Lofi for Metatalk? August 5, 2003 5:40 AM   Subscribe

Is there an equivalent of lofi.mefi for metatalk? Miguel's rambling novel-writing-question seems to have been canned, and I want to see a) What Matt said about it, and b) what all the snippy comments after mine looked like. How about it?
posted by bonaldi to Feature Requests at 5:40 AM (69 comments total)

Yeah, I missed it too. I'm still sulking.
posted by widdershins at 6:12 AM on August 5, 2003


There is no "lofi" MetaTalk.

Sorry, pal.
posted by rocketman at 6:16 AM on August 5, 2003


I prefer being able to forget that Miguel thread ever existed. Thanks for jogging my memory.
posted by Space Coyote at 6:21 AM on August 5, 2003


Count me amongst the sulkers. Damn stupid time zones.
posted by dg at 6:29 AM on August 5, 2003


bonaldi,

next time (it'll happen again, sadly) you just need to save the thread if you find it funny/sad/scary/all of the above.

MetaTalk deletion means that it will be impossible to reload the thread
posted by matteo at 6:43 AM on August 5, 2003


This thread should get canned, but be referenced in another. The thrill of thread envy will grow with each remove.
posted by liam at 6:45 AM on August 5, 2003


"Hey, Matt deleted a thread because it was bad for Metafilter, and should be removed to prevent any interest in promoting or supporting the idea that writing such things should be endorsed. Why isn't is saved somewhere for me to look at and all of us to link to forever?"

Sorry to be snarky, but I'm the exact opposite here. Matt deletes threads for a reason; personally I'd love to see a certain limit on Mefi threads (since they seem to be referenced temporarily in adjacent threads and MeTa) before they get expunged forever as well.

I'm not trying to be nasty about it, just that it sort of questions the point of deleting threads in the first place every time you see a link to a deleted one with a comment along the lines of "hey, remember that thread? You know, the one that sucked? That Matt didn't want staining his website anymore? Let's all glorify it!"
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 7:02 AM on August 5, 2003


Give me a break, XQ. As Rory so eloquently said, MetaFilter is made up of actual people, and some of us enjoy doomed meltdown threads, even though Matt doesn't like them. Yes, he deleted it, and we all understand why. Nevertheless, some of us would like to have a record of it to chuckle over. Is that so terrible? Sheesh.
posted by languagehat at 7:27 AM on August 5, 2003


I understand that, languagehat. But since Matt doesn't like them, he has the right to get rid of them, and much as I also enjoy contributing to lost/doomed threads now and then, when Matt deletes it I don't complain "hey, why did you get rid of that thread? It was doomed for deletion!"
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 7:38 AM on August 5, 2003


A Miguel thread got canned?

FUCKING HELL ! The terrorists aint winnin' after all.
posted by Frasermoo at 7:48 AM on August 5, 2003


I understand that, languagehat. But since Matt doesn't like them, he has the right to get rid of them, and much as I also enjoy contributing to lost/doomed threads now and then, when Matt deletes it I don't complain "hey, why did you get rid of that thread? It was doomed for deletion!"

So XQ, can you tell just by the taste what Matt had for lunch yesterday?

Seriously though, I do agree, if I was running a website I wouldn't tolerate much crap, especially not keep it around so the fool who did it can look at it later while I pay for the hosting.
posted by Space Coyote at 7:54 AM on August 5, 2003


So XQ, can you tell just by the taste what Matt had for lunch yesterday?

Huh? The closest I can figure here is that you're suggesting I'm sucking up to Matt by... saying what I think should be changed about Metafilter... umm... again, huh? Or did I miss some joke about a previously-deleted thread involving fecal consumption of some sort?
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 8:01 AM on August 5, 2003


Give me a break, XQ. As Rory so eloquently said, MetaFilter is made up of actual people, and some of us enjoy doomed meltdown threads, even though Matt doesn't like them. Yes, he deleted it, and we all understand why. Nevertheless, some of us would like to have a record of it to chuckle over. Is that so terrible? Sheesh.

It would encourage others to act in a like manner in order to have their bad [good?] threads immortalized for all to see--forever.
posted by The God Complex at 8:18 AM on August 5, 2003


"it's matt's site and he can do whatever he blah blah"

We knew that already. Anyone who repeats this should expect to be called an apple-polisher.

And I still think that thread should have been deleted and never spoken of again.
posted by Space Coyote at 8:49 AM on August 5, 2003


And I still think that thread should have been deleted and never spoken of again.

:) shoo wee. What happened? Did Miguel confess his undying love for Matt while in a state of intoxication?
posted by carfilhiot at 9:07 AM on August 5, 2003


Can we get a FAQ for questions that have been asked a million times in MeTa, perhaps?
posted by angry modem at 9:29 AM on August 5, 2003


"Can we get a FAQ......"

There's a link on the main MetaFilter menu that will take you to the good stuff.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:12 AM on August 5, 2003


The point, surely, is that putting the merits of reading deleted threads to one side for a moment, the ability is already there in mefi. I just wondered if it was there for MetaTalk too.

It's a shame it isnt. Schadenfruede is not only hard to spell, it's fun too.
posted by bonaldi at 2:07 PM on August 5, 2003


matt, regardless of how he feels about the issue has another problem: the two "sections" of metafilter have diverged codewise over a few years - i think it would at this point be a daunting task with little or no payoff (from matts perspective) to attempt to bring all the widgets, ponies and geegaws he's wedged into the blue, into the gray.
posted by quonsar at 2:26 PM on August 5, 2003


ponies? ponies!?! There's ponies wedged into the blue and you guys didn't tell me?! Oh, man, you all suck!...
posted by JollyWanker at 2:41 PM on August 5, 2003


So what was the thread about?
posted by feelinglistless at 3:00 PM on August 5, 2003


So, uh... Matt can do whatever he wants with his site. We can complain but it ain't gonna make a bit of difference. There still isn't a pony in my driveway and this question has only been asked 999,999 times.

Now, let's get to what I care about. Would somebody just tell me what happened in the Migs thread? Feel free to copy and paste.
posted by cedar at 3:08 PM on August 5, 2003


migs got beat on. migs got defended. someone said "autofellatic". quonsar showed off his furry barnacle encrusted buttcrack. migs got beat on some more. what's to tell?
posted by quonsar at 3:13 PM on August 5, 2003


So, what was the original subject of the thread?

Writing books? That doesn't seem so controversial...
posted by bshort at 3:30 PM on August 5, 2003


The Post, As I Remember It:

"It was bound to happen. I am writing a novel wherein a MeFi member is momentarily challenged over his attitude towards women. His basic character template is stereotypical American leftist, but he has some custom features: He is from San Francisco and/or Vancouver, he is reassuringly gay, he is a hard worker, he is alone by choice, he is snide when appropriate, and he wears a remastered Van Halen CD as an earring. Which member fits this profile? I need to flesh out this thinly-drawn little dud(e), and I would appreciate y'alls' help."

Anyone have anything to add? Rewrites? Edits?
posted by Opus Dark at 3:49 PM on August 5, 2003


"what all the snippy comments after mine looked like":
It was the best of memes. It was the worst of memes.
Then I indicated that Miguel's stereotype insulted men and that he should include a stripper. ;-P
posted by mischief at 4:04 PM on August 5, 2003


stereotypical American leftist, but he has some custom features That statement is funny in itself.
posted by thomcatspike at 4:04 PM on August 5, 2003


opus dark has paraphrased the post very well. that about sums it up!
posted by quonsar at 4:10 PM on August 5, 2003


Opus Dark, you have a positively elephantine memory!

Add: "He is poor, but by choice, not by circumstance. He is a Jew, but also an atheist." There was something about him being 'too clever by half' in there too.
posted by iconomy at 4:23 PM on August 5, 2003


If Miguel truly said "y'all" the thread NEEDED killin'. T'ain't natural.
posted by konolia at 4:25 PM on August 5, 2003


I dunno if the CD earring would work in San Fransisco; it wouldn't in Vancouver. And of course he couldn't be a stereotypical American leftist, unless it's Vancouver Warshington.
posted by timeistight at 4:27 PM on August 5, 2003


Damn, iconomy - very good! My memory has been jogged - I hereby notarize your additions!
posted by Opus Dark at 4:40 PM on August 5, 2003


And thus we see the strange power of Miguel. Even after his thread is deleted, it is slowly recreating itself before our very eyes.

*rubs hands, awaits flames, explosions, possible meltdown*
posted by languagehat at 5:07 PM on August 5, 2003


You know, he really shouldn't have bothered with an anti-feminist rant - he could just have got the character to post to MeTa about, ooh, taking a MeFi-related picture or some such. That would have wound everybody up into a beatdown
posted by bonaldi at 5:29 PM on August 5, 2003


*cries*

it's like Groundhog Day, with Miguel in the Bill Murray role -- and without the big hamster thing

*cue Sonny and Cher*

Jesus Christ
posted by matteo at 5:50 PM on August 5, 2003


The Recrudescence! A halo begirds this holy place. The scriveners tremble. Autofellaticus, we await thee!
posted by Opus Dark at 6:09 PM on August 5, 2003


This is beginning to scare me. And I still don't understand the question.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:28 PM on August 5, 2003


The question is easy to understand, it is the answers that scare me.
posted by dg at 6:39 PM on August 5, 2003


I think the answer is easy. Miguel needs his own weblog.
posted by crunchland at 8:53 PM on August 5, 2003


So is Miguel in exile because of this infamous thread?
posted by bshort at 9:28 PM on August 5, 2003


I sure hope so. He really deserves it.
posted by interrobang at 10:02 PM on August 5, 2003


hell hath no fury greater than a nose tweaked.
posted by quonsar at 10:41 PM on August 5, 2003


There's a link on the main MetaFilter menu that will take you to the good stuff.

I'm well aware of that, but I noticed before that there was a shortage of MeTa topics. Plus, the thing is blue.
posted by angry modem at 7:47 AM on August 6, 2003


I'm really sorry I posted that. Sorry, Matt and everyone else. It was pure self-indulgence. I'm in the middle of a novel where a MetaFilter user is a minor character and I was carried away. Just like one of those poor creatures asking for help with their homework.

I apologize sincerely. I know I've done it before but I still hope I won't do it again.

*hangs head in corner*
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:12 AM on August 6, 2003


As penance you must start posting in English on Pastilhas (or at least translate a few choice entrees from the archives).
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 9:28 AM on August 6, 2003


As a sign of repentance, I shan't follow my evil devil's advice - you know the little cartoon guy on my left shoulder, with the quonsar's face of bonhomie and the wonderchicken's lithe body - to correct Opus Dark's hilarious recollection of my post, thereby reopening the justly deleted thread and garnering the very responses of "the typical MeFi user" I craved for my romance.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:33 AM on August 6, 2003


"I apologize sincerely."

There is no need. We all have our MeFi demons to bear. Mine is a spastic and mordant demon. Yours is a pedantic, donnish demon.

Long ago I decided that as worthless and boring as I was, many people actually found entertainment in my follies and stupidity. You should learn this as well. There is no need to apologize. Your pure self-indulgence is a source of mirth and merriment. Your misadventures are legion and legend. Your articulate disregard for protocol is what makes MetaTalk....... well........ whatever it i
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:36 AM on August 6, 2003


"is" ....... "whatever it is"
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:37 AM on August 6, 2003


Miguel, you're using typical MeFi responses in your novel about ... romance??? Revenge of the Nerds meets Dr. Zhivago?
posted by widdershins at 9:39 AM on August 6, 2003


As a sign of repentance, I shan't follow my evil devil's advice[…] to correct Opus Dark's hilarious recollection of my post

Maybe you could post it somewhere else?
posted by timeistight at 9:45 AM on August 6, 2003


Miguel, no need to apologize at all. Say, have I told you about this novel I'm writing, "Momentarily Challenged, Reassuringly Gay"? One of the minor characters happens to be a MeFi user. Any suggestions?
posted by 111 at 1:53 PM on August 6, 2003


I think for penance Miguel should provide for every mefite a copy of said book-translated into English.

And autographed, too.
posted by konolia at 2:47 PM on August 6, 2003


i second translated miguel books.
posted by goneill at 2:58 PM on August 6, 2003


111 - so it's going to be an autobiography?
posted by bshort at 3:02 PM on August 6, 2003


I think for penance Miguel should provide for every mefite a copy of said book-translated into English.

And autographed, too.


Uh, I can save you a little postage and hand cramp over here. Who says I am not a peach?
posted by thirteen at 3:13 PM on August 6, 2003


bshort, yeah. The gay minor character will be named Bryan Brief-- a thinly veiled depiction of a certain MeFi user.
posted by 111 at 3:18 PM on August 6, 2003


Say, have I told you about this novel I'm writing, "Momentarily Challenged, Reassuringly Gay"?

I'm surprised, 111 - from you I expected "Reassuringly Challenged, Momentarily Gay".
posted by Opus Dark at 3:18 PM on August 6, 2003


Opus, no, but I did consider writing an expose called "Gaily Challenged" based on some of the responses I found in the Bush/gay union thread.
posted by 111 at 3:33 PM on August 6, 2003


111 - so it's going to be an autobiography?

The gay minor character will be named Bryan Brief-- a thinly veiled depiction of a certain MeFi user.


d00d! Did you just call each other gay? That's fucking awesome! By the way, did you hear? It's Pizza day in the cafeteria! Save me a seat, homo!
posted by Ufez Jones at 3:47 PM on August 6, 2003


What room is the political club meeting in?
posted by timeistight at 3:55 PM on August 6, 2003


What room is the political club meeting in?

Threads 27515, 27519, 27542-27563 and 27569.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 4:42 PM on August 6, 2003


111: feeling mighty defensive, are we?

**strokes chin**

**arches eyebrow**
posted by bshort at 4:56 PM on August 6, 2003


...mmmmm.... oh yeah... a little faster..
posted by Stan Chin at 4:58 PM on August 6, 2003


Say, have I told you about this novel I'm writing, "Momentarily Challenged, Reassuringly Gay"? One of the minor characters happens to be a MeFi user. Any suggestions?

ayup.
posted by quonsar at 5:11 PM on August 6, 2003


: >

*sodomizes quonsar, smiling and laughing, while videotaping for 111's solitary pleasure later*
posted by amberglow at 5:24 PM on August 6, 2003


*realizes q meant yelling at nothing, so invites him in for sloppy seconds*
posted by amberglow at 5:42 PM on August 6, 2003


those barnacle cuts are gonna leave nasty scars.
posted by quonsar at 5:43 PM on August 6, 2003


wow. who knew all the hot action was in the lofi.meta thread? Pass the popcorn.
posted by taz at 11:21 PM on August 6, 2003


111: I know a certain metafilter member personally and I would love to help you with your novel.

You really are my favorite Metafiler member as of late -- with your dry wit and your insight (not to mention your ability to be so graceful in the face of gentle ribbing), you are always there to add a comment that makes a thread better. Thanks!
posted by zpousman at 5:44 PM on August 9, 2003


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