24 hours vs. a day. October 23, 2001 5:09 AM   Subscribe

24 hours vs. a day. I really don't like the 24 hour limitation, its not that I want to post twice per day, but I keep odd hours and find some really interesting stuff say in the morning that I'd like to post, but have to wait 24 actualy hours because I posted in the afternoon the previous day.
posted by skallas to MetaFilter-Related at 5:09 AM (24 comments total)

Why not just change it to check to see if its after midnight following the previous post instead of waiting 24 full hours. The link I want to post now will be forgotten by the time 9pm or whenever rolls around.

I know there's a mail Matt option, but its just a decent post nothing to wake Matt for.
posted by skallas at 5:11 AM on October 23, 2001


"I'd like to post, but have to wait"

Yes, that's the idea. More waiting, less posting, more thinking about quality choices.
posted by y6y6y6 at 5:58 AM on October 23, 2001


• If someone beats you to the punch on this particular link, that's not bad (this isn't a competition).

• If no one beats you to it, and if you still feel like posting it tomorrow, maybe it wasn't just another CNN link.

• If it's an emergency, try buying an ad.

posted by pracowity at 6:11 AM on October 23, 2001


more thinking about quality choices.


So I'm supposed to contemplate the mentioned post the rest of the day until the timer kicks in?

After 12 hours of decided to post this link I finally defeated the nagging voices in my head. Enjoy!
posted by skallas when the 24 hours ended
posted by skallas at 6:15 AM on October 23, 2001


Whoa, I should be paying attention when I type and proofreading.
posted by skallas at 6:16 AM on October 23, 2001


pracowity: I never said anything about competition, CNN, etc. The ad suggestion is pretty lousy, the 24 hour limitation has nothing to do with ads. Ads are for advertising. Metafilter is for posting.

posted by skallas at 6:20 AM on October 23, 2001


The ad suggestion was a joke. There's no such thing as an emergency posting.

And I think many people do (though perhaps you do not) feel as if they're competing. They have to be first because no one is allowed to be second, and they have to be funny (or profound or cool or übergeek or most informed) because little else matters. Every posting is an advertisement for a little chunk of someone's ego.
posted by pracowity at 6:47 AM on October 23, 2001


its not that I want to post twice per day

this is the key element. Skallas is just saying that the "day" could be better defined. That makes sense. After all, a 24-hour prohibition is much stronger than a 1-a-day restriction (e.g., to post 365 links in a year with the first, you would have to post exactly every 24 hours; whereas with the second you could post at any time of day, so long as you didn't skip a day).

I rarely post to the main page, so it doesn't matter to me all that much. But I see skallas' point, and it sounds reasonable to me. As I understand it, the posting restriction was about stopping people from racking up front-page post after front-page post, not to make them sit on posts their going to make anyway (once they're permitted again).
posted by mattpfeff at 7:18 AM on October 23, 2001


skallas, i don't see your dilemma. if you're afraid of forgetting your post after waiting too long, do as i do: send yourself an email with all the necessary info typed in. then you can simply cut and paste it in.
posted by moz at 8:08 AM on October 23, 2001


"I rarely post to the main page"

Which is the way it ought to be. (IMHO)
posted by y6y6y6 at 8:22 AM on October 23, 2001


I'll try and not take that personally, 3(y6)....

;)

Seriously, there is a (legitimate) question of intent (of the rule) here. I'd be fine with a rule that restricted posting to 1x/week, myself. But that's not the rule. And given that it's supposed to be 1x/day, it's reasonable to ask what's the best way to do that (and why).
posted by mattpfeff at 8:46 AM on October 23, 2001


I think it should be 72 hours.
posted by gleemax at 9:06 AM on October 23, 2001


I think it comes down to the complexity of the coding involved. I agree with skallas that once/day should be the rule, but if it's going to but additional burden on Uncle Matt, it's not really worth it.
posted by jpoulos at 9:10 AM on October 23, 2001


If my memory serves me right, this difference was actually debated before the change was made, and the decision was made to make it 24 hours rather than day-by-day.

Honestly, it's not a big deal, either; if you feel it's important enough, you'll remember to post it once the 24-hour embargo ends. If it's not, you won't. And there probably is no link out there that, if not posted, will cause the world to end, so this is all a little bit of tilting at windmills; if someone really disagrees with the way it's set up, then there are other sites that they can use to post the link (including their own weblogs).


posted by delfuego at 9:16 AM on October 23, 2001


The 24-hour rule was instigated to try and stop a problem. it's neither selective nor can it filter out double posts, crap posts or trolls.
But it's a better solution to the situation we had a couple of weeks ago than any I can think of, and it makes everyone think about what they post which is a Good Thing.
It's not very egalitarian to suggest that you should get special dispensation to break the rules because you keep odd hours, 24 hours is still a day whenever you start it.
posted by Markb at 9:47 AM on October 23, 2001


We should be able to save up all our hours, and blow them all on a post-fest.
I suggest this for reasons that can only be described as bastardly.
posted by sonofsamiam at 10:04 AM on October 23, 2001


The day by day was kicked in favor of 24 hours, due to australian and european members that don't want to wait until exactly 6pm or 8am to make their next day posts, due to the midnight on the west coast of the US thing.

skallas, you're about the only person with the problem. You continue to post good links, and you have a knack for finding lots of them. The rule was obviously made for people that don't know how to find good links or write good posts.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:05 AM on October 23, 2001


When did this quota thing kick in? I submitted several little posts yesterday without problem.

Also, couldn't the system just be used at peak demand times?
posted by ParisParamus at 10:27 AM on October 23, 2001


"I'll try and not take that personally, 3(y6)...."

Oops. Yes. That sounded bad. Sorry. I was speaking in the general sense.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:36 AM on October 23, 2001


When did this quota thing kick in? I submitted several little posts yesterday without problem

The limit is only on front page posts. So users can only start 1 new thread per 24 hr period. You can comment all you want.

Also, couldn't the system just be used at peak demand times?

It's not an issue about server load, it was done for quality control (people with new found posting rights were happily posting 3 links in a row, each day).
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:43 AM on October 23, 2001


You post too much.
posted by websavvy at 12:06 PM on October 23, 2001


You know you never shut up.
posted by jpoulos at 1:53 PM on October 23, 2001


Your mother's an astronaut.
posted by pnevares at 4:56 PM on October 23, 2001


Your mother wears army boots, in the summer time!
posted by a11an at 9:17 PM on October 23, 2001


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