"here's my favorite recipe" for snark on rye October 12, 2003 9:31 AM Subscribe
Please tell me that "here's my favorite recipe" FPP's are not going to become a habit.
I hope not.
posted by deadcowdan at 9:39 AM on October 12, 2003
posted by deadcowdan at 9:39 AM on October 12, 2003
Considering I don't really cook, I move we castrate and stab people who post recipes.
posted by angry modem at 9:49 AM on October 12, 2003
posted by angry modem at 9:49 AM on October 12, 2003
You got here before me, beth, so this is a much less scathing callout than it might have been. For me, the annoyance factor is huge; this is a deliberately screw-the-rules post by a poster who's been around long enough to know better. Miguel pushes the limits, but at least he has the class to link to "something interesting on the web" before getting to his real goal, which is "what kind of cocktail/biscuit/hotel do you like?" Linking to a promo for
The Joy of Cooking is downright insulting (and the fact that it's the crappy new edition just makes it worse). I hope Matt doesn't spare the thread just because people have put recipes in it. Bad, bad fff!
posted by languagehat at 9:51 AM on October 12, 2003
The Joy of Cooking is downright insulting (and the fact that it's the crappy new edition just makes it worse). I hope Matt doesn't spare the thread just because people have put recipes in it. Bad, bad fff!
posted by languagehat at 9:51 AM on October 12, 2003
Castrate and Stab? Now I know where the Angry comes from Angry!
posted by mattr at 10:18 AM on October 12, 2003
posted by mattr at 10:18 AM on October 12, 2003
I hope Matt doesn't spare the thread just because people have put recipes in it.I disagree. It is a week post, but, for whatever reason, it succeeded in generating good discussion, which, at least to me, makes up (partially) for a weak fpp. Deleting it now would be wasteful.
Posts like this should be nipped in the bud. But once they've grown past that early stage, deleting them is counter-productive. fff does deserve some time in the corner, however, and I trust he won't do it again.
posted by kickingtheground at 10:19 AM on October 12, 2003
My annoyance with the post is that fff used MetaFilter as his own blog. Using a crappy 'The Joy of Cooking' link to fulfill the FPP link guideline and then essentially writing a blog entry in the comments.
Its a self link without the link, I encourage it's deletion.
posted by DBAPaul at 10:38 AM on October 12, 2003
Its a self link without the link, I encourage it's deletion.
posted by DBAPaul at 10:38 AM on October 12, 2003
You've got to let stuff like this slip through sometimes;
in this case, I made a couple fun rhymes.
posted by troybob at 11:10 AM on October 12, 2003
in this case, I made a couple fun rhymes.
posted by troybob at 11:10 AM on October 12, 2003
Oh, it'll never happen again.
One of my fall traditions, before I fall into the dark blue funk of expletive-deleted winter, is to make a whole bunch of pumpkin pies to give away to the people I love. It's my way of saying thanks to those who have supported me through the year.
This year, MetaFilter made the grade. But it's not practical to ship a few hundred pies off to all you great people who make this such a damn fine place.
So the only practical way to share with you was to post the recipe. It's my gift of thanks to MetaFilter, done in the most generous possible spirit.
My hope is that everyone gives the recipe a try. You really can't go very wrong with it. The pie is stunningly delicious. Your friends and family will rave. And yet it's so simple, so easy, so low-key. Well worth the effort.
As for the magnitude of my sin, let's see what else was posted that day:
- ooh, a bucket of water for sale
- esquire magazine stories of limited interest.
- domokun for the umpteenth time.
- mandalas that no one cared about.
- Yet More Arnie, Yawn Sigh.
- what appear to be a half-dozen Bush-bashing stories, how exciting that.
- and so on.
The day had already gone to the dogs. My contribution, if anything, improved the day: it certainly had more responses than most of the other posts. And we now have a nice cranberry recipe. (I just wish we'd ended up with a few more good thanksgiving recipes.)
And now, like little Jack Horner, I'll go sit in my corner.
Enjoy your pies, y'all.
posted by five fresh fish at 11:14 AM on October 12, 2003
One of my fall traditions, before I fall into the dark blue funk of expletive-deleted winter, is to make a whole bunch of pumpkin pies to give away to the people I love. It's my way of saying thanks to those who have supported me through the year.
This year, MetaFilter made the grade. But it's not practical to ship a few hundred pies off to all you great people who make this such a damn fine place.
So the only practical way to share with you was to post the recipe. It's my gift of thanks to MetaFilter, done in the most generous possible spirit.
My hope is that everyone gives the recipe a try. You really can't go very wrong with it. The pie is stunningly delicious. Your friends and family will rave. And yet it's so simple, so easy, so low-key. Well worth the effort.
As for the magnitude of my sin, let's see what else was posted that day:
- ooh, a bucket of water for sale
- esquire magazine stories of limited interest.
- domokun for the umpteenth time.
- mandalas that no one cared about.
- Yet More Arnie, Yawn Sigh.
- what appear to be a half-dozen Bush-bashing stories, how exciting that.
- and so on.
The day had already gone to the dogs. My contribution, if anything, improved the day: it certainly had more responses than most of the other posts. And we now have a nice cranberry recipe. (I just wish we'd ended up with a few more good thanksgiving recipes.)
And now, like little Jack Horner, I'll go sit in my corner.
Enjoy your pies, y'all.
posted by five fresh fish at 11:14 AM on October 12, 2003
(er. I was also imbibing of the rum that went into the pie. That undoubtedly played a large part in my inability to find good links to beef up the FPP. MetaFilter: Don't Drink and Post.
posted by five fresh fish at 11:16 AM on October 12, 2003
posted by five fresh fish at 11:16 AM on October 12, 2003
fff..for my part, I know I'm going to try
to make that delicious-sounding pumpkin pie.
posted by troybob at 11:25 AM on October 12, 2003
to make that delicious-sounding pumpkin pie.
posted by troybob at 11:25 AM on October 12, 2003
(As for posting drunk, I'd say there's nothing wrong;
I've often jumped into a post after hitting the bong.)
posted by troybob at 11:29 AM on October 12, 2003
I've often jumped into a post after hitting the bong.)
posted by troybob at 11:29 AM on October 12, 2003
Hey, fff - you don't need to defend your post by putting down mine, do you? Don't you think the pain of getting only one positive comment and two "hated it" is bad enough?
posted by taz at 11:39 AM on October 12, 2003
posted by taz at 11:39 AM on October 12, 2003
Fanny Farmer? Sounds like a mound that needs tilling... [blink]
Sorry, taz, no slight intended. I didn't look at authors and for most of them I hadn't looked at comments either.
Here, have a pie, sweetie. :-)
posted by five fresh fish at 12:01 PM on October 12, 2003
Sorry, taz, no slight intended. I didn't look at authors and for most of them I hadn't looked at comments either.
Here, have a pie, sweetie. :-)
posted by five fresh fish at 12:01 PM on October 12, 2003
I've pretty much decided that troybob is, in fact, Wheelie. This is disturbing.
posted by furiousthought at 12:12 PM on October 12, 2003
posted by furiousthought at 12:12 PM on October 12, 2003
Is there an Atkins-compatible version of this recipe?
posted by billsaysthis at 12:14 PM on October 12, 2003
posted by billsaysthis at 12:14 PM on October 12, 2003
To pepper your posts with rhymes- that's his job
spreading fun & wit, it's our very own troybob!
posted by dash_slot- at 12:22 PM on October 12, 2003
spreading fun & wit, it's our very own troybob!
posted by dash_slot- at 12:22 PM on October 12, 2003
fanny farmer ? oooarrrr !!
posted by sgt.serenity at 12:59 PM on October 12, 2003
posted by sgt.serenity at 12:59 PM on October 12, 2003
thanks for the link, taz- now THAT would have been front post worthy.
posted by konolia at 1:18 PM on October 12, 2003
posted by konolia at 1:18 PM on October 12, 2003
I dunno... I like the occasional recipe thread. They shouldn't be too regular; maybe best as a MeTa thing? The recipe sites online are all crap; a good recipe needs a proper transmission in order to be appreciated. "Jake's Recipe Hullaballoo" isn't really a proper way to look for them, in my opinion. MeFi, on the other hand, is a community I've been (quietly) involved in for a couple of years now, and recipes I see on here do have that community connection that you don't find on a random cooking site.
just my two cents.
posted by kaibutsu at 1:19 PM on October 12, 2003
just my two cents.
posted by kaibutsu at 1:19 PM on October 12, 2003
OK, five fresh fish, you ol' rummy,
since you're drunk and being chummy
I'll forgive your posting crimes
for the sake of troybob's rhymes.
Once in Ireland I got smashed,
and when I shtumbled home at lasht
my landlord, wakened from his rest,
just laughed and helped his sodden guest
indoors, upstairs, and into bed.
When I awaked, I groaned and said
"If ever I should have the chance
to pass along this tolerance,
I'll do it." Now the time has come,
so go, and sin no more, old chum!
(On preview: Take your two cents back,
kaibutsu—you've been smoking crack!
This site's for good stuff found online.
Discussion topics aren't fine.)
posted by languagehat at 1:25 PM on October 12, 2003
since you're drunk and being chummy
I'll forgive your posting crimes
for the sake of troybob's rhymes.
Once in Ireland I got smashed,
and when I shtumbled home at lasht
my landlord, wakened from his rest,
just laughed and helped his sodden guest
indoors, upstairs, and into bed.
When I awaked, I groaned and said
"If ever I should have the chance
to pass along this tolerance,
I'll do it." Now the time has come,
so go, and sin no more, old chum!
(On preview: Take your two cents back,
kaibutsu—you've been smoking crack!
This site's for good stuff found online.
Discussion topics aren't fine.)
posted by languagehat at 1:25 PM on October 12, 2003
[looks askance at fff's trashing of his domokun post]
Hey, I didn't know anything about domokun beyond the whole kitty thing until I accidentally found it at JList. And I certainly didn't know about the animated shorts, which are a great laugh. Perhaps you should add to your list of boring things posted that day:
- pumpkin recipes that no-one cares about
Just because you feel that the day's posts have been bad doesn't give you the excuse for you to post a link that you know isn't suitable. And there's already been a thread on MeTa about how number of comments isn't indicative of post quality.
posted by adrianhon at 1:30 PM on October 12, 2003
Hey, I didn't know anything about domokun beyond the whole kitty thing until I accidentally found it at JList. And I certainly didn't know about the animated shorts, which are a great laugh. Perhaps you should add to your list of boring things posted that day:
- pumpkin recipes that no-one cares about
Just because you feel that the day's posts have been bad doesn't give you the excuse for you to post a link that you know isn't suitable. And there's already been a thread on MeTa about how number of comments isn't indicative of post quality.
posted by adrianhon at 1:30 PM on October 12, 2003
Across these pages my clumsy rhymes I'll plaster,
but I'll surely never match the language master!
posted by troybob at 1:33 PM on October 12, 2003
but I'll surely never match the language master!
posted by troybob at 1:33 PM on October 12, 2003
For some strange reason--if I knew I would tell
--adrianhon's post here has me ROFL!!!
posted by troybob at 1:39 PM on October 12, 2003
--adrianhon's post here has me ROFL!!!
posted by troybob at 1:39 PM on October 12, 2003
Don't you think the pain of getting only one positive comment and two "hated it" is bad enough?
But yer userpage is so darn purty!
posted by rushmc at 1:55 PM on October 12, 2003
But yer userpage is so darn purty!
posted by rushmc at 1:55 PM on October 12, 2003
Agreed, linking to the modern JOC maybe akin to treason for real cooks...but I, personally, didn't mind the post, thought it sounded yummy and will probably give it a try this week.
I thought the post was a nice break from newsfilter. :)
posted by dejah420 at 2:12 PM on October 12, 2003
I thought the post was a nice break from newsfilter. :)
posted by dejah420 at 2:12 PM on October 12, 2003
Good lord, taz, why haven't I been to your user page in what is obviously too long? It's rocketed to the top of my Favorite User Page list. I particularly like this tidbit:
posted by languagehat at 2:52 PM on October 12, 2003
My late ex-grandmother-in-law also called every woman who dated or married one of her sons or grandsons "Trixie". It saved her from trying to remember all their names.But I also particularly like all the rest. And I can't remember my first memory either.
posted by languagehat at 2:52 PM on October 12, 2003
fff: The day had already gone to the dogs. My contribution, if anything, improved the day: it certainly had more responses than most of the other posts. And we now have a nice cranberry recipe. (I just wish we'd ended up with a few more good thanksgiving recipes.)
Bzzzt! Sorry, fff, but you don't get to just shove an anal probe up the rules every time you decide the day doesn't have enough posts to keep your little world interesting... Lame posts are lame posts, with or without whipped cream topping.
posted by JollyWanker at 4:04 PM on October 12, 2003
Bzzzt! Sorry, fff, but you don't get to just shove an anal probe up the rules every time you decide the day doesn't have enough posts to keep your little world interesting... Lame posts are lame posts, with or without whipped cream topping.
posted by JollyWanker at 4:04 PM on October 12, 2003
Bzzzt! Sorry, fff, but you don't get to just shove an anal probe up the rules every time you decide the day doesn't have enough posts to keep your little world interesting...
Sure he does. You do too. And I do. And everybody else does. And then we go to MeTa if we don't like it and then we bitch about it and then the Great Hand of Matt does as it wills. Furthermore, I really like FFF's reasoning for his actions. Giving thanks is a [good thing] and the way he chose to do it was nice, tho perhaps more appropriate for MeTa, but oh well.
posted by ashbury at 6:34 PM on October 12, 2003
Sure he does. You do too. And I do. And everybody else does. And then we go to MeTa if we don't like it and then we bitch about it and then the Great Hand of Matt does as it wills. Furthermore, I really like FFF's reasoning for his actions. Giving thanks is a [good thing] and the way he chose to do it was nice, tho perhaps more appropriate for MeTa, but oh well.
posted by ashbury at 6:34 PM on October 12, 2003
I predict: if the semi-legendary rock singer Meat Loaf should pull a Robert Palmer and drop dead, the next day, MeFi will have a thread full of meatloaf recipes.
<falsetto>In the Year Two-Thousand... And Ten...</falsetto>
posted by wendell at 11:04 PM on October 12, 2003
<falsetto>In the Year Two-Thousand... And Ten...</falsetto>
posted by wendell at 11:04 PM on October 12, 2003
let me sleep on it.
i'll give you an answer in the morning.
posted by quonsar at 12:45 AM on October 13, 2003
i'll give you an answer in the morning.
posted by quonsar at 12:45 AM on October 13, 2003
I though five fresh fish's gesture was really nice - his recipe is so tempting I'm sure a lot of us will try it and be grateful - and, although he only provided a fluff link, which is against the guidelines (as no one could deem it interesting), there really was something exceptional and generous about the sentiment. Paradoxically, it was the most unselfish of self-links. The resulting thread was also highly interesting.
I plead it's an exception to the rule and hope Matt doesn't delete it. At least till some of us have tried the recipe. If it stinks, by all means place in a stockade and pelt him with tins of pseudo-pumpkin. :)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:55 AM on October 13, 2003
I plead it's an exception to the rule and hope Matt doesn't delete it. At least till some of us have tried the recipe. If it stinks, by all means place in a stockade and pelt him with tins of pseudo-pumpkin. :)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:55 AM on October 13, 2003
pelt? did you say pelt?
gondola smock harpoon pelt. i like it.
posted by quonsar at 1:11 AM on October 13, 2003
gondola smock harpoon pelt. i like it.
posted by quonsar at 1:11 AM on October 13, 2003
We learned how to stay regular, courtesy of Razzle Bathbone's cat. [canned pumpkin, for those who skipped that]
Blame it on whywhywhy666, it started with a recipe for disaster. Not once but twice! Then tempered with Chicken & Goat Cheese Flautas, pleaded to get a rise from the onlookers, to no avail. Some one else thought imitation was a form of flattery and suggested a pie after that meal. Not to be outdone, whywhywhy666 hit us with Garlic Pecan Fried Chicken followed by yet another dessert, Cool Lime Pie with Tequila. It was a Thanksgiving feast!
I think FFF's squash pie recipe is great! It's autumn and time to cocoon! Do all the topics on the FFP have to interest absolutley everyone? Not interested? On your bike then.
Everything is up for discussion, except whatever is on sale at eBay, unless it's water and Madonna bathed in it, at least!
Time to throw some of those rules out, I say [except the double post ones!] HA!
What's with the running to MeTa over every single thing? Too many cry babies. Have a cigar.
I'm starting to think I'm in some kind of class. Torts.
posted by alicesshoe at 1:15 AM on October 13, 2003
Blame it on whywhywhy666, it started with a recipe for disaster. Not once but twice! Then tempered with Chicken & Goat Cheese Flautas, pleaded to get a rise from the onlookers, to no avail. Some one else thought imitation was a form of flattery and suggested a pie after that meal. Not to be outdone, whywhywhy666 hit us with Garlic Pecan Fried Chicken followed by yet another dessert, Cool Lime Pie with Tequila. It was a Thanksgiving feast!
I think FFF's squash pie recipe is great! It's autumn and time to cocoon! Do all the topics on the FFP have to interest absolutley everyone? Not interested? On your bike then.
Everything is up for discussion, except whatever is on sale at eBay, unless it's water and Madonna bathed in it, at least!
Time to throw some of those rules out, I say [except the double post ones!] HA!
What's with the running to MeTa over every single thing? Too many cry babies. Have a cigar.
I'm starting to think I'm in some kind of class. Torts.
posted by alicesshoe at 1:15 AM on October 13, 2003
What a pile of shite.
Upset with the local kids littering the streets? The go and lay a great steaming turd in the middle of the road outside your house - that'll teach 'em!
I have no problem with anyone posting recipes but this was lamer than a legless donkey.
Matt shouldn't delete the post - he should turn the server off for a week.
posted by i_cola at 3:47 AM on October 13, 2003
Upset with the local kids littering the streets? The go and lay a great steaming turd in the middle of the road outside your house - that'll teach 'em!
I have no problem with anyone posting recipes but this was lamer than a legless donkey.
Matt shouldn't delete the post - he should turn the server off for a week.
posted by i_cola at 3:47 AM on October 13, 2003
I dunno, i_ cola-do we really want this crew wandering the streets for a week? It could be dangerous.
posted by konolia at 4:04 AM on October 13, 2003
posted by konolia at 4:04 AM on October 13, 2003
hmm...good point. I have visions of something akin to a post-nuclear fallout situation. With lots of poo...
posted by i_cola at 6:12 AM on October 13, 2003
posted by i_cola at 6:12 AM on October 13, 2003
I can't believe anyone would eat pumpkin pie and pretend they like it.
I mean, regular pies (i.e. dogfood, gristle and a load of abbatoir floor sweepings mixed with pepper) are pretty unpleasant, but pumpkin?
That's just disgusting.
posted by backOfYourMind at 7:43 AM on October 13, 2003
I mean, regular pies (i.e. dogfood, gristle and a load of abbatoir floor sweepings mixed with pepper) are pretty unpleasant, but pumpkin?
That's just disgusting.
posted by backOfYourMind at 7:43 AM on October 13, 2003
OMG. I missed the Tequila Lime Pie recipe. That's going to the top of the list of Pies To Do.
Listen up, whiners:
Do I make a habit of posting rule-breaking FPPs? No. Am I likely to post more rule-breaking FPPs? No.
It was a once-in-a-lifetime occurence. Get over yourselves already, and save your vitriole for the people who habitually post shiate.
I did what I did very purposefully, as I explained.
Happy Thanksgiving weekend, everyone.
posted by five fresh fish at 9:46 AM on October 13, 2003
Listen up, whiners:
Do I make a habit of posting rule-breaking FPPs? No. Am I likely to post more rule-breaking FPPs? No.
It was a once-in-a-lifetime occurence. Get over yourselves already, and save your vitriole for the people who habitually post shiate.
I did what I did very purposefully, as I explained.
Happy Thanksgiving weekend, everyone.
posted by five fresh fish at 9:46 AM on October 13, 2003
Happy Thanksgiving weekend, everyone.
Ours is the third week of November, fff.
(But Happy Columbus Day anyway) ; >
posted by amberglow at 11:08 AM on October 13, 2003
Ours is the third week of November, fff.
(But Happy Columbus Day anyway) ; >
posted by amberglow at 11:08 AM on October 13, 2003
Like a witch at a trial, trying to explain to the hordes that there aren't any witches.
An overly retentive crowd who probably have something against Thanksgiving and its meaning. Must really hate their relatives they are forced to spend time with.
i_cola, I think fff meant it tongue in cheek, it's a long weekend in some places, so not everyone's at work where they can post to the front page to their hearts content.
Don't deny some dogs the pleasure.
That word community is a steaming legless statement. Sounds exclusionary and too much "not in my backyard" like.
I'd bet there are many in this "community" that don't dare post anything they may be interested in for fear of getting sniped. Then y'all scratch your heads wondering where everyone is and why the same handful post.
Here's an example of how insular this "community" has gotten: I objected to a racist word used. Some of this "community" thought they would "contribute" their opinion. This is called contributing to a discussion? I don't know where anyone would tolerate that kind of "behavior".
I say they be gentle maroons.
Give it a shake. [they're probably thinking it'd be vanilla]
posted by alicesshoe at 11:10 AM on October 13, 2003
An overly retentive crowd who probably have something against Thanksgiving and its meaning. Must really hate their relatives they are forced to spend time with.
i_cola, I think fff meant it tongue in cheek, it's a long weekend in some places, so not everyone's at work where they can post to the front page to their hearts content.
Don't deny some dogs the pleasure.
That word community is a steaming legless statement. Sounds exclusionary and too much "not in my backyard" like.
I'd bet there are many in this "community" that don't dare post anything they may be interested in for fear of getting sniped. Then y'all scratch your heads wondering where everyone is and why the same handful post.
Here's an example of how insular this "community" has gotten: I objected to a racist word used. Some of this "community" thought they would "contribute" their opinion. This is called contributing to a discussion? I don't know where anyone would tolerate that kind of "behavior".
I say they be gentle maroons.
Give it a shake. [they're probably thinking it'd be vanilla]
posted by alicesshoe at 11:10 AM on October 13, 2003
Dhoyt's Hot Dog Casserole:
1 pkg. hot dogs
1 cup elbow macaroni
1 pkg. Cracker Barrel sharp white cheddar cheese, cubed
2 16-oz. cans tomato sauce
Salt and pepper (to taste)
1 pkg. hot dogs
Cook macaroni in a saucepan according to directions. At same time, slice hot dogs into "coins" about 1/4-inch thick. Brown in a skillet. In large casserole dish, combine cooked macaroni, hot dogs, cheese and tomato sauce. Mix together, adding milk until desired consistency. Add salt and pepper to taste. Bake at 350 degrees for about 30 minutes, until cheese is melted and hot dogs are hot!
posted by dhoyt at 11:21 AM on October 13, 2003
1 pkg. hot dogs
1 cup elbow macaroni
1 pkg. Cracker Barrel sharp white cheddar cheese, cubed
2 16-oz. cans tomato sauce
Salt and pepper (to taste)
1 pkg. hot dogs
Cook macaroni in a saucepan according to directions. At same time, slice hot dogs into "coins" about 1/4-inch thick. Brown in a skillet. In large casserole dish, combine cooked macaroni, hot dogs, cheese and tomato sauce. Mix together, adding milk until desired consistency. Add salt and pepper to taste. Bake at 350 degrees for about 30 minutes, until cheese is melted and hot dogs are hot!
posted by dhoyt at 11:21 AM on October 13, 2003
Everything is up for discussion, except whatever is on sale at eBay, unless it's water and Madonna bathed in it, at least!
No, it's not. That's why that thread last year was deleted when some guy linked to a Green Day site and asked for help because his daughter was doing drugs. I love a good discussion as much as the next guy/gal, but there has to be some ground rules here, and posting a link that has more than a marginal connection with what you want to discuss is a fair one.
Listen up, whiners:
Do I make a habit of posting rule-breaking FPPs? No. Am I likely to post more rule-breaking FPPs? No.
It was a once-in-a-lifetime occurence. Get over yourselves already, and save your vitriole for the people who habitually post shiate.
Here's an idea: knowing that you were breaking the rules, and doing it anyway, does not make it better; it might, in fact, make it worse. Perhaps you did it as a nice gesture, as you claim, or perhaps you did it because you like the attention (I happen to believe you, myself, but I don't care much one way or the other). Matt has obviously decided to leave the post up, so I suggest you should be the one who shuts up for awhile, because your continued poor form (the gall of people questioning a poorly-exectued fpp!) is off-putting.
An overly retentive crowd who probably have something against Thanksgiving and its meaning. Must really hate their relatives they are forced to spend time with.
If I had anything against Thanksgiving it would be the celebration of genocide and the senseless slaughtering of turkeys who spent their entires lives in small cages, lined up by the thousands in brightly lit warehouses. I happen to enjoy a good meal, however (and a good pumpkin pie, no less). Much like FFF, your attitude in this thread is combative, simply, it seems, because you started a MetaTalk thread and people didn't agree with you (what was that about being "too much 'not in my backyard' like"?). I suggest you take some of your own advice and calm down a little.
posted by The God Complex at 1:06 PM on October 13, 2003
No, it's not. That's why that thread last year was deleted when some guy linked to a Green Day site and asked for help because his daughter was doing drugs. I love a good discussion as much as the next guy/gal, but there has to be some ground rules here, and posting a link that has more than a marginal connection with what you want to discuss is a fair one.
Listen up, whiners:
Do I make a habit of posting rule-breaking FPPs? No. Am I likely to post more rule-breaking FPPs? No.
It was a once-in-a-lifetime occurence. Get over yourselves already, and save your vitriole for the people who habitually post shiate.
Here's an idea: knowing that you were breaking the rules, and doing it anyway, does not make it better; it might, in fact, make it worse. Perhaps you did it as a nice gesture, as you claim, or perhaps you did it because you like the attention (I happen to believe you, myself, but I don't care much one way or the other). Matt has obviously decided to leave the post up, so I suggest you should be the one who shuts up for awhile, because your continued poor form (the gall of people questioning a poorly-exectued fpp!) is off-putting.
An overly retentive crowd who probably have something against Thanksgiving and its meaning. Must really hate their relatives they are forced to spend time with.
If I had anything against Thanksgiving it would be the celebration of genocide and the senseless slaughtering of turkeys who spent their entires lives in small cages, lined up by the thousands in brightly lit warehouses. I happen to enjoy a good meal, however (and a good pumpkin pie, no less). Much like FFF, your attitude in this thread is combative, simply, it seems, because you started a MetaTalk thread and people didn't agree with you (what was that about being "too much 'not in my backyard' like"?). I suggest you take some of your own advice and calm down a little.
posted by The God Complex at 1:06 PM on October 13, 2003
you started a MetaTalk thread
not that it matters much, but beth started the thread. aliceshoes made the "retentive" comment.
posted by dobbs at 1:18 PM on October 13, 2003
not that it matters much, but beth started the thread. aliceshoes made the "retentive" comment.
posted by dobbs at 1:18 PM on October 13, 2003
FFF, you're sober now (I presume) and your free pass has expired. Take The God Complex's advice and stop defending the indefensible.
posted by languagehat at 1:36 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by languagehat at 1:36 PM on October 13, 2003
downfall:infighting::infighting:
a)politics
b)religion
c)racism
c)pie recipe
posted by duckstab at 1:52 PM on October 13, 2003
a)politics
b)religion
c)racism
c)pie recipe
posted by duckstab at 1:52 PM on October 13, 2003
MetaFillet Mignon:
1 MetaFilter member
1/2 tsp. salt
ground pepper to taste
Skewer MetaFilter member and chew out backside. Stab in back to remove the tenderloins along either side of spine (unless member is spineless, in which case the tenderloins are probably underdeveloped anyway). Trim fat and connective tissue away and cut into MetaFillets roughly baseball-sized. Season and let rest in the refrigerator for 8-12 hours, longer if you'd like.
When ready, pull MetaFillets out of the fridge and let them come up to room temperature. Preheat your broiler, pat your MetaFillets dry with a paper towel and brush them with a little olive oil to prevent sticking, then place on the broiling pan for 3 minutes on either side for rare, 5-7 minutes for medium. If you prefer your MetaFillets well-done, return them to broiler or fry in MetaTalk until charred crisp.
Serve with G&Ts and pancakes.
posted by me3dia at 1:53 PM on October 13, 2003
1 MetaFilter member
1/2 tsp. salt
ground pepper to taste
Skewer MetaFilter member and chew out backside. Stab in back to remove the tenderloins along either side of spine (unless member is spineless, in which case the tenderloins are probably underdeveloped anyway). Trim fat and connective tissue away and cut into MetaFillets roughly baseball-sized. Season and let rest in the refrigerator for 8-12 hours, longer if you'd like.
When ready, pull MetaFillets out of the fridge and let them come up to room temperature. Preheat your broiler, pat your MetaFillets dry with a paper towel and brush them with a little olive oil to prevent sticking, then place on the broiling pan for 3 minutes on either side for rare, 5-7 minutes for medium. If you prefer your MetaFillets well-done, return them to broiler or fry in MetaTalk until charred crisp.
Serve with G&Ts and pancakes.
posted by me3dia at 1:53 PM on October 13, 2003
e) using the wrong "two"
I blame the rum, from the pie.
posted by duckstab at 1:55 PM on October 13, 2003
I blame the rum, from the pie.
posted by duckstab at 1:55 PM on October 13, 2003
Thomcat, do I have a girl for you...
Hope she likes an ice-cream scoop with her pie..;)
posted by thomcatspike at 2:34 PM on October 13, 2003
Hope she likes an ice-cream scoop with her pie..;)
posted by thomcatspike at 2:34 PM on October 13, 2003
Anything that inspires languagehat to write witty doggerel for the enjoyment of Metafiltarians can't be all bad. For those who don't enjoy the thread, let them eat pie!.
posted by vraxoin at 2:35 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by vraxoin at 2:35 PM on October 13, 2003
Remind me not to have me3dia over for dinner. (Well done, though, master chef!)
posted by onlyconnect at 2:40 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by onlyconnect at 2:40 PM on October 13, 2003
There's a contingent of self-important rule-obsessed fanatics who get their knickers in a knot on a damn near daily basis. MetaTalk is choc-a-bloc full of idiotic whinging about the tragedy of FPPs. It's like a preschool in here, with tattle-tales trying to trump up their toddler ego by being teacher's pet.
I've posted four FPPs in two years. I am unlikely to post another FPP in quite some time. Do you really think this dogpile is going accomplish a damn thing? In a nutshell: not fucking likely.
I think this thread, and most of the other FPP-whinging threads, have very little indeed to do with the quality, quantity, or regulation of FPPs, and very much to do with a small group of ass-widgets who thrill to the sensation of power and righteousness.
A good community is not created by bringing out the rocket launchers whenever a neighbour plants the "wrong" colour of flowers or parks their car on the "wrong" side of the street. A good community is created when most people make an effort to do good things for the community.
Go spend your energy and indignation on something good for MetaFilter, like creating really smokin' good FPPs. Or if that's too much work for you, then get into each and every thread and do your damnedest to make it the most compelling use of MeFi e'er to be experienced.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:53 PM on October 13, 2003
I've posted four FPPs in two years. I am unlikely to post another FPP in quite some time. Do you really think this dogpile is going accomplish a damn thing? In a nutshell: not fucking likely.
I think this thread, and most of the other FPP-whinging threads, have very little indeed to do with the quality, quantity, or regulation of FPPs, and very much to do with a small group of ass-widgets who thrill to the sensation of power and righteousness.
A good community is not created by bringing out the rocket launchers whenever a neighbour plants the "wrong" colour of flowers or parks their car on the "wrong" side of the street. A good community is created when most people make an effort to do good things for the community.
Go spend your energy and indignation on something good for MetaFilter, like creating really smokin' good FPPs. Or if that's too much work for you, then get into each and every thread and do your damnedest to make it the most compelling use of MeFi e'er to be experienced.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:53 PM on October 13, 2003
"A good community is not created by bringing out the rocket launchers whenever a neighbour plants the "wrong" colour of flowers or parks their car on the "wrong" side of the street. A good community is created when most people make an effort to do good things for the community."
Ahhh, but as mentioned by others above you knew what you were doing was wrong for this community and did so anyway.
Take your recipe to Betty Crocker's mail list and take The God Complex's advice and stop defending the indefensible (as languagehat posted).
posted by DBAPaul at 3:11 PM on October 13, 2003
Ahhh, but as mentioned by others above you knew what you were doing was wrong for this community and did so anyway.
Take your recipe to Betty Crocker's mail list and take The God Complex's advice and stop defending the indefensible (as languagehat posted).
posted by DBAPaul at 3:11 PM on October 13, 2003
Do you guys burn books on alternate weekends as well? ;-P
posted by mischief at 3:59 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by mischief at 3:59 PM on October 13, 2003
FFF: the road to hell is paved with good intentions, so they say. For me, I hate recipes and pumpkins too. However, the spirit in which you posted is relevant: no harm was done in reality. For god's sake (complex or otherwise) let it go now, as I suggest should every one else.
Sheesh, we've had more important spats here before. Let's just make with the nice already.
posted by dash_slot- at 4:16 PM on October 13, 2003
Sheesh, we've had more important spats here before. Let's just make with the nice already.
posted by dash_slot- at 4:16 PM on October 13, 2003
Whatever.
posted by five fresh fish at 4:24 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by five fresh fish at 4:24 PM on October 13, 2003
FFF's post was fun, even if strictly wrong.
Can't we give him a break, and just get along?
FPPs are a point of constant contention, but confess:
languagehat's poem alone was worth all of this mess!
posted by troybob at 4:30 PM on October 13, 2003
Can't we give him a break, and just get along?
FPPs are a point of constant contention, but confess:
languagehat's poem alone was worth all of this mess!
posted by troybob at 4:30 PM on October 13, 2003
If only the post was about pumpkin pancakes, it would have been gold star material.
"There's such a fine line between clever and stupid."
posted by Argyle at 5:13 PM on October 13, 2003
"There's such a fine line between clever and stupid."
posted by Argyle at 5:13 PM on October 13, 2003
"There's such a fine line between clever and stupid".
posted by clavdivs at 6:07 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by clavdivs at 6:07 PM on October 13, 2003
are you sure, sarge?
posted by taz at 1:05 PM PST on October 12
oh yeah ! i love women in hats ...
posted by sgt.serenity at 6:08 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by taz at 1:05 PM PST on October 12
oh yeah ! i love women in hats ...
posted by sgt.serenity at 6:08 PM on October 13, 2003
FFF's post was fun, even if strictly wrong.
Can't we give him a break, and just get along?
Hey, I certainly don't mind. I thought it was a fun read (as were many of the responses). I was simply pointing out that he was intentionally violating the accepted guidelines, so he should have been more understanding of why people might question it, instead of just getting angry and telling everyone to get lost and stop whining.
Hopefully we don't go through this again when you folks down south celebrate next month.
posted by The God Complex at 6:51 PM on October 13, 2003
Can't we give him a break, and just get along?
Hey, I certainly don't mind. I thought it was a fun read (as were many of the responses). I was simply pointing out that he was intentionally violating the accepted guidelines, so he should have been more understanding of why people might question it, instead of just getting angry and telling everyone to get lost and stop whining.
Hopefully we don't go through this again when you folks down south celebrate next month.
posted by The God Complex at 6:51 PM on October 13, 2003
What FFF said, with double cream and extra slice. Well done, sir! (You, not the pie - well the pie too, actually, to give it a crust.)
Myself, I live in fear that someone will soon triple-post that frightening chicken within a duck within a turkey recipe.
AAARGH!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:02 PM on October 13, 2003
Myself, I live in fear that someone will soon triple-post that frightening chicken within a duck within a turkey recipe.
AAARGH!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:02 PM on October 13, 2003
Myself, I live in fear that someone will soon triple-post that frightening chicken within a duck within a turkey recipe.
Ah, Miguel, you must be talking about my Turducken Story.
posted by Argyle at 7:29 PM on October 13, 2003
Ah, Miguel, you must be talking about my Turducken Story.
posted by Argyle at 7:29 PM on October 13, 2003
I have to worry about any food that starts with those four letters...
posted by inpHilltr8r at 7:43 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by inpHilltr8r at 7:43 PM on October 13, 2003
What FFF said, with double cream and extra slice. Well done, sir!
Oh, you would applaud that, you infectious dose of barbarism. The post wasn't great, but what's really galling is the open disregard for community mores and the Cardoso-esque lashing out at anyone who dares question it. Fuck off, fffish, and take your ill-bred mentor with you.
posted by sennoma at 7:45 PM on October 13, 2003
Oh, you would applaud that, you infectious dose of barbarism. The post wasn't great, but what's really galling is the open disregard for community mores and the Cardoso-esque lashing out at anyone who dares question it. Fuck off, fffish, and take your ill-bred mentor with you.
posted by sennoma at 7:45 PM on October 13, 2003
open disregard for community mores
...and the laughs keep coming on these conversational forays!
Talk about galling!
forgive me for LOLing
posted by troybob at 7:58 PM on October 13, 2003
...and the laughs keep coming on these conversational forays!
Talk about galling!
forgive me for LOLing
posted by troybob at 7:58 PM on October 13, 2003
you infectious dose of barbarism
ill-bred mentor
Why senny boy, I do believe those are the nicest - well, least insulting - things you've ever said about me. Don't tell me I'm growing on you or something? I sincerely hope so.
Anyway, I'm glad to see you've warmed to my recommendation and are slowly but surely taking your own advice, nuggets of which I feel is my duty to repost, as a token of gratitude and an encouraging sign that community mores are alive and well in the sennoma household:
It seems that personal attacks are on the rise, at the expense of debate that focuses on the thread topic or rational criticism of poor posts. (...) Even if you see a pattern of bad posts I don't think it helps to go after the poster personally. Yank 'em into MeTa, lay out (with links) the pattern and explain what you think is bad about it. Nonresponders to the polite, constructive MeTa treatment can be diagnosed as trolls and ignored accordingly. In the worst and most refractory cases, Matt has shown willing to hit the smite button.(...)
In the realm of self-policing, I would like to see a move away from personal attacks and towards reasoned and constructive criticism.
Keep up the good work, amigo!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:49 PM on October 13, 2003
ill-bred mentor
Why senny boy, I do believe those are the nicest - well, least insulting - things you've ever said about me. Don't tell me I'm growing on you or something? I sincerely hope so.
Anyway, I'm glad to see you've warmed to my recommendation and are slowly but surely taking your own advice, nuggets of which I feel is my duty to repost, as a token of gratitude and an encouraging sign that community mores are alive and well in the sennoma household:
It seems that personal attacks are on the rise, at the expense of debate that focuses on the thread topic or rational criticism of poor posts. (...) Even if you see a pattern of bad posts I don't think it helps to go after the poster personally. Yank 'em into MeTa, lay out (with links) the pattern and explain what you think is bad about it. Nonresponders to the polite, constructive MeTa treatment can be diagnosed as trolls and ignored accordingly. In the worst and most refractory cases, Matt has shown willing to hit the smite button.(...)
In the realm of self-policing, I would like to see a move away from personal attacks and towards reasoned and constructive criticism.
Keep up the good work, amigo!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:49 PM on October 13, 2003
But Miguel, as our old friend rodii pointed out just a few comments into that thread:
Sennoma is my pal, but I have to disagree with him here--actually I agree with him in general, but suppose you have a poster who posts contemptuous, dismissive, disrespectful little asides in thread after thread and seems utterly impervious to, or oblivious of, the opinions of others. Sometimes you have to call a spade an ass.
And it's interesting, and rather telling, when we take what you said earlier in this thread and dissect it for what it's worth.
What FFF said, with double cream and extra slice. Well done, sir!
What did FFF say that was so correct to deserve double cream and extra slice? Oh yes...
There's a contingent of self-important rule-obsessed fanatics who get their knickers in a knot on a damn near daily basis. MetaTalk is choc-a-bloc full of idiotic whinging about the tragedy of FPPs. It's like a preschool in here, with tattle-tales trying to trump up their toddler ego by being teacher's pet.
So basically Miguel, you agree with FFF that community members should say, "To hell with the rules!" and post without discretion, just because they can. Sound familiar? Oh right, that's the same attitude you retain concerning MetaTalk posts. "To hell with etiquette! I want to make my own rules!" Your lack of respect for this site is appalling.
posted by BlueTrain at 9:30 PM on October 13, 2003
Sennoma is my pal, but I have to disagree with him here--actually I agree with him in general, but suppose you have a poster who posts contemptuous, dismissive, disrespectful little asides in thread after thread and seems utterly impervious to, or oblivious of, the opinions of others. Sometimes you have to call a spade an ass.
And it's interesting, and rather telling, when we take what you said earlier in this thread and dissect it for what it's worth.
What FFF said, with double cream and extra slice. Well done, sir!
What did FFF say that was so correct to deserve double cream and extra slice? Oh yes...
There's a contingent of self-important rule-obsessed fanatics who get their knickers in a knot on a damn near daily basis. MetaTalk is choc-a-bloc full of idiotic whinging about the tragedy of FPPs. It's like a preschool in here, with tattle-tales trying to trump up their toddler ego by being teacher's pet.
So basically Miguel, you agree with FFF that community members should say, "To hell with the rules!" and post without discretion, just because they can. Sound familiar? Oh right, that's the same attitude you retain concerning MetaTalk posts. "To hell with etiquette! I want to make my own rules!" Your lack of respect for this site is appalling.
posted by BlueTrain at 9:30 PM on October 13, 2003
awesome pork rib rub:
¼ cup paprika
3 tbsp. ground black pepper
2 tbsp. brown sugar
1 tsp. salt
1 tbsp. chili powder
1½ tsp. garlic powder
1½ tsp onion powder
Mix ingredients in a bowl.
Rub lightly into a rack of pork ribs.
Put ribs into an oven-safe baking pan and cover with foil.
Heat oven to 350°
Let ribs cook for one hour.
Heat up the grill, slap them ribs down and grill until outer layer is nice and brown. I like 'em slightly burnt.
Eat.
posted by Hackworth at 9:34 PM on October 13, 2003
¼ cup paprika
3 tbsp. ground black pepper
2 tbsp. brown sugar
1 tsp. salt
1 tbsp. chili powder
1½ tsp. garlic powder
1½ tsp onion powder
Mix ingredients in a bowl.
Rub lightly into a rack of pork ribs.
Put ribs into an oven-safe baking pan and cover with foil.
Heat oven to 350°
Let ribs cook for one hour.
Heat up the grill, slap them ribs down and grill until outer layer is nice and brown. I like 'em slightly burnt.
Eat.
posted by Hackworth at 9:34 PM on October 13, 2003
guess what sennoma: community mores change. that fact that your's haven't are less indicative of a superior member than of a stuck in the past whiner who ought to shut his hole and go find another community where they venerate those who hobble around with sticks up their asses. why are you wasting time here when you could be having discourse in a nice comfy circlejerk of like-minded backslappers?
posted by quonsar at 9:40 PM on October 13, 2003
posted by quonsar at 9:40 PM on October 13, 2003
The God Complex, I'm sure
People didn't agree with me? I couldn't give a shit if they agreed or not. A racist slur is racism, no matter how you cut it, Complex [indeed].
The klu klux klan think they're a community also. Nobody questions their beliefs in that community do they? Metafilter is the same, you're telling me? Yah, bad fucking analogy, Complex.
Hidebound by rules eh The God Complex? Thanks for your condescending attitude. You weren't "simply pointing out", either. Next time resist the urge. As for the difference between a racial slur and a pie post, well, what do you think? You see similarities. That's just great, Complex.
You're over analyzing fff's intent. Get a life.
Your quip on the celebration of genocide and senseless slaughtering of an animal for mass food consumption really takes the cake. Better to send young marines to a senseless slaughter under false pretenses is ok by you. Right?
If you object so vehemently about the food served on holidays, I wonder what you've done to change that attitude. Nothing, would be my guess. You're so concerned for animals, do you drive a car? That isn't killing the human race though is it? Not going to rail about man's dependancy economically on the car are you? You're not? You gonna pick on farmers?
No you'll sit there and bellyache in general. Great.
dobbs,
If beth has a beef with my comment she/he can address that on their own, I'm sure. Are you her/his daddy? Thanks for your input. Not that it matters much [passive aggressive].
As for the snobs crticising The Joy of Cooking link, well, we all started somewhere. No doubt you're on to Le Cordon Bleu Classic French Cuisine, I'm fucking sure of it! Is that why the freezer sections have now taken over 3 aisles in mega grocery stores? The statistics and demographics say you're wrong. You haven't any time to cook and object being reminded with a simple recipe and get snotty about a cookbook, which still remains a good reference.
Funny I agree with fresh fish five regarding the self important rule obsessed preschoolers here. It's multiplying. Sadly.
Now get along, doggies.
posted by alicesshoe at 9:58 PM on October 13, 2003
People didn't agree with me? I couldn't give a shit if they agreed or not. A racist slur is racism, no matter how you cut it, Complex [indeed].
The klu klux klan think they're a community also. Nobody questions their beliefs in that community do they? Metafilter is the same, you're telling me? Yah, bad fucking analogy, Complex.
Hidebound by rules eh The God Complex? Thanks for your condescending attitude. You weren't "simply pointing out", either. Next time resist the urge. As for the difference between a racial slur and a pie post, well, what do you think? You see similarities. That's just great, Complex.
You're over analyzing fff's intent. Get a life.
Your quip on the celebration of genocide and senseless slaughtering of an animal for mass food consumption really takes the cake. Better to send young marines to a senseless slaughter under false pretenses is ok by you. Right?
If you object so vehemently about the food served on holidays, I wonder what you've done to change that attitude. Nothing, would be my guess. You're so concerned for animals, do you drive a car? That isn't killing the human race though is it? Not going to rail about man's dependancy economically on the car are you? You're not? You gonna pick on farmers?
No you'll sit there and bellyache in general. Great.
dobbs,
If beth has a beef with my comment she/he can address that on their own, I'm sure. Are you her/his daddy? Thanks for your input. Not that it matters much [passive aggressive].
As for the snobs crticising The Joy of Cooking link, well, we all started somewhere. No doubt you're on to Le Cordon Bleu Classic French Cuisine, I'm fucking sure of it! Is that why the freezer sections have now taken over 3 aisles in mega grocery stores? The statistics and demographics say you're wrong. You haven't any time to cook and object being reminded with a simple recipe and get snotty about a cookbook, which still remains a good reference.
Funny I agree with fresh fish five regarding the self important rule obsessed preschoolers here. It's multiplying. Sadly.
Now get along, doggies.
posted by alicesshoe at 9:58 PM on October 13, 2003
community mores change
Show me where the guidelines for this site have changed, you poisonous maggot. When did "community weblog" come to mean anything goes, and the loudest asshole gets his way?
who ought to shut his hole and go find another community
And leave a good site to the likes of you? Throw up my hands and let your pointless, unfunny look at me, loooook at meeeeeeee dick-waving take over? No. I've a better idea: you are a joke that's been stretched way too thin, and it's time you retired. Go away, bigmouth, your fifteen minutes were over a long time ago.
posted by sennoma at 10:17 PM on October 13, 2003
Show me where the guidelines for this site have changed, you poisonous maggot. When did "community weblog" come to mean anything goes, and the loudest asshole gets his way?
who ought to shut his hole and go find another community
And leave a good site to the likes of you? Throw up my hands and let your pointless, unfunny look at me, loooook at meeeeeeee dick-waving take over? No. I've a better idea: you are a joke that's been stretched way too thin, and it's time you retired. Go away, bigmouth, your fifteen minutes were over a long time ago.
posted by sennoma at 10:17 PM on October 13, 2003
When did "community weblog" come to mean anything goes, and the loudest asshole gets his way? ...Go away, bigmouth, your fifteen minutes were over a long time ago.
We had to destroy the web log in order to save the web log.
posted by y2karl at 10:26 PM on October 13, 2003
We had to destroy the web log in order to save the web log.
posted by y2karl at 10:26 PM on October 13, 2003
People didn't agree with me? I couldn't give a shit if they agreed or not. A racist slur is racism, no matter how you cut it, Complex [indeed].
If you mean a slur strictly in the sense of being disparaging, you are correct. A slur can also refer to treating a word without the due respect it deserves, in which case it would be flippant, but not malicious (and all of this follows the logic that I agree with you that Stavros was using it in even the second manner). If you think either of the two remarks indicates racism--that is, that they believe their race to be genetically superior to that of black people--I would suggest that you are sadly mistaken, and the most they could be accused of is not treating loaded words with due reverence.
The klu klux klan think they're a community also. Nobody questions their beliefs in that community do they? Metafilter is the same, you're telling me? Yah, bad fucking analogy, Complex.
You're right; it's a fucking terrible analogy, which is why I'm so glad you made it and I just laughed when I read it.
As for the difference between a racial slur and a pie post, well, what do you think? You see similarities. That's just great, Complex.
Again, you made the connection. All I did was comment on what appears to be a hangup you had with how that issue was resolved (or not resolved), which you apparently don't care about but continue to harp on ad nauseum in yet another thread.
Your quip on the celebration of genocide and senseless slaughtering of an animal for mass food consumption really takes the cake. Better to send young marines to a senseless slaughter under false pretenses is ok by you. Right?
I forgot about that alleged no-Thanksgiving-means-senseless-slaughtering-of-young-marines connection that scientists at Harvard are feverishly working on. If said no-Thanksgiving-means-senseless-slaughtering-of-young-marines connection turns out to be more than hot air, I will gladly concede your point...
If you object so vehemently about the food served on holidays, I wonder what you've done to change that attitude. Nothing, would be my guess. You're so concerned for animals, do you drive a car? That isn't killing the human race though is it? Not going to rail about man's dependancy economically on the car are you? You're not? You gonna pick on farmers?
No you'll sit there and bellyache in general. Great.
Perhaps you noticed the glib way in which I transitioned from commenting on genocide and mass slaughtering to my love of a good meal and pumpkin pie. One could almost see this my way of condemning my carefree attitude towards life that I, and so many others, have, which is to be expected when raised in the posh comforts of the first world.
Or, one could see none of this and make the exact same point, only with much, much more anger.
Now get along, doggies.
Yet you claim I'm the condescending one.
posted by The God Complex at 10:30 PM on October 13, 2003
If you mean a slur strictly in the sense of being disparaging, you are correct. A slur can also refer to treating a word without the due respect it deserves, in which case it would be flippant, but not malicious (and all of this follows the logic that I agree with you that Stavros was using it in even the second manner). If you think either of the two remarks indicates racism--that is, that they believe their race to be genetically superior to that of black people--I would suggest that you are sadly mistaken, and the most they could be accused of is not treating loaded words with due reverence.
The klu klux klan think they're a community also. Nobody questions their beliefs in that community do they? Metafilter is the same, you're telling me? Yah, bad fucking analogy, Complex.
You're right; it's a fucking terrible analogy, which is why I'm so glad you made it and I just laughed when I read it.
As for the difference between a racial slur and a pie post, well, what do you think? You see similarities. That's just great, Complex.
Again, you made the connection. All I did was comment on what appears to be a hangup you had with how that issue was resolved (or not resolved), which you apparently don't care about but continue to harp on ad nauseum in yet another thread.
Your quip on the celebration of genocide and senseless slaughtering of an animal for mass food consumption really takes the cake. Better to send young marines to a senseless slaughter under false pretenses is ok by you. Right?
I forgot about that alleged no-Thanksgiving-means-senseless-slaughtering-of-young-marines connection that scientists at Harvard are feverishly working on. If said no-Thanksgiving-means-senseless-slaughtering-of-young-marines connection turns out to be more than hot air, I will gladly concede your point...
If you object so vehemently about the food served on holidays, I wonder what you've done to change that attitude. Nothing, would be my guess. You're so concerned for animals, do you drive a car? That isn't killing the human race though is it? Not going to rail about man's dependancy economically on the car are you? You're not? You gonna pick on farmers?
No you'll sit there and bellyache in general. Great.
Perhaps you noticed the glib way in which I transitioned from commenting on genocide and mass slaughtering to my love of a good meal and pumpkin pie. One could almost see this my way of condemning my carefree attitude towards life that I, and so many others, have, which is to be expected when raised in the posh comforts of the first world.
Or, one could see none of this and make the exact same point, only with much, much more anger.
Now get along, doggies.
Yet you claim I'm the condescending one.
posted by The God Complex at 10:30 PM on October 13, 2003
Pumpkin pie is disgusting. Pumpkin ravioli, now that's different.
I'd use my share of pie to feed trolls like sennoma.
posted by cbrody at 10:39 PM on October 13, 2003
I'd use my share of pie to feed trolls like sennoma.
posted by cbrody at 10:39 PM on October 13, 2003
I wonder what the average color of my navel lint is. I should collect a piece every day, and graph the coloration. Perhaps in using the mean color as the background for my webpage, said page will harbor deeper, more profound truths about said navel.
If I collect the lint for long enough, it should make a delicious pie.
posted by kaibutsu at 11:37 PM on October 13, 2003
If I collect the lint for long enough, it should make a delicious pie.
posted by kaibutsu at 11:37 PM on October 13, 2003
When did "community weblog" come to mean anything goes, and the loudest asshole gets his way?
it never has, and loud assholes don't, as you are discovering to your apparent dismay.
when did community weblog mean clenched-sphincter literal adherence to a set of guidelines? when did the definition of guidelines change to "mandatory no-exception decrees"?
And leave a good site to the likes of you? Throw up my hands and let your pointless, unfunny look at me, loooook at meeeeeeee dick-waving take over? No.
fred phelps holds a similar "i'm saving the world all by myself because the rest of you are too stupid to do it" philosophy.
you are a joke that's been stretched way too thin, and it's time you retired.
you are a whining little gnat, and i'm am a man with a large can of Raid. i'm not going anywhere soon. how's that gas mask holding up?
Go away, bigmouth, your fifteen minutes were over a long time ago.
no. presently, i am enjoying the ascendancy of many like me who will provide hours of hot-poker-up-the-ass discomfort to the likes of you. may the cauterizing effect upon your collective rectums provide us relief from the noxious emissions befouling our environment each time you bend over to speak.
posted by quonsar at 11:39 PM on October 13, 2003
it never has, and loud assholes don't, as you are discovering to your apparent dismay.
when did community weblog mean clenched-sphincter literal adherence to a set of guidelines? when did the definition of guidelines change to "mandatory no-exception decrees"?
And leave a good site to the likes of you? Throw up my hands and let your pointless, unfunny look at me, loooook at meeeeeeee dick-waving take over? No.
fred phelps holds a similar "i'm saving the world all by myself because the rest of you are too stupid to do it" philosophy.
you are a joke that's been stretched way too thin, and it's time you retired.
you are a whining little gnat, and i'm am a man with a large can of Raid. i'm not going anywhere soon. how's that gas mask holding up?
Go away, bigmouth, your fifteen minutes were over a long time ago.
no. presently, i am enjoying the ascendancy of many like me who will provide hours of hot-poker-up-the-ass discomfort to the likes of you. may the cauterizing effect upon your collective rectums provide us relief from the noxious emissions befouling our environment each time you bend over to speak.
posted by quonsar at 11:39 PM on October 13, 2003
a man with a large can of Raid ... the ascendancy of many like me
You flatter yourself, you sorry little shoe-pisser, and you are getting boring. Clenched sphincters and flatulence metaphors? Is that the best you can do? I could put up with your desperate lunging for the spotlight if only you were funny from time to time.
posted by sennoma at 12:06 AM on October 14, 2003
You flatter yourself, you sorry little shoe-pisser, and you are getting boring. Clenched sphincters and flatulence metaphors? Is that the best you can do? I could put up with your desperate lunging for the spotlight if only you were funny from time to time.
posted by sennoma at 12:06 AM on October 14, 2003
chenched sphincters and flatulence metaphors were specifically chosen with you in mind. if you'd prefer, we could move on to higher insults, but then you'd need to exhibit an ability to operate at a level exceeding that of your colon.
posted by quonsar at 12:11 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by quonsar at 12:11 AM on October 14, 2003
chenched sphincters and flatulence metaphors were specifically chosen with you in mind.
Quonsar -- no they weren't. You chose them because they're common metaphors for the "stick-up-the-ass" mentality you see in sennoma. They are an artifact of the society you operate within.
posted by j.edwards at 12:15 AM on October 14, 2003
Quonsar -- no they weren't. You chose them because they're common metaphors for the "stick-up-the-ass" mentality you see in sennoma. They are an artifact of the society you operate within.
posted by j.edwards at 12:15 AM on October 14, 2003
... you'd need to exhibit an ability to operate at a level exceeding that of your colon.
Whappa whappa whappa smock smock smock.
posted by sennoma at 12:32 AM on October 14, 2003
Whappa whappa whappa smock smock smock.
posted by sennoma at 12:32 AM on October 14, 2003
Thus concludes the latest installment of the Metafilter debate series. Please take a moment to thank all of our participants for a spirited debate. Thank you, and goodnight.
posted by eddydamascene at 12:55 AM on October 14, 2003
Whappa whappa whappa smock smock smock.
yeah! isn't it great stuff?! but i wonder why you repost my previous utterances? how do they demonstrate you are anything but an officious windbag standing off to the side pitching whining, sniveling pouts over what everyone else is doing? i note a stunning lack of contribution to just about anything but pissing and moaning out of you of late. all you do is complain.
you have never shared a single link with the community on the front page, and your single metatalk post was entitled (suprise! surprise! suprise!) "Here is the latest example of something that's been bugging me."
it's getting late and i tire of sparring with your frowning, negative countenance. try and have a good day, there's all kinds of things to bitch about out there in the big world so you should have little trouble finding self-fulfillment.
posted by quonsar at 1:07 AM on October 14, 2003
yeah! isn't it great stuff?! but i wonder why you repost my previous utterances? how do they demonstrate you are anything but an officious windbag standing off to the side pitching whining, sniveling pouts over what everyone else is doing? i note a stunning lack of contribution to just about anything but pissing and moaning out of you of late. all you do is complain.
you have never shared a single link with the community on the front page, and your single metatalk post was entitled (suprise! surprise! suprise!) "Here is the latest example of something that's been bugging me."
it's getting late and i tire of sparring with your frowning, negative countenance. try and have a good day, there's all kinds of things to bitch about out there in the big world so you should have little trouble finding self-fulfillment.
posted by quonsar at 1:07 AM on October 14, 2003
chenched sphincters and flatulence metaphors were specifically chosen with you in mind.
Quonsar -- no they weren't. You chose them because they're common metaphors for the "stick-up-the-ass" mentality you see in sennoma. They are an artifact of the society you operate within.
and sennoma is an artifact of...what?
I'm not here to judge anyone for their opinions. I try not to, even in meatspace. I'm not defending anyone's argumentative style, or attacking it. But MetaTalk deserves an answer to my implied question, quonsar.
Why did you lie? Why did you blatantly and unapologetically lie in that post?
posted by j.edwards at 1:50 AM on October 14, 2003
Quonsar -- no they weren't. You chose them because they're common metaphors for the "stick-up-the-ass" mentality you see in sennoma. They are an artifact of the society you operate within.
and sennoma is an artifact of...what?
I'm not here to judge anyone for their opinions. I try not to, even in meatspace. I'm not defending anyone's argumentative style, or attacking it. But MetaTalk deserves an answer to my implied question, quonsar.
Why did you lie? Why did you blatantly and unapologetically lie in that post?
posted by j.edwards at 1:50 AM on October 14, 2003
but j.edwards, surely you don't mean to assert that a third-party exclamation consisting of the words "no they weren't" somehow functions to validate itself while demonstrating the falsehood of the utterance which spurred it? besides which, i happen to be a blatant and unapologetic liar.
posted by quonsar at 2:07 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by quonsar at 2:07 AM on October 14, 2003
and where were you when kennedy was shot ?
posted by sgt.serenity at 2:18 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by sgt.serenity at 2:18 AM on October 14, 2003
yeah, fresno. selling harpoon pelts in my gondola smock.
posted by quonsar at 2:29 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by quonsar at 2:29 AM on October 14, 2003
It was midnight and very dark, so that I did not perceive the gondola
to be ill covered and in wretched order. A fine rain was falling
when I got in, and the drops getting larger I was soon wet to the
skin. No great harm was done, as I was close to my quarters. I
groped my way upstairs and knocked at the door of the ante-room,
where Tonine, who had not waited for me, was sleeping.
Awake in a moment she came to open the door in her smock, and without
a light. As I wanted one, I told her to get the flint and steel,
which she did, warning me in a modest voice that she was not dressed.
"That's of no consequence," said I, "provided you are covered." She
said no more, and soon lighted a candle, but she could not help
laughing when she saw me dripping wet.
posted by taz at 2:54 AM on October 14, 2003
to be ill covered and in wretched order. A fine rain was falling
when I got in, and the drops getting larger I was soon wet to the
skin. No great harm was done, as I was close to my quarters. I
groped my way upstairs and knocked at the door of the ante-room,
where Tonine, who had not waited for me, was sleeping.
Awake in a moment she came to open the door in her smock, and without
a light. As I wanted one, I told her to get the flint and steel,
which she did, warning me in a modest voice that she was not dressed.
"That's of no consequence," said I, "provided you are covered." She
said no more, and soon lighted a candle, but she could not help
laughing when she saw me dripping wet.
posted by taz at 2:54 AM on October 14, 2003
yeah. despite my solitary desires, casanova insisted on riding along. i suspect he may have been of a mind to attempt my harpooning had his quarters not been nearby.
posted by quonsar at 3:06 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by quonsar at 3:06 AM on October 14, 2003
so kennedy was killed by a sniper firing a bullet from fresno, yet another case solved.
posted by sgt.serenity at 3:31 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by sgt.serenity at 3:31 AM on October 14, 2003
It always amazes me when people defend the "standards of the community" with the foulest of insults. Those same standards are also supposed to reflect a certain gentility of speech as well.
I'm not holding my breath.
posted by konolia at 4:02 AM on October 14, 2003
I'm not holding my breath.
posted by konolia at 4:02 AM on October 14, 2003
*pops his head in, as saucepan flies out the door*
Hey, did I get called a racist back there somewhere?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:07 AM on October 14, 2003
Hey, did I get called a racist back there somewhere?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:07 AM on October 14, 2003
I'm sure I'm not alone in relishing the irony of this piss-fest getting kicked off with FFF wanting to say thank you to MeFi for being so good ;-)
OK, now dragging it back to beth's original (and completely reasonable & relaxed) comment...
It's not the end of the world. No, honestly, its not.
However, FFF, you knew you were doing a 'bad thing', you were too drunk (by your own admission) to make a decent post and you knew you'd get hosed down in a MeTa thread.
If yer gonna play Mini Miggy once in a blue moon then learn to take the subsequent beating. Enjoy it even. (I know he does ;-) But don't get all pissy if people take a shot after you've held your hands up & admitted your 'mistake'.
VINCENT
Did you ever hear the philosophy
that once a man admits he's wrong,
he's immediately forgiven for all
wrong-doings?
JULES
Man, get outta my face with that
shit! The motherfucker who said
that never had to pick up itty-
bitty pieces of skull with his
fingers on account of your dumb
ass.
aliceinshoes: I'd respond but I'm not really sure what you're on about. Anyhow, happy holiday.
Now people, let us all relax otherwise we'll all end up like this:
posted by i_cola at 4:37 AM on October 14, 2003
OK, now dragging it back to beth's original (and completely reasonable & relaxed) comment...
It's not the end of the world. No, honestly, its not.
However, FFF, you knew you were doing a 'bad thing', you were too drunk (by your own admission) to make a decent post and you knew you'd get hosed down in a MeTa thread.
If yer gonna play Mini Miggy once in a blue moon then learn to take the subsequent beating. Enjoy it even. (I know he does ;-) But don't get all pissy if people take a shot after you've held your hands up & admitted your 'mistake'.
VINCENT
Did you ever hear the philosophy
that once a man admits he's wrong,
he's immediately forgiven for all
wrong-doings?
JULES
Man, get outta my face with that
shit! The motherfucker who said
that never had to pick up itty-
bitty pieces of skull with his
fingers on account of your dumb
ass.
aliceinshoes: I'd respond but I'm not really sure what you're on about. Anyhow, happy holiday.
Now people, let us all relax otherwise we'll all end up like this:
posted by i_cola at 4:37 AM on October 14, 2003
This may just be the thread where the signal/noise ratio on Metafilter tips noiseward once and for all....
And to think, we were here to see it. Years from now, the stories we'll be able to tell...aren't you all just bursting with pride?
posted by rushmc at 5:56 AM on October 14, 2003
And to think, we were here to see it. Years from now, the stories we'll be able to tell...aren't you all just bursting with pride?
posted by rushmc at 5:56 AM on October 14, 2003
Jeebus, what a bunch of assholes. I mean really.
Anyway, it's raining here, and I'm in the mood for soup.
posted by tr33hggr at 6:20 AM on October 14, 2003
Anyway, it's raining here, and I'm in the mood for soup.
posted by tr33hggr at 6:20 AM on October 14, 2003
Damn. I last read this thread at around 1 pm EDT yesterday, when it was mostly polite perorations on the propriety of pie posts.
Now look.
I know, I know, 'MeFi has always been like this'. But still.
i_cola, that image reminds me of Gaiman's character, the Corinthian, but it's different, somehow...
posted by Slithy_Tove at 6:41 AM on October 14, 2003
Now look.
I know, I know, 'MeFi has always been like this'. But still.
i_cola, that image reminds me of Gaiman's character, the Corinthian, but it's different, somehow...
posted by Slithy_Tove at 6:41 AM on October 14, 2003
This is an entertaining thread, if ever there was one. I am just surprised that no one has made note of the juxtaposition of the "pumpkin pie" and "barely edible" posts on the front page.
By the way, anyone who participated in this thread should never, ever complain about Miguel's metatalk threads. 120 comments about a pumpkin pie thread that only got 42 comments itself? This is hilarious.
posted by TedW at 7:03 AM on October 14, 2003
By the way, anyone who participated in this thread should never, ever complain about Miguel's metatalk threads. 120 comments about a pumpkin pie thread that only got 42 comments itself? This is hilarious.
posted by TedW at 7:03 AM on October 14, 2003
Hoo doggies. I'm going to step carefully around most of these steaming piles and just address one of alicesshoe's wild remarks:
As for the snobs crticising The Joy of Cooking link, well, we all started somewhere. No doubt you're on to Le Cordon Bleu Classic French Cuisine, I'm fucking sure of it!
Calm down, sweetheart. Nobody's dissing The Joy of Cooking. As the first "snob" to criticize that aspect of the post, I assure you I love the book and have made many recipes from it. But like many others, I am disappointed with the new edition. Here's a representative reader's opinion I found online:
*steps gingerly back out of thread, holding nose*
posted by languagehat at 7:35 AM on October 14, 2003
As for the snobs crticising The Joy of Cooking link, well, we all started somewhere. No doubt you're on to Le Cordon Bleu Classic French Cuisine, I'm fucking sure of it!
Calm down, sweetheart. Nobody's dissing The Joy of Cooking. As the first "snob" to criticize that aspect of the post, I assure you I love the book and have made many recipes from it. But like many others, I am disappointed with the new edition. Here's a representative reader's opinion I found online:
I have 4 editions of the Joy: one from the 40's, one from the 50's; the 75 edition, and this one. The 50's & 75 eds are improvements on the original; they retain most of the best recipes, while updating certain sections and techniques. Not so with the "new" edition! Fewer than half of the original recipes are retained, and whole sections (Canning, Game) have been eliminated. While some of the new recipes are good, and the expanded vegetarian offerings are nice, this is no longer the Joy of Cooking that I've known and loved since I first learned to cook. All in all, disappointing.So don't be so fucking sure of things, OK?
*steps gingerly back out of thread, holding nose*
posted by languagehat at 7:35 AM on October 14, 2003
Thanks for that last post, languagehat. My 75 JOC is stained and burnt as any well-used cookbook should be and I was thinking of upgrading. The most useful parts of the book, however, are the chapters on techniques that are dying out (such as canning and game cookery); if these are gone, there is not much reason to get the new one. Anyway, I am glad to see something useful come out of this thread.
posted by TedW at 7:42 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by TedW at 7:42 AM on October 14, 2003
This thread is both the best and worst of MeFi.
I'm laughing and cringing...
posted by Argyle at 8:07 AM on October 14, 2003
I'm laughing and cringing...
posted by Argyle at 8:07 AM on October 14, 2003
aren't you all just bursting with pride?
Shurrely that's 'bursting with pie'..?
posted by i_cola at 8:22 AM on October 14, 2003
Shurrely that's 'bursting with pie'..?
posted by i_cola at 8:22 AM on October 14, 2003
Insulting behaviour is also sooooo limited, expression-wise. It's boring.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 1:59 PM PST on January 18
says who?
posted by clavdivs at 8:48 AM on October 14, 2003
posted by MiguelCardoso at 1:59 PM PST on January 18
says who?
posted by clavdivs at 8:48 AM on October 14, 2003
stavros, mind the pie all over the floor, it's slippery in here.
Must have been the full moon.
Thankyou languagehat for correcting me regarding the latest Joy. I thought it would be the same as my 1973 copy, it has canning, salting and smoking.
Thanks shane for a fine finish to a long pie eating fest.
posted by alicesshoe at 9:01 AM on October 14, 2003
Must have been the full moon.
Thankyou languagehat for correcting me regarding the latest Joy. I thought it would be the same as my 1973 copy, it has canning, salting and smoking.
Thanks shane for a fine finish to a long pie eating fest.
posted by alicesshoe at 9:01 AM on October 14, 2003
alicesshoe: dobbs, If beth has a beef with my comment she/he can address that on their own, I'm sure. Are you her/his daddy? Thanks for your input. Not that it matters much
wtf are you talking about, sparky? i never had a beef with your post and assume beth didn't either. i simply corrected TGC who said that you started this thread. perhaps you should get your own daddy to teach you how to follow a conversation.
posted by dobbs at 9:42 AM on October 14, 2003
wtf are you talking about, sparky? i never had a beef with your post and assume beth didn't either. i simply corrected TGC who said that you started this thread. perhaps you should get your own daddy to teach you how to follow a conversation.
posted by dobbs at 9:42 AM on October 14, 2003
"Please tell me that "here's my favorite recipe" FPP's are not going to become a habit."
a) It's worse than that.
b) That's been the habit for while now.
These types of posts overran MetaFilter long ago. It's all about some topic that happens to be on the mind of the poster. "I'm thinking about pie. Let's all talk about pie." It's no longer about the link. No longer about something on the web. No longer about something new. No longer about filtering the web.
MetaFilter is now a chat site for a closed community. And most members seem to be just fine with that. So expect old, stuffy rules about double posts, self links, and even requiring a link at all, to go bye bye.
Matt is now hosting this year's version of AOL chatrooms.
MetaFilter: What shall we chat about today?
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:48 AM on October 14, 2003
a) It's worse than that.
b) That's been the habit for while now.
These types of posts overran MetaFilter long ago. It's all about some topic that happens to be on the mind of the poster. "I'm thinking about pie. Let's all talk about pie." It's no longer about the link. No longer about something on the web. No longer about something new. No longer about filtering the web.
MetaFilter is now a chat site for a closed community. And most members seem to be just fine with that. So expect old, stuffy rules about double posts, self links, and even requiring a link at all, to go bye bye.
Matt is now hosting this year's version of AOL chatrooms.
MetaFilter: What shall we chat about today?
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:48 AM on October 14, 2003
wtf are you talking about, sparky? i never had a beef with your post and assume beth didn't either.
I've been kinda staying out of this one, since it got kinda... I don't know what to say, out of hand?
I think anyone who would accuse me of being whiny, tight-assed, or otherwise way out of line, would be a person who didn't read my initial post or first comment. Hey, c'mon, I was trying to be nice, not even going after fff by name or anything.
I was just trying to calmly get across the opinion that hey, at least one person would like it if we would please steer away from this sort of thing in the future. I wanted to see if anyone agreed with me. Then all hell broke loose.
As long as we're going to be chatty, in case anyone wonders what happened to me after I got fired for reading mefi, I got a new job at a nursing home as a CNA, and I'm planning to start the prerequisites for nursing school this spring. So if all goes according to plan I will get be an RN sometime in June 2007 or so.
Lots of hard work between here and there, though, but at least I am started on a plan to claw my way back to the middle class. I think I would have been bored and unchallenged at the job where they fired me, and would be making far less in 2007 than I hope to as an RN. So maybe I'll look back in ten years and realize that getting fired was one of the best things that happened to me. Time will tell.
posted by beth at 10:07 AM on October 14, 2003
I've been kinda staying out of this one, since it got kinda... I don't know what to say, out of hand?
I think anyone who would accuse me of being whiny, tight-assed, or otherwise way out of line, would be a person who didn't read my initial post or first comment. Hey, c'mon, I was trying to be nice, not even going after fff by name or anything.
I was just trying to calmly get across the opinion that hey, at least one person would like it if we would please steer away from this sort of thing in the future. I wanted to see if anyone agreed with me. Then all hell broke loose.
As long as we're going to be chatty, in case anyone wonders what happened to me after I got fired for reading mefi, I got a new job at a nursing home as a CNA, and I'm planning to start the prerequisites for nursing school this spring. So if all goes according to plan I will get be an RN sometime in June 2007 or so.
Lots of hard work between here and there, though, but at least I am started on a plan to claw my way back to the middle class. I think I would have been bored and unchallenged at the job where they fired me, and would be making far less in 2007 than I hope to as an RN. So maybe I'll look back in ten years and realize that getting fired was one of the best things that happened to me. Time will tell.
posted by beth at 10:07 AM on October 14, 2003
y6, there's at least a few good links everyday, no? Your public service is still very much appreciated, even if some of us cast a wider net. It can't be that bad. You're still here, after all, and so are the rest of us.
on preview: rock on, beth. congrats.
posted by PrinceValium at 10:10 AM on October 14, 2003
on preview: rock on, beth. congrats.
posted by PrinceValium at 10:10 AM on October 14, 2003
"It can't be that bad."
How so? What do you mean? Of course it's that bad. MetaFilter no longer has anything to do with filtering the web. It's now all about the members and what they want to chat about.
I'm not saying it's dead, it's just gone in a direction I personally think lessens the value immensely. With all the passion of the active members here I think we could create something better than a oddly structured chat forum.
"You're still here, after all, and so are the rest of us."
I love the place. Doesn't mean I'm not disappointed. Doesn't mean it couldn't better.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:21 AM on October 14, 2003
How so? What do you mean? Of course it's that bad. MetaFilter no longer has anything to do with filtering the web. It's now all about the members and what they want to chat about.
I'm not saying it's dead, it's just gone in a direction I personally think lessens the value immensely. With all the passion of the active members here I think we could create something better than a oddly structured chat forum.
"You're still here, after all, and so are the rest of us."
I love the place. Doesn't mean I'm not disappointed. Doesn't mean it couldn't better.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:21 AM on October 14, 2003
MetaFilter is now a chat site for a closed community. And most members seem to be just fine with that.
That's too simplistic an analysis. Some are okay with the "chat site" part, some are okay with the "closed community" part, some with both, some with neither. Let's not conflate very different issues.
posted by rushmc at 10:39 AM on October 14, 2003
That's too simplistic an analysis. Some are okay with the "chat site" part, some are okay with the "closed community" part, some with both, some with neither. Let's not conflate very different issues.
posted by rushmc at 10:39 AM on October 14, 2003
MetaFilter no longer has anything to do with filtering the web.The assumption being that the web is worth filtering any more. ;-P
posted by mischief at 10:47 AM on October 14, 2003
"That's too simplistic an analysis."
Of course. I think that goes without saying. But I'll stand by it anyway. I think most active members like MetaFilter the way it is. There is an undercurrent of whining about specific issues, but no real debate over whether it's broken.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:53 AM on October 14, 2003
Of course. I think that goes without saying. But I'll stand by it anyway. I think most active members like MetaFilter the way it is. There is an undercurrent of whining about specific issues, but no real debate over whether it's broken.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:53 AM on October 14, 2003
"The assumption being that the web is worth filtering any more."
This is something I think about a great deal.
It's true that in the "old days" of 97-01 there were many more hidden gems that you'd never find on your own. MetaFilter was a Mecca because it provided one stop shopping for the really good stuff. With web culture and technology exploding, MetaFilter (along with several other sites) had it's finger on the pulse.
But these days we've become jaded to things like Kvetch. Weblogs have started talking about news and stopped finding personal niche content. New designs have become nearly extinct. Discussions about standards and technology have become boring.
Wait....... Have they? I think not. These things are still out there. Still being linked on MetaFilter every once in a while. It's just that the culture here has changed. Now it's about the discussion.
On top of that I think people are lazier web surfers. I know I am. I used to read 10-20 blogs a day. Now I read 1-3.
The stuff is still out there. We just gave up on doing the hard work to find it. The focus now is on low hanging fruit. I'm not excusing myself here. Just making a point. I could spend an extra hour a day finding cool links. But I don't.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:24 AM on October 14, 2003
This is something I think about a great deal.
It's true that in the "old days" of 97-01 there were many more hidden gems that you'd never find on your own. MetaFilter was a Mecca because it provided one stop shopping for the really good stuff. With web culture and technology exploding, MetaFilter (along with several other sites) had it's finger on the pulse.
But these days we've become jaded to things like Kvetch. Weblogs have started talking about news and stopped finding personal niche content. New designs have become nearly extinct. Discussions about standards and technology have become boring.
Wait....... Have they? I think not. These things are still out there. Still being linked on MetaFilter every once in a while. It's just that the culture here has changed. Now it's about the discussion.
On top of that I think people are lazier web surfers. I know I am. I used to read 10-20 blogs a day. Now I read 1-3.
The stuff is still out there. We just gave up on doing the hard work to find it. The focus now is on low hanging fruit. I'm not excusing myself here. Just making a point. I could spend an extra hour a day finding cool links. But I don't.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:24 AM on October 14, 2003
"if only you ran MetaFilter......."
It would have died a long time ago. Personal experience has taught me that I suck more than most when it comes to leading and structuring web communities.
I tend to crap in my own stuff too often. It's all I can do to resist the urge to be an ass at MF Distilled. And I even fail at that sometimes.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:33 AM on October 14, 2003
It would have died a long time ago. Personal experience has taught me that I suck more than most when it comes to leading and structuring web communities.
I tend to crap in my own stuff too often. It's all I can do to resist the urge to be an ass at MF Distilled. And I even fail at that sometimes.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:33 AM on October 14, 2003
Well, this thread brought up a good point but thanks to all the stand-up comics that happen to be members it turned out to be an almost completely irrelevant discussion. I'm going to comment anyway.
I for one, am sick to death of the stupid injoking that happens here endlessly. It was funny in 2001, ok? Get over it. You're not postmodern, you're not clever, and you're certainly not funny, so give it a fucking rest. I realize that most people don't find me funny here, so I don't crack puns/drop in-jokes/make obscure pop-culture references. It's just a waste of time. The only person on this whole fucking board that is consistently funny is quonsar (and maybe Stan Chin, and Cold Chef, but I think he fell off the wagon somewhere). I didn't really care for the recipe thing, but it didn't bother me either. It seems a little too complex and drawn out to continue, so why worry?
In the past, I have been called a troll (deservedly so, in several cases). However, isn't dropping pointless and constant jokes somewhat trolling? It often completely derails what would have be a good thread, and probably disappoints the poster. When a thread devolves into name-calling and ad-hominems, it can be disappointing, but when it devolves into a constant barrage of unfunny jokes (like the thread where everyone wrote thank-you letters instead of commenting) its just a waste of time that you will only read once. This "comedy" isn't what keeps me coming back to MetaFilter.
posted by insomnyuk at 12:03 PM on October 14, 2003
I for one, am sick to death of the stupid injoking that happens here endlessly. It was funny in 2001, ok? Get over it. You're not postmodern, you're not clever, and you're certainly not funny, so give it a fucking rest. I realize that most people don't find me funny here, so I don't crack puns/drop in-jokes/make obscure pop-culture references. It's just a waste of time. The only person on this whole fucking board that is consistently funny is quonsar (and maybe Stan Chin, and Cold Chef, but I think he fell off the wagon somewhere). I didn't really care for the recipe thing, but it didn't bother me either. It seems a little too complex and drawn out to continue, so why worry?
In the past, I have been called a troll (deservedly so, in several cases). However, isn't dropping pointless and constant jokes somewhat trolling? It often completely derails what would have be a good thread, and probably disappoints the poster. When a thread devolves into name-calling and ad-hominems, it can be disappointing, but when it devolves into a constant barrage of unfunny jokes (like the thread where everyone wrote thank-you letters instead of commenting) its just a waste of time that you will only read once. This "comedy" isn't what keeps me coming back to MetaFilter.
posted by insomnyuk at 12:03 PM on October 14, 2003
if only you ran MetaFilter. God. If only....
And if BlueTrain was at the wheel? Yikes! Long live King Log!
posted by y2karl at 12:44 PM on October 14, 2003
And if BlueTrain was at the wheel? Yikes! Long live King Log!
posted by y2karl at 12:44 PM on October 14, 2003
when it devolves into a constant barrage of unfunny jokes its just a waste of time that you will only read once.Gee, you finally get it. This is our way of stating how pointless the whole thread is. Very few posts, funny or serious, are worthy of reading more than once.
This "comedy" isn't what keeps me coming back to MetaFilter.So skip the jokes.
posted by mischief at 12:45 PM on October 14, 2003
insomnyuk: You're in the wrong thread.
beth: Good for you! Thanks for brightening this dank thread (whose dankness is none of your doing; you were nice as pie).
posted by languagehat at 12:53 PM on October 14, 2003
beth: Good for you! Thanks for brightening this dank thread (whose dankness is none of your doing; you were nice as pie).
posted by languagehat at 12:53 PM on October 14, 2003
Yes, yes it does.
languagehat: i thought it somewhat applied, since the recipe thing has become a part of the injoking, and since much injoking took place in this thread. Thanks for the tip though, I'll remember you when I'm running the country.
posted by insomnyuk at 1:58 PM on October 14, 2003
languagehat: i thought it somewhat applied, since the recipe thing has become a part of the injoking, and since much injoking took place in this thread. Thanks for the tip though, I'll remember you when I'm running the country.
posted by insomnyuk at 1:58 PM on October 14, 2003
*makes sure passport is up to date*
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on October 14, 2003
posted by languagehat at 3:10 PM on October 14, 2003
Sorry dobbs, I thought The God Complex said it, but in my haste couldn't find it in that smoky haze of his.
I will stand by what I said to your "not that it matters much" as being passive-aggressive, sparky.
posted by alicesshoe at 5:03 PM on October 14, 2003
I will stand by what I said to your "not that it matters much" as being passive-aggressive, sparky.
posted by alicesshoe at 5:03 PM on October 14, 2003
Does anyone know what she's talking about? Anyone?
posted by The God Complex at 6:18 PM on October 14, 2003
posted by The God Complex at 6:18 PM on October 14, 2003
Thanks for the tip though, I'll remember you when I'm running the country.
I instantly heard this in the voice of the baby on The Family Guy. Now I can't read this or anything else he has written and not hear Stewie...
posted by y2karl at 7:57 PM on October 14, 2003
I instantly heard this in the voice of the baby on The Family Guy. Now I can't read this or anything else he has written and not hear Stewie...
posted by y2karl at 7:57 PM on October 14, 2003
As long as we're going to be chatty, in case anyone wonders what happened to me after I got fired for reading mefi, I got a new job at a nursing home as a CNA, and I'm planning to start the prerequisites for nursing school this spring. So if all goes according to plan I will get be an RN sometime in June 2007 or so.
Get your own blog.
posted by Samsonov14 at 8:00 PM on October 14, 2003
Get your own blog.
posted by Samsonov14 at 8:00 PM on October 14, 2003
And if BlueTrain was at the wheel? Yikes! Long live King Log!
::hears ax grinding::
Is that you y2karl? I thought that we had agreed that you'd back off me for some time...
Such a shame. I leave you with this:
I repeat, between just us two--who has the grudge here? He was not elected the judge here, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with these vendettas. He should mind his own business and stop constantly sniping at people he's picked fights with previously. His constant attacks on people on his shit list does this place no good. Everyone on his list leaves him alone except when he keeps bringing the same shit up over and over. Why should we have to turn the other cheek at his gratuitous attacks? Why are we at fault for not taking his shit silently? - y2karl
A tear was brought to my eye, until I felt the horrible hypocrisy that is your posting style. Post again when you bring some conviction to the table.
posted by BlueTrain at 10:27 PM on October 14, 2003
::hears ax grinding::
Is that you y2karl? I thought that we had agreed that you'd back off me for some time...
Such a shame. I leave you with this:
I repeat, between just us two--who has the grudge here? He was not elected the judge here, he shouldn't be allowed to get away with these vendettas. He should mind his own business and stop constantly sniping at people he's picked fights with previously. His constant attacks on people on his shit list does this place no good. Everyone on his list leaves him alone except when he keeps bringing the same shit up over and over. Why should we have to turn the other cheek at his gratuitous attacks? Why are we at fault for not taking his shit silently? - y2karl
A tear was brought to my eye, until I felt the horrible hypocrisy that is your posting style. Post again when you bring some conviction to the table.
posted by BlueTrain at 10:27 PM on October 14, 2003
I instantly heard this in the voice of the baby on The Family Guy. Now I can't read this or anything else he has written and not hear Stewie...
Yes, excellent. Victory is mine!
posted by insomnyuk at 11:22 PM on October 14, 2003
Yes, excellent. Victory is mine!
posted by insomnyuk at 11:22 PM on October 14, 2003
beth: Well done & good luck.
insomnyuk: If it's any consolation, you make me laugh a lot.
posted by i_cola at 3:12 AM on October 15, 2003
insomnyuk: If it's any consolation, you make me laugh a lot.
posted by i_cola at 3:12 AM on October 15, 2003
"As long as we're going to be chatty, in case anyone wonders what happened to me after I got fired for reading mefi, I got a new job at a nursing home as a CNA, and I'm planning to start the prerequisites for nursing school this spring. So if all goes according to plan I will get be an RN sometime in June 2007 or so.
Get your own blog."
Samsonov14, if you're going to go there, at least have the balls to finish it.
beth: Get your own blog, fuckwit.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:31 PM on October 15, 2003
Get your own blog."
Samsonov14, if you're going to go there, at least have the balls to finish it.
beth: Get your own blog, fuckwit.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:31 PM on October 15, 2003
beth, we need to have a chat about controlled sunstance availability once you get your RN.
posted by quonsar at 6:32 PM on October 15, 2003
posted by quonsar at 6:32 PM on October 15, 2003
I dunno, sunstance makes sense if you're blissed out on E, cavorting on some beach in the noonday sun.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:20 PM on October 15, 2003
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:20 PM on October 15, 2003
Get your own blog.
Bite me, Samsonov14.
And crash, since you piled on, you can spank me.
posted by beth at 8:39 PM on October 15, 2003
Bite me, Samsonov14.
And crash, since you piled on, you can spank me.
posted by beth at 8:39 PM on October 15, 2003
Knickers Knotted, Poetry Run Amuck, Smocks Folded, Fish Fried, Sphincters Clenched.
Rocket Launcher Shoots Pumpkin Pies to Hell.
And in other news - Scientists Report Trolls Actually Thrive on Pumpkin Pie.
Film at 11.
(Why do I bother reading MetaFilter when all the fun's in here these days?)
posted by batgrlHG at 12:15 AM on October 16, 2003
Rocket Launcher Shoots Pumpkin Pies to Hell.
And in other news - Scientists Report Trolls Actually Thrive on Pumpkin Pie.
Film at 11.
(Why do I bother reading MetaFilter when all the fun's in here these days?)
posted by batgrlHG at 12:15 AM on October 16, 2003
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Maybe my annoyance is heightened by the fact that the recipe in question was done in full in the comments, and not placed on the poster's website and linked to or something.
Anyway, here's one vote hoping we don't see more of the same of this kind of thing.
posted by beth at 9:37 AM on October 12, 2003