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You ain't got nothing Doctorow.
posted by allen.spaulding to MetaFilter-Related at 5:00 AM (74 comments total)

Metafilter in getting-linked-from-some-blog shocker.
posted by cillit bang at 5:22 AM on January 29, 2006


What?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:22 AM on January 29, 2006


By a Metafilter member, no less.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:23 AM on January 29, 2006


Oh I know he lurks here and that boingboing is linked to all over the place, I just wanted a chance to trash talk, sort of.
posted by allen.spaulding at 5:25 AM on January 29, 2006


Hooray for allen.spaulding, The African explorer. He brought his name undying fame, And that is why we say: Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

He put all his reliance In courage and defiance. And risked his life for science.

Hey, hey!
posted by crunchland at 5:26 AM on January 29, 2006


Most heartily we'll greet him, with plain and fancy cheering!

Until he's hard of hearing.

allen. has arrived! At last, allen. has arrived!
posted by Smart Dalek at 6:06 AM on January 29, 2006


There's a guy named mathowie who also frequently links to askme questions on his blog. It's like a bizzaro reverse self link askme filter. It would be fun to watch the meta implosion if he posted it in projects and then a newbie FPP'ed and finished the post with a "Discuss" or an editorializing leading question and then dios and PP posted in the thread and everyone jumped on them. Probably form some kind of superdense hyperlinking antimatter and destroy the internets.
posted by srboisvert at 7:00 AM on January 29, 2006


Has MeFi fallen so far?
posted by Space Coyote at 7:26 AM on January 29, 2006


Trash talk? I posted a link to a thread I thought was interesting (in delicious, where I track interesting stuff), and he posted a link to that.

Now he's posting tons of updates that add to the story which improves it. I don't see what the problem is.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 8:43 AM on January 29, 2006


Oh goodness. I saw he was writing on this story, so I link to it in what I thought was a humorous way, based on the subject matter. I realize crosslinkages between this site and boingboing are common, I thought this one was worth highlighting. Guess I was wrong.

Oh wait, this is my time to flame out. I want my $5 dollars back.
posted by allen.spaulding at 8:48 AM on January 29, 2006


Exchange transforms the things exchanged into signs of recognition and, through the mutual recognition and the recognition of group membership which it implies, reproduces the group. By the same token, it reaffirms the limits of the group, i.e., the limits beyond which the constitutive exchange -- trade, commensality, or marriage -- cannot take place. Each member of the group is thus instituted as a custodian of the limits of the group: because the definition of the criteria of entry is at stake in each new entry, he can modify the group by modifying the limits of legitimate exchange through some form of misalliance.

"The Forms of Capital", Pierre Bourdieu (1986).
posted by felix betachat at 8:49 AM on January 29, 2006


Oh wait, this is my time to flame out. I want my $5 dollars back.

No, no. This is your line :

Hello, I must be going. I cannot stay, I came to say I must be going. I'm glad I came, but just the same I must be going.
posted by crunchland at 8:51 AM on January 29, 2006


Well, all the jokes can't be good. You've got to expect that once in a while.
posted by Otis at 9:11 AM on January 29, 2006


Heh. I thought it was funny, allen.
posted by kindall at 9:14 AM on January 29, 2006


Well, having two people quote Animal Crackers at me always makes my day.

You know, you two have everything. You're tall and short and slim and stout and blonde and brunette, and that's just the kind of a poster I crave. We three would make an ideal couple. Why, you've got beauty, charm, money. You have got money, haven't you? 'Cause if you haven't, we can quit right now.
posted by allen.spaulding at 9:30 AM on January 29, 2006


Animal Crackers broadway program image.
posted by mwhybark at 10:16 AM on January 29, 2006


Doctorow is an idiot.
posted by Rothko at 10:35 AM on January 29, 2006


Oh duh, I got it. heh.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:39 AM on January 29, 2006


That was a classic Doctorow moment, Rothko. :)
posted by keswick at 10:51 AM on January 29, 2006


Cory may or may not be an idiot, and may or may not be a good fiction writer, but Rothko is definitely one of the best guys I know of at obsessively narrow and self-serving readings of a writer's intended meaning.
posted by lodurr at 11:01 AM on January 29, 2006


does he really have a mac tattoo? lolz.
posted by puke & cry at 11:05 AM on January 29, 2006



Doctorow embarked on a painful, painstaking endeavor to recover the data.

"This was about seven days' worth of miserable, round-the-clock trog-labor, locked up in my room with parts scattered all around me and notes with hex offsets scrawled on hundreds of scraps of paper piled ... in the Sisyphean stable," Doctorow wrote. "I hardly bathed or ate, and smoked hundreds, if not thousands, of cigarettes. When I emerged, triumphant and exhausted, I felt reborn.... I was a new man, and needed to commemorate the event."

Doctorow proceeded to collect a printout of the Sad Mac, which he took to his local tattoo parlor.


http://www.boingboing.net/2002/08/05/mac_tattoo_roundup.html
posted by keswick at 11:18 AM on January 29, 2006


It's of a "Sad Mac," so it's OK.
posted by brundlefly at 11:41 AM on January 29, 2006


Rothko is definitely one of the best guys I know of at obsessively narrow and self-serving readings of a writer's intended meaning.

Yes, it serves my blatant, pro-Apple agenda to make a joke about "dissing" Doctorow.
posted by Rothko at 12:02 PM on January 29, 2006


(Just for the record, and on the off chance someone cares: I'm inclined to think that Doctorow is not an idiot, though I find his brand of techno-optimifetishism rather annoying to say the least. I also think he's a pretty craftsmanlike prose stylist with some fairly clever story ideas, though he could use work on his characterization. I bother to say this because I've always had a pretty positive impression of Cory as a human being, and it irritates me when people dis someone "big" so they can feel bigger, too.)
posted by lodurr at 12:05 PM on January 29, 2006


And Rothko's also really good at obsessing on old battles. Did I mention that?
posted by lodurr at 12:05 PM on January 29, 2006


I think we already had one anti-boingboing tirade once this week. Do we really need to have another? Or are we just working our way through the editors, one by one? Because, I'll tell you, I've really got it in for that Uekalele loving Frauenfelder.
posted by crunchland at 12:12 PM on January 29, 2006


yikes, I hope thats a bad picture.
posted by puke & cry at 12:24 PM on January 29, 2006


referencing the tattoo...
posted by puke & cry at 12:25 PM on January 29, 2006


Lodurr, not for nothing, but just shut up already.
posted by Rothko at 12:49 PM on January 29, 2006


Testy boy, aren't we?
posted by lodurr at 12:50 PM on January 29, 2006


Ok, I'm pretty sure the only way to settle this is for each of you to write ancient ballads attacking the other.
posted by allen.spaulding at 1:02 PM on January 29, 2006


Or just to get a room in a cheap motel and work out all the latent sexual tension.
posted by keswick at 1:18 PM on January 29, 2006


No way, man! I'm not goin' anywhere near that bitch! He stole my hair gel!

And I'm too fried today for ancient ballads, so I guess it's just "go dark" time.
posted by lodurr at 1:24 PM on January 29, 2006


I still don't know what the fuck.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:44 PM on January 29, 2006


Testy boy, aren't we?

I wasn't the one with the stick up his ass.
posted by Rothko at 4:53 PM on January 29, 2006


mmm. popsickles.
posted by crunchland at 5:06 PM on January 29, 2006


Oh, man, Rothko, you just do not know when to quit, do you? You've had a hard-on for Cory Doctorow for some reason that I can't discern for a long time -- maybe it's got something to do with the fact that people respect his opinions and don't respect yours. Hell, I don't agree with him either, but he's a clever guy, he is as far as I can tell clearly NOT an idiot, and if he's more popular than me -- and he is -- then bully for him, as long as he doesn't use it as an excuse to be an ass (which, AFAICS, he doesn't).

But Rothko, this is not hte first, and I think not the second or even the third time you've posted a link to that little rant of his about Apple and DRM and either insinuated or outright stated that it demonstrates he's an "idiot". That smacks of something a little more than casual interest -- it smacks of gloating. Obsessive gloating.

The fact is that it doesn't demonstrate what you think it does, because you read it as saying things it's not saying. And no, I'm not going ot get into the specifics with you, because if history is any guide (and with oh-so-predictable you, I don't see how it could not be) you will drag it out until you are the last one posting in this thread, three weeks from now. ("Thank you, My comments!")

That's all I'm sayin', Rothko: You're obsessive. You should really get it looked into.
posted by lodurr at 5:10 PM on January 29, 2006


Lodurr wins.

(and I agree mostly with Lodurr on Doctorow, except that I like his techno-optimifetishism and think he writes very mediocre fiction all-round. In any case, he is by all accounts a pleasant non-idiot worthy of respect. I would say "Unlike insert username here", but I'm trying to move away from that kind of talk.)
posted by solid-one-love at 5:28 PM on January 29, 2006


You're obsessive.

Pot, meet Kettle.
posted by Rothko at 6:16 PM on January 29, 2006


And no, I'm not going ot get into the specifics with you

Then shut up.
posted by Rothko at 6:23 PM on January 29, 2006


didn't rothko say it was a joke? didn't spaulding (who wants his shirt, by the way) say that this thread was a joke?

what is this? national panties-in-a-bunch-over-nothing day?
posted by shmegegge at 7:12 PM on January 29, 2006


somebody post a ukelele link!
posted by mwhybark at 9:09 PM on January 29, 2006


Done.
posted by Astro Zombie at 9:40 PM on January 29, 2006


I still don't know what the fuck.

Oh, shit, I finally get it! The thread poster was dissing Cory Doctorow, which was the very subject of the boing boing post linked.

Well, finally. That was way worth it.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 10:09 PM on January 29, 2006


Lodurr, not for nothing, but just shut up already.

remember when we all chipped in and made you shut up for a week?

good times good times

to bad it was only for a week :/
posted by Dreamghost at 3:05 AM on January 30, 2006


:\
posted by Rothko at 6:12 AM on January 30, 2006


Which is to say, you're pretty a sad excuse for a human being, if that's how you get your kicks.
posted by Rothko at 6:15 AM on January 30, 2006


Oh alex please get aids and die. tia
posted by Dreamghost at 6:51 AM on January 30, 2006


Dreamghost, please go back to #mefi or #tapes with your bigoted shit k tia.
posted by Rothko at 6:58 AM on January 30, 2006


As soon as you die. ok sweetie pie ;)
posted by Dreamghost at 7:00 AM on January 30, 2006


Ok, bigot, whatever you say.
posted by Rothko at 7:03 AM on January 30, 2006


telling someone to die is not being bigoted.

but a bigot has a small mind And hey that sounds like you.

now please leave or die. Your not welcome here nomore.
posted by Dreamghost at 7:08 AM on January 30, 2006


You're all talk, and no action. I told you what you need to do, bigot, so cough up $50,000 and I'll leave.
posted by Rothko at 7:11 AM on January 30, 2006


And i told you. You are not even worth 50 cents.

clean out you ears, douchebag ;)

your pal,

dreamghost lokken
posted by Dreamghost at 7:14 AM on January 30, 2006


OHES NOES TYPO ALERT

you - your*
posted by Dreamghost at 7:14 AM on January 30, 2006


Mr. Big Shot, feel free to email me for my Paypal contact. Once your $50,000 payment clears, I'll ask Matt to disable my account and block my IPs.
posted by Rothko at 7:18 AM on January 30, 2006


why would i want you to go?

watching you flame out every other week is better entertainment then anything you would find on pay tv.
posted by Dreamghost at 7:22 AM on January 30, 2006


You wanted me to leave, and now you want me to stay. Make up your mind, bigot.
posted by Rothko at 7:28 AM on January 30, 2006


Your mothers wear army boots.

There is a certain discordant, disappointed irony to seeing the preceding exchange in a thread inspired by "invective poetry".
posted by lodurr at 8:36 AM on January 30, 2006


Metafilter: get aids and die. tia
posted by moift at 10:31 AM on January 30, 2006


Dreamghost writes "Oh alex please get aids and die. tia"

What a totally fucked up thing to write. Bigoted and fucked up. At the very best that remark reveals a lack of imagination so severe that you should reconsider your whole project; at nowhere near the worst it suggests a homophobia which you should do everything you can to hide if you want to be taken seriously. As angry as Rothko makes you I can't think why you would think that that would be an appropriate response; and as much as I'd like to not sound like somebody's mother, you should be ashamed of yourself.
posted by OmieWise at 12:22 PM on January 30, 2006


Anytime it gets to "I wish you were dead" and adults are involved, I'd say someone's officially taking it too far. And it's pretty safe to say that it's not the person being wished at.

Man, I must really be getting old. I kept thinking "Fucked up, sure, but: Where's he getting 'bigoted' from?" I forget that AIDS is supposed to be a 'gay disease.' And I forgot that Rothko was gay. At least, I think I knew that.
posted by lodurr at 12:34 PM on January 30, 2006


I'm assuming that a timeout or two has commenced, since I can't imagine that this little game has abruptly stopped for any other reason.
posted by Gator at 12:47 PM on January 30, 2006


No, sorry, I'm still here. I've done nothing wrong.
posted by Rothko at 12:52 PM on January 30, 2006


The comment was in jest. It is not bigoted maybe tasteless. I stopped posting earlier because we were both posting nothing but garbage. So i walked away...
posted by Dreamghost at 12:59 PM on January 30, 2006


How about that. Carry on not posting garbage then, and apologies.
posted by Gator at 1:03 PM on January 30, 2006


I stopped posting earlier because we were both posting nothing but garbage.

Speak for yourself, bigot.
posted by Rothko at 1:06 PM on January 30, 2006


dreamghost can't be a bigot, he's 1/18 Cherokee or something. QED
posted by moift at 1:12 PM on January 30, 2006


How about that. Carry on not posting garbage then, and apologies.

Well i can only speak for myself. I should of known better then to lower myself to Rothko's level. So i apologize on my part.

Crunchland gave me some good advice via IM and i think i will follow it.
posted by Dreamghost at 1:18 PM on January 30, 2006


I apologize for Dreamghost's trolling and bigotry, too, insofar as responding to his garbage just makes him worse.
posted by Rothko at 1:26 PM on January 30, 2006


Dreamghost - I'll drop the shaming thing, because I've already made my feelings clear, but it's not clear how that's a joke. Kudos on stepping away from a situation in which you were not shining.

Rothko - Stop willfully trying to sound like a seventh grader.
posted by OmieWise at 1:44 PM on January 30, 2006


Rothko - Stop willfully trying to sound like a seventh grader.

Good for you, dealing out sanctimony with both hands, even if only one person deserves it. Makes you look fair.
posted by Rothko at 2:01 PM on January 30, 2006


you know, thanks to stavros I now understand this thread. I didn't at first. That being said:

2 words, doctorow:

Charles. Stross.
posted by shmegegge at 5:31 PM on January 30, 2006


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