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David Pogue replies in David Pogue is the rudest man alive! thread.
posted by MonkeySaltedNuts to MetaFilter-Related at 9:05 PM (51 comments total)

but he didn't address why he deleted my comment from his blog.
posted by MonkeySaltedNuts at 9:06 PM on June 1, 2006


That was probably a NYT editorial decision, MSN. I doubt Pogue had much to do with it - they prune all their reader comments very heavily.
posted by ikkyu2 at 9:14 PM on June 1, 2006


Who is David Pogue?
posted by mischief at 9:21 PM on June 1, 2006


Some jerk.
posted by mediareport at 9:36 PM on June 1, 2006


Outrage!
posted by SweetJesus at 9:39 PM on June 1, 2006


Tell him not to sign his posts.
posted by padraigin at 9:42 PM on June 1, 2006


Dammit, and we were five minutes into what could've been a MeTa-free day. Curse you, MSN! *shakes fist*
posted by Eideteker at 9:46 PM on June 1, 2006


David Pogue is a pop computer writer, who has written, among other things, The Missing Manual, which, at least in its OSX 10.0 incarnation, is excellent (I haven't read the newest version, but I will, as soon as I get a MacBook).
posted by bingo at 10:08 PM on June 1, 2006


whoa, there.

David Pogue is most certanly not "some jerk."

Google him. He has written some great stuff (with the exception of this piece, which was slightly amusing but overall not good and not representative of his work)

no, I am no sock puppet
posted by crazyray at 11:42 PM on June 1, 2006


If only we had a sidebar and some sort of flagging apparatus.
posted by peacay at 11:53 PM on June 1, 2006


Wow, I can't belive you think it was actually rude to review the product like that. It's not like he's reviewing the giver himself.
posted by delmoi at 12:08 AM on June 2, 2006


David Pogue is most certanly not "some jerk."

I agree. He presents 'technology' to 'everyone / the everyman' -- much like Walt Mossberg at the Wall Street Journal and Steve Wildstrom at Business Week.
posted by ericb at 12:19 AM on June 2, 2006


we are NOT thin-skinned!

sincerely,

david & todd, the lokken-pogues
posted by Hat Maui at 12:25 AM on June 2, 2006 [1 favorite]


David Pogue is an old-time Mac-head journalist. Almost as big as that one guy whose name I can't remember...
posted by scarabic at 12:26 AM on June 2, 2006


Guy Kawasaki?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:07 AM on June 2, 2006


Plus, as irrelevant as it is, he's a quite decent Music Director and Magician, which is the context in which I worked with him, back in '98. The man sucessfully palmed a 4" wooden coin, that was being used in a production of 'Joseph', and, for that, he can't be all bad.
posted by Davidicus at 4:29 AM on June 2, 2006


I doubt Bob "Dr. Mac" LeVitus would lamblast his own kin's intentions as Pogue had, in-laws or otherwise.
posted by Smart Dalek at 4:36 AM on June 2, 2006


David Pogue is a pop computer writer, who has written, among other things, The Missing Manual

Ah! That's where I know him from!

The Tiger version of TMM is also excellent. It atones for a multitude of imagined blogospherical sins.
posted by Zozo at 5:53 AM on June 2, 2006


Oh please. You sanctimonious fucks. No, not you sane folks defending him, I'm talking about those other twats. Tell me with a straight face you don't have some (even otherwise perfectly redeemable and capable) relatives you don't just roll your own goddamn eyeballs at.

Just because the guy had the bravery, stupidity or tactlessness to tell it like it is and as it felt to him - and because he had the audacity to tie it in to a minitutorial in the intelligent, logical way to try and buy blinky consumer gadgets - you armchair quarterbacks jumped all up in his safely and physically removed grill like a bunch of drunken gradeschoolers. That thread practically titters.

I ain't saying there's anything wrong with that - and critique is how we grow - and in an ideal and unrealistic world we'd all be happy together as pigs in shit - but at least be true to yourselves.

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posted by loquacious at 6:24 AM on June 2, 2006 [5 favorites]


I always like it when the insular world of MeFi is cracked a bit by the object of our affection popping in to comment. Remember star wars toy guy? That guy was awesome!
posted by OmieWise at 6:34 AM on June 2, 2006


Metafilter: It practically titters
posted by Otis at 6:35 AM on June 2, 2006


Ok, the "some jerk" thing was too much. It was a jerky thing to do, though. And the excuse for doing it was lame.
posted by mediareport at 6:35 AM on June 2, 2006


I have worked with David Pogue. He is conceited, but not rude.
posted by theredpen at 6:56 AM on June 2, 2006


Word loquacious.
posted by Mitheral at 7:06 AM on June 2, 2006


What Mitheral said.

I am kinda surprised you seem so taken aback by this, mediareport; the review of a Silly/Bad/Craptastic gift is a pretty rote angle for a columnist to take - it's an universal hook for an article or review of any type of product.
Who can't relate to recieving a gift where "Oh, you shouldn't have, really!" is the only possible response?

Odds are most folks probably assumed that it was just a framing device, and not even true.

Tempest in a teapot.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 7:49 AM on June 2, 2006


Yes, but it was a very expensive teapot, and she meant well!
posted by cortex at 7:52 AM on June 2, 2006


I don't think people are objecting to the fact that he mentioned it was a gift as much as to the "Gift buyers: Do some fucking research" line. I have no problem with his mentioning he didn't buy the thing for himself, but explicitly admonishing people who buy (him) things was uncalled for.
posted by occhiblu at 8:02 AM on June 2, 2006


Guy Kawasaki?

Actually it was Bob LeVitus I was thinking of. That dood has to be the Babe Ruth of Mac Journalists.
posted by scarabic at 8:22 AM on June 2, 2006


Why are we now discussing this in the gray as well?
posted by desuetude at 8:25 AM on June 2, 2006


Because it wouldn't be appropriate in the green, desuetude.
posted by cortex at 8:30 AM on June 2, 2006


I think someone should start a blog about this issue, and the way it was perceived in the early days of this thread.
posted by bingo at 8:33 AM on June 2, 2006


You see admonishment, I see standard consumer advice:
"For gift-givers: Do some research. Read the customer reviews. Beware outdated products on store shelves."

desuetude: I don't know.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:39 AM on June 2, 2006


I think someone should start a blog about this issue, and the way it was perceived in the early days of this thread.

Oh, you are so getting a negative writeup, mister...
posted by cortex at 8:40 AM on June 2, 2006


Why are we now discussing this in the gray as well?

You know, I posted my comment here because I had the automatic "It's a personal comment about someone mentioned in the post, so it must go in MeTa" reaction, and after I hit "post" I realized that the whole point of the FPP was to encourage personal attacks on the subject of the article, so....

Confusing, I tell you.
posted by occhiblu at 9:22 AM on June 2, 2006


Yeah, it wasn't a derail — and even if it were, I thought the unspoken rule was that as a thread scrolls off the main page, dumb jokes and derails become progressively less egregious.

But if we're gonna MeTa, then I'll comment out that making fun of someone's nickname is possibly the most pedestrian form of insult on the Web, ranking just below, "Your mom!"
posted by cribcage at 9:43 AM on June 2, 2006


He wasn't making fun of his nick, he was razzing him for signing his post.
posted by Mitheral at 9:45 AM on June 2, 2006


Reading the wrong comment, Mitheral. The jibe in question:

Er, "pogueman"? Give me a break.

Which is pretty weak, even if "pogueman" is a little, eh, you know, give-me-a-break-ish as nicks go.
posted by cortex at 10:04 AM on June 2, 2006


Gift buyers: Do some research

I'm sorry, is this actually bad advice?
posted by moonbiter at 10:15 AM on June 2, 2006


Sorry, I was reading read the next comment; the pogueman bit was uncalled for.
posted by Mitheral at 10:18 AM on June 2, 2006


Pogueman with a few more letters becomes Pogue Mahone, i.e. póg mo thóin.
posted by emelenjr at 10:52 AM on June 2, 2006


Actually it was Bob LeVitus I was thinking of. That dood has to be the Babe Ruth of Mac Journalists.

Does that make Pogue the Hank Aaron? Who's the Barry Bonds?
posted by timeistight at 10:53 AM on June 2, 2006


Does that make Pogue the Hank Aaron? Who's the Barry Bonds?

Dave Winer?
posted by Inkoate at 11:31 AM on June 2, 2006


I don't speak baseball, really. I was talking candy bars.
posted by scarabic at 11:39 AM on June 2, 2006


JAB: just another blog
posted by mischief at 12:01 PM on June 2, 2006


I propose that, from this moment forward, whenever anyone slags a well-meaning elderly gift-giver, that person shall be referred to as "poguemaniacal".
posted by mr_crash_davis at 12:25 PM on June 2, 2006


And the response shall be "Pogue mahone."
posted by languagehat at 1:02 PM on June 2, 2006


According to Alexa, the NYTimes is ranked around 100, Metafilter is 1,000. That's actually not a huge difference at all. It shouldn't be surprising that Pogue commented here, or anyone else for that matter.
posted by cell divide at 1:42 PM on June 2, 2006


So what your saying is that the NYTimes is a million times more popular, right?
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 3:25 PM on June 2, 2006


you're
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 4:57 PM on June 2, 2006


what oneirodynia said
posted by zenzizi at 7:59 AM on June 3, 2006


Wait, dude spends $5 just to argue with someone on a website? He should blog that.
posted by nevercalm at 2:55 PM on June 3, 2006


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