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What other people think of Metafilter.
posted by drezdn to MetaFilter-Related at 9:07 AM (94 comments total)

I think it's important for people to step back and see what all the political fighting and snarky comments look like to non members.
posted by drezdn at 9:10 AM on November 18, 2004


YOU THINK WRONG MOTHERFUCKER. Fucking Nader-voting fuck.

Fuck off.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 9:12 AM on November 18, 2004


What other people think of the TimeCube.
posted by COBRA! at 9:13 AM on November 18, 2004



I joined because primarily because of the Ask Metafilter section. All my FPPs and double posts will be restricted to here. Consider yourselves lucky.

posted by pyrrthon1 at 01:02PM UTC on November 18


Great. The more questions posed, the less likely they are to get several helpful responses.
posted by Evstar at 9:27 AM on November 18, 2004


Those MoFites are dorks. They're way to into that whole monkey thing. I think they're all furries or something.

And I hate how they always do that little third-person action thing inbetween asterisks. Grow up.
posted by keswick at 9:27 AM on November 18, 2004


I just went over there and signed up. Have to balance the universe and all that.

But NOT as Konolia.
posted by konolia at 9:37 AM on November 18, 2004


But NOT as Konolia.

Gasp!
posted by me3dia at 9:41 AM on November 18, 2004


Oh come on. There are enough internets for all of us. Besides, they have sexy girl geeks over there, that wear glasses just like the ones that Tina Fey has. That has to count for something.

Wake me up when the inter-species sex starts.
posted by iconomy at 9:46 AM on November 18, 2004


But NOT as Konolia
Lord save us all, bunnyfire is back.
posted by FreezBoy at 9:48 AM on November 18, 2004


what it looks like to non-members is that their current online community seems more like what they thought metafilter would be when they first tried joining. monkeyfilter started out as sort of a mefi-in-waiting, for folks to hone their posting skills until matt opened the floodgates. but it didn't stay that way. monkeyfilter is a smaller community than metafilter, but it isn't a metafilter wanna-be and hasn't been for a long time. the different group of people who post there give it a different vibe than mefi. actually, many mefites are also posting to mofi, and a lot of those who started on mofi are posting here. i started there, joined here during the Great New User No-Limit Scripting Screw-Up earlier this year. i like both sites for different reasons. there remain those who are firmly entrenched in one or the other and feel protective enough of their home turf that they display their loyalty with snarky comments like "i wouldn't join mefi if you paid me" or "those mofites are dorks". neither sort of comment is in the least productive but both make you feel more a member of your current clique.

personally, i'm glad to be involved in both. you who don't read mofi might be surprised at the number of mefi FPPs i first saw in the lavendar - mofites are finding some good links out there sometimes well before they hit the blue. be happy that some there want to contribute here, as it might give mefi a chance to stop being the "All PoliticsFilter, All The Time" thing it seems to have turned into over the last few years.

fresh blood! good for everyone.
posted by caution live frogs at 9:49 AM on November 18, 2004


and we are supposed to care... why exactly?
a community created exactly for people locked-out of MetaFilter is hardly made of fair observers.
now that their members can join here, MonkeyFilter will become even less populated.
it's a small community there, no wonder people are supposedly nicer to each other. I'm sure that in Bumfuck, Indiana, pop 310, people are nicer to each other than in New York
so what?
posted by matteo at 9:50 AM on November 18, 2004


I'm a monkey come over.

Mainly because every once in a while, I read a thread, and feel the need to answer a question that's posed, either in the Blue, or AskMe, and have been frustrated by not being able to do so.

But I'm sorry to say it, the MonkeyHaus still gets the better posts, and seems to have the better community nowadays. Here's hoping the new blood helps here!
posted by TTIKTDA at 9:52 AM on November 18, 2004


If you're looking for good links, sensible conversation and a lack of jRun errors, then Monkeyfilter is definitely better than MeFi. If however, you're looking for a fight ...
posted by mathovvie at 9:56 AM on November 18, 2004


I think this is kind of interesting to read through, there are some people that have been harboring some pretty seriously hurt feelings that they couldn't get in here when they wanted to.

I'm looking forward to having new blood to spice things up again (in a good way!).

Thanks for the post, drezdn!
posted by fenriq at 9:57 AM on November 18, 2004


They're not all "other people."
posted by scarabic at 9:58 AM on November 18, 2004


Mathovvie, clever nick, I'm curious to see if you'll keep it. You had me for a minute.
posted by fenriq at 10:00 AM on November 18, 2004


rnathowie looks better than mathovvie, at least with my chosen font size. (what size that is, I have no idea)
posted by iconomy at 10:02 AM on November 18, 2004


I'm curious too.
posted by mathovvie at 10:04 AM on November 18, 2004


matteo, as a Hoosier, I have to say, don't you mean Vafanculo, Italy?

/look, we're fighting

(I am teasing, only teasing)
posted by mwhybark at 10:08 AM on November 18, 2004


Half the time the server's down over there and I tolerate it, but if I pay five bucks I'm gonna expect to be able to access the site any time I want. I'll not hear excuses. I'm a paid member, dammit, and I want respect. And I'll expect fresh-squeezed orange juice at 7 am. Sharp!

:-)
posted by SpaceCadet at 10:16 AM on November 18, 2004


Well, it wasn't hard to see that label coming for this site. And its not just localized to monkeyfilter either. There have been some working very hard everday for the last year or so trying to push Metafilter in a hardline direction. And it looks like they almost have won.

I am eternally hopeful the new people will be different and we can right the ship and bring it back to an interesting site.
posted by Seth at 10:20 AM on November 18, 2004


don't you mean Vafanculo, Italy?

no, the Italian equivalent of the much-used "Bumfuck, Indiana" is Canicattì, which is an actual place by the way.
also, don't mistake me for anti-Hoosier. I'm a Larry Bird fan, after all.

nitpick: a more precise spelling is "vaffanculo", two f's
posted by matteo at 10:21 AM on November 18, 2004


matteo - not so sure. some mefites (as i already said) have joined monkeyfilter today. because things over there are not mefi. that specifically seems to be the reason some people like it. myself included.

i don't think it's going away. far as i know, very few mofi users who were able to sneak in here the last time membership was open have stopped visiting the lavendar.

(see, the reason some folks live in small towns is because they like small towns, not because they couldn't afford a place in the city...)

on preview: seth, if you're looking for more friendly interactions then you want more mofites here. personally i hope it helps.
posted by caution live frogs at 10:21 AM on November 18, 2004


Hey matteo,

Don't be a prick.

Thx.
posted by kenko at 10:23 AM on November 18, 2004


Also, P_G, WTF?
posted by fenriq at 10:25 AM on November 18, 2004


I joined MoFi for no other reason that I could. I'm all about empowerment.

And monkeys. Mouth-watering monkeys.

But mostly empowerment.
posted by tommasz at 10:32 AM on November 18, 2004


I joined for the low, low APR.
posted by petebest at 10:37 AM on November 18, 2004


I joined MoFi a few weeks ago and am still waiting to become hot. I have my little glasses on and everything.
posted by whatnot at 10:41 AM on November 18, 2004


Metafilter: I wouldn't join if you paid me.
posted by o2b at 10:44 AM on November 18, 2004


Great. The more questions posed, the less likely they are to get several helpful responses.

I think (hope), Evstar, that the comment was in reference to answering questions, not asking more. I know as a new guy that this is an area I've been pretty interested in too: knowing the answer to a question but being unable to answer it is frustrating, and now that I'm a member, I can hopefully help out some folks with their questions.
posted by Bugbread at 10:46 AM on November 18, 2004


Horses for courses. MoFi may have started up as holding pattern for wannabe MeFites, but by now it's a different community in its own right, with a different tone and different obsessions and in-jokes and yadda yadda yadda.

I see no reason why any of that should change with our nice, shiny new sign-ups. Now anybody can go to MoFi for good-natured fun and quirky links, and go to MeFi for in-depth conversation, issue-focussed links and, er, macho posturing. Bonus!

*goes over to keswick, does a twee little dance, waves a banana at him*
posted by flashboy at 10:47 AM on November 18, 2004


I hope MoFi starts a thread about this thread. They could call it "Us looking at Them looking at Us looking at Them" and it'd be really really rad!

*tips his glasses down and raises his eyebrows at whatnot*

I don't remember seeing you around here before... hottie.
posted by papercake at 10:48 AM on November 18, 2004


Yes, well, of course, this is just the sort blinkered philistine pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome, spotty behinds squeezing blackheads, not caring a tinker's cuss about the struggling artist.

You excrement! You lousy, hypocritical, whining toadies with your lousy colour TV sets and your Tony Jacklin golf clubs and your bleeding MetaFilter handshakes! You wouldn't let me join, would you, you blackballing bastards! Well I wouldn't become a MeFi'er now if you went down on your lousy, stinking, purulent knees and begged me!!
posted by petebest at 10:49 AM on November 18, 2004


Don't be a prick.

Thx.


so much for civility, I guess.
*snicker*
posted by matteo at 10:49 AM on November 18, 2004


Metafilter: Come for the in-depth conversation and issue-focussed links, stay for the macho posturing!
posted by tommasz at 10:53 AM on November 18, 2004


Heh. I'm still their villain. I'll check that thread again later to see if it devolves into one of their lame group-hug/flirt derails. I'm surprised that they can have a thread with 40 comments and it's still nearly on-topic.
posted by Mayor Curley at 10:53 AM on November 18, 2004


they have an unnecessary inferiority complex over there. i've been a member since it opened but every time i'd head over there they'd be whinging about mefi, so i gave up. it was fun at the beginning for a few weeks - they have some excellent qualities - but they let that so called red haired step child syndrome get in the way.

anyway, their 3 best members already joined mefi way back in april.

mathovvie

oh boy.
posted by t r a c y at 10:57 AM on November 18, 2004


Oh, and flashboy, welcome to your first day of high school all over again. Make sure your friends know how to open your locker before I stuff you in it.
posted by Mayor Curley at 10:58 AM on November 18, 2004


I like monkeyfilter, and if I could have figured out a way to funnel people from there to here for free, I would have done it long ago.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:59 AM on November 18, 2004 [1 favorite]


Ok...I did a post at monkeyfilter that has now become the topic of this post on metafilter... If I post here on metafilter now and go back to monkeyfilter and post about this post on the original post will I have created a cycle that will eventually result in some sort of cosmic disturbance? will it? huh?

nothing like a meaningless post to establish yourself as a new member of a community!
posted by HuronBob at 11:12 AM on November 18, 2004


I like monkeyfilter, and if I could have figured out a way to funnel people from there to here for free, I would have done it long ago.

You tell us now...
posted by kika at 11:13 AM on November 18, 2004


I joined monkeyfilter for the soul purpose of lording my MeFi account over them. Now a little joy has gone out of my life.

Ah well.
posted by stet at 11:21 AM on November 18, 2004


You kinda work hard at being MoFi's villain, dontya Mayor Curley? The "muahahaha" is implicit.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:44 AM on November 18, 2004


petebest, I love you already.

I have no major problems with MoFi. It sometimes seems to lack an edginess that MeFi has. Until, of course, they start talking about MeFi.

Oh, and the colour scheme gives me a headache. But that's it, I guess.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 11:46 AM on November 18, 2004


i've been a member since it opened but every time i'd head over there they'd be whinging about mefi, so i gave up.

You must not have visited very often. I can recall, in the six months or so that I've been there, a total of about six threads about MeFi. And in those threads, it was the same people whining, saying essentially the same thing each time. Yet, if you looked beyond those six threads, there were over 3000 other threads to look at.
posted by shawnj at 11:46 AM on November 18, 2004


they have an unnecessary inferiority complex over there.

MoFi = Canada
MeFi = U.S.

I have dual citizenship. Sometimes when I go over there, I think, "Can't we forget about Them and what They do for five minutes and just appreciate what we've got going here?"

Perhaps it's a holdover from waaaaay too many English classes devoted to the subject of Canada's cultural inferiority complex.
posted by orange swan at 11:46 AM on November 18, 2004


You can change the color scheme in the profile, DrJohnEvans in the profile under Style. There are currently nine to choose from.
posted by shawnj at 11:48 AM on November 18, 2004


E.B., I haven't exactly tied any of them to the railroad tracks. But that would be funny.
posted by Mayor Curley at 12:06 PM on November 18, 2004


I'm a member in both places. MoFi: like having a friendly discussion in your neighborhood bar; MeFi: like asking for Harley Zuck in a biker bar.
posted by joaquim at 12:10 PM on November 18, 2004


I'm with shawnj - anyone who thinks MoFi is all about whining about MeFi hasn't been actually looking at the site at all. And I'd like to know who the "3 best members from April" are. I think most MoFites these days would argue with your choices, given the good ones we still have there (and the fact that *lots* of us joined in April!)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Matt. (You did funnel lots of us by the way - broken script in April! Sorry...) The rest of you - I wonder if you're aware how many of us Monkeys have been walking amongst you for a while now. There are enough dual citizens that I think it's pretty rough to get all down on the other filter. MoFi started because people wanted to join MeFi, but now I like my two logins because they are different sites with different qualities and offerings. I don't see what it gets you to be bitching on MoFi, other than stooping to the immaturity of the posters there who have a beef with MeFi.
posted by livii at 12:11 PM on November 18, 2004


Those MoFites are assclowns.
posted by homunculus at 12:13 PM on November 18, 2004


We wore our backpacks over both shoulders first.
posted by yerfatma at 12:16 PM on November 18, 2004


I wonder if you're aware how many of us Monkeys Mefites have been walking amongst you for a while now. There are enough dual citizens that I think it's pretty rough to get all down on the other filter .... I like my two logins because they are different sites with different qualities and offerings. I don't see what it gets you to be bitching on MoFi Mefi, other than stooping to the immaturity of the posters there who have a beef with MeFi MoFi.

livii you just repeated everything i used to say about mefi over at mofi. tiresome isn't it...?

petebest, jb, and tracicle.
posted by t r a c y at 12:24 PM on November 18, 2004


Oh. Thanks, shawnj. I had no idea. I might do just that.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 12:32 PM on November 18, 2004


ooh! ooh! Can I play too?

*runs to go pick favorite MeFites over at MoFi*
posted by Kimberly at 1:01 PM on November 18, 2004


Honestly, I had an account over there only because I wanted to be chilling in the blue. It still feels a bit like MeFi Lite to me, just like any other *Filter. And let's not kid ourselves, those cunts will get into fights with you just as readily as any MeFi twat. It's not like a utopian commune or something. They're just more quirky. But honestly, if I hear more fucking whining about "political bickering" bringing the blue down, I'm going to pee in somebody's mouth. Honestly, don't fucking click on the thread if you don't like politics. Jesus Robotic Dancing Fairy Christ.

Fuck both the filters!

P.S. If anybody gets mad at me for this intentionally hyperbolic post, I'll start a Metametatalk thread about it, I swear to God.

P.P.S.P.S. I'm still pretty giddy to be here.
posted by Kleptophoria! at 1:11 PM on November 18, 2004


I joined because I'm a joiner.
posted by idest at 1:17 PM on November 18, 2004


Criticisms from Monkeyfilter would be fine in a pre-August First world, but we have seen the enemy and it's clear now that you're either with us or against us.
posted by Peter H at 1:22 PM on November 18, 2004


I am entertained. Monkeys are wonderful creatures. *group Hug* ;-)
posted by bratcat at 1:25 PM on November 18, 2004


Honestly, don't fucking click on the thread if you don't like politics. Jesus Robotic Dancing Fairy Christ.

Fuck both the filters!


*swoons, develops crush*
posted by t r a c y at 1:31 PM on November 18, 2004


*releases the doves*
posted by Kleptophoria! at 1:33 PM on November 18, 2004


t r a c y, I'll do that profile linky thing to you, if you do it to me.
posted by Kleptophoria! at 1:35 PM on November 18, 2004


They're just more quirky.

I don't see how that's possible.
posted by jonmc at 1:37 PM on November 18, 2004


*releases the doves*

bwah!

t r a c y, I'll do that profile linky thing to you, if you do it to me.

pervert. i'm giving matt an extra $5 for opening new sign ups !
posted by t r a c y at 1:42 PM on November 18, 2004


I don't like those Monkey dorks. I'm more of a Meta dork.
posted by jefbla at 2:05 PM on November 18, 2004


Oh, and flashboy, welcome to your first day of high school all over again. Make sure your friends know how to open your locker before I stuff you in it.
posted by Mayor Curley at 10:58 AM PST on November 18



Old man Curley, maybe you should stuff it.
posted by orange clock at 2:37 PM on November 18, 2004


By "quirky", perhaps I meant "cute". Or "lavendar". Damn, this word thing is hard.
posted by Kleptophoria! at 2:54 PM on November 18, 2004


But honestly, if I hear more fucking whining about "political bickering" bringing the blue down, I'm going to pee in somebody's mouth.

Kleptophoria!, I'm an old curmudgeon who still isn't sure about those uppity 14000+ kids, but you.. you I like. :)
posted by jess at 3:02 PM on November 18, 2004


petebest! didn't realize you were an april 2-er. which is weird.

so did you already sign up for three variations on petebest here already?
posted by caution live frogs at 3:21 PM on November 18, 2004


Old man Curley, maybe you should stuff it.

orange clock, you might finally be here, but your wit apparently didn't make the connecting flight.

(Seriously, you paid five bucks to say that? I'm not much for stereotypical trash talk, but your shit is indeed very weak. You could have spent that five dollars on Magic cards or a third of your Depakote co-pay.)
posted by Mayor Curley at 3:27 PM on November 18, 2004



I have dual citizenship. Sometimes when I go over there, I think, "Can't we forget about Them and what They do for five minutes and just appreciate what we've got going here?"


No. Because they're adversely ruining it. If you're talking about America ;)
posted by The God Complex at 3:32 PM on November 18, 2004


That was redundant. I'm off my game--distracted by the deluge of e-mails from new members...
posted by The God Complex at 3:50 PM on November 18, 2004


Mayor Curley, just because the Asshat Signup Sheet has been posted doesn't mean you should add your name to it.

You said something stupid and condescending to the monkeys a long time ago, and they called you on it, and now all sorts of grudges are held on both sides.

Don't you see that perpetuating the grudge is only going to create more grudges? If you are such a Big League Player, then be a man and lay off.
posted by onlyconnect at 3:56 PM on November 18, 2004


...and there aren't actually as many grudges as you might think. I mean, my inital comment over there was (I thought) a fairly clearly signalled joke, directed at the occasional bursts of anti-MeFi whining that really annoyed me on MoFi. I kind of assumed the Mayor's response was a joke as well. Maybe not. Hope it was though. I mean, the lockers in the internet are very small and musty, I'd hate to be stuck in one for the whole of lunchbreak.

Just sayin'.

posted by flashboy at 4:04 PM on November 18, 2004


If you are such a Big League Player, then be a man and lay off.
posted by onlyconnect at 3:56 PM PST on November 18


Give Curley a break, he still lives with his Mom.
posted by orange clock at 4:08 PM on November 18, 2004


Wow, well this part of the thread is depressing and stupid.
posted by Peter H at 4:12 PM on November 18, 2004


Give Curley a break, he still lives with his Mom.
posted by orange clock

What's so good about an Ethiopian blowjob?
You know she'll swallow.
posted by orange clock

Why do childless urbanites get so enraged when someone tries to stop them from killing babies?
It's like no one else can have an opinion because they live in a shitty 400 square foot apt. in the East Village.
posted by orange clock


finally, new members, the saviors of MetaFilter.
a new beginning.
posted by matteo at 4:19 PM on November 18, 2004


You said something stupid and condescending to the monkeys a long time ago, and they called you on it, and now all sorts of grudges are held on both sides.

I said nothing to the monkeys. I don't have an account there. I said something teasing to wendell and all of a sudden I became the focal point of a group inferiority complex.

Give Curley a break, he still lives with his Mom.

You're awful. You're ideologically bereft enough to refer to abortion as the simplistic "killing babies" in another thread, and you're less witty than Witty.

I guess my crack about the Magic cards hit close to home, and you're trying to prove that I'm more loserish than thou. Guess what, Lame Avenger? You suck, and your generic insults prove it. Please, wait until tomorrow to reply to this. Sleep on it, and I'll be objective and tell you if you're funny, clever, or still just being a cock who cribs his insults from mid 90's sitcoms.
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:23 PM on November 18, 2004


I won a game of Magic once.

Anyway, I just wanted to say to those mefites that have joined in the last 48 hours that I've temporarily closed (!!!) memberships after an altercation with our and your favourite site, lgf. It's still possible to join but I haven't manually activated new accounts. Email me (tracyh at gmail) if you want the process speeded up in your individual case. Sorry.

Oh, and Mayor Curley, I think you've twirled all the wax off your moustache. But flash, I'll totally stuff your sandwiches through the ventholes so you can eat while you're in there.
posted by tracicle at 4:37 PM on November 18, 2004


You suck, and your generic insults prove it.
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:23 PM PST on November 18


If I was aware that you were so easily offended/a raving lunatic, I would have simply ignored you.

In the meantime, look at these nice watches.
posted by orange clock at 4:46 PM on November 18, 2004


ORANGE AND CURLEY! IN MY OFFICE - NOW!!!!

If you two don't call it off and chill out, give each other a handshake and offer a let-bygones-be-bygones, I'm going to personally track you both down and kill you by ripping your jaws off and stuffing them up your arses. GOT IT?

Now go make friends out in the school yard like good kids and if I have to call you in here again, you know what's going to happen.

*Glares and points at mouth in threatening manner*
posted by ashbury at 4:55 PM on November 18, 2004


orange clock - it's better to shake the hands of people you just paid to hang out with,
instead of shit on their lawn and throw punches. Just calm down, fella. We're friendly.
posted by Peter H at 5:01 PM on November 18, 2004


I said nothing to the monkeys. Here's what you said on MeFi:

I don't care if something was previously discussed on Monkeyfilter. I play in the big leagues, so I don't have time to follow Triple-A teams.

You think people who registered at a site because signups here were closed don't read here? Your remarks (monkeys sure would not have read them as "teasing") came through loud and clear. Just like you read their insults about you on MoFi.

Was that a slow day, or are [the monkeys] really so dull that a comment that I barely remember posting is generally worth a thread?

And so the tedious circle continues. Your insults here perpetuate it, even though they're funny.
posted by onlyconnect at 5:06 PM on November 18, 2004


Geee it's already looking like the new signups have never happened, with the arguing and all.

*sheds a single tear*
posted by tonelesscereal at 6:14 PM on November 18, 2004


If you two don't call it off and chill out, give each other a handshake and offer a let-bygones-be-bygones

"The situation you are about to see is real. The people are not actors, they are actual litigants and cases filed in a California municipal court. They have agreed to waive their right to trial and to have their disputes settled in our forum."

Actually, I think this all should be settled in a vicious Mefi-Mofi Halo clan match.
posted by yerfatma at 6:52 PM on November 18, 2004


I used to visit the monkeys once in a while, when I had the free time. They were quite amusing in a sunday-afternoon-at-the-zoo sort of way, but my god ever since Matt added Askme, I haven't had a moment to spare. I'm gone from Metatalk for 24 hours-- 24 hours! and look what happened:

"There have been 657 comments since your last visit"

I've stopped reading books. I've stopped watching TV. I've stopped going out. Looks like the next thing to go will be having sex. Dave's going to be so devastated.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:08 PM on November 18, 2004


Orange Clock,

I see from your profiles that you don't have your email address listed. How about listing your email address, so you and Mayor Curley can continue your discussion by email?
posted by Bugbread at 7:30 PM on November 18, 2004


And then post a digest here. Highlights, footnotes, references, al the "[sic]" we can stand . . .
posted by yerfatma at 7:55 PM on November 18, 2004


Should be "all the '[sic]'"; irinionic, huh?
posted by yerfatma at 7:56 PM on November 18, 2004


I anticipate many, many delicious anonymous ask metafilter questions, so in the end, this is a good thing.
posted by interrobang at 8:52 PM on November 18, 2004


I anticipate many, many delicious anonymous ask metafilter questions, so in the end, this is a good thing.

You mean like "Why does Mayor Curley hate me so much?"

That'll be fun.
posted by papercake at 8:59 PM on November 18, 2004


Pfft - seriously - No regular monkey is truly upset about The Hon. Curley's comments from anytime. It's all good. If'n you two wanna pissfight here, that's ok, but they's no worries.

*puts Mayor Curley patch on sleeve for next season*

*annoys keswick*
posted by petebest at 9:00 PM on November 18, 2004


What petebest said. The thin-skinned few whining about what the Mayor said about us are in no way representative of Monkeyfilter. There's coolness in both camps - and bitchiness, too.
posted by rocket88 at 9:11 PM on November 18, 2004


To borrow a good quote from a friend:
"You people need to suck each other off and deal."
posted by Ryvar at 5:18 AM on November 19, 2004


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