Best of the Web, runner-up August 1, 2005 5:29 AM Subscribe
Post any complaints about the contest or any nice compliments here. Be nice little trolls noe!!
Because what Metafilter really needs more of, is self-appointed arbiters of good taste who can tell us plebs what the 'Best Of The Web' actually is.
posted by veedubya at 5:35 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by veedubya at 5:35 AM on August 1, 2005
A shame P_G's thread was posted yesterday.
posted by NinjaPirate at 5:43 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by NinjaPirate at 5:43 AM on August 1, 2005
What's to troll? The day is off to a beautiful and talented start.
posted by OmieWise at 5:47 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by OmieWise at 5:47 AM on August 1, 2005
P_G made an FPP mocking Shouting's dead wife, followed by a MeTa thread which was also deleted. If that isn't grounds for permabannation, I don't know what is.
posted by dhoyt at 6:15 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by dhoyt at 6:15 AM on August 1, 2005
Oh, that one. Yeah, Worst Of The Web, and us.
Well said.
posted by pookzilla at 6:50 AM on August 1, 2005
Well said.
posted by pookzilla at 6:50 AM on August 1, 2005
I'm not sure why the Pretty_Generic post was brought up here..
I'd just like to thank anastasiav again for this gesture. Stirring up people to bring good links to the table is what it's all about. And OmieWise, yeah, there's some choice stuff already.
posted by peacay at 7:14 AM on August 1, 2005
I'd just like to thank anastasiav again for this gesture. Stirring up people to bring good links to the table is what it's all about. And OmieWise, yeah, there's some choice stuff already.
posted by peacay at 7:14 AM on August 1, 2005
Yeah, Worst Of The Web, and us.
Well, yes, it was, but... It's not so cut and dried. In the now deleted MetaTalk thread, Shouting, in his melt down at the end of the thread, was the first to raise the topic of mocking his dead wife first and more than once at that--as if he were daring anyone to do something he could interpet as an attack on his wife. Pretty_Generic, intentionally or not, rose to the bait by linking to to a clip of Shouting and his wife singing thereafter. The MetaTalk thread piling on Shouting and the Shouting's dare at the end came first. Pretty_Generic's link of the clip came second.
And, upon review, what peacay said.
posted by y2karl at 7:38 AM on August 1, 2005
Well, yes, it was, but... It's not so cut and dried. In the now deleted MetaTalk thread, Shouting, in his melt down at the end of the thread, was the first to raise the topic of mocking his dead wife first and more than once at that--as if he were daring anyone to do something he could interpet as an attack on his wife. Pretty_Generic, intentionally or not, rose to the bait by linking to to a clip of Shouting and his wife singing thereafter. The MetaTalk thread piling on Shouting and the Shouting's dare at the end came first. Pretty_Generic's link of the clip came second.
And, upon review, what peacay said.
posted by y2karl at 7:38 AM on August 1, 2005
Seems pretty cut and dried from here. Permabannate the fat phuck.
posted by the cuban at 7:43 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by the cuban at 7:43 AM on August 1, 2005
y2karl once again brings us the story behind the story. Pretty_Generic is a valued member of this community who has made more contributions than most, and should be treated with some lenience.
Now back on topic, I think this is a great contest, and I'm really looking forward to today's links.
posted by grouse at 7:47 AM on August 1, 2005
Now back on topic, I think this is a great contest, and I'm really looking forward to today's links.
posted by grouse at 7:47 AM on August 1, 2005
P_G is a man of excellent merits, but he did go just a little crazy last night. Not just with the link but with all of his "emitting-a-loud-cry"-related comments.
By his complete silence today, he may be too embarrassed to say hello (which is unlikely) or Matt's letting the steam out for a while. I look forward to his return, because although his contribution to last night was spectacular in it's lack of humanity, it was also a bizarre aberration.
peacay: I mentioned it in this thread as an intentional side-pot because it was a staggering post, albeit in the worst possible way, and also because the thread is somewhat pointless anyway. I look forward to any serious attempts on the summit, but this page isn't going to sway anyone of significance.
posted by NinjaPirate at 8:08 AM on August 1, 2005
By his complete silence today, he may be too embarrassed to say hello (which is unlikely) or Matt's letting the steam out for a while. I look forward to his return, because although his contribution to last night was spectacular in it's lack of humanity, it was also a bizarre aberration.
peacay: I mentioned it in this thread as an intentional side-pot because it was a staggering post, albeit in the worst possible way, and also because the thread is somewhat pointless anyway. I look forward to any serious attempts on the summit, but this page isn't going to sway anyone of significance.
posted by NinjaPirate at 8:08 AM on August 1, 2005
karl, the original Shouting-troll MetaTalk thread wasn't deleted.
posted by gramschmidt at 8:32 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by gramschmidt at 8:32 AM on August 1, 2005
Maybe we (me included) need the big tag to get back on topic:
GREAT CONTEST IDEA,
ANASTASIAV! I'M
LOOKING FORWARD
TO THE RESULTS!
HUZZAH!
posted by gramschmidt at 8:35 AM on August 1, 2005
GREAT CONTEST IDEA,
ANASTASIAV! I'M
LOOKING FORWARD
TO THE RESULTS!
HUZZAH!
posted by gramschmidt at 8:35 AM on August 1, 2005
karl, the original Shouting-troll MetaTalk thread wasn't deleted.
(Dunno if you were addressing me, or y2karl).
In any case, right after P_G's deadwife-mocking FPP, Rothko started a MeTa thread acknowledging P_G had gone way over the line, but that thread was mysteriously deleted within ten minutes. I think you thought I was referring to the other mega-MeTa thread about Shouting's trolling.
And....great idea anastasiav!
posted by dhoyt at 9:02 AM on August 1, 2005
(Dunno if you were addressing me, or y2karl).
In any case, right after P_G's deadwife-mocking FPP, Rothko started a MeTa thread acknowledging P_G had gone way over the line, but that thread was mysteriously deleted within ten minutes. I think you thought I was referring to the other mega-MeTa thread about Shouting's trolling.
And....great idea anastasiav!
posted by dhoyt at 9:02 AM on August 1, 2005
Once a while back when I was wayyy too into MetaTalk and bitching it up beyond even my own tolerance levels, I imposed a cooling off period on myself of one week where I was not allowed to visit MeTa, and where I had to post to the Blue every day. It was a good exercise to remind myself that Blue is the most important color here. I think this contest is in that same spirit.
posted by scarabic at 9:07 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by scarabic at 9:07 AM on August 1, 2005
Oh and Pretty_Generic made my favorite post ever, so give him a Fing break.
posted by scarabic at 9:11 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by scarabic at 9:11 AM on August 1, 2005
This is working extremely well, great posts today anastasiav, and THANKS!!!
posted by jonson at 9:22 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by jonson at 9:22 AM on August 1, 2005
the original Shouting-troll MetaTalk thread wasn't deleted.
Well, OK then:
Who will be the first to post a vicious, racist remark about my deceased wife?
That's about the only question now, isn't it?
C'mon vicious children. Show us you worst.
posted by Shouting at 12:47 PM PST on July 31 [!]
....Shouting, I'd suggest you take a breather and post comments that are on topic and about the topic. And to everyone else, I'd ask you to do the same. There's no reason to mock or provoke other users on the site.
posted by mathowie at 3:13 PM PST on July 31 [!]
but in the meantime....
Professor of the Blues "Shouting Thomas" and his late wife Myrna are Wild About That Thing![Flash]
posted by Pretty_Generic at 3:09 PM PST
Was P_G.s intent to mock Shouting, self described as 'The Professor Of The Blues' by linking to a video music clip of less than stellar quality ? That seems clear. Was it tacky to post the clip ? God, yes. Was it intended to be first and foremost to an attack on his wife ? That is not clear at all. To claim so is to read much into very liittle and assume the very worst of P_G.
P_G's post's thread was closed by Matt around 4 PM with the comment 'It Ends Here'. Ah, if only...
Shall we post comments that are on topic and about the topic as much as possible in threads gray or blue from now on, then ? Well, I'll certainly try to do my part.
posted by y2karl at 9:40 AM on August 1, 2005
Well, OK then:
Who will be the first to post a vicious, racist remark about my deceased wife?
That's about the only question now, isn't it?
C'mon vicious children. Show us you worst.
posted by Shouting at 12:47 PM PST on July 31 [!]
....Shouting, I'd suggest you take a breather and post comments that are on topic and about the topic. And to everyone else, I'd ask you to do the same. There's no reason to mock or provoke other users on the site.
posted by mathowie at 3:13 PM PST on July 31 [!]
but in the meantime....
Professor of the Blues "Shouting Thomas" and his late wife Myrna are Wild About That Thing![Flash]
posted by Pretty_Generic at 3:09 PM PST
Was P_G.s intent to mock Shouting, self described as 'The Professor Of The Blues' by linking to a video music clip of less than stellar quality ? That seems clear. Was it tacky to post the clip ? God, yes. Was it intended to be first and foremost to an attack on his wife ? That is not clear at all. To claim so is to read much into very liittle and assume the very worst of P_G.
P_G's post's thread was closed by Matt around 4 PM with the comment 'It Ends Here'. Ah, if only...
Shall we post comments that are on topic and about the topic as much as possible in threads gray or blue from now on, then ? Well, I'll certainly try to do my part.
posted by y2karl at 9:40 AM on August 1, 2005
dhoyt : "that thread was mysteriously deleted within ten minutes"
You have a low threshold for "mystery".
posted by Bugbread at 9:43 AM on August 1, 2005
You have a low threshold for "mystery".
posted by Bugbread at 9:43 AM on August 1, 2005
My contribution in that thread was deleted by the Gods, then the thread was deleted by the Gods. Double-damnation! I'd post my original comment here, but I know it would just be deleted again. I bet jessamyn didn't even get the joke.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 9:52 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 9:52 AM on August 1, 2005
Was it intended to be first and foremost to an attack on his wife ? That is not clear at all.
I'm not going to get into another rabbit-torture-scale debate about this, but I think you may find yourself in the minority on this opinion, and the fact that threads were deleted doesn't help this position, either.
posted by Rothko at 10:23 AM on August 1, 2005
I'm not going to get into another rabbit-torture-scale debate about this, but I think you may find yourself in the minority on this opinion, and the fact that threads were deleted doesn't help this position, either.
posted by Rothko at 10:23 AM on August 1, 2005
MeFi's looking great today.
posted by mediareport at 10:26 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by mediareport at 10:26 AM on August 1, 2005
Nice idea, anastasiav - I am all for more positive and less negative reinforcement. Yay for you for being positive. Comes at a good time too - I am happy to have something that reminds me of the *good* part of mefi, because a lot that went on here yesterday really left a bad taste and gave me pause. Ugly stuff.
posted by madamjujujive at 10:41 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by madamjujujive at 10:41 AM on August 1, 2005
...because a lot that went on here yesterday really left a bad taste and gave me pause. Ugly stuff.
today too, but now finally there's a timeout, so it'll stop for at least a little while.
posted by amberglow at 11:07 AM on August 1, 2005
today too, but now finally there's a timeout, so it'll stop for at least a little while.
posted by amberglow at 11:07 AM on August 1, 2005
so, ana, are you looking for input on this, or should we not suggest anything? /un-derailing
posted by amberglow at 11:10 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by amberglow at 11:10 AM on August 1, 2005
I gotta say amberglow... you're the biggest tattle-tale, whining little spineless, thin-skinned pussy of the whole lot. You take every opportunity to scramble into a thread just to report to everyone what someone else is saying to you in another thread. You're pathetic and I don't have any problem saying so... name-calling, etc. be damned. How do you manage to be involved in so many cases that result in the OTHER "guy" getting a timeout (assuming Shouting really has been given a timeout)? You are so babied around here. You're disgusting. /re-un-derail
posted by Necker at 11:55 AM on August 1, 2005
posted by Necker at 11:55 AM on August 1, 2005
The only good thing about some of the comments in this thread is that there isn't very much else that one can post at this point that will bring the level of discourse down much further.
posted by leftcoastbob at 12:28 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by leftcoastbob at 12:28 PM on August 1, 2005
How about I recite some selections from Vogon Poetry?
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon
See if I don't.
posted by selfnoise at 12:31 PM on August 1, 2005
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits
On a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
And hooptiously drangle me
with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon
See if I don't.
posted by selfnoise at 12:31 PM on August 1, 2005
Here's hoping Matt follows a consistent policy and bans Necker for a week.
posted by Rothko at 12:32 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by Rothko at 12:32 PM on August 1, 2005
Gashee morphousite, thou expungiest quoopisk!
Fripping lyshus wimbgunts, awhilst moongrovenly kormzibs.
Bleem miserable venchit! Bleem forever mestinglish asunder frapt!
Gerond withoutitude form into formless bloit, why not then? Moose.
posted by selfnoise at 12:34 PM on August 1, 2005
Fripping lyshus wimbgunts, awhilst moongrovenly kormzibs.
Bleem miserable venchit! Bleem forever mestinglish asunder frapt!
Gerond withoutitude form into formless bloit, why not then? Moose.
posted by selfnoise at 12:34 PM on August 1, 2005
Rothko, if I had to be perfectly consistent, I'd have to lose just about everyone that begins their comment with "oh dios, you..." and "Paris, you are such a..." which IIRC, would include bannation for quite a number of folks (you included).
I'd like it if all comments posted to metafilter were about topics, and not people. That's where Shouting has gone way wrong, by using his last comments to just unload on another user.
I'd rather this whole ugly episode went away and we could get back on track (this metatalk post is horribly worded, with a troll/shouting rider tacked on): Today is the best of the web day, and the posts are fantastic.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:39 PM on August 1, 2005
I'd like it if all comments posted to metafilter were about topics, and not people. That's where Shouting has gone way wrong, by using his last comments to just unload on another user.
I'd rather this whole ugly episode went away and we could get back on track (this metatalk post is horribly worded, with a troll/shouting rider tacked on): Today is the best of the web day, and the posts are fantastic.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:39 PM on August 1, 2005
(assuming Shouting really has been given a timeout)
Shouting has *not* been given a timeout. Matt simply suggested he chill for a bit, but Shouting has posted since then.
posted by mediareport at 12:39 PM on August 1, 2005
Shouting has *not* been given a timeout. Matt simply suggested he chill for a bit, but Shouting has posted since then.
posted by mediareport at 12:39 PM on August 1, 2005
Necker: shouldn't you take that to MeT- ah never mind.
What I find more interesting that the, well, interesting links today are the few usual newsfilter ones. They stick out like a [cliche] and I hope that's a trend that continues.
posted by hugsnkisses at 12:42 PM on August 1, 2005
What I find more interesting that the, well, interesting links today are the few usual newsfilter ones. They stick out like a [cliche] and I hope that's a trend that continues.
posted by hugsnkisses at 12:42 PM on August 1, 2005
mathowie : "[I]f I had to be perfectly consistent, I'd have to lose just about everyone that begins their comment with 'oh dios, you...' and 'Paris, you are such a...' which IIRC, would include bannation for quite a number of folks..."
(Mathowie, don't taunt me so! It's like someone saying "I could give you this delicious ice cream, if I felt like it, but then I'd have to give you all my money, too")
posted by Bugbread at 12:47 PM on August 1, 2005
(Mathowie, don't taunt me so! It's like someone saying "I could give you this delicious ice cream, if I felt like it, but then I'd have to give you all my money, too")
posted by Bugbread at 12:47 PM on August 1, 2005
[matt suggested he chill, and he did not chill. timeout started here.]
posted by jessamyn at 12:48 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by jessamyn at 12:48 PM on August 1, 2005
Rothko, if I had to be perfectly consistent, I'd have to lose just about everyone that begins their comment with "oh dios, you..." and "Paris, you are such a..." which IIRC, would include bannation for quite a number of folks (you included).
Really, Matt? I go after these two people with unprovoked personal shit like this? That's news to me.
posted by Rothko at 1:00 PM on August 1, 2005
Really, Matt? I go after these two people with unprovoked personal shit like this? That's news to me.
posted by Rothko at 1:00 PM on August 1, 2005
There is such a mountain of material that has appeared since I last closed my browser. I may have to take a day off life in order to find out what's what.
anastasiav - you've got yourself a job here, girl!
posted by NinjaPirate at 1:14 PM on August 1, 2005
anastasiav - you've got yourself a job here, girl!
posted by NinjaPirate at 1:14 PM on August 1, 2005
One thing I'm seeing today (and a wonderful day it is!) are quite a few doubles (and a quadruple!).
Is this just because I'm paying closer attention, or are there really more?
posted by frykitty at 1:56 PM on August 1, 2005
Is this just because I'm paying closer attention, or are there really more?
posted by frykitty at 1:56 PM on August 1, 2005
Is there some reason my RSS reader isn't picking up anything new for today? I'd been thinking it was a total bust all day!
Shit. Now I have to spend all EVENING reading MetaFilter, too.
posted by absalom at 2:55 PM on August 1, 2005
Shit. Now I have to spend all EVENING reading MetaFilter, too.
posted by absalom at 2:55 PM on August 1, 2005
The feed should be fixed now, someone inserted a wacky unicode character that broke the xml feed.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:03 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:03 PM on August 1, 2005
Would that every day, people posted as if they might get a prize. Maybe we could implement that instead of paying Mathowie's mortgage.
posted by crunchland at 3:14 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by crunchland at 3:14 PM on August 1, 2005
Wow. *47* posts. I almost wish it wasn't fixed. I don't envy anastaisav right now.
posted by absalom at 4:51 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by absalom at 4:51 PM on August 1, 2005
Man, Anistasiav, I've got too much to read today, thanks to you. Can't you make it, like, a week long contest next time?
posted by klangklangston at 5:03 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by klangklangston at 5:03 PM on August 1, 2005
We have a winner !
Oops, sarge, there was a tiny typo in your hyperlink. Here, I've fixed it.
posted by soyjoy at 8:22 PM on August 1, 2005
Oops, sarge, there was a tiny typo in your hyperlink. Here, I've fixed it.
posted by soyjoy at 8:22 PM on August 1, 2005
Now that the day is over, I really liked this library post, and also the build your own cathedral post.
posted by caddis at 9:06 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by caddis at 9:06 PM on August 1, 2005
I only decided to post something at the last minute, mostly so I could be associated with the so many fine, fine posts that were up there (like crashing a VIP party)
posted by vacapinta at 9:56 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by vacapinta at 9:56 PM on August 1, 2005
(i'm rooting for the real My Life as a Fake guy, or Sgt in Hull, of course)
posted by amberglow at 10:03 PM on August 1, 2005
posted by amberglow at 10:03 PM on August 1, 2005
Hmmm. I think I meant this build your own cathedral post.
posted by caddis at 6:57 AM on August 2, 2005
posted by caddis at 6:57 AM on August 2, 2005
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posted by wheelieman at 5:30 AM on August 1, 2005