sub quality journalistic demagogues December 16, 2002 7:40 AM   Subscribe

So, Newsmax before Newsweek? I tend to find Newsmax, CommonDreams, YellowTimes, BushWatch all sub quality journalistic demagogues. A question of policy.
posted by four panels to Etiquette/Policy at 7:40 AM (31 comments total)

4P: What's your point?
posted by mischief at 7:44 AM on December 16, 2002


That was my bad, and I apologize for it. I wasn't very familiar with Newsmax, and mistook it for an actual news outlet rather than an propaganda machine.
posted by oissubke at 7:45 AM on December 16, 2002


Also mine, since I derailed four panels' thread with accusations of doublepostery. My guess is that Matt axed your thread because he had the same thought I did, which was "confirmed" by my comment. Except that I was dead wrong. Again, I apologize (to 4P and all).
posted by gleuschk at 7:49 AM on December 16, 2002


The above mentioned sites are all pretty much op ed collectors for the left. In fairness they should be avoided unless you counter with a looney from the right.
posted by jbou at 7:49 AM on December 16, 2002


Maybe it was deleted because you were trying to be all snarky and clever by parroting oissubke's prose while linking to an article that took the opposite view. I doubt the front page is the place to take swipes at other members.
posted by pardonyou? at 8:03 AM on December 16, 2002


I should say, however, that I do agree that links from any of the named sources should be automatically deleted. Any post linking to those sites is essentially saying: "Here is what the [left/right] thinks about this issue." That's nice and all, but it's not exactly filtering the 'net
posted by pardonyou? at 8:30 AM on December 16, 2002


There were a lot of problems with that post 4p. For one, it was primarily a chauvinistic political pissing match with oissubke, and I think you know how the community feels about at that. Two, there, were already two competing Trent Lott posts on the FP. There was no reason you couldn't just post your link under one of those two discussions, instead of cluttering the FP with more of this, already over-represented, issue.
posted by dgaicun at 8:47 AM on December 16, 2002


Settle down, everybody. Let's follow Trent's example and just wish each other a white Christmas.
posted by NortonDC at 8:49 AM on December 16, 2002


Settle down, everybody. Let's follow Trent's example and just wish each other a white Christmas.

Aha! Racism finally rears its ugly head on MeFi! Trent Lottism! Trent Lottism!

(Just kidding. A Merry Xmas to all.)
posted by Shane at 9:01 AM on December 16, 2002


I genuinely like oissubke, generally for his sincerity.

The question of policy remains.
posted by four panels at 9:27 AM on December 16, 2002


Policy answer: Stop posting political posts
posted by Stan Chin at 9:31 AM on December 16, 2002


The question of policy remains.

That said, you are correct, tabloid pap should be, at the least, actively discouraged. The sites you list fit the mark nicely.
posted by dgaicun at 9:31 AM on December 16, 2002


If Bing Crosby had lived, we wouldn't have had all these problems.
posted by owillis at 9:32 AM on December 16, 2002


question of policy
ah christ, your politically motivated attempted FP juxtaposition failed, so you grasp at straws in order to justify this meta?
posted by quonsar at 9:38 AM on December 16, 2002


four panels, both posts suck in retrospect, but since one stayed up, there was no reason to add another. Your post would have been more at home as a comment in the other thread.

Also, you linked to the front page of newsweek, not a permanent link to the article you intended people to read, which was bad form.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:42 AM on December 16, 2002


I agree with quonsar again. Dude...
posted by BlueTrain at 10:00 AM on December 16, 2002


see a doctor.
posted by quonsar at 10:07 AM on December 16, 2002


I should say, however, that I do agree that links from any of the named sources should be automatically deleted.

Metafilter: Links to interesting things all over the Web--except on sites we don't like.
posted by rushmc at 10:13 AM on December 16, 2002


Metafilter: Links to interesting things all over the Web--except on sites we don't like.

Nice try, but that wasn't my point at all. It has nothing to do with "like" or "dislike." It has to do with the propensity for such posts to merely be "I feel this way, and so does X site." I happen to "like" many things I read at the left sites, and I happen to "like" (though probably less often) some things I read at, say, The Weekly Standard. Even if I agree with the point being made, I think it makes a bad post, and certainly sets up the comments for little more than one of those "I'm right, you're wrong!" "No, you're wrong, I'm right!" circles. But some people get off on those posts, so maybe they should stay.
posted by pardonyou? at 10:45 AM on December 16, 2002


The above mentioned sites are all pretty much op ed collectors for the left.

NewsMax?
posted by rcade at 10:52 AM on December 16, 2002


If Bing Crosby had lived, we wouldn't have had all these problems.

Yes, he would have just drunkenly beaten the shit out of all the whiny little children here.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 11:34 AM on December 16, 2002


"drunkenly beaten the shit out of all the whiny little children here."

Can I get tickets for this? Seriously. I would totally pay money for this.
posted by y6y6y6 at 1:15 PM on December 16, 2002


...propensity...sets up the comments...

The thing is, I prefer to hold individuals responsible for their comments, rather than blame a post/link/site for being "incendiary" and "forcing them" to comment badly.
posted by rushmc at 1:54 PM on December 16, 2002


The above mentioned sites are all pretty much op ed collectors for the left.

NewsMax?


Depends on your perspective. I always find it amusing that MeFi is considered left-leaning.
posted by inpHilltr8r at 2:52 PM on December 16, 2002


Policy answer: Stop posting political posts

Lean, mean, and clean.
posted by hama7 at 3:36 PM on December 16, 2002


Policy answer: Stop posting political posts
And when somebody does post a political thread, don't comment in it. BOYCOTT THE POLITICAL THREADS!
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 5:01 AM on December 17, 2002


BOYCOTT THE POLITICAL THREADS!

Finally a campaign I can support.
posted by timeistight at 8:54 AM on December 17, 2002


BOYCOTT ALL THREADS I DON'T LIKE, DAMMIT! THEY THREATEN ME!
posted by rushmc at 9:59 AM on December 17, 2002


They threaten MetaFilter, rushmc; they just bore me.
posted by timeistight at 10:29 AM on December 17, 2002


BOYCOTT THE POLITICAL THREADS!

That makes three of us - just 16,997 to go! Spread the word!
posted by dg at 2:03 PM on December 17, 2002


They threaten MetaFilter, rushmc

Nonsense. Political posts don't threaten MetaFilter; BAD posts threaten MetaFilter. They are not always synonymous.
posted by rushmc at 2:21 PM on December 17, 2002


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