Is MeFi the new digg? August 1, 2007 12:12 PM Subscribe
What are the rules for posting to MeFi? Ive noticed that many posts are news articles and many of the op/ed posts get snarked or berated for not being newsworthy... I thought this was "best of the web"?
I for one will read digg if I want news and MeFi if I want to find interesting web articles...
I for one will read digg if I want news and MeFi if I want to find interesting web articles...
But...both your posts to Mefi have been news articles (although with good supporting links)...
So maybe you should clarify your definitions of news and web artciels?
posted by vacapinta at 12:24 PM on August 1, 2007
But...both your posts to Mefi have been news articles (although with good supporting links)...
So maybe you should clarify your definitions of news and web artciels?
posted by vacapinta at 12:24 PM on August 1, 2007
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:24 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:24 PM on August 1, 2007
The only rule is: No matter what you post, some asshat will tell you you suck for posting it.
posted by bondcliff at 12:26 PM on August 1, 2007 [7 favorites]
posted by bondcliff at 12:26 PM on August 1, 2007 [7 favorites]
Dear Rip Van Subaruwrx ... You've had an account since 2005 and you're only just now noticing the confusion over what makes a good metafilter post? And does the death of a couple horned owls count as news or best-of-the-web?
As for the snark, well, there's no shortage of that here. Even if you stumble upon the perfect formula for making the quintessential metafilter post, you'll still get some of that. It's a by-product of all the cabbage and cheese, you see.
posted by Dave Faris at 12:29 PM on August 1, 2007
As for the snark, well, there's no shortage of that here. Even if you stumble upon the perfect formula for making the quintessential metafilter post, you'll still get some of that. It's a by-product of all the cabbage and cheese, you see.
posted by Dave Faris at 12:29 PM on August 1, 2007
WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW!?
posted by loquacious at 12:32 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by loquacious at 12:32 PM on August 1, 2007
You know that quote that Neitzsche has about the thought of suicide often being comforting in a dark night? I now feel that way about making the most inappropriate faux pas imaginable on metafilter. I stare into the abyss, and that is enough.
posted by piratebowling at 12:33 PM on August 1, 2007 [4 favorites]
posted by piratebowling at 12:33 PM on August 1, 2007 [4 favorites]
I couldn't help but notice that somebody Lohanned the owls thread. I think we're witnessing the birth of a new Godwin.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:37 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:37 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
Wow, even I can't summon the energy to denounce newsfilter yet again.
posted by LarryC at 12:40 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by LarryC at 12:40 PM on August 1, 2007
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?
Doesn't it ever stop? Doesn't it ever stop? Doesn't it ever stop? Doesn't ever stop!1
WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW!?
LUCY:
AND WAY UP THERE THOSE FLUFFY LITTLE WHITE THINGS,
THOSE ARE CLOUDS,
THEY MAKE THE WIND BLOW.
AND WAY DOWN THERE,
THOSE TINY LITTLE BLACK THINGS...
THOSE ARE BUGS
THEY MAKE THE GRASS GROW.
LINUS:
Is that so?
LUCY:
That's right! They run around all day, tugging and tugging on each tiny seedling until it grows into a great tall blade of grass!
LINUS:
Boy, that's amazing!
CHARLIE BROWN:
Oh, good grief!2
1From a 1/4" reel-to-reel tape loop occasionally played in the late 80s-early 90s on WZRD-FM in Chicago
2"Little Known Facts", from the musical "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown"
posted by davejay at 12:41 PM on August 1, 2007
Doesn't it ever stop? Doesn't it ever stop? Doesn't it ever stop? Doesn't ever stop!1
WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW!?
LUCY:
AND WAY UP THERE THOSE FLUFFY LITTLE WHITE THINGS,
THOSE ARE CLOUDS,
THEY MAKE THE WIND BLOW.
AND WAY DOWN THERE,
THOSE TINY LITTLE BLACK THINGS...
THOSE ARE BUGS
THEY MAKE THE GRASS GROW.
LINUS:
Is that so?
LUCY:
That's right! They run around all day, tugging and tugging on each tiny seedling until it grows into a great tall blade of grass!
LINUS:
Boy, that's amazing!
CHARLIE BROWN:
Oh, good grief!2
1From a 1/4" reel-to-reel tape loop occasionally played in the late 80s-early 90s on WZRD-FM in Chicago
2"Little Known Facts", from the musical "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown"
posted by davejay at 12:41 PM on August 1, 2007
Hmm. How would that work? If in any thread about moderation, a point is raised of the type "If Lohann, then anything," then the thread is irreversibly polluted and is immediately closed for decontamination?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:42 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:42 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
Wow, user numbers really are meaningless.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 12:43 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 12:43 PM on August 1, 2007
Huh. And all this time I thought it was BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!
posted by Big_B at 12:43 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by Big_B at 12:43 PM on August 1, 2007
"Little Known Facts", from the musical "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown"
Ha! I played Snoopy in a production of that show. I must have been 12 or so. Good memories.
posted by ludwig_van at 12:48 PM on August 1, 2007
Ha! I played Snoopy in a production of that show. I must have been 12 or so. Good memories.
posted by ludwig_van at 12:48 PM on August 1, 2007
While "What makes a good post" is only a slightly less vexing question that "Why does a omniscient, omnipotent and good God permit evil?" I will support Mr. Subaru's point that those who cut and paste the topic-du-jour or bland news articles from Digg or Reddit usually fail to make MeFi the "best of the web."
Count me among the Mefites opposed to Meftafilter's diggification. Let the Inquisition to root out the digg party heretics begin! Who will be our Torquemada?
posted by MasonDixon at 12:52 PM on August 1, 2007
Count me among the Mefites opposed to Meftafilter's diggification. Let the Inquisition to root out the digg party heretics begin! Who will be our Torquemada?
posted by MasonDixon at 12:52 PM on August 1, 2007
Huh. And all this time I thought it was BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!
It is. Homeboy over there is just trippin' with the birds. No, I don't know where he got it, but he's really going to get it if he's still naked up in that tree when the CO gets here.
posted by loquacious at 12:52 PM on August 1, 2007
It is. Homeboy over there is just trippin' with the birds. No, I don't know where he got it, but he's really going to get it if he's still naked up in that tree when the CO gets here.
posted by loquacious at 12:52 PM on August 1, 2007
oh god I've made a spelling error. I brace for evisceration.
posted by MasonDixon at 12:54 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by MasonDixon at 12:54 PM on August 1, 2007
Ha! I played Snoopy in a production of that show. I must have been 12 or so.
I played Schroeder. That's not you Laurel, is it?
posted by progosk at 12:57 PM on August 1, 2007
I played Schroeder. That's not you Laurel, is it?
posted by progosk at 12:57 PM on August 1, 2007
Do you know something Schroeder? I think the way you play the piano... is nice.
But I'm afraid not sir, they call me Steve.
posted by ludwig_van at 12:58 PM on August 1, 2007
But I'm afraid not sir, they call me Steve.
posted by ludwig_van at 12:58 PM on August 1, 2007
I for one will read digg if I want news and MeFi if I want to find interesting web articles
If you're going to threaten us you can just take your horned owls and go home!
posted by prostyle at 1:08 PM on August 1, 2007
If you're going to threaten us you can just take your horned owls and go home!
posted by prostyle at 1:08 PM on August 1, 2007
I think we need a moratorium on post-metatalk-post haituses.
subaruwrx, can you elaborate on this at all?
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:11 PM on August 1, 2007
subaruwrx, can you elaborate on this at all?
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:11 PM on August 1, 2007
Alright that is it. I am closing MetaTalk down for a week. If you have any issues, just e-mail the mods. Safety valve be damned, this has just gotten out of control. How am I closing it down you ask? With my fist.
Ki- AH!
posted by ND¢ at 1:11 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
Ki- AH!
posted by ND¢ at 1:11 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
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.
(one for each owl)
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(for death of worthy MeTa posts)
posted by thatweirdguy2 at 1:15 PM on August 1, 2007
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(one for each owl)
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(for death of worthy MeTa posts)
posted by thatweirdguy2 at 1:15 PM on August 1, 2007
subaruwrx posted "I for one will read digg if I want news and MeFi if I want to find interesting web articles... "
Sounds like a plan! Go for it!
posted by mr_roboto at 1:18 PM on August 1, 2007
Sounds like a plan! Go for it!
posted by mr_roboto at 1:18 PM on August 1, 2007
Fact is, "Best of the Web" has already been done here. We just lard things over with lots of snark and the occasional "very smart comment." Nothing wrong with that.
posted by bardic at 1:22 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by bardic at 1:22 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
What are the rules for posting to MeTa? Because I'm pretty sure they could stand to be more stringent.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 1:23 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 1:23 PM on August 1, 2007
Take it to AskMeFi. Once you've posted this question in it's appropriate place, you are free to come back here and bitch about the answers you receive. Now go.
posted by Sailormom at 1:23 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Sailormom at 1:23 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?
posted by ikkyu2 at 1:33 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by ikkyu2 at 1:33 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
For God's sake, this is ridiculous.
1. No one has to post to MeTa every time they don't like how their post was deleted/received/snarked.
2. If you're going to come in here and poop all over us, then you damn well better come back in before the comment count hits 50 and start responding to people asking for more information. I cannot take any more of this "Look! I'm shitting in MeTa! Have fun figuring out if I'm a troll or just confused!" bullshit.
3. People shit on posts. It happens. You MUST have known this already. When the transit strike in nyc happened, affecting millions of people and easily interesting to anyone who cares about labor disputes and the effect of transit on commercial business whether they live in nyc or not, there were people saying "I don't live in new york. Why should I care about this and why is it on metafilter?" IGNORE THEM.
Are we done, now?
posted by shmegegge at 1:34 PM on August 1, 2007
1. No one has to post to MeTa every time they don't like how their post was deleted/received/snarked.
2. If you're going to come in here and poop all over us, then you damn well better come back in before the comment count hits 50 and start responding to people asking for more information. I cannot take any more of this "Look! I'm shitting in MeTa! Have fun figuring out if I'm a troll or just confused!" bullshit.
3. People shit on posts. It happens. You MUST have known this already. When the transit strike in nyc happened, affecting millions of people and easily interesting to anyone who cares about labor disputes and the effect of transit on commercial business whether they live in nyc or not, there were people saying "I don't live in new york. Why should I care about this and why is it on metafilter?" IGNORE THEM.
Are we done, now?
posted by shmegegge at 1:34 PM on August 1, 2007
METAFILTER DIES ON PAGE 318!
posted by GuyZero at 1:36 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by GuyZero at 1:36 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
hold me, shmegegge.
posted by boo_radley at 1:36 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by boo_radley at 1:36 PM on August 1, 2007
*sob, sob-sob, sob sob
posted by boo_radley at 1:38 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by boo_radley at 1:38 PM on August 1, 2007
shut up.
posted by Stynxno at 1:38 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by Stynxno at 1:38 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
It's Suppertime.
Yes, it's suppertime.
Oh, it's sup- sup- suppertime, very best time of day.
posted by progosk at 1:41 PM on August 1, 2007
Yes, it's suppertime.
Oh, it's sup- sup- suppertime, very best time of day.
posted by progosk at 1:41 PM on August 1, 2007
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop
posted by everichon at 1:47 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by everichon at 1:47 PM on August 1, 2007
I think digg has too much news, but Metafilter has too little. For just the right amount, I like to watch the E! channel on TV.
posted by poppo at 1:47 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by poppo at 1:47 PM on August 1, 2007
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop tape loop
*smacks everichon*
... tape loop lately?
posted by amyms at 1:53 PM on August 1, 2007
*smacks everichon*
... tape loop lately?
posted by amyms at 1:53 PM on August 1, 2007
I'm beginning to think Meta posts are roundly snarked and posted just to have a reason to talk to one another. How else would any of the people in these threads keep in regular group contact with one another? It's a bonafide subculture of metafilter. Really, it seems like the two best ways to handle Metas that are from functional newbies, or just people being crabby is to either be helpful or roll your eyes and find something else to do. Yet, the posts elicit long discussions with people being clever or jumping on the insulted bandwagon. Which is fine, I guess, but it is in reality just community chit chat/reinforcing activity.
Yeah, the eternal "best of the web" is a tired discussion for those who have had it before, over and over and over, but this is not a gated community, there will ALWAYS be people who haven't had the discussion, and who will want to know what the hell "." means. The best thing would be to point them to a FAQ and close the thread.
Just as people bitch about people who ask these things because it is tiresome, the bitching about those things also becomes tiresome.
it is all an infinite loop to which I'm sure I've added more momentum.
posted by edgeways at 2:00 PM on August 1, 2007
Yeah, the eternal "best of the web" is a tired discussion for those who have had it before, over and over and over, but this is not a gated community, there will ALWAYS be people who haven't had the discussion, and who will want to know what the hell "." means. The best thing would be to point them to a FAQ and close the thread.
Just as people bitch about people who ask these things because it is tiresome, the bitching about those things also becomes tiresome.
it is all an infinite loop to which I'm sure I've added more momentum.
posted by edgeways at 2:00 PM on August 1, 2007
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?
To understand recursion, first you must understand recursion.
subaruwrx, I give you an F for observation - you have been here for almost two years and you still don't get what is going on? Your user name pops up here quite a lot, so it's not because you aren't an active member. I would call you an idiot, but I'm trying to stay away from personal attacks on people here.
Oh, fuck it. You're an idiot.
posted by dg at 2:00 PM on August 1, 2007
To understand recursion, first you must understand recursion.
subaruwrx, I give you an F for observation - you have been here for almost two years and you still don't get what is going on? Your user name pops up here quite a lot, so it's not because you aren't an active member. I would call you an idiot, but I'm trying to stay away from personal attacks on people here.
Oh, fuck it. You're an idiot.
posted by dg at 2:00 PM on August 1, 2007
The wiki is a good start:
http://mssv.net/wiki.cgi?WhatIsAGoodPost
It's really hard to codify what makes a good post a good post.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:09 PM on August 1, 2007
http://mssv.net/wiki.cgi?WhatIsAGoodPost
It's really hard to codify what makes a good post a good post.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:09 PM on August 1, 2007
I see where you are coming from edgeways. I often don't have time to read the links in FPPs so I don't comment in them but MetaTalk is about Metafilter, so I always know what we are talking about over here so I can pop in and comment on anything. But you are right. It may not be helpful. If we had a moderator in MeTa who would have to flip a switch to allow general commenting in a thread, but who ninety percent of the time just left one comment saying "See FAQ #7" or "E-mail cortex" and then closed the thread, then I think that there would be rioting in the e-streets. But at the same time, I do think that MeTa has been the same twelve posts over and over again lately or just blatant attention-whoring and that we should look for a way to curb that. However, me popping into MeTa threads and saying something random and unhelpful is not the way to do that, so I think that I will try to cut back a little.
posted by ND¢ at 2:13 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by ND¢ at 2:13 PM on August 1, 2007
int main() {
meta:
printf("Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?\n");
goto meta;
}
posted by Loto at 2:15 PM on August 1, 2007
how many time zones?
posted by boo_radley at 2:15 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by boo_radley at 2:15 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
Im not talking about my two posts. I dont really post, because I dont spend enough time on the web to find anything that I think is worthy of the blue.
Then, I come here and read the same topics about Alberto Gonzalez, Lindsey Lohan that I find on Digg, or the latest youtube craze, or some other repost from Digg or reddit or fark and wonder "what happened to the metafilter that wooed me into her sweet bosom?"
I think the 40% of MeFi that is still about finding excellent websites that are interesting to read and I hope that this doesnt turn into Digg. Thats all Im saying. Lets have more editorials and less news/youtube/obits/E!
posted by subaruwrx at 2:18 PM on August 1, 2007
Then, I come here and read the same topics about Alberto Gonzalez, Lindsey Lohan that I find on Digg, or the latest youtube craze, or some other repost from Digg or reddit or fark and wonder "what happened to the metafilter that wooed me into her sweet bosom?"
I think the 40% of MeFi that is still about finding excellent websites that are interesting to read and I hope that this doesnt turn into Digg. Thats all Im saying. Lets have more editorials and less news/youtube/obits/E!
posted by subaruwrx at 2:18 PM on August 1, 2007
It is a blessing for us all that you have posted this thread, subaruwrx, because I have lots of EXCELLENT SHINY NEW THINGS to share, but they are for a variety of reasons not suitable for the front page of MetaFilter. I was waiting for an appropriate opportunity to post them here, in MetaTalk, so thank you for helping to facilitate this.
Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please to accept my apologies and to enjoy these "Guaranteed Best of the Web" links:
posted by Meatbomb at 2:19 PM on August 1, 2007 [13 favorites]
Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please to accept my apologies and to enjoy these "Guaranteed Best of the Web" links:
- for my beloved sister: a video of a pirate, bowling;
- Apparently the term "Meat Bomb" can refer to a skydiver with a critical parachute failure - go figure;
- for my respected mentor, IRFH, Florence Henderson in a risque black bondage outfit;
- as an ongoing part of my own nefarious and hidden agenda for MetaTalk, Liza Minelli sings "I'm Losing my Mind";
- you think dogs and ducks are interesting? Well how about a dog attacking a fucking shark?!?
- If you like laughing at other people's misfortunes, then this is what's hot today;
- Do you feel you could be masturbating more effectively? Are you a man? Then Advanced Masturbatory Techniques may be the place for you;
- http://www.infiniteloop.com/ access denied: this link is exempt from the Meatbomb Best of the Web Guarantee;
- Singing Tesla Coil. This is a solid-state Tesla coil. The primary runs at its resonant frequency in the 41 KHz range, and is modulated from the control unit in order to generate the tones you hear;
- There are a set of links at www.newgrounds.com called "You are a Fucking Moron" - please be aware that due to foul language these pages are NSFW.
posted by Meatbomb at 2:19 PM on August 1, 2007 [13 favorites]
Im not talking about my two posts.
Right, because nobody is talking about their own shitty posts. Just the shitty posts of others.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:22 PM on August 1, 2007 [3 favorites]
Right, because nobody is talking about their own shitty posts. Just the shitty posts of others.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:22 PM on August 1, 2007 [3 favorites]
int main() {
meta:
printf("Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?\n");
goto meta;
}
YM
10 PRINT "Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?"
20 GOTO 10
HTH.
posted by dersins at 2:24 PM on August 1, 2007
meta:
printf("Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?\n");
goto meta;
}
YM
10 PRINT "Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?"
20 GOTO 10
HTH.
posted by dersins at 2:24 PM on August 1, 2007
lately lately lately lately lately lately lately lately lately lately lately ccrrrrzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxxxxxx snap.
posted by nthdegx at 2:25 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by nthdegx at 2:25 PM on August 1, 2007
goto meta;
Seriously? Goto?
You suck and should be banned for life.
posted by jeffamaphone at 2:25 PM on August 1, 2007
Seriously? Goto?
You suck and should be banned for life.
posted by jeffamaphone at 2:25 PM on August 1, 2007
So Im an idiot. Thats fine. I still dont understand why 60-70% of MeFi is reposts from Digg. If I read it on Digg, I dont need to read about it on the blue. Sure, many people dont read digg, but lets focus more on the posts that have a point and a topic with several supporting links.
Sierously, this has nothing to do with either of my posts. I thought they were both fine and informative and I wanted to share them... The Owls, I was doing research since it happened in my backyard and I wanted to share the effect of two birds on an entire community. I thought it provided a nice social commentary on San Francisco and a fine diversion to teh political topics of the day. Then I come in here today and find "jewtube" and news articles about British Airways and the FTC... Sorry for the post, I guess I should know better, but postings like this make Metafilter not Metafilter, it makes it digg.
posted by subaruwrx at 2:26 PM on August 1, 2007
Sierously, this has nothing to do with either of my posts. I thought they were both fine and informative and I wanted to share them... The Owls, I was doing research since it happened in my backyard and I wanted to share the effect of two birds on an entire community. I thought it provided a nice social commentary on San Francisco and a fine diversion to teh political topics of the day. Then I come in here today and find "jewtube" and news articles about British Airways and the FTC... Sorry for the post, I guess I should know better, but postings like this make Metafilter not Metafilter, it makes it digg.
posted by subaruwrx at 2:26 PM on August 1, 2007
jeffamaphone: I thought a shitty thread deserved shitting programming.
posted by Loto at 2:26 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by Loto at 2:26 PM on August 1, 2007
I do think that MeTa has been the same twelve posts over and over again lately or just blatant attention-whoring and that we should look for a way to curb that.
ND¢, you seem to think that attention-whoring on Metatalk is a bad thing? Is it any skin off your back if we all look at Meatbomb for a few moments each day? Please clarify, and don't forget to favourite my comment above.
posted by Meatbomb at 2:26 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
ND¢, you seem to think that attention-whoring on Metatalk is a bad thing? Is it any skin off your back if we all look at Meatbomb for a few moments each day? Please clarify, and don't forget to favourite my comment above.
posted by Meatbomb at 2:26 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
loto: Okay, good point. I love you. Welcome back to the fold.
posted by jeffamaphone at 2:27 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by jeffamaphone at 2:27 PM on August 1, 2007
Vacapinta, can we please go just one day without you giving me shit for something? Please? One?
posted by subaruwrx at 2:28 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by subaruwrx at 2:28 PM on August 1, 2007
I still dont understand why 60-70% of MeFi is reposts from Digg.
The same reason that every good book is about sex or death or both. Because otherwise there would be nothing but boring content. There are a billion current-events-aggregators on the web. Your choice of one or the other doesn't change the content of the web; it only changes your view of it and the quality of the commentary. Get over it.
posted by jeffamaphone at 2:29 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
The same reason that every good book is about sex or death or both. Because otherwise there would be nothing but boring content. There are a billion current-events-aggregators on the web. Your choice of one or the other doesn't change the content of the web; it only changes your view of it and the quality of the commentary. Get over it.
posted by jeffamaphone at 2:29 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
I don't understand why Digg is 60-70% reposts from Metafilter.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:29 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:29 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]
Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?
posted by Astro Zombie at 2:29 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by Astro Zombie at 2:29 PM on August 1, 2007
Seriously, if you're reading two websites that provide identical content, perhaps you should stop reading one. I chose Metafilter over Digg. You could do the same.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:30 PM on August 1, 2007 [3 favorites]
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:30 PM on August 1, 2007 [3 favorites]
dersins:
(loop (print "Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?"))
posted by Loto at 2:31 PM on August 1, 2007
(loop (print "Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?"))
posted by Loto at 2:31 PM on August 1, 2007
Metafilter doesnt move fast enough. Plus, I read digg for the political commentary.
I used to read metafilter because it would provide certain topics that transcend news. Still does, just with less frequency...
posted by subaruwrx at 2:33 PM on August 1, 2007
I used to read metafilter because it would provide certain topics that transcend news. Still does, just with less frequency...
posted by subaruwrx at 2:33 PM on August 1, 2007
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posted by jeffamaphone at 2:35 PM on August 1, 2007
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posted by jeffamaphone at 2:35 PM on August 1, 2007
Metafilter doesnt move fast enough. Plus, I read digg for the political commentary.
Just to be clear about this. You're saying that you read digg for links to political commentary, right? Not because you value the commentary of digg users?
posted by shmegegge at 2:40 PM on August 1, 2007
Just to be clear about this. You're saying that you read digg for links to political commentary, right? Not because you value the commentary of digg users?
posted by shmegegge at 2:40 PM on August 1, 2007
Links to political commentary. Digg users are only slightly more intellectual than the SA goons.
posted by subaruwrx at 2:43 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by subaruwrx at 2:43 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
Digg users are only slightly more intellectual than the SA goons.
I don't know what you're talking about.
posted by shmegegge at 2:48 PM on August 1, 2007
I don't know what you're talking about.
posted by shmegegge at 2:48 PM on August 1, 2007
for(;;Console.WriteLine("Metafilter") );
posted by blue_beetle at 2:50 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by blue_beetle at 2:50 PM on August 1, 2007
Apparently the term "Meat Bomb" can refer to a skydiver with a critical parachute failure - go figure;
I've also heard 'dirt torpedo', FRM (fine red mist), and someone who suffered from severe deceleration trauma AKA concrete poisoning.
posted by quin at 2:54 PM on August 1, 2007
I've also heard 'dirt torpedo', FRM (fine red mist), and someone who suffered from severe deceleration trauma AKA concrete poisoning.
posted by quin at 2:54 PM on August 1, 2007
"what happened to the metafilter that wooed me into her sweet bosom?"
Wait, Metafilter's a she? I always thought....
I feel weird.
posted by penguin pie at 3:00 PM on August 1, 2007
Wait, Metafilter's a she? I always thought....
I feel weird.
posted by penguin pie at 3:00 PM on August 1, 2007
So Im an idiot. Thats fine. I still dont understand why 60-70% of MeFi is reposts from Digg. If I read it on Digg, I dont need to read about it on the blue. Sure, many people dont read digg, but lets focus more on the posts that have a point and a topic with several supporting links.
You're not an idiot, people just get restless and snarky when the host doesn't show up for dinner. The problem with calling out stuff that lands on Digg as being as such not good metafilter material is it misses the reality that good stuff gets popular. Digg, as you say, moves much faster than mefi—it goes through how many thousands of links a day? Some of the same stuff that gets posted there is going to get posted on mefi, and I'm willing to be that it's very rarely the case that someone posts something to Mefi because they saw it on Digg.
And I hear you—I like the weirder, off-the-beaten-path stuff too—but the internet has changed a whole lot in eight years and you have to acknowledge the role that has in what you're describing as a new phenomenon. In 1999 or 2001 a whole lot less of the path had been beaten, and things like Digg just didn't exist to the same degree. Now there's aggregation up the wazoo and a much bigger, much more active group of people pointing to or collecting content. Some redundancy in what shows up from site to site is inevitable, and it doesn't make much sense to condemn folks for posting interesting stuff just because the stuff happens to have gotten popular.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:00 PM on August 1, 2007
You're not an idiot, people just get restless and snarky when the host doesn't show up for dinner. The problem with calling out stuff that lands on Digg as being as such not good metafilter material is it misses the reality that good stuff gets popular. Digg, as you say, moves much faster than mefi—it goes through how many thousands of links a day? Some of the same stuff that gets posted there is going to get posted on mefi, and I'm willing to be that it's very rarely the case that someone posts something to Mefi because they saw it on Digg.
And I hear you—I like the weirder, off-the-beaten-path stuff too—but the internet has changed a whole lot in eight years and you have to acknowledge the role that has in what you're describing as a new phenomenon. In 1999 or 2001 a whole lot less of the path had been beaten, and things like Digg just didn't exist to the same degree. Now there's aggregation up the wazoo and a much bigger, much more active group of people pointing to or collecting content. Some redundancy in what shows up from site to site is inevitable, and it doesn't make much sense to condemn folks for posting interesting stuff just because the stuff happens to have gotten popular.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:00 PM on August 1, 2007
Let's think about this... everything is posted to Digg. Then the good stuff floats to the top, and you don't see the crap. That is the point of Digg. How could it not have a heavy overlap with a site that tries to only post the good stuff to start with?
Also, 30% of Digg is Ron Paul posts, compared to roughly 1% here, so there's no overlap there. Plus Digg has all the tech posts, and those don't get posted here. So basically, stop pulling numbers out of thin air to support your arguments.
posted by smackfu at 3:01 PM on August 1, 2007
Also, 30% of Digg is Ron Paul posts, compared to roughly 1% here, so there's no overlap there. Plus Digg has all the tech posts, and those don't get posted here. So basically, stop pulling numbers out of thin air to support your arguments.
posted by smackfu at 3:01 PM on August 1, 2007
When the transit strike in nyc happened, affecting millions of people and easily interesting to anyone who cares about labor disputes and the effect of transit on commercial business whether they live in nyc or not, there were people saying "I don't live in new york. Why should I care about this and why is it on metafilter?" IGNORE THEM.
Does this me it's okay for me to post about the CUPE strike in Vancouver? Goody.
posted by timeistight at 3:02 PM on August 1, 2007
Does this me it's okay for me to post about the CUPE strike in Vancouver? Goody.
posted by timeistight at 3:02 PM on August 1, 2007
me s/b mean
posted by timeistight at 3:10 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by timeistight at 3:10 PM on August 1, 2007
also, for your future use, subaruwrx, a supply of GODDAMN APOSTROPHES: ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
use them whenever you contract something.
posted by boo_radley at 3:11 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
use them whenever you contract something.
posted by boo_radley at 3:11 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
sorry boo. Im of the persuasion that doesnt use apostrophes when writing and I dont use them when speaking. Its not something I do on purpose, just should I shouldve learned buy didnt.
posted by subaruwrx at 3:14 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by subaruwrx at 3:14 PM on August 1, 2007
That's not a persuasion.
posted by boo_radley at 3:15 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by boo_radley at 3:15 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
Smackfu, Excellent points. I should have come in here, but I was on my way out to lunch... I got back and had a conf call... Anyway.
It's not really the good posts that I am complaining about, it's the one link posts that show up 20 minutes after they make front page on digg that I don't like. I understand and I'll calm down now... I just get so sick of seeing regurgitated material. Besides, I think I made my point, be it valid or unsubstantiated, it's made.
posted by subaruwrx at 3:17 PM on August 1, 2007
It's not really the good posts that I am complaining about, it's the one link posts that show up 20 minutes after they make front page on digg that I don't like. I understand and I'll calm down now... I just get so sick of seeing regurgitated material. Besides, I think I made my point, be it valid or unsubstantiated, it's made.
posted by subaruwrx at 3:17 PM on August 1, 2007
youre a persuasion... a perverse persuasion... rawr...
posted by subaruwrx at 3:18 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by subaruwrx at 3:18 PM on August 1, 2007
thats not a shark. that's a dead shark. man, i feel gypped.
posted by sergeant sandwich at 3:23 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by sergeant sandwich at 3:23 PM on August 1, 2007
Does this me it's okay for me to post about the CUPE strike in Vancouver? Goody.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. My opinion is that, unless you put some effort into the post, you shouldn't just post a news article no matter what. But since people do that all the time and get away with it, you can go ahead and post it and I'd be perfectly fine with it. But understand that you will then get an assload of jerks wandering into the thread screaming "local news! why is this on mefi!?"
posted by shmegegge at 3:23 PM on August 1, 2007
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. My opinion is that, unless you put some effort into the post, you shouldn't just post a news article no matter what. But since people do that all the time and get away with it, you can go ahead and post it and I'd be perfectly fine with it. But understand that you will then get an assload of jerks wandering into the thread screaming "local news! why is this on mefi!?"
posted by shmegegge at 3:23 PM on August 1, 2007
Mefi is the new Digg is the new Zombo is the new Mefi.
posted by Salmonberry at 3:26 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by Salmonberry at 3:26 PM on August 1, 2007
thats not a shark. that's a dead shark. man, i feel gypped.
[NOT ROMANI-IST!]
posted by Mid at 3:30 PM on August 1, 2007
[NOT ROMANI-IST!]
posted by Mid at 3:30 PM on August 1, 2007
people just get restless and snarky when the host doesn't show up for dinner.
I'll say. As seen above, that shit damn near gets me frothing at the mouth.
posted by shmegegge at 3:41 PM on August 1, 2007
I'll say. As seen above, that shit damn near gets me frothing at the mouth.
posted by shmegegge at 3:41 PM on August 1, 2007
void metatalk() { cout < is meta just an infinite tape loop lately?\n;/br> metatalk(); }void main(){ metatalk();}posted by team lowkey at 4:00 PM on August 1, 2007 So much for my line breaks. Don't play with the pre tag, kids.
posted by team lowkey at 4:00 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by team lowkey at 4:00 PM on August 1, 2007
Is MeTa just on a finite ta-
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 4:11 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 4:11 PM on August 1, 2007
Im of the persuasion that doesnt use apostrophes when writing and I dont use them when speaking.
Apostrophes don't come across in speech anyway, unless you subscribe to Borgean phonetic punctuation.
posted by CKmtl at 4:24 PM on August 1, 2007
Apostrophes don't come across in speech anyway, unless you subscribe to Borgean phonetic punctuation.
posted by CKmtl at 4:24 PM on August 1, 2007
mm... the pe loops are sublime.
posted by carsonb at 4:39 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by carsonb at 4:39 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
while 0 != 1
puts 'Is Meta just on an infinite tape loop lately?'
end
posted by djgh at 4:55 PM on August 1, 2007
Every freakin thing I read on MetaFilter is already somewhere on the internet. I'm sick of it.
posted by The Deej at 5:45 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by The Deej at 5:45 PM on August 1, 2007
Every freakin thing I read on the internet is already somewhere on MetaFilter. I'm sick of it.
posted by nevercalm at 6:10 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by nevercalm at 6:10 PM on August 1, 2007
progosk, you did you go to Hunter High in NYC?
Is MeFi the new Facebook?
Might we take this outside, please?
posted by progosk at 6:24 PM on August 1, 2007
Is MeFi the new Facebook?
Might we take this outside, please?
posted by progosk at 6:24 PM on August 1, 2007
I love you all. Especially sub'''x for claiming apostrophes are a persuasion. You just can't make that shit up.
posted by dame at 6:24 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by dame at 6:24 PM on August 1, 2007 [1 favorite]
subaruwrx writes "I still dont understand why 60-70% of MeFi is reposts from Digg. If I read it on Digg, I dont need to read about it on the blue. Sure, many people dont read digg, but lets focus more on the posts that have a point and a topic with several supporting links. "
The best FPPs don't need a passel of supporting links and they generally shouldn't have a point. If you've got a point to make there is all sorts of free blog hosting out there.
posted by Mitheral at 6:33 PM on August 1, 2007
The best FPPs don't need a passel of supporting links and they generally shouldn't have a point. If you've got a point to make there is all sorts of free blog hosting out there.
posted by Mitheral at 6:33 PM on August 1, 2007
So who has the guts to post this link I found on Fark as an FPP? You know, to test quality control. Hint: not me.
posted by The Deej at 7:03 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by The Deej at 7:03 PM on August 1, 2007
Well, it's been on MetaChat with no ill effects, so it might survive. It's the sort of thing I would post with an obscure title and a single word containing the link. You know, because it's not enough to be a weak link, I like to be certain that the format of the post will piss people of regardless of the content.
posted by dg at 8:14 PM on August 1, 2007
posted by dg at 8:14 PM on August 1, 2007
Well, if you want to be particularly non-PC (which I do), you could go for "Flesh-Toned Screen of Death" and maybe link it to a screed about Crayola still making that shade of crayon, but calling it "peach" instead. That would add to the universal appeal, I think.
Oh and, by the way - NSFW warning on the MeCha thread I linked to up there. Better late that never, I guess.
posted by dg at 8:32 PM on August 1, 2007
Oh and, by the way - NSFW warning on the MeCha thread I linked to up there. Better late that never, I guess.
posted by dg at 8:32 PM on August 1, 2007
for my respected mentor, IRFH, Florence Henderson in a risque black bondage outfit;
You just THINK you were posting that for IRFH.
Nurse, cancel all my appointments for the rest of the day. I have a special research case for us to tickle.
Err, I mean tackle.
Hell, that doesn't sound quite right either. Just bring the paddle, ok?
posted by loquacious at 8:32 PM on August 1, 2007
You just THINK you were posting that for IRFH.
Nurse, cancel all my appointments for the rest of the day. I have a special research case for us to tickle.
Err, I mean tackle.
Hell, that doesn't sound quite right either. Just bring the paddle, ok?
posted by loquacious at 8:32 PM on August 1, 2007
The perfect(ly lame) FPP for the BSOD tattoo might go a little something like this:
You probably have an arm. And chances are you are running Windows, so you have no doubt seen the Blue Screen of Death. Apparently, this guy wants to see it every day!
(hahahaaaa hohoooooo heeeee!!!!!!!!)
*sittin' back. waitin' for the favorites to come rollin' in*
posted by The Deej at 8:48 PM on August 1, 2007
You probably have an arm. And chances are you are running Windows, so you have no doubt seen the Blue Screen of Death. Apparently, this guy wants to see it every day!
(hahahaaaa hohoooooo heeeee!!!!!!!!)
*sittin' back. waitin' for the favorites to come rollin' in*
posted by The Deej at 8:48 PM on August 1, 2007
If I read it on Digg, I dont need to read about it on the blue
Like others have said, some of us don't read Digg/BoingBoing/Fark/SlashDot/WhateverOtherSitesApparentlyNamedBy AnIdiot.
Frankly, they don't have enough of those sweet, sweet owl and owl-related posts to make typing their URLs worth it.
I just get so sick of seeing regurgitated material.
Well, quit watching those damn owls, then.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:49 PM on August 1, 2007
Like others have said, some of us don't read Digg/BoingBoing/Fark/SlashDot/WhateverOtherSitesApparentlyNamedBy AnIdiot.
Frankly, they don't have enough of those sweet, sweet owl and owl-related posts to make typing their URLs worth it.
I just get so sick of seeing regurgitated material.
Well, quit watching those damn owls, then.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:49 PM on August 1, 2007
The purpose of MetaFilter, from the wiki:
posted by BitterOldPunk at 8:53 PM on August 1, 2007 [4 favorites]
MetaFilter is a community weblog that consists of member-posted links to interesting and informative content, with the goal of accretively posting such links until the aggregated links on the site asymptotically approach and reflect the Final Page, a mythical website whose content, it is said, contains not only all the information ever generated since God created the universe 6,000 years ago (.pdf) but also pictures of adorable cats. With each IraqFilter FPP, with each gnomic utterance of hama7, with each link that was posted on digg days earlier, MetaFilter comes to resemble more closely that mythical website, and Cthulhu stirs in the sleepless depths.Hope this helps!
posted by BitterOldPunk at 8:53 PM on August 1, 2007 [4 favorites]
Ha! That's what I get. Oh well.
*takes an idiotic bow, shuffles off abashed*
posted by BitterOldPunk at 9:08 PM on August 1, 2007
*takes an idiotic bow, shuffles off abashed*
posted by BitterOldPunk at 9:08 PM on August 1, 2007
Florence Henderson in a risque black bondage outfit
That was just a cruel thing to do. (What on earth was that from?)
posted by dejah420 at 9:16 PM on August 1, 2007
That was just a cruel thing to do. (What on earth was that from?)
posted by dejah420 at 9:16 PM on August 1, 2007
Digg/BoingBoing/Fark/SlashDot/WhateverOtherSitesApparentlyNamedBy AnIdiot.
You forgot sk-rt.
Because apparently typing an "i" is so-o-o-o much harder than typing an '-".
posted by misha at 9:20 PM on August 1, 2007
You forgot sk-rt.
Because apparently typing an "i" is so-o-o-o much harder than typing an '-".
posted by misha at 9:20 PM on August 1, 2007
Does anybody else see the lyrics to that song as being written in all caps?
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP! NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN!
posted by shmegegge at 11:59 PM on August 1, 2007
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP! NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN!
posted by shmegegge at 11:59 PM on August 1, 2007
Florence Henderson in a risque black bondage outfit
That was just a cruel thing to do. (What on earth was that from?)
Elementary, my dear dejah420, it was from the Internet.
posted by Meatbomb at 12:49 AM on August 2, 2007
That was just a cruel thing to do. (What on earth was that from?)
Elementary, my dear dejah420, it was from the Internet.
posted by Meatbomb at 12:49 AM on August 2, 2007
I love you all. Especially sub''x for claiming apostrophes are a persuasion. You just can't make that shit up.
Well, somebody can.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:23 AM on August 2, 2007
Well, somebody can.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:23 AM on August 2, 2007
What are the rules for posting to MeFi?
1. Do not act like a total fucktard.
2. Make sure what you are posting will not aid in MetaFilter's slow transition into Asshattapalooza.
3. Do not post to MeFi.
posted by carsonb at 7:52 AM on August 2, 2007
1. Do not act like a total fucktard.
2. Make sure what you are posting will not aid in MetaFilter's slow transition into Asshattapalooza.
3. Do not post to MeFi.
posted by carsonb at 7:52 AM on August 2, 2007
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posted by flabdablet at 8:09 AM on August 2, 2007
posted by flabdablet at 8:09 AM on August 2, 2007
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posted by boo_radley at 12:22 PM on August 1, 2007 [2 favorites]