Wasting resources is not a good way to hate on MS September 28, 2004 8:43 PM   Subscribe

I have no love for Microsoft but this FPP only encourages mean-spirited and dishonest behavior.
posted by b1tr0t to Etiquette/Policy at 8:43 PM (32 comments total)

...only encourages mean-spirited and dishonest behavior.

wait...there are other types of behavior?!

my world view has just been shattered.
posted by Stynxno at 8:45 PM on September 28, 2004


I *do* have love for Microsoft -- and wonder if the "prankster" who perpetrated this act could be charged with any kind of a crime -- mail fraud, perhaps?

Geez.
posted by davidmsc at 8:49 PM on September 28, 2004


daavidmsc: if you are a microsoft employee, or know one, I think you can email "abuse" or "security" internally and see a swift response. Email me for more information, as these details aren't really mefi-relevant.
posted by b1tr0t at 8:59 PM on September 28, 2004


as these details aren't really mefi-relevant.

Sure, narc.
posted by interrobang at 9:13 PM on September 28, 2004


Ooh, he called you a "narc". That means you're really uncool.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 9:31 PM on September 28, 2004


this FPP only encourages mean-spirited and dishonest behavior.

I thought we, har on teh intarweb, had decided that creating and advertising the means of rip-off (p2p, etc.) is ok, and its up to the individual not to do so. Indeed, if Microsoft had allowed p2p distribution of SP2, this wouldn't even be an issue.

The potential for this type of abuse is quite prevalent already: free trial subscription magazine inserts, AOL CDs, catalog requests, free trials, test drive offers, business reply by mail envelopes (fill them with pennies or rocks and company gets stuck with a several dollar mail-by-wieght bill), and on and on. Many corporations are just dying to give away free stuff, and the potential for abuse of that [ahem] magnanimity is always there. This is nothing new and posts of this nature doesn't make that abuse any more or less likely in my mind. Postworthy? maybe, maybe not. Callout worthy? I, personally, don't think so.
posted by ChasFile at 9:34 PM on September 28, 2004


Pretty stupid, too. If 2 minutes of your time is worth less than the cost of printing a CD, you're leading a pretty worthless life. I guarantee, furthermore, that your days will run out before you bankrupt M$, one CD-R at a time.

Worst, though, was the one about the Goatse floppies. What good could possibly come from posting that? I was pretty ashamed of Waxy.org and the other cool kids who encouraged everyone to go into Best Buy and put them in the PCs there. How stupid is that?
posted by scarabic at 9:37 PM on September 28, 2004


Oh for fuck sakes. Called into MetaTalk twice in one week? Do I get pie or something?

b1tr0t. I'm sure the fine people of MetaFilter can control themselves and if you would have bothered to read the rest of the post, MS fixed it. I hear Kerry ordered 2000 and had them sent to Bush. Happy now?

Un-fucking real.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 9:49 PM on September 28, 2004


If 2 minutes of your time is worth less than the cost of printing a CD, you're leading a pretty worthless life

at $1 a CD that's $30/hour. x40hr/week x 50wk/yr = $60,000/yr. You are therfore calling ALOT of people worthless, including the people that cook your food, mow your lawn, clean your shirts, make your clothes, clean your house, watch your kids, teach your kids, patrol your neighborhoods, fix your car, put out your fires, and fight your wars.

Fuck off.
posted by ChasFile at 9:51 PM on September 28, 2004


KevinSkomsvold: b1tr0t. I'm sure the fine people of MetaFilter can control themselves and if you would have bothered to read the rest of the post, MS fixed it.

Nice tone, sport. The nerve of b1tr0t not bothering to read the fourth page of a forum (not "the rest of the post") consisting largely of a bunch of wankers writing "I got ten! LOL!"
posted by trharlan at 10:00 PM on September 28, 2004


"Fuck off."

Yes, "fuck off", scarabic, because your comment amounted to a declaration of class warfare, and snobbery, and was deeply insensitive, insulting, and brought forth unpleasant childhood memories—and you obviously don't support the troops. All in all, I think "fuck off" is a mild rebuke, really. Now say you're sorry to ChasFile. C'mon. It's not so hard. Admit that you're a bad, bad, really bad man.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 10:01 PM on September 28, 2004


I think most people read that and thought "What a dumbass", not "Cool, I can screw Micro$oft". Your clicking finger is going to swell up to the size of a bannana and fall off way before you become even a rounding error on Microsoft's balance sheet. OTOH, I order a dozen or two every time MS offers a free CD like this because a lot of my clients are on dial-up connections, and they like having upgrade CDs, and I'm kinda annoyed that I'm probably going to be shut off now.

On preview: ChasFile, 1) Printing CDs in mass quantities actually costs ~$.05 per CD not $1 and 2) You're not getting paid that money; you're just costing people other people it.
posted by boaz at 10:03 PM on September 28, 2004


Yes, tharlan (can I call you "sport" too? It sounds sooo sexy!). The nerve. Yeah, up mine for expecting someone to read the comments in a thread (NOT the forum). Of course, my post was part of a larger, more devious plot to have more jobs shipped overseas and bring MS to it's knees with the help of a few unsuspecting MF members.

On the other hand, I could have posted it because I thought it was relatively interesting that a corporation of MS's caliber allowed such a peculiar thing to fester for a couple of weeks.

Nah.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:51 PM on September 28, 2004


Well, his post was made 13 minutes before you noted (in the thread) that the problem had been corrected by Microsoft.

So perhaps you can fault b1tr0t for lacking ESP, as well...
posted by trharlan at 10:55 PM on September 28, 2004


jeez, people need to chill out. A "fuck off" over a throwaway comment about the work required of clicking?

It's a pretty lame idea, and hating microsoft is so 1998, but I believe most people here won't do it.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:02 PM on September 28, 2004


I think it's a mildly amusing software bug. The only mean-spiritedness I saw in the thread was someone's unkind depiction of the poster as a "fucktard."
posted by inksyndicate at 11:04 PM on September 28, 2004


All the strange sharpness today? Its all about the full moon. I've been on edge all friggin' day!
posted by fenriq at 11:06 PM on September 28, 2004


Been solved anyway.
posted by fenriq at 11:08 PM on September 28, 2004


Loving companies is a little odd. But then, so's hating them, I guess. We all have our quirks.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:10 PM on September 28, 2004


ChasFile! I'm sorry! I value human life! I do! I want you on that wall! I need you on that wall! I need you to put mustard on my burger! Pleeeease! I can handle the truth!

oh man, I've had a lousy day but that gave me a good chuckle

[fucks off and goes to bed]
posted by scarabic at 11:16 PM on September 28, 2004


All the strange sharpness today? Its all about the full moon. I've been on edge all friggin' day!

*deep breath*

This felt like bukakke with molten lead. The burns are healing nicely.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 11:18 PM on September 28, 2004


Postworthy? maybe, maybe not. Callout worthy? I, personally, don't think so.

Incidentally, I'd agree with this. My flapping my gums in someone else's MeTa callout doesn't necessarily mean I think it needed to be made.
posted by scarabic at 11:19 PM on September 28, 2004


uh, personally, I liked the post. plus there's a 10 cd limit, so it's not like it's going to inspire copycatting.
posted by angry modem at 2:28 AM on September 29, 2004


"I have no love for Microsoft but this FPP only encourages mean-spirited and dishonest behaviour."

See - this is what I don't get about the Metafilter community. They confuse a link to a site with negative, objectionable or racist subject matter as a negative, objectionable or racist post. As I said in that particular thread, I thought ordering that many free discs was an incredibly lame thing to do. That doesn't mean that a link to it is unwarranted. KevinSkomsvold is absolutely correct when he says the MetaFilter community should be big enough and ugly enough to work out for themselves whether this is a smart thing to do or not - although I disagree with him entirely when it comes to the link's subject matter.

I think it's time to stop reflecting the failings of the community upon the original poster, and to aim higher with our discourse rather than lower.

It reminds me of a recent thread where, because I defended right-wing politician’s freedom to not be fired on the basis of his private life, I was pegged as agreeing with the chap's views and politics.

For the love of God, can we make a little room for nuance, please?
posted by nthdegx at 3:14 AM on September 29, 2004


And I can promise you I hadn't read Matt's comment in a previous thread before I called for some nuance. Really, though - can we?
posted by nthdegx at 3:29 AM on September 29, 2004


The Stupid has been spreading like alien fungus for a long, long time. It's a little late for Defenders of the Nuanced to do much more than dig the trenches, secure the perimeter, hunker down with some lovely cheese and crackers, and hope for the best, I think.

As for me: thank goodness I ain't all that clever. I fits right in at the New Metafilter, motherfucktards!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:51 AM on September 29, 2004


Stav, that's a good strategy, but only really effective when we throw the victims of The Stupid over the walls and into the enemy trenches. Hopefully, they'll reach critical mass, implode and make it safe to leave the house again.

Whaddya mean, I didn't quite grok your comment...? Hey! Put me down, you overgrown super-rooster!
posted by dash_slot- at 8:34 AM on September 29, 2004


This felt like bukakke with molten lead.

Any idea where I can get a video of that?
posted by pardonyou? at 12:25 PM on September 29, 2004


at $1 a CD that's $30/hour. x40hr/week x 50wk/yr = $60,000/yr. You are therfore calling ALOT of people worthless,
Bet Microsoft spends less than 20 cents for each CD duplicated w/ art. Large quantity CD duplication is fairly cheap.
posted by thomcatspike at 1:38 PM on September 29, 2004


bukakke with molten lead

that would hurt us vastly more than you
posted by scarabic at 6:01 PM on September 29, 2004


What about molten lead bukak-karaoke in the park, drowning out the drum circle and the guitar strummers?
posted by squirrel at 1:28 AM on September 30, 2004


That would be a blessing.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:36 AM on September 30, 2004


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