Best blogs poll over at Forbes.

March 18, 2003 12:00 AM

Perfidious sideblog-collapsers, please take note: Forbes Magazine is holding a Best Luxury Media Blogs Under $5 Poll and MetaFilter is currently ahead, despite ferocious competition from the despicable opposition, i.e. the honourable Romenesko and bleedin' Gawker, no less. Can we win? Should we? Do we want to? [Do please check sideblog for the official communiqué.]
posted by MiguelCardoso to MetaFilter-Related at 12:00 AM (76 comments total)

[For purposes of record, MetaFilter currently stands at 257 votes, with 42% of the total.]
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:59 AM on March 18, 2003

There's no limit to topics fit for Metafilter readers. There are links about the possibility of war with Iraq and about Albert Einstein's birthday, some from mainstream publications, others from the very fringe. Everything from Iraq to the anniversary of Einstein's birthday is offered up for dissection.

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
FORBES?
posted by eddydamascene at 1:02 AM on March 18, 2003

Heh. Methinks it might have been eddy who just made it 258. Is it time to resurrect an old cult-thread tradition and provocatively affirm we'll never reach 300? ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 1:07 AM on March 18, 2003

It's in the bizzag.
posted by lazaruslong at 1:50 AM on March 18, 2003

Phew! Last night when I voted, the dastardly Gawker was way out ahead. Way to go, MeFiosi!
posted by Vidiot at 3:16 AM on March 18, 2003

so, this is a media blog, eh? forbes has never had the first clue about the internet, and matt's just... jesus. i'd have expected him to ridicule forbes, not spread his legs...
posted by quonsar at 4:33 AM on March 18, 2003

thats a rather interesting image konse.
Surely matt's allowed a compliment every now and then.
Im sure forbes will get round to blort eventually.
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:42 AM on March 18, 2003

matt haughey, media whore?
posted by crunchland at 5:21 AM on March 18, 2003

up yours, sgt. implying that i'm jealous? i thought you were smarter than that. after reading dumptruck loads of pissing and moaning about newsfilter posts for the past 2 years, forbes calls mefi a 'media blog' and matt just... ah, to hell with it.
posted by quonsar at 6:08 AM on March 18, 2003

Jeez ... just what was forbes thinking with those green and black graphics
posted by MintSauce at 6:12 AM on March 18, 2003

[350 votes, 48%!]
posted by MiguelCardoso at 6:14 AM on March 18, 2003

quonsar, it seems to me that there is "Media" meaning venues of mass communication, and then "News Media". Internet is a medium of communication, and that's our beat...
posted by taz at 6:34 AM on March 18, 2003

I tried to vote, but Forbes' site doesn't seem to be Mac compatible.....sigh

What about the "Best 'Vibrating broomstick' media blog" award?
posted by troutfishing at 6:42 AM on March 18, 2003

It's nice to be noticed, and I don't fault Matt for running with this as far as possible. But the fact is MetaFilter ain't a media blog. Romenesko is.

Still, if MeFi, not even being a media blog, can best those that are, then hooray for us.

Oh, and, uh, Matt.
posted by soyjoy at 6:57 AM on March 18, 2003

Mefi? A "media blog"?

Maybe it's time to *sigh* and go with the flow, or push the Newsfilter-escape-valve alternative of MoJo even harder now . . ?
posted by Shane at 7:56 AM on March 18, 2003

What The Freep, Matt?
posted by liam at 8:00 AM on March 18, 2003

If you consider the web a medium, and we filter the web, then yes, we are a media glob blog.
posted by whatnot at 8:07 AM on March 18, 2003

They're the ones that came up with the media blog title, not me, and it was the only thing that sort of fit MeFi.

quonsar, what am I supposed to do? Tell them to fuck off? I was having a little fun with gawker by putting it on the sideblog was all. (and when did gawker become a media blog? it's just yuppie gossip)
posted by mathowie (staff) at 8:11 AM on March 18, 2003

ach! taz, i'm not REALLY upset about this, i just love giving the sarge the bizniss...

but i am surprised that this wasn't in meta, that it just appeared without comment on the sidebar, and from that i imputed (probably incorrectly) that matt found it rather embarrassing and wondered why he didn't address it forthrightly. no big deal.

forbes really has no clue about the internet.
posted by quonsar at 8:13 AM on March 18, 2003

and when did gawker become a media blog? it's just yuppie gossip

exactly. they're comparing apples/oranges/pineapples

Romenesko, MeFi and GagMeWithAYuppieSpoonGawker are totally different sites. they're (in that order) a media chitchat blog, a community weblog and a CondeNastPorn yuppie extravaganza. comparisons are pointless. but I still think that, as Matt's guests, if he wants to win the contest we could do worse than stuffing the ballot for him


forbes really has no clue about the internet.

I agree, but they're hardly alone: no major magazine/newspaper seems to have a clue about it
posted by matteo at 8:25 AM on March 18, 2003

they're comparing apples/oranges/pineapples

or... (dare I say?), "apples/oranges/pancakes"
posted by taz at 8:31 AM on March 18, 2003

Fuck all of you. I'm getting my own fucking (media) glob.
posted by Shane at 8:32 AM on March 18, 2003

[558 votes, 55%. Followed *chortle* closely by Gawker with 136 votes and 13%.]

Btw, I'm down with Matt's sense of humour. Just think of the tagline:

MetaFilter: The Actively News-discouraging No.1 Media Blog in the World.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:43 AM on March 18, 2003

can't you crawl any deeper up Matt's butt, miguel?
posted by crunchland at 8:52 AM on March 18, 2003

I'm sorta gobsmacked that we're beating Romanesko, but I guess "media blog" is pretty undefined here.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:56 AM on March 18, 2003

Hey, they may have no clue, but the recognition from a huge national publication is a compliment to Matt for what he built, so yay on that and champagne all round! Good on you Matt! If there is any justice in the world, this will lead some big clients with deep pockets to your door.
posted by madamjujujive at 8:57 AM on March 18, 2003

I just checked my pockets and would like to submit a bid of two frootloops and a button.
Is that enough? : >
posted by amberglow at 9:08 AM on March 18, 2003

up yours, sgt.

make that three frootloops.
posted by sgt.serenity at 9:14 AM on March 18, 2003

can't you crawl any deeper up Matt's butt, miguel?

Ooohh... You're such a negative, but amusing little bitch, crunchie! And so rebellious and independent and free! You make everything daring and adventurous and reckless! And effortlessly! Your every comment just makes me want to shed my girdle and let rip the undulant folds of my inner self. Everything you touch turns magically to laughter and irreverence. I feel like jelly when I'm near you. And the amazing this is, you do it on wit and intelligence alone. You must let me in on your little secret some day. And nasty you for capitalizing Matt's name but nor mine, you loveable rascal!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:34 AM on March 18, 2003

Metafilter : Let rip the undulant folds of thy inner self
posted by th3ph17 at 9:41 AM on March 18, 2003

you broke out your thesaurus for that one, didn't you migs?
posted by crunchland at 9:42 AM on March 18, 2003

I tried to vote, but Forbes' site doesn't seem to be Mac compatible.....sigh

Hey there sexy
I voted with a Mac....
For Gawker that is! :P

posted by dgaicun at 9:42 AM on March 18, 2003

It votes fine with Safari if you press submit twice, for some reason. Thank god I was able to get my vote in for Gawker. ":)" *
posted by RJ Reynolds at 10:03 AM on March 18, 2003

i smell commerce
posted by clavdivs at 10:12 AM on March 18, 2003

(and when did gawker become a media blog? it's just yuppie gossip)

Ahem, that's just pretentious wannabe yuppie gossip

Fuck all of you. I'm getting my own fucking (media) glob.

As long as it isn't another a warglob.
posted by y2karl at 10:21 AM on March 18, 2003

Aren't we supposed to be voting for Kottke?
posted by timeistight at 10:25 AM on March 18, 2003

OKAY! karl and TisT wrapped it up nicely. Now, EVERYBODY CLENCH!
[/like I'm one to talk.]
posted by Shane at 10:41 AM on March 18, 2003

I voted for fark.
posted by angry modem at 10:46 AM on March 18, 2003

Just to be clear, my link was supposed to go to the timestamp for Matt's comment I stopped [reading MeTa] months ago, when everything descending into pointless chatter at 20 comments. Now it looks like it goes to stavro's comment, for some reason.
posted by Shane at 11:03 AM on March 18, 2003

up yours, sgt.

You're such a negative, but amusing little bitch

can't you crawl any deeper up Matt's butt, miguel

i'd have expected him to ridicule forbes, not spread his legs


Uh... Best infighting member-on-member action blog?
posted by jonson at 11:04 AM on March 18, 2003

I'll read Forbes when it gives in to the Maxim thing and puts Warren Buffet in a thong.
posted by dong_resin at 11:07 AM on March 18, 2003

Your every comment just makes me want to shed my girdle and let rip the undulant folds of my inner self.
Sounds like a personal problem to me.
(Okay, I'll clench now.)
posted by Shane at 11:13 AM on March 18, 2003

Far greater trolls than you, crunchland, have failed at making Miguel lose his civility.
You did get him to use the term "bitch", though.
posted by signal at 11:40 AM on March 18, 2003

MetaFilter: matt's just... jesus

I'm also down for the member-on-member action!
posted by WolfDaddy at 12:12 PM on March 18, 2003

Wait -- we've gotten this far in the thread without anyone jumping on Miguel's case for wasting a MeTa thread on pointing out something that Matt already linked in the sidebar?

This is not the MetaTalk I know and love.
posted by webmutant at 12:25 PM on March 18, 2003

Perfidious sideblog-collapsers, please take note...
Christ, I collapse a sideblog once, and now I'm "perfidious." I don't like the sound of that. Where the hell is my dictionary?
posted by Shane at 12:29 PM on March 18, 2003

K5 was in their "Best tech blogs" wrapup. Amusingly, my referer logs don't show Forbes.com yet (which means that less than 150 hits came through from that article). Gizmodo's mention of the article and who was listed brought in 426 hits.

I don't think Forbes.com is the internet powerhouse we all think it is. But beyond that, it occurred to me that while I was relatively flattered for the nod, I don't really know why. I mean, on the web K5 (and Metafilter) are much bigger and more influential than forbes.com. So why do we still feel like the kid brother of the relationship?
posted by rusty at 12:58 PM on March 18, 2003

Uh oh...the mighty FARK juggernaut has been awakened.
posted by Guy Smiley at 1:34 PM on March 18, 2003

Heh. Now we see what the real powerhouse is. None of the Above Fark will win by a landslide.

The fark thread where they gang up to vote for "none of the above" makes for an interesting read, though - a few commenters clearly have no idea what metafilter is, but dislike it anyway. In contrast, every time there's a link here that appeared on fark, you can count on a metatalk thread about it ("should we be repeating what's already been on fark? discuss.") I'd wager that a much higher proportion of metafitler readers are also fark readers than vice-versa.
posted by yhbc at 1:54 PM on March 18, 2003

Freepers who love boobies love Fark^TM
posted by mr_crash_davis at 2:02 PM on March 18, 2003

{pops head in}

whoz gonna sing "Screaming MeMies" for me birthday....hmmmm. who i say.

{casts passwall spell}
posted by clavdivs at 2:16 PM on March 18, 2003

Uh-oh,

None of the above
3733 votes (76%)

www.metafilter.com
770 votes (16%)

Of course, i always delete my cookies after a poll... (",)
posted by dash_slot- at 2:27 PM on March 18, 2003

I say we ignore the "Fark" vote and call MeFi #1 with 64% of the vote.

On preview, make that 65% ;-)
posted by dg at 2:38 PM on March 18, 2003

as your resident repeating comment person,
please tell me how to make multiple comments in forbes,
this will be my way of making up for it.
It may be juvenile and silly, but i would certainly enjoy putting one over on fark.
posted by sgt.serenity at 3:50 PM on March 18, 2003

You're going to do 3000+ sarge? Grab a case of beer and a carton of smokes.
posted by Ufez Jones at 4:50 PM on March 18, 2003

I say we ignore the "Fark" vote and call MeFi #1 with 64% of the vote.
didn't see the above as a choice, but maybe why for this:
None of the above 5201 votes (80%)
posted by thomcatspike at 4:51 PM on March 18, 2003

None of the above 5201 votes (80%)
We're farked.
posted by Shane at 5:02 PM on March 18, 2003

i smell commerce

No, that was just me again. Sorry.

Also : Miguel, that comeback was right up there with the legendary 'fuck the fuck off' comment. At the risk of crawling up your butt, I have to award a 10.0 from the Canadian judge.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:21 PM on March 18, 2003

hmm ya cant cheat on it, ah well.
you may have won this battle farkers,
but you have not won the war etc etc blah blah.
as long as one of us still has two brain cells to rub together
then we are not defeated !
posted by sgt.serenity at 5:24 PM on March 18, 2003

Miguel, have you been going to insult school lately? Wow! I stand in awe of your lively insults; indeed, I crawl deep up your butt.
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 6:09 PM on March 18, 2003

Dare we ask why everyone is crawling up Miguel's butt? (You'd think Mrs. Miguel might object....or at least sell the picture to someone at Fark.)
posted by Vidiot at 7:00 PM on March 18, 2003

*walks in, scratches head, shrugs, crawls up Miguel's butt*
posted by Vidiot at 7:01 PM on March 18, 2003

hey ! im tryin to sleep up here!
posted by sgt.serenity at 7:04 PM on March 18, 2003

I must admit, these folds are quite undulant.
posted by dgaicun at 7:12 PM on March 18, 2003

I had far too much Brazilian black bean stew for dinner, is all I'm saying.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:46 PM on March 18, 2003

Best tagline ever.

Metafilter: *walks in, scratches head, shrugs, crawls up Miguel's butt*
posted by rusty at 11:30 PM on March 18, 2003

We can't be hatin' on Fark -- they've got a gif and everything!
posted by Guy Smiley at 12:24 AM on March 19, 2003

The discussion at the bottom of the Forbes' poll page is farking hilarious:

From: AngryInch 12:15 am
To: ALL Poll (147 of 153)
24.147 in reply to 24.1

This is from the second place blog:

Uh oh...the mighty FARK juggernaut has been awakened.
posted by Guy Smiley at 1:34 PM PST on March 18

THAT'S RIGHT! This is the equivalent of what a dog trainer would describe as submissive urination. Sit Ubu, sit.

MeFi: The second place blog.

No need to use an insulting analogy AngryInch. The folks over at MetaFilter are pretty cool and they have been excellent sports - two traits that you apparently lack.
...
24.153 in reply to 24.1

Hmm... quite interesting. Matt Haughey of metafilter tries to rig the poll by asking members on the front page to vote for metafilter. Only as a joke of course (in the hope of future commercial success to get a higher price when he will try to sell the email addresses of members to spammers at some point).

Then they introduce their arrogance and unintelligence in a related thread.

http://metatalk.metafilter.com/mefi/3114

Fark: Groupthink - The New Hotness
posted by Space Coyote at 3:22 AM on March 19, 2003

climbing up miguel's butt when he's deep up Matt's butt is not only tricky, but pretty unsanitary, too. I hope you guys remember to wash your hands when you're done.
posted by crunchland at 7:17 AM on March 19, 2003

Dr Freud respectfully diagnoses butt envy.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:25 AM on March 19, 2003

miguel's butt - more addictive than crack.
posted by sgt.serenity at 7:41 AM on March 19, 2003

miguel - more addictive butt crack. (?)
posted by twine42 at 7:50 AM on March 19, 2003

Oh yes please, more addictive butt cracks!

I can't get enough!
posted by soyjoy at 8:44 AM on March 19, 2003

Yeah, but at least it's not Leftist Groupthink.

from Fark:
03-18-03 03:37:16 PM MsPentyuth
Good god, as long as metafilter doesn't win that. I used to like that place but it's just such an den of arrogant snots that it becomes unbearable after a while.

MetaFilter: Just Such an Den of Arrogant Snots
posted by kaibutsu at 5:59 PM on March 19, 2003

Problem is that the average displayed inteligence is higher here than on Fark. When I post there (which is rare now) I feel myself getting younger by about ten years. Very strange.

Do I recall seeing a tagline MetaFilter: At least it's not Fark, or was that a figment of my imagination?
posted by twine42 at 4:49 AM on March 20, 2003

MetaFilter: Just Such a Den of arrogant Snots

Sad but often true...
posted by Shane at 6:07 AM on March 20, 2003