Watch your fucking language April 15, 2005 5:55 PM   Subscribe

Please leave the NSFW words [note: link NSFW... duh] inside a thread... and mark the thread NSFW. The F-word does not belong on the front page of MeFi.
posted by Doohickie to Etiquette/Policy at 5:55 PM (64 comments total)

I would just like to note that 'Fuck' has already been on the frontpage once this month, and twice last month, with seemingly no ill effects.
posted by Jairus at 6:02 PM on April 15, 2005


Well I'll be fucked. Most humble apologies for pulling that shit on the front page. I should have thought of the asshole employers with their bastard net filters that watch for every occurence of four letter words and send out motherfucking termination notices accordingly.

As Jairus has also noted...a quick search revealed close to a dozen fucks on the front page in the last year.

Hands up anyone who's joined the bread cues as a result.
posted by Jimbob at 6:05 PM on April 15, 2005


Oh pish, the internets are for grownups. If the word "fuck," rendered in plain text, it too far-fetched for your workplace or sensibilities than I would humbly suggest not surfing from work.
posted by stet at 6:06 PM on April 15, 2005


Just the f-word? What about "cocksucker?" Can we say "cocksucker?"

I mean, as long as we don't say something like, "Fuck that cocksucker."

I have a potty mouth.
posted by ColdChef at 6:07 PM on April 15, 2005


Jimbob is a jackass!! Pull the thread!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!
ahahahah! Yea, right.

A NSFW tag would be nice though.
posted by snsranch at 6:08 PM on April 15, 2005


I believe that, in this specific case, NSFW is implied.
posted by ColdChef at 6:11 PM on April 15, 2005


Oh, and just remember kids, cussing is neither "hip" nor clever.

I was thinking of putting a NSFW tag, actually snsranch...but I kind of figured (a) it's blaringly obvious what you're going to get if you visit the links (b) once you get to those sites, you still have to click to download an mp3. Its not like NSFW images that will get captured by the proxy server for later perusal by the boss. There's really no way anyone could "accidentally" listen to these tracks at work.
posted by Jimbob at 6:11 PM on April 15, 2005


Fuck. the. police.
posted by JohnR at 6:11 PM on April 15, 2005


The F-word does not belong on the front page of MeFi.

if not here than where? i realize you have good intentions, but metafilter is not a no-fuck zone. Generally it just isn't relevant to the wording of a good post---hence, it isn't used. When it relevant, i say, fuck away.
posted by th3ph17 at 6:18 PM on April 15, 2005


A NSFW tag would be nice though.

Then you also agree that the objectionable language should have been contained inside the thread (otherwise, why have the NSFW tag?)

I was thinking of putting a NSFW tag

But it kind of becomes irrelevant when the NSFW tag is on the same page where the NSFW language exists, doesn't it? NSFW tag is there to prevent a person from going to a page that might be objectionable. But if you put the language right on the front page, it's already too late.

I realize this isn't the first time the F-bomb has been dropped on the front page. But it's the first time I decided to complain about it.

Obviously, I don't think it's appropriate. Beyond that, I'm kinda curious as to how the rest of the community and #1 feel about the use of NSFW language on the front page. If no one else thinks it matters, I'll STFU.
posted by Doohickie at 6:18 PM on April 15, 2005


Personally, I don't give a fuck.
posted by trondant at 6:24 PM on April 15, 2005


Fuck the Metafilter Police.
posted by notsnot at 6:28 PM on April 15, 2005


NSFW language

This is the issue I take with your complaint. NSFW images - understandable. NSFW pages - understandable. But a single swear word, in context (ie. part of a song title)? Unless you work at a nunnery I fail to see how this could possibly be a problem "at work". Seriously. Unless you can show me some evidence that someone has actually been disciplined for visiting a page with a single occurrence of "fuck" on it, in which case, fair call. From my experience, at most workplaces you're more likely to get in trouble for wasting time at Metafilter, than for the occurrence of a single swear word.
posted by Jimbob at 6:33 PM on April 15, 2005


Today is Fuck You Friday.

Also, if you'd lose your miserable white collar sweatshop job just by -gasp- looking at words that 7 year olds gleefully use on the playground and adults gleefully use in every workplace in America, maybe you shouldn't look at the internet at work.
posted by cmonkey at 6:34 PM on April 15, 2005


I don't think there's any need to censor ourselves when the use of the word is appropriate. It's pretty hard to describe a link to a rendition of "Fuck the Police" without using the word "fuck".

That said, there's a prominent word that appears over and over again in those mp3's that Jimbob linked to that I think would generate universal condemnation if it was used on the front page in any but the most careful manner....
posted by mr_roboto at 6:34 PM on April 15, 2005


That said, there's a prominent word that appears over and over again in those mp3's that Jimbob linked to that I think would generate universal condemnation if it was used on the front page in any but the most careful manner....

Note: I abbreviated the name of the band. :)
posted by Jimbob at 6:35 PM on April 15, 2005


Having been shut down myself on the blue I'm not really into hitting the point overzealously. Lesson learned. Let's move on.
posted by snsranch at 6:36 PM on April 15, 2005


Fuck off. It's the internet.
posted by angry modem at 6:38 PM on April 15, 2005


F*ck the police?
posted by stet at 6:57 PM on April 15, 2005


Yeah... I was wondering about that too.
posted by Doohickie at 7:07 PM on April 15, 2005


I was surprised when I saw that the post referred to "Fuck The Police" and not "Fuck Tha Police".
posted by mlis at 7:16 PM on April 15, 2005


Please leave the NSFW words...

Please get back to your fucking job.
posted by c13 at 7:28 PM on April 15, 2005


mr_roboto, I totally have to go listen to those mp3s now just to figure out what word you are refering too. Then I can insight the rath of the Metafilter drama queens...
posted by Chuckles at 7:28 PM on April 15, 2005


I hereby declare MetaFilter NSFW. You've been warned.
posted by riffola at 7:37 PM on April 15, 2005


"Fuck Tha Police".

My bad.
posted by Jimbob at 7:39 PM on April 15, 2005


Of course that should have been "to", and "wrath"...

mr_roboto, are you just talking about nigger? I guess it is a little more sensitive than fuck, but...
posted by Chuckles at 7:40 PM on April 15, 2005


For that post it's understandable. Or it could have been constructed differently, [MI] or whatnot.

And I swear. A lot in fact. I try to limit it when I'm around older people at least. But I don't reallllllly like to see it or hear it from the media so much. It's so gratuitous these days. I know it's probably silly but I prefer not to read it outside of the web......I do actually prefer f##k or whatever. Strange sensibilities I suppose.

And I guess I like to think that the blue is the part of MeFi that is 'shown' to the public, the public face if you will. It's certainly not as evocative as the suicide girls kerfuffle but if I was just a casual visitor I'd rather I didn't have to be accosted by swearing at the front door here.
posted by peacay at 7:43 PM on April 15, 2005


Ow my freakin' ears!

Maybe the title wasn't in best taste, but there's no way I'd want to visit a metafilter that banned certain words from the front page. Anyone who's in a situation where they might be embarassed by seeing a few swear words in a paragraph of text shouldn't be surfing MeFi to begin with.

Fuck that shit.
posted by furtive at 7:46 PM on April 15, 2005


furtive I wouldn't want it banned either.....morelike community awareness.....like with inline pix elsewhere in the site.
Where there's a need, fine.
posted by peacay at 7:51 PM on April 15, 2005


Metafilter: not safe for work

Seriously. Deal with it.
posted by odinsdream at 8:15 PM on April 15, 2005


Fuck, doohickie, if your worksite is that picky, you shouldn't be reading MeFi there anyway. Maybe it's time we stop accomodating you loafers and scrap the NSFW tag completely. ;-P
posted by mischief at 8:23 PM on April 15, 2005


Oh for the love of God, PLEASE don't turn this into Fark. They're "no swear words" policy (while at the same time, containing the most puerile content) is absolutely asinine. If Metafilter was nothing but "Fark this shiat, biatch." then the fundies have won.
posted by fungible at 8:25 PM on April 15, 2005


Fuck Fark.

And Chuckles, I beleive it's spelled and pronounced 'niggas'.
posted by item at 8:33 PM on April 15, 2005


Seriously though, do people really think that they'll get in less trouble if they're caught wasting work time on a site that does not have cuss words?
posted by c13 at 8:56 PM on April 15, 2005


Does this mean that user #10,313 is banned from posting to the front page?
posted by mcwetboy at 9:02 PM on April 15, 2005


You can't be serious.
posted by Kwantsar at 9:05 PM on April 15, 2005


The word "fuck" (and its variations) in front page posts from the past year. In particular, note the November 28, 2004 entry. Would your boss' electronic sniffer get put out of joint by that particular appearance? I'll bet it would. If so, I think you're really reaching to so baldly assert, "The F-word does not belong on the front page of MeFi."

On preview, what mcwetboy said. You just can't demand a ban on "FUCK" on the front page.
posted by mediareport at 9:05 PM on April 15, 2005


Fark it! Everything on teh internets -- everthing in teh world -- ought to safe enough for five year olds to enjoy!
posted by orthogonality at 9:07 PM on April 15, 2005


For fuck's sake, won't somebody think of the fucking children?
posted by I EAT TAPES at 9:24 PM on April 15, 2005


This is pretty fucking stupid.
posted by eyeballkid at 10:52 PM on April 15, 2005


The F-word does not belong on the front page of MeFi.

Since the fuck when?
posted by CunningLinguist at 10:54 PM on April 15, 2005


Funny. At my work we call a "doohickie" a "whatchamafuck." But then I work for ass-rape-your-mother-then-assassinate-the-POTUS.com

We get a kickback every time one we get one of you slacker motherfuckers fired. Quit eating into my bonus, Doohickie.
posted by scarabic at 11:01 PM on April 15, 2005


WTF?
posted by fixedgear at 2:30 AM on April 16, 2005


Does your employer not know that NSFW means that you are looking at content that is, uh, NSFW?

Don't you realize that using the NSFW tag would be far more dangerous than simply reading and writing f u c k because it will stoke the bawdy fires of your employer's fundamentalist imagination? NSFW: What perversions lie within? Beastiality? Sadomasochism? How about: Drug addled necrophiles? NSFW: Sweet Jesus! Your employer's head will explode at the possibilities. You, your cubicle, your workmates will be covered in brain matter.

You will be fired.
posted by sic at 3:31 AM on April 16, 2005


The F-word does not belong on the front page of MeFi.

That's Matt's fucking decision, not yours.
posted by Ryvar at 4:00 AM on April 16, 2005


wow...so much spirited support for such a little word.
Not sure why everyone goes off about work. That's their problem.
I just think it's about the public face of the site and a bit of decorum to show visitors - not bannination, just ...errr......toning.
But no doubt every 2nd fucking post will be fucked up for fucking weeks now. fucksake
posted by peacay at 4:24 AM on April 16, 2005


MuthaFilter?
posted by matteo at 5:22 AM on April 16, 2005


MetaFuckingFilter?
posted by dg at 5:56 AM on April 16, 2005


a bit of decorum

Decorum??

MetaFilter???

*fucking head fucking explodes*

(This is a stupid fucking callout, but it's garnered some fucking brilliant responses, so... fuck it.)
posted by languagehat at 6:24 AM on April 16, 2005


as long as it doesn't look like this:

FUCK.
posted by exlotuseater at 8:44 AM on April 16, 2005


it won't kill y'all to not put cussin' on the front page!
posted by mcsweetie at 8:48 AM on April 16, 2005


the fuck it won't!
posted by graventy at 8:54 AM on April 16, 2005


FYI, http://a.wholelottafucking.org/ is still available.
posted by VulcanMike at 9:24 AM on April 16, 2005


If you like nature, and nekkid Scandinavians therein, can you say fuck for forest? (Beware: eco-conscious porn)
posted by liam at 10:28 AM on April 16, 2005


"Tony Danza's Uncut Wang" would be a great name for a band.
posted by ColdChef at 12:07 PM on April 16, 2005


Fuck yes or Fuck no aside, I was just going to suggest that, perhaps, when making a request, you may want to state it as a request or suggestion, rather than an absolute.

Maybe "I think the f-word doesn't belong on the front page" or "I'm freaked out that I'll get in trouble if I'm reading the F word at work" or whatever might start a conversation rather than just challenge people to use the f word as many times as possible.

Prescriptive statements seem to make the natives, um, restless.
posted by Gucky at 12:50 PM on April 16, 2005


"Prescriptive statements seem to make the natives, um, restless."

We don't like it when you generalize about us. ;-P
posted by mischief at 1:29 PM on April 16, 2005


We don't like it when you generalize about us.

(expecting the "ooh goo gaga one of us" chant)

But, but, but I used the word "seem"!

(steps slowly backwards to extricate herself from the tribal village before the tide turns against her)
posted by Gucky at 1:44 PM on April 16, 2005


Don't worry, Gucky, we were only speaking in general terms. heheh
posted by mischief at 2:22 PM on April 16, 2005


Fine. Jimbob wins. Fuck you all!
posted by Doohickie at 5:35 PM on April 16, 2005


Well, there ya go.
posted by ColdChef at 6:05 PM on April 16, 2005


fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
posted by grouse at 6:09 PM on April 16, 2005 [3 favorites]


grouse, we know you give a flying fuck.
posted by stirfry at 8:13 PM on April 16, 2005


Fuck!
posted by majcher at 12:20 PM on April 17, 2005


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