Close Signups, Please February 22, 2006 9:06 AM Subscribe
Dear Matt: If enough of us bitch loudly enough, will you close signups?
What if we flip out and order 192,387 anchovie pizzas?
COWABUNGA!
posted by selfnoise at 9:16 AM on February 22, 2006
COWABUNGA!
posted by selfnoise at 9:16 AM on February 22, 2006
Given sufficiently large values of "enough," I suppose he would, but I don't recommend trying it.
posted by Faint of Butt at 9:24 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Faint of Butt at 9:24 AM on February 22, 2006
It's definitely worth a try. You first.
posted by crunchland at 9:27 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by crunchland at 9:27 AM on February 22, 2006
FFS, quit yer bitching. Sure, every now and then a n00b gets indignant or makes lame posts or breaks the rules, but the constant influx of new blood keeps this site an interesting place the web. For every scammer, spammer or n00b who can't eb bothered to read the guidelines, there are many more new users who are a genuine positive addition to MeFi.
I suggest that the old-timers who don't like it go find a place where they can bitch amongst themselves, so the rest of us don't have to hear their incessant whiny-ass shit. I further suggest that they begin their search for such a place just beyond the River Styx.
posted by mds35 at 9:28 AM on February 22, 2006
I suggest that the old-timers who don't like it go find a place where they can bitch amongst themselves, so the rest of us don't have to hear their incessant whiny-ass shit. I further suggest that they begin their search for such a place just beyond the River Styx.
posted by mds35 at 9:28 AM on February 22, 2006
Looking at the user growth stats (derail: where are the numbers for January? I really wanna see 'em), it'd be somewhere between $1,000 and $1,500 a month that Matt'd be giving up by closing signups. I know I wouldn't be happy with that much of a paycut, unless it was made up for in a big way somehow...
posted by Gator at 9:33 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Gator at 9:33 AM on February 22, 2006
I suggest we just tax the heck out of the old-timers. 5$ for every month of past use?
posted by R. Mutt at 9:37 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by R. Mutt at 9:37 AM on February 22, 2006
Kwanstar, if enough of us bitch loudly enough will you quit your job?
posted by cedar at 9:37 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by cedar at 9:37 AM on February 22, 2006
Isn't this his job, now? I doubt he could afford to throw away the sign up money.
I think the site has grown too fast, and think there could be some merit in closing them for a period of time to smooth everything out. Maybe open them back up in '07. But as much as I think it might be a good idea from a community viewpoint, I don't think it is going to happen from a Matt standpoint because of the simple economics of it--more users means more signup fees and more eyeballs, which in turns effects ad revenue. And in the end, that is what matters here.
posted by dios at 9:40 AM on February 22, 2006
I think the site has grown too fast, and think there could be some merit in closing them for a period of time to smooth everything out. Maybe open them back up in '07. But as much as I think it might be a good idea from a community viewpoint, I don't think it is going to happen from a Matt standpoint because of the simple economics of it--more users means more signup fees and more eyeballs, which in turns effects ad revenue. And in the end, that is what matters here.
posted by dios at 9:40 AM on February 22, 2006
As the fraction of complainers approaches one, mathowie approaches the "DELETE MEFI 4EVA" button.
posted by jenovus at 9:40 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by jenovus at 9:40 AM on February 22, 2006
Are new users actually causing problems? What's the big deal?
posted by tweak at 9:43 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by tweak at 9:43 AM on February 22, 2006
What if user # 17438 succeeded in a "close signups" campaign? Would you enjoy the site more if that happened?
posted by bondcliff at 9:44 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by bondcliff at 9:44 AM on February 22, 2006
There's absolutely no reason to close sign-ups. But I do think an increase in the price as well as a tougher spam and self-link policy would be beneficial to both the site and to Matt's income. I'd pay ten dollars to be a member. Hell, if I keep getting in trouble, I just might have to anyway.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:46 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:46 AM on February 22, 2006
I'm a bit tired of the old-timer hatred for new users. It's old. Give it up.
Also, I take issue with the asumption that Matt's motivation for keeping signups open is financial.
The fact is, this place will shrivel and die if it becomes an exclusive club of tired old snarkmongers.
I lurked here for 2+ years before the floodgates opened, and I have to say I enjoy the site much more now than before. It's refreshing to see new usernames and new insghts. Some of you have been here too long, anyway. Some of you have been banned and suspended and yet you are still here whining about the n00bs. Get a life. Move on if you must. You might be missed.
posted by mds35 at 9:49 AM on February 22, 2006
Also, I take issue with the asumption that Matt's motivation for keeping signups open is financial.
The fact is, this place will shrivel and die if it becomes an exclusive club of tired old snarkmongers.
I lurked here for 2+ years before the floodgates opened, and I have to say I enjoy the site much more now than before. It's refreshing to see new usernames and new insghts. Some of you have been here too long, anyway. Some of you have been banned and suspended and yet you are still here whining about the n00bs. Get a life. Move on if you must. You might be missed.
posted by mds35 at 9:49 AM on February 22, 2006
Now that I am a member, I also agree with increasing the price :)
posted by empath at 9:49 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by empath at 9:49 AM on February 22, 2006
If we close sign-ups, MetaFilter's prestige and exclusiveness would increase dramatically. Think of FilePile or indietorrents or gmail when it first appeared. We could make membership invitation only!
posted by driveler at 9:54 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by driveler at 9:54 AM on February 22, 2006
I've argued, even recently, that new user registration should be closed. However, the last week has yielded some really great posts and discussions, and I'm starting to change my mind. However, I agree with OC that moderation needs to get a bit tougher.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 9:54 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 9:54 AM on February 22, 2006
that's odd, I checked Kwantsar's sign up date and it is the same day as mine... I certainly don't feel like an old timer, and in general I agree with Optimus Chyme's suggestions fwiw. With exceptions to the sign up fee under certain circumstances
posted by edgeways at 9:55 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by edgeways at 9:55 AM on February 22, 2006
OC's suggestion is amenable to me. Fewer real people would sign up on a whim, but $10 is still peanuts to a spammer.
posted by mds35 at 9:58 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by mds35 at 9:58 AM on February 22, 2006
Thank you, mds35, I agree with every single word you said. The newbies are an important source of new links and opinions. The disadvantages — dupes, self-links, and noise — are still surprisingly rare.
posted by Plutor at 10:02 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Plutor at 10:02 AM on February 22, 2006
You guys didn't know that MetaFilter is Kwanstar's personal club and that we are all here by his grace alone?
posted by xmutex at 10:03 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by xmutex at 10:03 AM on February 22, 2006
I think raising the price is a mistake. What we need to do is lower the barriers to entry for people who have something to offer the community (insightful posters), and raise it for those who don't (spammers and flamers). At one point, possibly pre-floodgates, there was a proposal for allowing non-users to submit posts to a moderation queue. If they were accepted, they would get accounts. This could still work: give free accounts to people who demonstrate they understand the community enough to make decent FPPs.
posted by Plutor at 10:05 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Plutor at 10:05 AM on February 22, 2006
Raising prices would increase the ratio of spammers to legitimate new signups.
$10 isn't much for a business to spend for a few hours of space on high-profile website before the account gets deleted. But $10 is a lot for someone with a casual interest in the site that has some interesting things to say.
posted by driveler at 10:10 AM on February 22, 2006
$10 isn't much for a business to spend for a few hours of space on high-profile website before the account gets deleted. But $10 is a lot for someone with a casual interest in the site that has some interesting things to say.
posted by driveler at 10:10 AM on February 22, 2006
Much more adspam from the newbies, much more noise and duplication from the old guard. Cutting off new memberships would help to alleviate the former, but would do little to alleviate the latter.
More moderators and more moderation by them is a better solution to the adspam, noise and dupe problems.
posted by solid-one-love at 10:12 AM on February 22, 2006
More moderators and more moderation by them is a better solution to the adspam, noise and dupe problems.
posted by solid-one-love at 10:12 AM on February 22, 2006
Kwantsar, how would you have felt if this had been proposed before you signed up.
What's that? Suddenly you change your mind?
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 10:15 AM on February 22, 2006
What's that? Suddenly you change your mind?
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 10:15 AM on February 22, 2006
selfnoise said it best.
posted by fire&wings at 10:22 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by fire&wings at 10:22 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by googly at 10:27 AM on February 22, 2006
The disadvantages — dupes, self-links, and noise — are still surprisingly rare.
However, I'd be we enter the realm of diminishing returns when we examine the noise-to-signal ratio from old-timers. I haven;'t done the research, but it seems to me that not as many n00bs as oldies clutter the blue and gray with lame callouts, offensive ad-hominems and whiny diatribes.
posted by mds35 at 10:30 AM on February 22, 2006
However, I'd be we enter the realm of diminishing returns when we examine the noise-to-signal ratio from old-timers. I haven;'t done the research, but it seems to me that not as many n00bs as oldies clutter the blue and gray with lame callouts, offensive ad-hominems and whiny diatribes.
posted by mds35 at 10:30 AM on February 22, 2006
Look at the happiness in this thread (announcing that new signups were turned back on). It's probably the happiest thread in the history of Metatalk. It's hard to say no to that.
posted by Prospero at 10:32 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Prospero at 10:32 AM on February 22, 2006
I bet the waxy.org chart is very misleading. I seem to recall mathowie saying that anyone who initiates a signup is assigned a user ID regardless of whether they pay the 5 bucks or not -- and many don't finish the transaction. Not that the money is particularly relevant, he likely makes much more in ad revenue anyway.
FWIW, I say keep the registrations open. The site is still recovering from the inbreeding, clubbiness and feuds that developed when it was closed.
posted by Rumple at 10:39 AM on February 22, 2006
FWIW, I say keep the registrations open. The site is still recovering from the inbreeding, clubbiness and feuds that developed when it was closed.
posted by Rumple at 10:39 AM on February 22, 2006
I lurked here for like five years before I finally signed up. I'm glad when I finally decided to join that I could just pay 5 bucks and get in, instead of like back in the day when you had to pounce on a few measly signups early in the morning, or wait a few months for the next time Matt opened it up briefly. I remember trying for a few of those and not getting in. It sucked.
posted by evariste at 10:39 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by evariste at 10:39 AM on February 22, 2006
I fellated matt behind a dumpster for my membership. On the whole I'd rather have paid $5 since it left a somewhat bitter taste in my mouth afterwards.
posted by longbaugh at 10:41 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by longbaugh at 10:41 AM on February 22, 2006
Pfft.
Howsabout we start puttin' some of the cranky, feud-fueling oldtimers on an ice floe?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:46 AM on February 22, 2006
Howsabout we start puttin' some of the cranky, feud-fueling oldtimers on an ice floe?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:46 AM on February 22, 2006
We could make membership invitation only!
This actually sounds like a decent idea to me. Make membership free, but invite only. Assuming Matt can keep the site running smoothly without the revenue from fees. Or alternatively, free with invite, or $5 without an invite.
Or, as many have suggested, things could be left the way they are because most of us n00bs aren't that bad.
posted by gauchodaspampas at 10:50 AM on February 22, 2006
This actually sounds like a decent idea to me. Make membership free, but invite only. Assuming Matt can keep the site running smoothly without the revenue from fees. Or alternatively, free with invite, or $5 without an invite.
Or, as many have suggested, things could be left the way they are because most of us n00bs aren't that bad.
posted by gauchodaspampas at 10:50 AM on February 22, 2006
I Just signed up today because I was inspired by this thread. I've been lurking for about 4 years now and I also tried to join way back when signups were restricted. I promise to play by the rules!
posted by Alpenglow at 10:51 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Alpenglow at 10:51 AM on February 22, 2006
I'm a bit tired of the old-timer hatred for new users. It's old. Give it up.
Wow, a few from the 17k club pipe up about this and suddenly it's "old-timer hatred"? They're not even as old as the 14k club, let alone us sacred "pre-closure, free-range" cows.
The real "old timers" around here, FWIW, tend to be the biggest supporters of new blood.
posted by mkultra at 10:54 AM on February 22, 2006
Wow, a few from the 17k club pipe up about this and suddenly it's "old-timer hatred"? They're not even as old as the 14k club, let alone us sacred "pre-closure, free-range" cows.
The real "old timers" around here, FWIW, tend to be the biggest supporters of new blood.
posted by mkultra at 10:54 AM on February 22, 2006
If Matt lost his mind and closed signups, how would we get sockpuppets?
But seriously. We each get 1/40,000th of a vote, and Matt gets 2 votes. You're spinning your wheels for nothing.
posted by grateful at 10:55 AM on February 22, 2006
But seriously. We each get 1/40,000th of a vote, and Matt gets 2 votes. You're spinning your wheels for nothing.
posted by grateful at 10:55 AM on February 22, 2006
How about we all donate money to a "close sign-ups" fund? For as long as we can give him an income greater or equal to that of signups, he can keep the sign-ups closed. When we no longer are able to donate the amount, he opens it back up.
posted by TwelveTwo at 10:57 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by TwelveTwo at 10:57 AM on February 22, 2006
In the interest of compromise, I propose that Matt caps new registrations at 10,000 per month.
posted by mischief at 10:59 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by mischief at 10:59 AM on February 22, 2006
Kwanstar - I was wondering why the concern. Speaking as a long time lurker, and relative noob (at the 11/04 spike), it seems to me that a lot of snarkiness comes from the "older" crowd. Personally, I tend to be very conscious of myself whenever I comment (yes, even here!).
But it's up to user #1. His house, his rules. All hail user #1!!!
*exits groveling*
posted by ObscureReferenceMan at 11:00 AM on February 22, 2006
But it's up to user #1. His house, his rules. All hail user #1!!!
*exits groveling*
posted by ObscureReferenceMan at 11:00 AM on February 22, 2006
I propose we juts keep new members from commenting and posting for … let's see … how long have I been a member?
That long.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:07 AM on February 22, 2006
That long.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:07 AM on February 22, 2006
I agree with #19375's suggestion; that way #1's livelihood isn't jeopardized, and it allows #17439 and others who agree with him to put their money where their mouths are.
Sincerely, #29872.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:10 AM on February 22, 2006
Sincerely, #29872.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:10 AM on February 22, 2006
Oh man, wouldn't it be fun if nobody had usernames and only our usernumbers were displayed sitewide? That'd make an awesome April Fool's Day prank.
posted by Gator at 11:13 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by Gator at 11:13 AM on February 22, 2006
It'd be an even more awesome prank if user numbers were no longer displayed at all, just names.
(#23920 here, so what the fuck do I know?)
posted by dersins at 11:26 AM on February 22, 2006
(#23920 here, so what the fuck do I know?)
posted by dersins at 11:26 AM on February 22, 2006
We could make membership invitation only!
That's all we need is for all the regulars to invite people who only share their viewpoint so the threads can fill up with even MORE infighting and more people can come over to MeTa to tell mom whenever someone on the playground isn't playing the game the same exact way they play it.
I can see the Craigslist ad now: "Wanted: people with strong opinions about SUV driving obese airline passengers who smoke. Must be able to type 100 wpm and be available to follow dios and parisparamus around and accuse them of trolling if their cookie recipes in AskMe differ from that of the Hive-Mind."
Membership should be open and cheap. When there are more wheels it makes it easier to ignore the squeaky ones.
Seems like just yesterday people were complaining that ol' # 2726 was sure-fire proof that MeFi had way too many members and all the new blood was a sure sign of its demise.
posted by bondcliff at 11:26 AM on February 22, 2006
That's all we need is for all the regulars to invite people who only share their viewpoint so the threads can fill up with even MORE infighting and more people can come over to MeTa to tell mom whenever someone on the playground isn't playing the game the same exact way they play it.
I can see the Craigslist ad now: "Wanted: people with strong opinions about SUV driving obese airline passengers who smoke. Must be able to type 100 wpm and be available to follow dios and parisparamus around and accuse them of trolling if their cookie recipes in AskMe differ from that of the Hive-Mind."
Membership should be open and cheap. When there are more wheels it makes it easier to ignore the squeaky ones.
Seems like just yesterday people were complaining that ol' # 2726 was sure-fire proof that MeFi had way too many members and all the new blood was a sure sign of its demise.
posted by bondcliff at 11:26 AM on February 22, 2006
From the "new memberships now available" thread:
Hello.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:26 AM PST on November 18
*shivers*
posted by Baby_Balrog at 11:27 AM on February 22, 2006
Hello.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:26 AM PST on November 18
*shivers*
posted by Baby_Balrog at 11:27 AM on February 22, 2006
#26432, that is a horrible idea. I am not a number!
posted by TwelveTwo at 11:30 AM on February 22, 2006
posted by TwelveTwo at 11:30 AM on February 22, 2006
How about we all donate money to a "close sign-ups" fund? For as long as we can give him an income greater or equal to that of signups, he can keep the sign-ups closed. When we no longer are able to donate the amount, he opens it back up.
Another alternative would be if we could pay $5 to have someone's account deleted. Although I could be among the first to go, it would increase the productivity of the hive mind dramatically and I am prepared to sacrifice myself for this lofty goal.
I enjoyed it here much much more when sign-ups were closed, but it ain't never going to happen, so accept it, lie back and think of England.
posted by dg at 11:56 AM on February 22, 2006
I like all the new blood.
I too noticed, like mkultra, that everyone here marked as a complaining old-timer has a 17k or 18k userid.
Sure, there have been some ugly spam incidents recently but if you actually take time to notice how many new users have joined in that time, how many great new contributors have posted, you'll realize that you're letting the small distracting noise, the one broken pixel on your mefi screen, distract you from the fact that everything else, in context, is working pretty smoothly.
posted by vacapinta at 12:05 PM on February 22, 2006
I too noticed, like mkultra, that everyone here marked as a complaining old-timer has a 17k or 18k userid.
Sure, there have been some ugly spam incidents recently but if you actually take time to notice how many new users have joined in that time, how many great new contributors have posted, you'll realize that you're letting the small distracting noise, the one broken pixel on your mefi screen, distract you from the fact that everything else, in context, is working pretty smoothly.
posted by vacapinta at 12:05 PM on February 22, 2006
Also, I think the way Kwantsar posed the question "if enough of us bitch loudly" has now pretty much ensured that it wil not happen.
posted by vacapinta at 12:07 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by vacapinta at 12:07 PM on February 22, 2006
I think all the new users are just hitting their strides. They've gotten used to the place, and are willing to take risks and come out and play. This is where it starts getting good. The occasional spammer gives the community a chance to grind their bones together.
posted by crunchland at 12:10 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by crunchland at 12:10 PM on February 22, 2006
I'm not worthy. I bow down before your superior selves in abject contrition. *self-flagellates*
Or, you know, what mds35 and Plutor said.
posted by moira at 12:21 PM on February 22, 2006
Or, you know, what mds35 and Plutor said.
posted by moira at 12:21 PM on February 22, 2006
I think MetaFilter was sexier when she wouldn't have anything to do with me.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:34 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:34 PM on February 22, 2006
vacapinta: that bum pixel is enraging! ARRRRR!
There's a cream for that.
posted by hangashore at 12:36 PM on February 22, 2006
There's a cream for that.
posted by hangashore at 12:36 PM on February 22, 2006
Fffffffffffrreessssshhhhhhhh bllllllooooooooooooddd!
posted by raedyn at 12:40 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by raedyn at 12:40 PM on February 22, 2006
Wow, i'm glad i wasn't such an internet junkie back when it was exclusive. I've lurked for a while, and am sufficiently intimidated that i'll be on my best behavior and minimize all activities which might be considered environmentally harmful (and probably won't muster the courage to make an FPP for a long, long time). Isn't it enough that people can be banned?
posted by xanthippe at 12:41 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by xanthippe at 12:41 PM on February 22, 2006
#26432, that is a horrible idea. I am not a number!
posted by TwelveTwo at 2:30 PM EST on February 22 [!]
Okay, that cracked me up. Well played, friend, well played.
posted by Faint of Butt at 12:48 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by TwelveTwo at 2:30 PM EST on February 22 [!]
Okay, that cracked me up. Well played, friend, well played.
posted by Faint of Butt at 12:48 PM on February 22, 2006
"I think all the new users are just hitting their strides."
Careful with that 'all', Eugene.
posted by mischief at 1:01 PM on February 22, 2006
Careful with that 'all', Eugene.
posted by mischief at 1:01 PM on February 22, 2006
replace "bitch loudly" with "pay money" and you might have something here
posted by scarabic at 1:24 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by scarabic at 1:24 PM on February 22, 2006
Kwanstar - I was wondering why the concern. Speaking as a long time lurker, and relative noob (at the 11/04 spike), it seems to me that a lot of snarkiness comes from the "older" crowd. Personally, I tend to be very conscious of myself whenever I comment (yes, even here!).
But it's up to user #1. His house, his rules. All hail user #1!!!
*exits groveling*
posted by ObscureReferenceMan at 2:00 PM EST on February 22 [!]
Incidentally, ORM, you may have noticed that Kwantsar's username is even a snark.
posted by Pollomacho at 1:28 PM on February 22, 2006
But it's up to user #1. His house, his rules. All hail user #1!!!
*exits groveling*
posted by ObscureReferenceMan at 2:00 PM EST on February 22 [!]
Incidentally, ORM, you may have noticed that Kwantsar's username is even a snark.
posted by Pollomacho at 1:28 PM on February 22, 2006
I remember the days when I was waiting for user 15225 so there would be more people on top of me than under me.
This 7k'er thinks at the moment there's nothing wrong with memberships staying open- at least for a while.
After all, when membership was closed I was killed in a game for "belonging to that elitist metafilter site." And we liked it because it was all we had.
posted by drezdn at 1:29 PM on February 22, 2006
This 7k'er thinks at the moment there's nothing wrong with memberships staying open- at least for a while.
After all, when membership was closed I was killed in a game for "belonging to that elitist metafilter site." And we liked it because it was all we had.
posted by drezdn at 1:29 PM on February 22, 2006
Instead of caps, how about forcing some attrition? Like deleting users who've posted nothing in the last n months?
posted by Rash at 1:36 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Rash at 1:36 PM on February 22, 2006
How would that force attrition? If users haven't posted in n months, they're already gone. What good would deleting the accounts do?
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:40 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:40 PM on February 22, 2006
why?
posted by crunchland at 1:41 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by crunchland at 1:41 PM on February 22, 2006
If users haven't posted in n months, they're already gone. What good would deleting the accounts do?
Why, it would reduce the strain on the server, of course.
posted by grateful at 1:43 PM on February 22, 2006
Why, it would reduce the strain on the server, of course.
posted by grateful at 1:43 PM on February 22, 2006
Kind of like yelling, "Yeah! And STAY out!" at your unwanted guests who are already halfway down the block towards their car and fiddling with their keys.
posted by Gator at 1:47 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Gator at 1:47 PM on February 22, 2006
how about forcing some attrition? Like deleting users who've posted nothing in the last n months? - Rash
Then you'd be encouraging people to post complete crap just to keep form being deleted. Lame.
posted by raedyn at 1:49 PM on February 22, 2006
Then you'd be encouraging people to post complete crap just to keep form being deleted. Lame.
posted by raedyn at 1:49 PM on February 22, 2006
30 posts, and then into the carousel, with the possibility of renewal. I know those people with the ankhs claim nobody is ever renewed, but they're crazy, and that's why the Sandmen kill them.
posted by Astro Zombie at 1:50 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Astro Zombie at 1:50 PM on February 22, 2006
You got her. I'm a Lara Lindsay man myself.
posted by Astro Zombie at 2:09 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Astro Zombie at 2:09 PM on February 22, 2006
What raedyn said - it would not help site content, which should be the deciding factor in any proposed changes to MeFi.
However, if our membership numbers got bumped up (Or is that bumped down?) everytime a dormant account was fed into the wood chipper, I'd be behind it 33082% - no wait, 33081% - no wait...
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 2:13 PM on February 22, 2006
However, if our membership numbers got bumped up (Or is that bumped down?) everytime a dormant account was fed into the wood chipper, I'd be behind it 33082% - no wait, 33081% - no wait...
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 2:13 PM on February 22, 2006
How about an enrollment season? Two to four times a year sign ups will be open for a month. That way when a banhammer comes down it will actually have some bite (aside from the $5 donation), because they'll have to wait for signups to re-open. It won't affect the amount of new users (it'll hopefully make some of them less ignorant), but will force people to lurk a while. And those who got banned will be forced to lurk a while before they can pony up another $5 for an account. Just a thought.
posted by Mijo Bijo at 2:20 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Mijo Bijo at 2:20 PM on February 22, 2006
Making it so hovering the cursor over the username does not reveal the user number would help some, I think. It could still be visible if you could be bothered to go to their user-page.
posted by Rumple at 2:21 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Rumple at 2:21 PM on February 22, 2006
And take away the only shred of dignity I have, my low user number?! YOU MUST BE MAD!
posted by crunchland at 2:25 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by crunchland at 2:25 PM on February 22, 2006
This thread isn't about me. It was an honest question, and my feelings aren't strong either way.
I asked it publically because I figured that someone else might like to see the answers.
posted by Kwantsar at 2:31 PM on February 22, 2006
I asked it publically because I figured that someone else might like to see the answers.
posted by Kwantsar at 2:31 PM on February 22, 2006
It's freaking high-larious to me that someone with a user # of 17439 proceeds to harrass "newbies" and then is called an "old timer" by even newer n00bs. I agree with crunchie and vacapinta - getting settled in and contributing good stuff is what I see from many of the newest folks. And longbaugh: you suck!
posted by Lynsey at 2:39 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Lynsey at 2:39 PM on February 22, 2006
How about an enrollment season? Two to four times a year sign ups will be open for a month. That way when a banhammer comes down it will actually have some bite
I don't mind the n00bs at all, but this idea is appealing. Even one day of sign-ups a week or something.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 2:40 PM on February 22, 2006
I don't mind the n00bs at all, but this idea is appealing. Even one day of sign-ups a week or something.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 2:40 PM on February 22, 2006
"Two to four times a year sign ups will be open for a month."
Or, whenever the PTB needs a new case of Huggies.
posted by mischief at 2:48 PM on February 22, 2006
Or, whenever the PTB needs a new case of Huggies.
posted by mischief at 2:48 PM on February 22, 2006
I think we can all agree that if your user number is > 15639, you're a nOOb.
posted by horsewithnoname at 2:49 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by horsewithnoname at 2:49 PM on February 22, 2006
if the momentary noise caused by a new user learning the ropes was reason enough to close sign ups, there'd still be just one user. Who here DIDN"T step on a few toes while they were new?
posted by Tryptophan-5ht at 2:54 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Tryptophan-5ht at 2:54 PM on February 22, 2006
This thread isn't about me. It was an honest question, and my feelings aren't strong either way.
I asked it publically because I figured that someone else might like to see the answers.
posted by Kwantsar at 5:31 PM EST on February 22 [!]
hahahahaha
posted by trey at 2:55 PM on February 22, 2006
I asked it publically because I figured that someone else might like to see the answers.
posted by Kwantsar at 5:31 PM EST on February 22 [!]
hahahahaha
posted by trey at 2:55 PM on February 22, 2006
What part of
"Not really, no.
posted by mathowie at 9:08 AM PST on February 22 [!]"
do you not understand?
posted by Cranberry at 3:06 PM on February 22, 2006
"Not really, no.
posted by mathowie at 9:08 AM PST on February 22 [!]"
do you not understand?
posted by Cranberry at 3:06 PM on February 22, 2006
I think all the new users are just hitting their strides. They've gotten used to the place, and are willing to take risks and come out and play. This is where it starts getting good.
I would agree with you, but it's a never-ending stream, so there's always a cohort wandering around dazed, bumping their heads on stuff and posting the equivalent of 'administrator please hope me' (along with the savvy sexpot smartytypes that are also joining up in somewhat reassuring numbers).
I'd like to see periods where the door is closed, to bed down the growificated userbase and let us catch up on who the hell is who, followed by opening it up again. But Matt's apparently not going to consider that, and he's not going to tell us why, so you know, fuck it.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:15 PM on February 22, 2006
I would agree with you, but it's a never-ending stream, so there's always a cohort wandering around dazed, bumping their heads on stuff and posting the equivalent of 'administrator please hope me' (along with the savvy sexpot smartytypes that are also joining up in somewhat reassuring numbers).
I'd like to see periods where the door is closed, to bed down the growificated userbase and let us catch up on who the hell is who, followed by opening it up again. But Matt's apparently not going to consider that, and he's not going to tell us why, so you know, fuck it.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:15 PM on February 22, 2006
"If you're not 2 digits or less, then your user number is crap!
posted by jeffp at 10:08 AM PST on July 23 [!]"
posted by #13 in 2002
Did he ever post again?
posted by Cranberry at 3:15 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by jeffp at 10:08 AM PST on July 23 [!]"
posted by #13 in 2002
Did he ever post again?
posted by Cranberry at 3:15 PM on February 22, 2006
Speaking as a long time lurker, and relative noob (at the 11/04 spike), it seems to me that a lot of snarkiness comes from the "older" crowd.
Are you saying that the snarkiness is the problem around here? Sheesh. But that's beside your point. Sure the snarkyness COMES FROM the older crowd, but it's only because they're moved to direct it AT YOU when you demonstrate your need to STFU N00B.
posted by scarabic at 3:34 PM on February 22, 2006
Are you saying that the snarkiness is the problem around here? Sheesh. But that's beside your point. Sure the snarkyness COMES FROM the older crowd, but it's only because they're moved to direct it AT YOU when you demonstrate your need to STFU N00B.
posted by scarabic at 3:34 PM on February 22, 2006
.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:40 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:40 PM on February 22, 2006
I'm all for new blood......
...........and brainnssssss
posted by Joeforking at 3:56 PM on February 22, 2006
...........and brainnssssss
posted by Joeforking at 3:56 PM on February 22, 2006
I'm having a 1448s-Only circlejerk and y'all aren't invited.
Man, it's lonely.
posted by darukaru at 4:10 PM on February 22, 2006
Man, it's lonely.
posted by darukaru at 4:10 PM on February 22, 2006
"i have a fish. in my pants. it refuses to join."
Ah, but join what? That's the question.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:15 PM on February 22, 2006
Ah, but join what? That's the question.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:15 PM on February 22, 2006
moderation needs to get a bit tougher
Yes. A thousand times yes. Matt, I understand the positive sides of continued growth, but without scaling up the moderation to match the growth, you're just asking for trouble.
Here, trouble trouble trouble...
posted by mediareport at 4:17 PM on February 22, 2006
Yes. A thousand times yes. Matt, I understand the positive sides of continued growth, but without scaling up the moderation to match the growth, you're just asking for trouble.
Here, trouble trouble trouble...
posted by mediareport at 4:17 PM on February 22, 2006
Dood. Next you'll be saying we need clear guidelines, too. Pshaw! And Matt has already scaled the moderator staff to 2. What do you want? 3????? Stop talking crazy.
posted by scarabic at 5:19 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by scarabic at 5:19 PM on February 22, 2006
3. That'll just give us 50% more metatalk threads bitching about moderation. Sweet!
posted by graventy at 5:20 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by graventy at 5:20 PM on February 22, 2006
but without scaling up the moderation to match the growth, you're just asking for trouble.
You forgot to take into account the people that quit when the first moderator started. That easily allows for continued growth through FY2006 before addional help is needed. I don't want to go through that mess again.
posted by my sock puppet account at 5:27 PM on February 22, 2006
You forgot to take into account the people that quit when the first moderator started. That easily allows for continued growth through FY2006 before addional help is needed. I don't want to go through that mess again.
posted by my sock puppet account at 5:27 PM on February 22, 2006
There is an Enron (unlimited growth) joke in here somewhere....
posted by R. Mutt at 5:42 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by R. Mutt at 5:42 PM on February 22, 2006
Anyone over 10,000 should be required to give a dollar to everyone less than 8000 or they can get out of that requirement by giving $5000 to one active member in the 7ks.
posted by drezdn at 6:26 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by drezdn at 6:26 PM on February 22, 2006
Raising the price of admission to $20 would solve all problems and continue the revenue stream.
posted by drpynchon at 6:39 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by drpynchon at 6:39 PM on February 22, 2006
I just registered 600 sock puppets. So please close signups.
See ya on eBay, suckas!
posted by popechunk at 7:38 PM on February 22, 2006
See ya on eBay, suckas!
posted by popechunk at 7:38 PM on February 22, 2006
$3000 well spent. Kudos to you!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:08 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:08 PM on February 22, 2006
Man, Kwantsar, I wanted your economic-minded commenting on some immigration thread a couple days ago, and where were you? Not obsessively searching the site for your user name, that's where.
(It'd be a neat experiment to have new signups limited to one day a week. I'd support that, at least for a while.)
posted by klangklangston at 8:16 PM on February 22, 2006
(It'd be a neat experiment to have new signups limited to one day a week. I'd support that, at least for a while.)
posted by klangklangston at 8:16 PM on February 22, 2006
As a new member and long time looking-around-here-when-I-should-be-working, I will honestly endeavor not to mess up anyone's internet. In truth, I'm a little scared to post to the front page. You guys can be mean.
posted by gordie at 8:41 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by gordie at 8:41 PM on February 22, 2006
Fuck it. I say we kick the old farts out. Anyone with a number sub 17k has to sign up again. Everyone above 17k gets pushed to the front of the queue; lather rinse repeat every two years or so. Pretty soon, new users signing up will be intermixed with the rolling two year expiration, and no one will know for sure how long someone's been on the site.
Or, you know, drop the usernumber reference scheme and link the profiles to the name (a la metachat).
posted by Eideteker at 8:41 PM on February 22, 2006
Or, you know, drop the usernumber reference scheme and link the profiles to the name (a la metachat).
posted by Eideteker at 8:41 PM on February 22, 2006
Or, close membership until everyone who got in for free has ponied up a finsky.
No Noobs + Uninterrupted Flow of Lucre = Everyone Wins!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:57 PM on February 22, 2006
No Noobs + Uninterrupted Flow of Lucre = Everyone Wins!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:57 PM on February 22, 2006
Bottom line, it's not a democracy. Some old timers are like Matt's old buddies who are lounging in his living room with their feet on the furniture drinking his beer, bitching about the new arrivals at the party who are polite and interesting (for the most part), and have brought along a six pack and some chips. Ok, so they brought the beer and chips just for Matt, but still...
At the same time, I understand the concern that this place won't be the same once there are fifty, one hundred thousand, or a quarter of a million users. But I'm sure some folks felt the same way when #10,000 signed up.
posted by Devils Slide at 9:13 PM on February 22, 2006
At the same time, I understand the concern that this place won't be the same once there are fifty, one hundred thousand, or a quarter of a million users. But I'm sure some folks felt the same way when #10,000 signed up.
posted by Devils Slide at 9:13 PM on February 22, 2006
Spamming and self-linking isn't a problem. It's a growing problem, sure, but we're hardly at the point where we need to start cutting the throats of the children to survive. (sniff). And it's definitely the case that a lot of the snark/invective/noise/derails/bad-posts that hurt the site a lot more than your ocassional Joe Spammer is coming from the older users, not the recently joined. We will need stronger requirements over when you get to post an FPP (it should be based on number of comments also, not just time), when you get to post a projects link (never--let moderators approve each and every project request), and when you get to put a question in AskMe question (upon successful delivery of a quart of blood, perhaps--really there are too many questions).
posted by nixerman at 9:25 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by nixerman at 9:25 PM on February 22, 2006
Closing signups is a stupid idea. Why don't y'all whiners go start your own damn l33t blog? (And no, I would not join that site if you paid me.)
Or maybe instead of bitching and kvetching, post something good yourselves.
posted by davy at 10:18 PM on February 22, 2006
Or maybe instead of bitching and kvetching, post something good yourselves.
posted by davy at 10:18 PM on February 22, 2006
Do you know who else thought NOOBs needed to STFU?
Hitler.
posted by Balisong at 11:00 PM on February 22, 2006
Hitler.
posted by Balisong at 11:00 PM on February 22, 2006
First they came for the 30 k'ers, and I said nothing...
posted by Devils Slide at 11:24 PM on February 22, 2006
posted by Devils Slide at 11:24 PM on February 22, 2006
Stalin's response, "O RLY?" immediately preceeded the great purge.
posted by gsteff at 1:02 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by gsteff at 1:02 AM on February 23, 2006
In a tradition that dates back to Marcus ORLYus, of course.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:10 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:10 AM on February 23, 2006
We will need stronger requirements over when you get to post an FPP (it should be based on number of comments also, not just time)
We have that now -- you have to make three comments and wait a week after signing up before taking the FPP plunge. Setting the bar higher than three comments, some have said, would just encourage people to post more noise/throwaway comments so they can get their FPP in.
posted by Gator at 4:25 AM on February 23, 2006
We have that now -- you have to make three comments and wait a week after signing up before taking the FPP plunge. Setting the bar higher than three comments, some have said, would just encourage people to post more noise/throwaway comments so they can get their FPP in.
posted by Gator at 4:25 AM on February 23, 2006
Now, the Star-Belly Sneeches
Had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneeches
Had none upon thars.
Those stars weren't so big. They were really so small
You might think such a thing wouldn't matter at all.
But because they had stars, all the Star-belly Sneeches
Would brag, "We're the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches."
With thier snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort
"We'll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!"
posted by R. Mutt at 5:46 AM on February 23, 2006
Had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneeches
Had none upon thars.
Those stars weren't so big. They were really so small
You might think such a thing wouldn't matter at all.
But because they had stars, all the Star-belly Sneeches
Would brag, "We're the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches."
With thier snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort
"We'll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!"
posted by R. Mutt at 5:46 AM on February 23, 2006
Who here DIDN"T step on a few toes while they were new? - Tryptophan-5ht
Me. Instead I just went unnoticed for years.
posted by raedyn at 6:13 AM on February 23, 2006
Me. Instead I just went unnoticed for years.
posted by raedyn at 6:13 AM on February 23, 2006
what Blip said ; >
i think the overwhelming majority of the new people rock--but think maybe there are solutions to the people who are joining just to spam and sell--how about a reverse googlead type thing, but it sits always at the bottom of the front page? It would be highlighted or a different color with a clear label (like those paid google results are), but would otherwise look and act like a real FPP with comments and everything.
I betcha Matt could charge a ton for them.
posted by amberglow at 6:57 AM on February 23, 2006
i think the overwhelming majority of the new people rock--but think maybe there are solutions to the people who are joining just to spam and sell--how about a reverse googlead type thing, but it sits always at the bottom of the front page? It would be highlighted or a different color with a clear label (like those paid google results are), but would otherwise look and act like a real FPP with comments and everything.
I betcha Matt could charge a ton for them.
posted by amberglow at 6:57 AM on February 23, 2006
This O RLY nonsense is more annoying than any new posters.
posted by trey at 7:16 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by trey at 7:16 AM on February 23, 2006
Reopening user signups was the best thing to ever happen to this site. The site began to stagnate during the long drought.
On another note, this is one of the funniest threads I've read in awhile. Thank you.
posted by Apoch at 7:23 AM on February 23, 2006
On another note, this is one of the funniest threads I've read in awhile. Thank you.
posted by Apoch at 7:23 AM on February 23, 2006
Fuck it. I say we kick the old farts out. Anyone with a number sub 17k has to sign up again. Everyone above 17k gets pushed to the front of the queue; lather rinse repeat every two years or so. Pretty soon, new users signing up will be intermixed with the rolling two year expiration, and no one will know for sure how long someone's been on the site.
If you had any balls whatsoever, you'd just take us all out behind the shed and shoot us.
posted by mkultra at 7:44 AM on February 23, 2006
If you had any balls whatsoever, you'd just take us all out behind the shed and shoot us.
posted by mkultra at 7:44 AM on February 23, 2006
Every 50 posts/comments, you pay $5 to maintain your right to post here. Or your account gets deleted. And then you pay $5 to sign up again. Self-suffficient revenue stream. Eventually people will only post valuable comments, and some people will have so much invested inthe site that they will never leave.
posted by blue_beetle at 8:55 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by blue_beetle at 8:55 AM on February 23, 2006
I remember when it was all W.C. Fields as far as the eye could see...
posted by Jofus at 9:06 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by Jofus at 9:06 AM on February 23, 2006
Closing signups is a stupid idea. Why don't y'all whiners go start your own damn l33t blog? (And no, I would not join that site if you paid me.)
For the record, should y'all whiners start said damn l33t blog, I will accept payment to join.
posted by cortex at 9:11 AM on February 23, 2006
For the record, should y'all whiners start said damn l33t blog, I will accept payment to join.
posted by cortex at 9:11 AM on February 23, 2006
This thread is why I love this place. Kwanstar asks a simple question, Matt immediately answers in no uncertain terms, and then 140+ comments are tacked on, as if they meant something.
Comedy gold...
But I'm trying to like blue_beetle's idea. It is after all, the organizing principal of modern American politics, and that's working out so well.
posted by paulsc at 9:24 AM on February 23, 2006
Comedy gold...
But I'm trying to like blue_beetle's idea. It is after all, the organizing principal of modern American politics, and that's working out so well.
posted by paulsc at 9:24 AM on February 23, 2006
Why not have new members be sponsored by existing members, like a country club* ? The sponsor would be considered responsible for that new member for some amount of time. That way if we end up with a spammer, the sponsor gets a little timeout to remind them to be more careful.
* I realize this has a number of negative connotations, but I couldn't think of a better example at the moment.
posted by tommasz at 9:36 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by tommasz at 9:36 AM on February 23, 2006
When I was waiting to join MeFi and saw that signups were only $5 I jumped at it. I would have paid $50. I've only posted two topics (one deleted on an accidental double) and maybe 50 comments and AskMe's total, and I still consider it well worth it. I would have considered $50 well worth it for AskMe alone!
Don't sell yourself short #1.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 9:44 AM on February 23, 2006
Don't sell yourself short #1.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 9:44 AM on February 23, 2006
Metafilter: Free to those who can afford it. Prohibitively expensive to those who can't.
posted by Jofus at 9:46 AM on February 23, 2006
posted by Jofus at 9:46 AM on February 23, 2006
Hey, Eideteker - just for your info, lots of us oldtimers vountarily contributed to various causes here at the MeFi works (such as the "Help Matt Buy a New Server Fund" and the "Send Matt and Kay to Iceland Fund") before you and your fellow n00bs were a gleam in your parents' eyes. Just because you weren't here when it happened doesn't mean it didn't happen. So 
!
posted by Lynsey at 9:47 AM on February 23, 2006
!posted by Lynsey at 9:47 AM on February 23, 2006
I was here. I just didn't have anything to say. I was waiting for the opportunity to pay five dollars to do so.
Besides, your comment shows you didn't even read mine, because I was proposing we all be equalized. And not by Robert McCall. Everybody pays a little, from time to time.
I suggest you upgrade your sarcasm detector to also include irony.
P.S. Librarians rule.
posted by Eideteker at 10:29 AM on February 23, 2006
Besides, your comment shows you didn't even read mine, because I was proposing we all be equalized. And not by Robert McCall. Everybody pays a little, from time to time.
I suggest you upgrade your sarcasm detector to also include irony.
P.S. Librarians rule.
posted by Eideteker at 10:29 AM on February 23, 2006
You know, this thread just goaded me into dropping the $5 signup admin fee... I've been a MeFi reader (admittedly on and off) for a few years, but I figured it was time to give this community thing a try.
$5 isn't much. Hell, now PayPal lets me charge pretty much anything to my debit card, it's easy and well worth it - I mean, I spend more on my lunch most days. If it filters out the very worst of the trolls, then why not? Plus I think any community deserves to be supported - if you think it's worth joining, then it's worth putting your money where your mouth is. (Especially the free ones. I've known a number of forums where sponsorship is optional, but brings a couple of perks, and pretty much every member in good standing will happily pay out because it keeps the site running.)
Here's hoping I don't get a barrage of "stfu n00b" comments for my honesty... ;-)
posted by Incharitable Dog at 12:14 PM on February 23, 2006
$5 isn't much. Hell, now PayPal lets me charge pretty much anything to my debit card, it's easy and well worth it - I mean, I spend more on my lunch most days. If it filters out the very worst of the trolls, then why not? Plus I think any community deserves to be supported - if you think it's worth joining, then it's worth putting your money where your mouth is. (Especially the free ones. I've known a number of forums where sponsorship is optional, but brings a couple of perks, and pretty much every member in good standing will happily pay out because it keeps the site running.)
Here's hoping I don't get a barrage of "stfu n00b" comments for my honesty... ;-)
posted by Incharitable Dog at 12:14 PM on February 23, 2006
Incharitable Dog - Funny, I get the opposite reaction every time I run across yet another rant about All Those Stupid, Useless Newbies Who Should Never Have Come Here In The First Place And Who Screw The Whole Place Up, Stomp Stomp. MetaFilter doesn't exactly ooze southern hospitality. It does occasionally resemble a lynch mob.
Still, I find the place really fucking interesting and funny and thought-provoking and useful. And there are a ton of great people here. I paid my dues; I follow the rules; I get my seat, dammit. You won't see me sticking my neck out all that often, though, and maybe that's the whole point.
The day MetaFilter turns into an exclusive little country-club clone is the day I wrinkle my nose and leave. It will be no loss on either side, I'm sure. But right now, it's awesome.
posted by moira at 2:35 PM on February 23, 2006
Still, I find the place really fucking interesting and funny and thought-provoking and useful. And there are a ton of great people here. I paid my dues; I follow the rules; I get my seat, dammit. You won't see me sticking my neck out all that often, though, and maybe that's the whole point.
The day MetaFilter turns into an exclusive little country-club clone is the day I wrinkle my nose and leave. It will be no loss on either side, I'm sure. But right now, it's awesome.
posted by moira at 2:35 PM on February 23, 2006
New members should have to give me a backrub. That'd keep the spammers out!
posted by klangklangston at 3:26 PM on February 23, 2006
posted by klangklangston at 3:26 PM on February 23, 2006
Um. I think I'd sooner face the lynch mob.
... that or join Slashdot again.
posted by Incharitable Dog at 3:28 PM on February 23, 2006
... that or join Slashdot again.
posted by Incharitable Dog at 3:28 PM on February 23, 2006
$5 to join, $1000 to post a question to AxMe.
posted by blue_beetle at 3:55 PM on February 23, 2006
posted by blue_beetle at 3:55 PM on February 23, 2006
New members should have to give me a backrub. That'd keep the spammers out!
It should go to the MeFite with the hairiest back. I humbly submit that unless Robin Williams is a member, that might be me.
posted by solid-one-love at 4:04 PM on February 23, 2006
It should go to the MeFite with the hairiest back. I humbly submit that unless Robin Williams is a member, that might be me.
posted by solid-one-love at 4:04 PM on February 23, 2006
Heh. Maybe. I've got a really hairy chest, but for some reason my back never got to the same level.
However, my father (also a MeFi member) might give you a solid run for your money, in that his shirts haven't touched his skin in 20 years. They're simply suspended on a four inch cushion of hair.
posted by klangklangston at 6:54 PM on February 23, 2006
However, my father (also a MeFi member) might give you a solid run for your money, in that his shirts haven't touched his skin in 20 years. They're simply suspended on a four inch cushion of hair.
posted by klangklangston at 6:54 PM on February 23, 2006
dios writes "more users means more signup fees and more eyeballs, which in turns effects ad revenue"
Ya it affects them negatively, users don't see ads.
drezdn writes "I remember the days when I was waiting for user 15225 so there would be more people on top of me than under me."
Whoot! I've passed a milestone I didn't even know I was chasing.
posted by Mitheral at 7:47 PM on February 23, 2006
Ya it affects them negatively, users don't see ads.
drezdn writes "I remember the days when I was waiting for user 15225 so there would be more people on top of me than under me."
Whoot! I've passed a milestone I didn't even know I was chasing.
posted by Mitheral at 7:47 PM on February 23, 2006
Talking about your body hair is not encouraging any signups.
posted by horsewithnoname at 10:23 PM on February 23, 2006
posted by horsewithnoname at 10:23 PM on February 23, 2006
horsewithnoname makes comment about bodyhair.
me/ laughs
posted by taz at 11:20 PM on February 23, 2006
me/ laughs
posted by taz at 11:20 PM on February 23, 2006
Pox o' your throat, you bawling, blasphemous Incharitable Dog!
And welcome to MetaFilter!
posted by languagehat at 5:54 AM on February 24, 2006
And welcome to MetaFilter!
posted by languagehat at 5:54 AM on February 24, 2006
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