debka verboten April 3, 2003 9:26 AM   Subscribe

i seem to recall mathowie expressly forbidding postroad from ever posting a debka link again. since postroad continually flouts even basic metafilter guidelines and seems to regard this forum as his personal colostomy bag, i think he needs a time out.
posted by donkeyschlong to Etiquette/Policy at 9:26 AM (92 comments total)

wah! wah! wah! [sniffle]
posted by quonsar at 9:36 AM on April 3, 2003


Qvonsardivs hath spoken.
posted by y2karl at 9:42 AM on April 3, 2003


since postroad continually flouts even basic metafilter guidelines

Agreed. No more Debka.

Speaking of guidelines, it would be negligent not to mention this another important guideline, directed at those making daily Iraqfilter posts:

If you're going to make a post related to Iraq and the impending war, please reconsider, as the topic has been discussed previously many times. --mathowie
posted by dhoyt at 9:48 AM on April 3, 2003


once again, it's only a website. Don't get your panties in a bunch, if #1 wishes to delete, he shall.
posted by scottymac at 9:51 AM on April 3, 2003


sorry:

"not to mention this another important guideline..."
posted by dhoyt at 9:51 AM on April 3, 2003


i suppose it depends on whether you take matt's note as a friendly reminder or as a capital-letter NOTE implying an ultimatum/warning.

it would be nice to not need WARNINGS and just operate on common sense and some degree of metafilterian manners.
posted by th3ph17 at 9:56 AM on April 3, 2003


Translated as: "Even though Matt has said over and over he isn't going to run this site from a hard and fast list of rules, I suggest he enforce the hard and fast list of rules he doesn't have."
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:59 AM on April 3, 2003


Isn't it great when quonsar "contributes"? What, is this topic too valid or something?
posted by Skot at 10:02 AM on April 3, 2003


people have been called out before for serially junking up the site. why should postroad get a pass?
posted by donkeyschlong at 10:05 AM on April 3, 2003


which part of my 'contribution' did you not understand, Skot. perhaps you require visual aids.

posted by quonsar at 10:14 AM on April 3, 2003


Although the topic is valid, Postroad will never see it. He has never posted or commented in MetaTalk.

also, if you click through his user page, be advised his blog is NSFW
posted by PrinceValium at 10:21 AM on April 3, 2003


I've already asked this once, I think, in another of the many "Postroad's shitting all over the front page" MetaTalk threads: I'd be really curious to know how many of Postroad's fpp's have been deleted -- I suppose he's the most-deleted user.

contribution indexes are cool, but a "most-deleted users" index would be even more interesting

(I'd be all for a 3-strikes-you're-out-policy, but I guess Matt's against it)
posted by matteo at 10:27 AM on April 3, 2003


which part of my 'contribution' did you not understand, Skot.

This part:

wah! wah! wah! [sniffle]

Specifically, it's reason for existence. You don't have anything to say about the thread except to imply that it's just crybabying? Twice? (Because I'm that stupid!)

Don't worry, man. This whole place is just here for your own amusement and glory. I think it's in the guidelines.
posted by Skot at 10:30 AM on April 3, 2003


Um, Skot, I think it's a perfectly logical reply given the FPP's reference to a "time out."

Not that quonsar wants or needs defending . . .
posted by hackly_fracture at 10:41 AM on April 3, 2003


yeah, it's wasn't really an ultimatum. I just hoped he would no longer post unsourced wild speculation from Debka and try to pass it off as "news"

Even postroad admits that it is only 2/3 accurate. It's supposed to be a news organization. I expect NYT or Fox News to be at least 95% accurate.

I've read school newspapers that have a better accuracy record than Debka.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:45 AM on April 3, 2003


Quonsar was just shitting on the thread. He'd be the first to admit it, I'm sure. That's mainly what quonsar does. But, it seems that if you do it enough times, shitting on threads becomes your schtick and you get a free pass.
posted by Mid at 10:49 AM on April 3, 2003


perhaps someone should register the handle daortsop and start posting yellowtimes links like crazy.
posted by donkeyschlong at 10:50 AM on April 3, 2003


Metafilter: your personal colostomy bag

i couldn't resist
posted by amberglow at 10:50 AM on April 3, 2003


You don't have anything to say about the thread except to imply that it's just crybabying?

correct.
[puts a gold star on skot's comment]
posted by quonsar at 10:51 AM on April 3, 2003


So, Quonsar, that begs the question: Why didn't you JUST SAY IT WAS ABOUT CRYBABYING rather than making an ass of yourself?
posted by SpecialK at 11:00 AM on April 3, 2003


because by making an ass of himself, quonsar helps us see the ass in all of us.
wait, that doesn't sound right, but you know what i mean.
posted by whatnot at 11:44 AM on April 3, 2003


specialk, because i didn't fucking feel like it. any other stupid questions?
posted by quonsar at 11:52 AM on April 3, 2003


But, it seems that if you do it enough times, shitting on threads becomes your schtick and you get a free pass.

Saying quonsar is shitting on this thread is shitting on this thread, in a sense. He expressed himself with force. When people express themselves with force, it follows naturally that other people are irritated and they, in turn,respond in force, to which response a response iin turn s made and so on and so on. Ego is not a vanishing resource here. It's very hard, once things start escalating, to head off that escalation--which most people find more offensive than the original offense. As has been said before it's like watching a couple fight at a party or listening to your parents yelling at each other after you've gone to bed..

He may be crusty or offensive at times but he's brought much to the table. It's the people who bring nothing to the table and are consistently offensive who get the boot in my experience.
posted by y2karl at 11:53 AM on April 3, 2003


now, calm down quonsar--I just stuck up for you. I think everyone has made themselves clear on the topic. Enough.


..fuck, the typos above. Note to self, never post with your glasses off. And spell check....
posted by y2karl at 11:57 AM on April 3, 2003


"yeah, it wasn't really an ultimatum"...So Matt, would you characterize it more along the lines of a UN Resolution? I thought about commenting in the thread about the million Chinese troops waiting to kill us in Afghanistan as reported by Debka back in those days, but why bother? Everyone knows they're as reliable as a 5¢ condom in a $2 whorehouse.
posted by Mack Twain at 12:01 PM on April 3, 2003


...it follows naturally that other people are irritated and they, in turn,respond in force

sex is also natural but I don't want you humping my leg on the bus. Knowing the proper place for your "natural" behavior is pretty important and the question may be "Is MeFi now a place where shitting on the thread is okay as long as you're generally a productive contributor?" I honestly don't know. I hate pissing matches and it seems like someone should be able step up to the plate and decide to chill out and not make things worse. When people say MeFi is a boyzone, they don't mean boobie posts, they mean this sort of thing exactly.
posted by jessamyn at 12:02 PM on April 3, 2003


"Why didn't you JUST SAY IT WAS ABOUT CRYBABYING rather than making an ass of yourself?"

It's called trolling? Flamebait? Which you are encouraging.

I know we don't ban users for mild trolling here. Which means that just ignoring it till the admin deletes the user account won't work. But why do we have to keep rewarding the troll? SpecialK, do you really not get it? He's doing it for attention. He's trying to get a rise out of people who are wound too tight.

It's not going to stop. Not here. But at least don't give him the exact reaction he was trolling for. WTF?
posted by y6y6y6 at 12:04 PM on April 3, 2003


if you don't stop picking on quonosaro, I'm going to scream!
posted by mcsweetie at 12:19 PM on April 3, 2003


Qvonsardivs hath spoken.

Grand Muff Jr.: "will fear keep the local systems in line?"

Grand Muff Sr.: "I hope so son, I hope so"
posted by clavdivs at 12:20 PM on April 3, 2003


jeez. someone has their elbow on the autoclench button again.
posted by quonsar at 12:41 PM on April 3, 2003


I don't hump legs on buses, never without a green light and it usually takes whacking me on the head with a cast iron drying pan to notice those. Humping on the leg is not the analogy to use--a playground fight at gradeschool, football and war come closer to the mark.

You are right that it's a guy thing--it's very hard for us not to get our backs up and go back and forth. I certainly am not with out sin on the topic.

I don't think you'll ever see conversation as agon ever disappear between men, it's wired in monkey behavior. To use a TV analogy, C-Span is the hope, Jerry Springer the fear and the McLaughlin Report all too often the mean. At least we're not whcking each other with folding chairs all that often.

And Jesus Christ, I'm glad women don't do it all that often--it would be like a society of hyenas in here.
posted by y2karl at 12:51 PM on April 3, 2003


And if by someone you mean quonsar here and now, I agree--chill out crazy coot.
posted by y2karl at 12:59 PM on April 3, 2003


Men...women...

We all have to live together in $hrub's Amerikkka™, d00ds.
posted by dhoyt at 1:03 PM on April 3, 2003


Oh come on! What Shall We Do with the Boo-Hoo Baby? I can't believe no one else thinks that's hilarious. It's like corresponding with Vulcans around here sometimes.
posted by Samsonov14 at 1:06 PM on April 3, 2003


sex is also natural but I don't want you humping my leg on the bus.

haven't I apologized enough, jess?
posted by Ty Webb at 1:06 PM on April 3, 2003


also, if you click through his user page, be advised his blog is NSFW
So is the Debka site, for some reason, where I work anyway. So I'm in agreement to the extent that my curiousity just gave me yet another entry in the old forbidden sites log here.
posted by tr33hggr at 1:13 PM on April 3, 2003


ok, I warned you dudes. but you didn't stop picking on quonsar. well, now you have to suffer the consequences:

mc sweetie - quit picking on that guy
posted by mcsweetie at 1:24 PM on April 3, 2003


"MetaFilter - The Soundtrack"! Yaaaay!
posted by soundofsuburbia at 1:31 PM on April 3, 2003


Cool...free TV (again).
posted by i_cola at 1:43 PM on April 3, 2003


Is there something in the air? Seems like everything's out to get something else today.
posted by VulcanMike at 2:01 PM on April 3, 2003


I'm fairly certain that quonsar isn't a you or a me, but a script that generates random comments in threads. So his brilliance isn't what's being said, but how relevant some of the things appear to be. I haven't figured out how it works yet, but I'm really enjoying the process. It's just like how I used to get annoyed that every other video on MTV2 was Ja Rule until I started telling myself, "That differently-abled kid's done really well for himself." Now I can't get enough.
posted by yerfatma at 2:43 PM on April 3, 2003


mcsweetie, that was quite a moving performance though umm... what are we supposed to do about trolls like quonsor? I mean... they're fun to pick on and stuff. come on dad, why won't you let us have fun?
posted by mosch at 2:55 PM on April 3, 2003


Pretty good Debka rumor here.
posted by four panels at 3:04 PM on April 3, 2003


#!usr/bin/quonsar
set TROLL on;
post();
die("lickalickalickalicka");
posted by quonsar at 3:41 PM on April 3, 2003


>Metafilter: your personal colostomy bag

Close, but no cigar.

Metafilter: community colostomy bag.

Ewwww...

Postroad is a troll and a half and best ignored, but I was wondering if Mefi does or should have a domain blacklist for FPPs. I'm sure it would make our moderator's life easier if debka, theonion, ananova, and other frowned upon sites just wouldn't post or perhaps gave a friendly reminder like "Are you sure you want to post this link? It looks like it'll get deleted for this reason: Lousy source"

Blacklists are more common than one might think. I believe rotten.com cannot be linked from fark. Mozilla.org ignores any visitors from slashdot.

Sure no one likes blacklisting, but if every debka and ananova link is going to end up at metatalk, might as well toss in a warning or just block them.
posted by skallas at 3:43 PM on April 3, 2003


quonsar? a troll? PUHLEEEZ!
posted by mcsweetie at 3:45 PM on April 3, 2003


How did this mutate from a "let's abuse postroad" thread to a "let's abuse quonsar" thread? Mr. Q is pulling double duty for us on the MeFi Buffoon Squad since StanChin left town, and should be forgiven if the quality of his Buffoonery has declined. If it weren't for us pooping on threads, where would you monkeys find the poo to throw?

** ducks AND covers **
posted by wendell at 3:56 PM on April 3, 2003


also, if you click through his user page, be advised his blog is NSFW

NSFW, primarily on account of the fact that it's less of a blog and more of a list of a few links interspersed with boobie pictures. How old is this guy again?
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:56 PM on April 3, 2003


I envy quonsar's extraordinary ability to make good points in a most expressive and economical way, while simultaneously making us laugh. But I can live with it. His detractors here either don't accept his talent or need more s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g o-u-t. Then when someone is good enough to explain it to them, they're annoyed it was something so simple and commonsensical.

*adopts avuncular, standing by the fireside in dark blue dressing gown, snifter of brandy and pipe in hand*

Perhaps quonsar's deep metaphysical plea here may be better understood by a less sophisticated audience by referring to the words of one of those so-called pop songs so much in vogue nowadays; The Pretenders' "Stop Your Sobbing":

It is time for you to stop all of your sobbing. Yes it's time for you to stop all of your sobbing.
There's one thing you gotta do to make me still want you, gotta stop sobbing.
Yeah, yeah, stop it, stop it.

It is time for you to laugh instead of crying. Yes, it's time for you to laugh so keep on trying.
There's one thing you gotta do to make me still want you, gotta stop sobbing now.
Yeah, yeah, stop it, stop it.

Each little tear that falls from your eyes makes, makes me want
to take you in my arms and tell you to stop all your sobbing.

There's one thing you gotta do to make me still want you
and there's one thing you gotta know to make me want you so.
gotta stop sobbing, now, yeah, yeah, stop it, stop it,
gotta stop sobbing, now, yeah, yeah, gotta stop sobbing, don’t weep, don’t weep…

posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:03 PM on April 3, 2003


Except that bit about our little tears making quonsar want to take us in his arms, of course. ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:05 PM on April 3, 2003


Though even that, given his recently exposed perversity, may yet prove to be quite true.

*runs*
posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:06 PM on April 3, 2003


What.
The.
Fuck.
PORTUGAL?
posted by Pretty_Generic at 5:06 PM on April 3, 2003


since StanChin left town

Stan left?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:08 PM on April 3, 2003


Oh, yeah, right. Sorry.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 5:09 PM on April 3, 2003


Metafilter: Global thumbnail psychoanalysis
posted by clavdivs at 5:17 PM on April 3, 2003


it's less of a blog and more of a list of a few links interspersed with boobie pictures

You gotta give him credit for originality: most blogs come across as the height of self-importance. Postroad actually stops during his masturbatory travels of the Internet, thinks, "People should see this" and posts it to his own blog. That's amazing. I would have thought hair would grow on the back of one's hands.
posted by yerfatma at 5:27 PM on April 3, 2003


How old is this guy again?

Funny you should ask. He's mentioned in a dozen or so threads that he's over 70. And a bad typist. And speller.
posted by dhoyt at 5:37 PM on April 3, 2003


Yep, he's mentioned that here and here. And sure he's been to MetaTalk, he just doesn't comment. He cares not about you young whippersnappers, he's got more important things to do.

Like find pictures of naked chicks. Lots and lots of pictures of naked chicks. It takes a lot of time to find all of those pictures of naked chicks.
posted by iconomy at 5:56 PM on April 3, 2003


and stopping the war. ya know, in between the chicks.
posted by quonsar at 5:59 PM on April 3, 2003


I wonder if this is Postroad. The film title fits the blog postings.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:05 PM on April 3, 2003


I think he's onto something.
posted by iconomy at 6:08 PM on April 3, 2003


Fred Lapides composed for Attack of the Killer Bimbos (1988) with Nick Cassavetes
Nick Cassavetes was in Face/Off (1997) with Nicolas Cage
Nicolas Cage was in Valley Girl (1983) with Colleen Camp
Colleen Camp was in Trapped (2002) with Kevin Bacon
posted by PrinceValium at 6:13 PM on April 3, 2003


*putting on his deer-stalker hat, preparing for a ten-pipe problem*

I remember Postroad making some pretty acute comments on literature and education. Could he be an academic? Did he, by any chance, co-edit this book? The plot thickens!

Next up: Who is...........?
posted by MiguelCardoso at 6:18 PM on April 3, 2003


MRS. HUDSON
posted by clavdivs at 6:44 PM on April 3, 2003


Should we really go looking for his info?

This is making me kinda nervous.
posted by Yelling At Nothing at 6:56 PM on April 3, 2003


MoJo gone rouge?
posted by clavdivs at 6:59 PM on April 3, 2003


There are precious few boobie pictures in that book, Migs. I vote nay.
posted by adamgreenfield at 7:47 PM on April 3, 2003


That would be the perfect background color. To distinguish it from yellow journalism (or even blue and yellow journalism).

Or were you thinking of metafilter gone Rogue?


posted by weston at 7:48 PM on April 3, 2003


Should we really go looking for his info?

This is making me kinda nervous.


I dislike it thoroughly. Let's stop now.
posted by hama7 at 8:07 PM on April 3, 2003


Oh come on - we were rescuing good old Postroad's reputation. He came into this thread a boobie-worshipping crusty old rightwing nutjob and is now emerging as a classical scholar with an interesting sideline as a composer for obscure B-movies. In fact, I'm working on his reputation for intolerance as we speak.

[it was only a bit of fun! And I like Postroad a lot, for the record.]
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:16 PM on April 3, 2003


As a fellow boobie-worshipping crusty old rightwing nutjob, I know it was just meant in fun, but it feels slightly intrusive, even though I know it's public information.

Come to think of it, why don't we invite him over for his first few comments on MetaTalk, I'm sure he'd gladly set the record straight!
posted by hama7 at 9:15 PM on April 3, 2003


yeah, sorry I mentioned the imdb thing. I thought it tied into his blog a little, but it was a joke, not the spanish inquisition.

Who here likes pancakes?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:24 PM on April 3, 2003


Who here likes pancakes?

Oh good lord. They've assimilated the captain. We're FUCKED.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 10:04 PM on April 3, 2003


That's it, man! Game over, man! Game over!

(I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:26 PM on April 3, 2003




So, these pancakes, do they *OW*

Who threw that?
posted by dg at 10:52 PM on April 3, 2003


Nice to see Matt in a lighter vein. Must be boring to have to be the voice of reason all the time and to keep this boyzone in order.

Yeah! foodfight!
posted by Tarrama at 10:57 PM on April 3, 2003


Just don't throw the pancakes.
posted by cohappy at 2:08 AM on April 4, 2003


Stan left???

Is he coming back? He's funny.
posted by squealy at 2:27 AM on April 4, 2003


Yeah, I hate opportunists who use MeFi as a launching pad for their subsequent sorry little blogettini!*

*from the book "Taunt Twice If You Want Your Man Back!"
posted by MiguelCardoso at 4:44 AM on April 4, 2003


Postroad is a great guy. I enjoy reading his posts.
posted by Stumpy McGee at 4:53 AM on April 4, 2003


Oh, and donkeyschlong needs to shut the f*ck up.
posted by Stumpy McGee at 5:02 AM on April 4, 2003


Stan, however, wasn't all that funny anyway.

* dons big faux-Asian buck teeth, honks Harpo horn twice *
posted by yhbc at 6:30 AM on April 4, 2003


I don't understand a bit of any of this.

It takes a village to raise a bandwidth.
posted by konolia at 7:38 AM on April 4, 2003


Is it possible that Matt's sold his username?
posted by Pretty_Generic at 10:14 AM on April 4, 2003


Is it possible that Matt's sold his username?

I've been feeling out of sorts lately, but I haven't gone that far yet.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:18 AM on April 4, 2003


I for one welcome our new pancake referencing Mefi over... OW!
posted by jokeefe at 11:37 AM on April 4, 2003


A sense a new meme coming—OW!
posted by Yelling At Nothing at 2:36 PM on April 4, 2003


"OW! Who threw that?" is the new pancake-overlord-vibrating.... OW!
posted by wendell at 3:49 PM on April 4, 2003


Come on, people. Duck!
posted by konolia at 4:50 PM on April 4, 2003


Wabbit!
posted by adamgreenfield at 6:51 AM on April 5, 2003


Ow is the new Whee!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 11:53 PM on April 5, 2003


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