besides, you have much better odds of getting a better 5* if you hold onto the tokens until you can open a whole bunch at once.
posted by klangklangston at 12:01 PM on May 12


I think klang explained it better than I could have, Cyrie, let us know if so. I have all the 1 stars maxxed, but only because I started playing shortly after the game came out, so my roster grew as the game grew, and while I never played Pokemon I seem to take a "gotta catch em all" approach to it.

Going to log in now for a bit, tally ho!
posted by vrakatar at 7:38 PM on May 12


Just joined RF as whootay.
posted by Halloween Jack at 7:30 AM on May 16


groovy
posted by vrakatar at 9:05 AM on May 16


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