Why are links removed? April 20, 2007 11:05 AM   Subscribe

Could someone direct me to specific policies that state why posts are removed? I had one removed today because someone chose to use inappropriate language in a comment. The language use was apparently blamed on the article I posted. That is very strange. I don't know where the policy is that states what can and can't be posted.
posted by scissorhand2 to Etiquette/Policy at 11:05 AM (226 comments total) 3 users marked this as a favorite

You didn't read the deletion reason, did you?
This post was deleted for the following reason: sloe - this is a good topic but one ranty post about murder by spreadsheet doesn't leave room for much except OMG HEALTHCARE outragefilter responses. -- jessamyn
posted by unixrat at 11:11 AM on April 20, 2007


Dude, your post was not removed for inappropriate language in a comment. This is the deletion reason: sloe - this is a good topic but one ranty post about murder by spreadsheet doesn't leave room for much except OMG HEALTHCARE outragefilter responses. -- jessamyn

This was also mentioned in your AskMe about this.
posted by AwkwardPause at 11:11 AM on April 20, 2007


Fucking shit, man. That's all cocked up.

Maybe now this MeTa thread will be deleted.
posted by Plutor at 11:14 AM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


It was a diatribe, yet the modus operandi of insurers truly is to delay, deny and deceive.
posted by caddis at 11:16 AM on April 20, 2007


And because I have a feeling you're wondering: "sloe" = single link op-ed.
posted by amro at 11:16 AM on April 20, 2007


on metafilter, there are 'guidelines', but 'specific policy' is largely avoided, because post removal is generally agreed to be a gray area. the only hard rule is 'no self-linking'. the guidelines are listed here and are linked from the 'new post' page.

Additionally, if your post gets deleted, you can visit the its URL (there are plugins for Firefox that permit you to view deleted post URLs on the main page, or you can try to deduce the URL from the posts surrounding the spot where your post used to be) to see the mods deletion reason.

i personally have never known inappropriate language to be a hindrance to my posts remaining visible.
posted by fishfucker at 11:16 AM on April 20, 2007


For more details on what sorts of posts are generally not a good fit for the front page, check out The FAQ. In particular:

- If a thread has been removed or deleted, can I still find it someplace?
- What makes a good front page post to MetaFilter?
- Why was my MetaFilter post deleted?
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:17 AM on April 20, 2007


And, yeah, rough language in a thread has not ever been grounds for a post deletion, and I'm not sure why it would be.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:19 AM on April 20, 2007


It was deleted because mathowie, jessamyn and cortex are all in the pocket of Big Medicine.
posted by scrump at 11:19 AM on April 20, 2007 [7 favorites]


KILL THE N00B!!!
posted by DU at 11:22 AM on April 20, 2007


It was deleted because mathowie, jessamyn and cortex are all in the pocket of the anti-naughty words cabal.
posted by found missing at 11:23 AM on April 20, 2007


Did anybody else get some weird wrapping going on for the box that holds the deletion reason on that page? I'm using firefox. I could take a screenshot, but I don't have anywhere to post it.
posted by vytae at 11:24 AM on April 20, 2007


I get weird wrapping too. IE and FF. It's rarely a problem, since most reasons are pretty short, but the css could use a little tweak, I suppose.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:24 AM on April 20, 2007


FREE MEDICAL MARIJUANA
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 11:28 AM on April 20, 2007


it was deleted because mathowie, jessamyn and cortex are all in the pocket with a fucking cold stethoscope
posted by pyramid termite at 11:30 AM on April 20, 2007


This post could use some personality.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 11:30 AM on April 20, 2007


I had one removed today because someone chose to use inappropriate language in a comment.

Not piling on, but just curious: how did you come to this conclusion?
posted by Gamblor at 11:31 AM on April 20, 2007


personally have never known inappropriate language to be a hindrance to my posts remaining visible.
posted by fishfucker


:)
posted by caddis at 11:32 AM on April 20, 2007 [4 favorites]


THERE IS NO ANTI-NAUGHTY WORDS CABAL.
posted by scrump at 11:35 AM on April 20, 2007


fucky fucky fucky wucky ducky cunty-coo

(Don't mind me, just trying to get this post removed.)
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 11:36 AM on April 20, 2007


view all posts, including deleted ones,

deleted thread blog (not always up to date)
posted by delmoi at 11:38 AM on April 20, 2007


It's rarely a problem, since most reasons are pretty short, but the css could use a little tweak, I suppose.

Yeah, no biggie. Just thought I'd ask.
posted by vytae at 11:40 AM on April 20, 2007


It's a rough world out here, on the Internet prairie, Mr. scissorhands2. Life is cheap, and words are cheaper, and messages get deleted all the time. Your best bet is to watch and learn what makes it and what doesn't. The mob around here is the lynchin' sort, and you'll know in short order what comes and goes around here just by watching.
posted by Dave Faris at 11:42 AM on April 20, 2007


sloe - this is a good topic but one ranty post about murder by spreadsheet doesn't leave room for much except OMG HEALTHCARE outragefilter responses. -- jessamyn

What's sloe? The only definition I know (besides the regular ones) is a slut hoe. Seems kinda personal.... ;P
posted by iconomy at 11:44 AM on April 20, 2007


There is more to MetaFilter than the mob. Keep trying scissorhands2.
posted by Roger Dodger at 11:45 AM on April 20, 2007


Incidentally, this post from yesterday was about dog sex toys and had the term "hollowed out fuck doll" in it on the front page.

Here's a question from yesterday about excessive butt hair and hemorrhoids.

I'm not sure what you think constitutes "inappropriate language", but the mods are hardly shrinking violets when it comes to dirty words. Heck, jessamyn did an entire post on swine penis.

(and really, that's why I stick around here)
posted by Gamblor at 11:46 AM on April 20, 2007


it was deleted because mathowie, jessamyn and cortex are all in the pocket of the snow miser.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:46 AM on April 20, 2007


Oh poop-shits, Plutor beat me to it.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 11:46 AM on April 20, 2007


The sloeconomy is lubed with peak oil.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 11:50 AM on April 20, 2007


Got brass
In pocket.
posted by Dizzy at 11:51 AM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


What's sloe? The only definition I know (besides the regular ones) is a slut hoe.

Single Link Op-Ed.

I wonder if we should have a site glossary.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:52 AM on April 20, 2007


You cuntpunching popefelchers couldn't swear your way out of a paper bag.
posted by loquacious at 11:56 AM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


I think inappropriate language should be banned from all posts.

I'd like to nominate latin as our first inappropriate language.
posted by blue_beetle at 11:56 AM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Obviously, you're new here. So let me greet you with a traditional MeFi "STFU N00B!"

Aside from self-links (as mentioned above and elsewhere on the front page of MetaTalk (as of today)), posts are generally deleted for one reason: They suck. Stick around for awhile, and you will learn what makes a good post. One hint: stay away from any political threads or any post whose aim seems to make you outraged. MetaFilter is about interesting websites and spreading outrage on invidual issues. Some keywords to avoid: iraq, healthcare, abortion, circumcision, declawing, zombo.com, dhoyt, beans, and portobello. You'll notice others over time, if you become a consciencious reader.
posted by Eideteker at 11:56 AM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


DRONE!
posted by LordSludge at 11:58 AM on April 20, 2007


Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
posted by buzzman at 12:00 PM on April 20, 2007


Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Are you absolutely sure?
posted by niles at 12:04 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


cuntpunching popefelchers

have you heard their new album yet?
posted by pyramid termite at 12:06 PM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


Igive the first single, "Tighter Than My Mitre" a 96.
I can felch to it.
posted by Dizzy at 12:08 PM on April 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


I am going to hit the bars tonight. Try and find me a sloe.
posted by ND¢ at 12:10 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


And, yeah, rough language in a thread has not ever been grounds for a post deletion, and I'm not sure why it would be.

Well, fuck, that fucking sounds like a fucking challenge to me.
posted by graventy at 12:11 PM on April 20, 2007


Shut yer festering gob, you tit.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 12:15 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


I get a huge chuckle when people are all "Can I has policy, plz?". It's like Matt runs some international outfit here, and he's got shelves of neatly maintained ISO-9002 documentation cared for by sigma six black belts so that he can do trade with Taiwan.

Our policy, sir, is whimsy.
posted by boo_radley at 12:16 PM on April 20, 2007 [10 favorites]


I wonder if we should have a site glossary.

Right, or we could just skip the stupid, esoteric abbreviations.
posted by cribcage at 12:18 PM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


Metafilter: neatly maintained ISO-9002 documentation cared for by sigma six black belts.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 12:19 PM on April 20, 2007


Right, or we could just skip the stupid, esoteric abbreviations.

Well, you sucked the joy right outta that lighthearted speculation.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:23 PM on April 20, 2007


or, as we refer to them, an ssea: stupid skipped esoteric abbreviation.
posted by boo_radley at 12:24 PM on April 20, 2007


Yeah, so you got your post deleted. Big deal. If you want to impress me, get a MetaTalk thread deleted.
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 12:36 PM on April 20, 2007


Well that's just doe fucking F!
posted by Catfry at 12:40 PM on April 20, 2007


Is that even possible?
Has a MetaTalk thread ever been deleted?
posted by Methylviolet at 12:49 PM on April 20, 2007


They have. It's not common.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:52 PM on April 20, 2007


This kind of deletion has long been referred to as an OMGLOL50K
posted by Mister_A at 12:52 PM on April 20, 2007


What would that take?
Just, you know, asking.
posted by Methylviolet at 1:00 PM on April 20, 2007


Gigantic psycho flaming freakout posts, usually. Or griefer stunt posts. Or jokey-comeback posts. Or, more controversially, posts on (fucked up though it may be) a genuinely-from-experience legally problematic subject.
posted by cortex (staff) at 1:07 PM on April 20, 2007


AlexReynold's "drama queen" flameout is probably the canonical example of a deleted MetaTalk thread. (GOATSE in the link. You've been warned.)
posted by cgc373 at 1:10 PM on April 20, 2007


Meh. Should be AlexReynolds' there. Also, if the link shouldn't be here, I apologize. Seemed appropos, but maybe it's just mudslinging. You can Google it, Methylviolet, using "drama queen" and "MetaTalk" as keywords.
posted by cgc373 at 1:14 PM on April 20, 2007


I can't spell for appropriate apple poop today. Double meh.
posted by cgc373 at 1:16 PM on April 20, 2007


(GOATSE in the link. You've been warned.)

Oh, fond memories of the now forsaken img tag.
posted by ericb at 1:17 PM on April 20, 2007

Right, or we could just skip the stupid, esoteric abbreviations.
You mean SEAs?
posted by MrMoonPie at 1:18 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Bartender, a sloe gin, please.
posted by wendell at 1:26 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


“Should be AlexReynolds' there.”

No, I think it should be AlexReynolds's. It's a matter of taste and choice of style guides. But I think the good rule-of-thumb is to follow pronunciation. Which can be problematic because of a chicken-and-egg thing for some people. Anyway, that usually means eliding the possessive s for plurals but not singulars.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 1:31 PM on April 20, 2007


Yep, I'm with you on the pronunciation apostrophe, EB. My mistake was the misspelled name, though, because of misplaced apostrophe action. I'd say REN-uhldz in the sentence, so I'd write Reynolds'. Unless I botch it and put the apostrophe after the D and shear the S off the end of the name.
posted by cgc373 at 1:38 PM on April 20, 2007


If everyone had the balls enough to always deal in absolutes this world would be pretty damn awesome.
posted by Burhanistan at 1:38 PM on April 20, 2007


this is a good topic but one ranty post about murder by spreadsheet doesn't leave room for much except OMG HEALTHCARE outragefilter responses.

I can't see why that has to be the case. Why couldn't someone respond with, say, a four paragraph argument in favor of socialized medicine or a three paragraph explanation of why the linked post is ignoring important information?

If you had said that the linked post is short on substance and long on blathering, I would have agreed with you. However, I still wouldn't have considered it an adequate reason for deletion since I'm, as a rule, opposed to all deletions.
posted by Clay201 at 1:43 PM on April 20, 2007


it was deleted because mathowie, jessamyn and cortex are all in the pocket of AlexReynolds.
posted by JanetLand at 1:44 PM on April 20, 2007


What has it gots in its [AlexReynolds's] Pocketses?
posted by cgc373 at 1:47 PM on April 20, 2007


Ah crap. A gunman is holed up at JSC (NASA) in Houston. Post to Metafilter in 5...4...3...2...1...we have newsfilter jerkoff!
posted by Burhanistan at 1:59 PM on April 20, 2007


Hmmm. I didn't even make it to the end of the Alex Reynolds thread, and I see why it was deleted. It is funny at first, but just becomes mean and sad, Lord of the Flies style.

And wasn't someone screaming in the grey just recently about somebody being Alex Reynolds's sockpuppet? And didn't this dhoyt guy also flame out memorably? (If I remember any of that right.)

It's War and Peace up in here.
posted by Methylviolet at 2:01 PM on April 20, 2007


That thread really ought to be purged entirely. It's kind of like if someone had a recording of a really silly argument you had as a kid that got way out of hand on display for everyone to wallow over. It may have cautionary value but probably is best wiped from the archive.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:04 PM on April 20, 2007


Er, it was. That's someone's mirror.
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:06 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh god that AlexReynolds thread makes me so grateful for adblock.

Without going into bad territory, I might know a guy who knows a thing or two about what it took to get a certain MeTa thread deleted, and I certainly don't have a gmail address in my profile.
posted by Skorgu at 2:08 PM on April 20, 2007


I can get a MeTa thread deleted in five minutes flat:

Sorry to ask, but I can't find it anywhere. There was this cool comment about ___ ______ having retarded hamster babies because his teeth are stuck together or something. Anyway, it was awesome, and I wanted to post it to my blog, so hope me please! lol.
posted by ND¢ at 2:11 PM on April 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


It is funny at first, but just becomes mean and sad, Lord of the Flies style.

No kidding.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 2:14 PM on April 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


Speaking of deleting MeTa threads, I kind of like the way we apparently just leave them open for weeks at time lately so people can be all silly, but part of me longs for the days when mathowie would wake up in a rage and just go through closing all the Meta posts:

No

This thread is closed.
____________________

We've discussed this before.

This thread is closed.
____________________

I'm working on it.

This thread is closed.
____________________

I mean, at the time it seemed kind of jerky, but now I miss it. I am like a Russian. I just need to be ruled over with a strong hand.
posted by ND¢ at 2:21 PM on April 20, 2007


There was this cool comment about ___ ______ having retarded hamster babies because his teeth are stuck together or something.

fuck ___ ______ ... why do people keep bringing this crappy and perpetually doomed to metaoblivion story up?
posted by pyramid termite at 2:21 PM on April 20, 2007


deleted thread blog (not always up to date)

I usually update it every day, usually in the afternoon.
posted by puke & cry at 2:26 PM on April 20, 2007


“It is funny at first, but just becomes mean and sad, Lord of the Flies style.”

Yeah. Good times.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:28 PM on April 20, 2007


scissorhand2, I sent you an email explaining what was going on. A few people in this thread have also given you some decent explanations. While MetaFilter does have some political type posts, it's not really a "let's talk about politics" blog the way that, say, Daily Kos is. The sort of things that go well over there -- big posts about shitty things that corporations do so people can all holler about them being so shitty -- are more the exception than the rule here, though they do happen.

People flagged your post and when I went to look at it it seemed like a link to a ranty blog that wouldn't foster a lot of discussion. If the issue is really important to you, you can try to put together another post on it, but I'd leave it be for now. It seems like you may be having a hard time getting the hang of how the site works and you should stick around a while and figure it out for a bit.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 2:31 PM on April 20, 2007


(Er, my comment was meant to be wry and not intended as a commentary on Alex Reynolds or his various personas.)
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:33 PM on April 20, 2007


Forgive me for being a n00b (or hell, pile on if you want), but what or who is GOATSE?
posted by lleachie at 2:53 PM on April 20, 2007


it's rather like tubgirl.

Google is your friend.
posted by niles at 2:57 PM on April 20, 2007


what or who is GOATSE

It's a very graphic photo of a man's distended (extended?) anus and rectum that often surprises people with its "wow I can't believe I am looking at this" nature. You can read about it on Wikipedia without looking at it.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 2:57 PM on April 20, 2007


Ok, fine. [SFW]
posted by niles at 2:58 PM on April 20, 2007


but what or who is GOATSE?

Speaking of good times.
posted by Cyrano at 3:02 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh. Hell. I AM a N00b. I didn't even think to Google it. And now I wish I hadn't.
posted by lleachie at 3:05 PM on April 20, 2007


google "last measure" next.
posted by puke & cry at 3:10 PM on April 20, 2007


I read some of the Drama Queen thread*, once — and its lesson, which seems worth mentioning in this context and since there are a couple newbies about, is to keep out of any MetaTalk thread posted about you. Do not participate. You won't like what happens.

* Just a suggestion, but this would seem to be a valid way of referring to the thread without Googlebombing some guy's name.
posted by cribcage at 3:12 PM on April 20, 2007


Mixed feelings cortex?
posted by peacay at 3:14 PM on April 20, 2007


Consider me edumacated now, puke and cry.
posted by lleachie at 3:14 PM on April 20, 2007


peacay: I'm considering putting together some sort of writeup of the collective mefi response to the VT/Cho situation, so I've been favoriting related threads as I come across them, for easy reference later. My favorites page is a real weirdscape of mostly deleted posts right now.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:17 PM on April 20, 2007


Why are we still explaining...?

The guy has Mefi'd, Ask'd & Meta'd. It's clear what he's doing and this thread surely doesn't need to go on anymore, esp. as he hasn't participated since posting the thread.
posted by dash_slot- at 3:24 PM on April 20, 2007


It's OK.
I put poop in his Angels' Food.
posted by Dizzy at 3:28 PM on April 20, 2007


And didn't this dhoyt guy also flame out memorably?

Well, not exactly. But there was this sextuple reach around call out by himself as highsignal where he went after matteo's degradations of himself as jenleigh and then, most memorably, in retrospect, weighed in as himself as dhoyt and told Heywood Mogroot to Get. A. Girlfriend. and then later made a brief appearance of himself as hall_of_robots to wonder if anyone had told matteo. He got axed sometime after all of that when Matt put one and one and one and one together. I don't know about War and Peace but isn't there a novel by William Gaddis that is composed entirely of unattributed dialogue ? Now, while that's exactly not a flame out, that it sure took a lot of chutzpah for a guy writing under three accounts in going after someone being mean to himself as another account to be telling anyone to Get. A. Girlfriend. is not a hard argument to make.
posted by y2karl at 3:34 PM on April 20, 2007


Yeah, after that happened matt strapped dhoyt to a rocket and launched him into the sun.
posted by puke & cry at 3:38 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


and then the world went forever dark....
posted by jonmc at 3:50 PM on April 20, 2007


I kind of liked jenleigh. dhoyt, not so much.
posted by Roger Dodger at 4:01 PM on April 20, 2007


isn't there a novel by William Gaddis that is composed entirely of unattributed dialogue?

The closest to being entirely dialogue is JR, but they're all pretty heavy on it.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 4:09 PM on April 20, 2007


you talk about Darren like he's not posting here anymore
posted by matteo at 4:10 PM on April 20, 2007


Gamblor writes "Heck, jessamyn did an entire post on swine penis."

Let's not forget the chicken pictures.
posted by Mitheral at 4:13 PM on April 20, 2007


matteo, are you saying dhoyt's still 'round and about in some manner, sockpuppeteering, perhaps?
posted by cgc373 at 4:16 PM on April 20, 2007


Metafilter: A sextuple reacharound callout by yourself.
posted by scrump at 4:18 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh matteo, you tease. Elaborate!
posted by Aloysius Bear at 4:31 PM on April 20, 2007


>>Forgive me for being a n00b (or hell, pile on if you want), but what or who is GOATSE?

>it's rather like tubgirl.

>Google is your friend.

Not in this instance.
posted by timeistight at 4:42 PM on April 20, 2007


You want the policy?

YOU WANT THE POLICY???

YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE POLICY !!!!
posted by R. Mutt at 4:45 PM on April 20, 2007


> Google is your friend.

Not in this instance.


Google is your non-judgemental manservant, anyway.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:50 PM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


matteo, are you saying dhoyt's still 'round and about in some manner, sockpuppeteering, perhaps?

He's sort of like Jory in Ubik, he sneaks up on us when we are fuming and comments ad hominem through us second hand. The trick then is to get our hands on a spray can of Ubik before we all disappear into the gaping maw of the dhoyt Half-life.
posted by y2karl at 4:55 PM on April 20, 2007


SLOE? I like to think I'm hep to the kids and down with the lingo, and I have never seen that before. Please don't.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:56 PM on April 20, 2007


Don't worry about it stavrosthewonderchickengramps.
posted by R. Mutt at 4:59 PM on April 20, 2007


It's not exactly brand new, stavros.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:02 PM on April 20, 2007


Old people suck.
I'm old people.
We suck.
posted by Dizzy at 5:04 PM on April 20, 2007


But you should see my 401(k).
posted by Dizzy at 5:06 PM on April 20, 2007


SLOE is just east of SLO.
posted by wendell at 5:08 PM on April 20, 2007


Which the people to the west just never seem to get.
posted by y2karl at 5:13 PM on April 20, 2007


Karl - get. a. girlfriend. Or keep sharpening that slingblade. Whatever.
posted by vronsky at 5:20 PM on April 20, 2007


See what I mean--wherever you turn, he is there. Thank God, Ubik is safe to use when you follow directions.
posted by y2karl at 5:24 PM on April 20, 2007


vronsky, I'd recommend leaving it alone.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:38 PM on April 20, 2007


The link survived on MoFi, if you want to discuss it there.
posted by homunculus at 5:39 PM on April 20, 2007


I am thinking of starting a website where people are only allowed to participate when they are simaltaneously outside playing an extreme sport and nailing their supermodel girlfriend.
posted by drjimmy11 at 5:44 PM on April 20, 2007


vronsky won't flameout. He's more like a Bic™ lighter that periodically flares into a tiny flame that makes the metal parts too hot and kinda burns you and pisses you off. Stupid vronsky lighter with its puke green plastic casing and that annoying notch in the side where your friend carved into it with his pocketknife because he was bored with the Playstation≅® and you were out of beer anyway. Fucking shitpole vronsky assroach useless knob. Fuck!
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 5:49 PM on April 20, 2007 [5 favorites]


Vronsky, stalking folks around here is a good way to get a time out or get banned.
posted by caddis at 5:52 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh man, I totally need to read UBIK again. Thanks, y2karl!

Sorry 'bout the new stalker . . .
posted by hackly_fracture at 5:56 PM on April 20, 2007


Having a post deleted is the mods' way of letting you know that you're now a true member of the club. It's a kind of initiation ritual to have an FPP deleted for a trivial or incomprehensible reason.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 6:00 PM on April 20, 2007


A certain percentage of FPPs are deleted at random, in service of the principle of "shock and awe". It's a way of making participants here wary, to help keep them under control.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 6:00 PM on April 20, 2007


Metafilter is actually a communications medium for an underground cabal. When the time comes to move, posts will be made (by mod sock-puppets) about particular subjects using particular words. But what that means is that any post before The Day which contains such words or subjects must be deleted immediately to avoid setting things into motion too soon. And what will happen when that day comes? You're not cleared for that.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 6:01 PM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


Y'know, I wasn't going to get into this but given this dogged persistence, I have to point out - ol' scissorhand2 sure is "enthusiastic" about this diatribune.com... Why look, s/he's promoted 12 articles from there in the 4 days s/he's been involved in something called "BuzzFlash." Extra zealous progressive or some kind shill? YOU decide!
posted by nanojath at 6:01 PM on April 20, 2007


Extra zealous progressive or some kind shill?

there's a difference?
posted by pyramid termite at 6:14 PM on April 20, 2007


I'm beginning to suspect that Steven C.'s tinfoil hat has begun to penetrate his skull somehow. I'd stay far away from him during thunderstorms.
posted by wendell at 6:26 PM on April 20, 2007


It's not exactly brand new, stavros.

I'm shocked and bemused and must now re-evaluate my observational skills.

Nonetheless, precedence is no excuse.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:30 PM on April 20, 2007


“Vronsky, stalking folks around here is a good way to get a time out or get banned.”

Really? I've never seen that happen. I think you are confused. Maybe if someone were truly egregious about it, they'd get banned. But no one is that thorough, nor do they either want or need to be that thorough. You can sufficiently cultivate your obsession with another member by hitting only one out of every five of their comments. That's why it's ambiguous and why people don't get banned for it.

It's possibly something the community ought to do more to discourage, bringing stronger social mechanisms to bear against it. Especially in MetaTalk threads, even the more mild versions of stalking is fairly tiresome, with the same people showing up inevitably to pummel their foes whenever given the chance. This behavior has no political affiliation and no personality correlations other than perhaps taking things too damn seriously and having a deaf-ear to how much it bores everyone else. I've been guilty of it before I got a sense of perspective—I'm not claiming a pristine virtue. But the personal feuds get old. Some of the people who carry them on are people I otherwise like—it makes me think less of them.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 6:32 PM on April 20, 2007


I'm gonna start feuding with somebody pretty soon. Just taking my time and finding exactly the right user. Oh, yes. Your time will come, unidentified-as-yet user.
posted by cgc373 at 6:36 PM on April 20, 2007


" You can sufficiently cultivate your obsession with another member by hitting only one out of every five of their comments."

That's not true. I read, print, and paste to my wall every single one of quonsar's comments. Then I light candles and chant "smock smock smock".
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:41 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


Which the people to the west just never seem to get.

oh man that was funny.

Let's not forget the chicken pictures.


Shut up.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:55 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


“That's not true. I read, print, and paste to my wall every single one of quonsar's comments. Then I light candles and chant ‘smock smock smock’.”

Well, yeah, but doesn't everyone do this??
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 6:57 PM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


Let's have a cultish mass banning. A bunch of us can intentionally get ourselves banned for reasons that remain unclear years later!
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 6:57 PM on April 20, 2007


No way I'm signing up for MPDSEA's party. I like clarity and polish in my exit strategies.
posted by cgc373 at 7:00 PM on April 20, 2007


crash is an orthodox quonsarian. Us reform quonsarians just do the chant and call it a night.
posted by Kwine at 7:02 PM on April 20, 2007


>>Let's not forget the chicken pictures.

>Shut up.

I hope you said that like Little Richard.
posted by timeistight at 7:31 PM on April 20, 2007


I heard it like O'Reilly. Sorry.
posted by wendell at 7:54 PM on April 20, 2007


Now there's a bad hair day.
posted by y2karl at 8:13 PM on April 20, 2007


And what will happen when that day comes? You're not cleared for that.

I've finally figured it out: Steven C. Den Beste is really Lyndon LaRouche.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:23 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh, c'mon, he doesn't make that much sense.
posted by y2karl at 8:29 PM on April 20, 2007


'08 is his year, man
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:29 PM on April 20, 2007


11 or 12 ?
posted by y2karl at 8:31 PM on April 20, 2007


Now that was a nicely done retort EB. That is why I like you, occasionally pretentious, but more often than not, intelligent and spot on. Well said. The "stupid vronsky lighter" line was excellent. Pay attention people, that is how it is done.

Karl owes me an apology, and until he mans up and offers it (and since he refused mine), I say, let the boys be boys.

And all you pathetic creatures always chanting for a flameout. Really? Flamewars or disagreements, when done creatively, and not taken too far (see above), can be entertaining. But flameouts are banal. You all look like a bunch of fucktards, the kind who would gather in a crowd and yell "jump" to someone standing on a ledge. Too cowardly to enter the battle of wits, but hungry for someone's blood.
posted by vronsky at 8:46 PM on April 20, 2007


No, you owe all of us an apology.
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 8:49 PM on April 20, 2007


I don't even know what's going on in this thread, but just in case I owe somebody an apology for something: I'm totally sorry I did that shitty thing I did.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:02 PM on April 20, 2007


Apology not accepted you bunch of fucktard.
posted by found missing at 9:06 PM on April 20, 2007


That's okay, stav. I provoked you with that bottle of French perfume and clown makeup—not to mention the elephant dung—and I know you didn't really mean to do it, anyway. You big huggable lug, you.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 9:13 PM on April 20, 2007


There is no "cabal".
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 9:16 PM on April 20, 2007


FADE IN

INT. POLICE STATION CONFERENCE ROOM

MEDIUM SHOT

Seated at the conference table in the darkly lit room, slouching, drooling and slovenly, TROOPER VRONKSY gazes upon the bottle of scotch on the table before him with hungry eyes.

VRONSKY
Oh, c'mon, I'm like the son you never had.

TIGHT SHOT

Dressed in the finest silkeries and haberdasheries, the flamboyant CAPTAIN BLAZECOCK F. PILEON approaches tentatively from behind Vronsky, carrying a half-full, heavybottomed glass of scotch in one hand, and an empty cigarette holder in the other.

BLAZECOCK
If you were my son, Vronsky, I would've smothered you by now.

A haggard VRONSKY pours himself a stiff one and pauses.

VRONSKY
Smothered me in gravy, you big dirty man.

EXEUNT

FADE OUT
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:16 PM on April 20, 2007 [2 favorites]


The camera work was the redeeming feature of that scene.
posted by found missing at 9:19 PM on April 20, 2007


Not bad blazecock, but needs a rewrite... and a sex scene or two.
posted by vronsky at 9:22 PM on April 20, 2007


Vronsky:

a) Who are you?
b) Why should I care?

Anyhoos, in an unrelated story, I once lost my temper with a sock puppeteer and ended up wishing him a long and painful demise. I think that MeTa got deleted. The sock puppeteer was never identified and is still at large*, I believe.

*Unless he actually did die, in which case I'd probably feel really bad.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:26 PM on April 20, 2007


An apology for making a crack about how you were reloading and making a two gun and backwards baseball cap video for MSNBC ? Ha!--it's more appropriate now than ever--like Cho, you are playing the victim, like Cho, you have complained about bullies, and, like Cho, you are starting to act creepy. Squint at this:
...At the University of Buffalo, more than 500 miles from Virginia Tech, university counselors announced that they were "reaching out to students feeling affected by … the tragedy." In Dallas, area chaplains rushed (uninvited) to Blacksburg, Va., to "be part of the healing process." In Washington, an ordinarily hard-nosed corporate law firm e-mailed attorneys a list of "resources for coping with traumatic events."

Count me out. There's something fraudulent about this eagerness to latch onto the grief of others and embrace the idea that we, too, have been victimized. This trivializes the pain felt by those who have actually lost something and pathologizes normal reactions to tragedy. Empathy is good, but feeling shocked and saddened by the shootings doesn't make us traumatized or special — these feelings make us normal.

Our self-indulgent conviction that we have all been traumatized also operates, ironically, to shut down empathy for other, less media-genic victims. On the day of the Virginia Tech shooting, for instance, Army Sgt. Mario K. De Leon of San Francisco (like the Virginia Tech victims) died of "wounds sustained from enemy small-arms fire"). On Wednesday, car bombs killed at least 172 people in Baghdad. But no one has set up a special MySpace page to commemorate those dead.
We're not all victims

Now there's an SLOE for you. I would never post it anywhere else but it sure fits the bill here. I made a little crack, more apt in retrospect, as it turns out, than I would have thought. I've got nothing to apologize for. I don't know you from Adam and I don't understand your sudden obsession with me. You've acted like a big whiny baby, er, young white teenage male, going off half cocked and then calling names right and left, and topping it off with your fifteen act play of victimology. You are making a fool of yourself. So, Grow. Up. OK. ?

Here's a clue, for starts: stop playing the victim.
posted by y2karl at 9:26 PM on April 20, 2007 [3 favorites]


“The camera work was the redeeming feature of that scene.”

I thought vronsky brought real conviction to the role. And Blazecock was hot in that silk shirt, though the smiley-face pattern on fuscia was perhaps a poor choice by the costume department.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 9:35 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh God, how I've missed big drama-filled MeTa threads! I thought I was over it, but I missed them! This is awesome! Thank you everyone!

So vronsky is dhoyt? Or, like, y2karl thinks vronsky is dhoyt, and vronsky has a grudge against y2karl for some other reason? Or is there someone else people think is dhoyt?

Is somebody going to flame out now?
posted by moss at 10:15 PM on April 20, 2007


No.
No.
You got me.
posted by y2karl at 10:19 PM on April 20, 2007


Oh, and I don't know about the flame out, either.
posted by y2karl at 10:21 PM on April 20, 2007


Please forget all about the cabal. There is no cabal.
posted by Steven C. Den Beste at 10:25 PM on April 20, 2007


There is no cabal.

Prove it.
posted by carsonb at 10:33 PM on April 20, 2007


vronsky, dude. This is a subtle point in social interaction, but sometimes the way to retain your hand is to let go. For example, if you're talking with someone at a party, and they come back with a ferocious, witty, uproarious smackdown—you could spend all night coming back with mild retorts and hoping that one of them clicks, but what you can also do is just laugh! That's it!

Anyway, this is how you call out y2karl without long-term fallout.

All I got was nastily slugged by some skallas character.

And I bowed out with, "I do realize that this thread is somewhat of a mistake, because apparently anyone who calls anyone else out has to have extreme hatred for the person they're calling out and be representative of everyone who's ever been in disagreement with the person targeted and be a sort of metaphor for all the ills in the void perceived by people who support the targeted. My apologies." And then didn't react when delmoi unloaded on me with invective.

In our field of art, this is called the passive-aggressive apology. It's not the best form possible, but it lets you pamper your inner resentment while still retaining some semblance of grace.

And it's leagues better than going around asking for an apology, which would be pathetic even if the person you're asking to apologize didn't have much more social capital than you.
posted by Firas at 10:37 PM on April 20, 2007


(recycled) No cabal? Then how am I going to watch HBO?

y2karl, I don't think you're being stalked, vronsky is much more the Attention Whore striking out at whomever will give him a response. The first few hours of the original thread before you discovered it he appeared to be redirecting his schtick at those of us who derided his original attack on you. But now that he sees he's bothering you, you're trapped. I was thinking that with a little verbal jujitsu we might be able to send him off on a simultaneous attack on amberglow and dios (but Dizzy may need to bake some 4/20 brownies to achieve the optimum effect).

That said, there are so many apologies owed from one user to another at this site still outstanding that a karmic repo man would be busy for years... I'm sure at least a couple dozen MeFites feel I owe them apologies, half of whom I would immediately agree with if I could remember what I did wrong. And who owes ME an apology? I try to avoid taking any of what happens here that seriously... and usually succeed.
posted by wendell at 10:51 PM on April 20, 2007


Firas that was brilliant, and I promise this is the last you will ever hear of me and karl. Reading that thread was like deja vu all over again. But I am not as nice or as bright as you.

and fuck esprit d'escalier, the internets have done away with that.


I've spent a lot of time at tech karl, but please show me where I claimed victimhood or complained about bullies. I complained about cowards. I didn't say anything other than I was a little sad and a little angry. Try reading what I wrote, I'll be right here to help you with any big scary words. The la times link was priceless. I bet you have a subscription or something. And the quotes were just so damn enlightening. Try some critical thought once and a while, don't just parrot everything you read.

So cool karl, you are obviosly nuts, you will never hear from me again. Ever. Stay in your shitty little house in your scummy bathrobe and collect your disability checks. And whack off to some porn. It is the closest you will ever get to a real woman. And post away.
posted by vronsky at 11:12 PM on April 20, 2007


That said, there are so many apologies owed from one user to another at this site still outstanding that a karmic repo man would be busy for years...


Blanket apology - I have insulted many of you over the years, sometimes with malice aforethought. Please accept my humble apologies. ;)
posted by caddis at 11:23 PM on April 20, 2007


Well and good, then. Life is not about insulting strangers you have never met over conversational trifles. While it gives me the supreme pleasure here to not have said anything as vile and insulting to you as you have said to me, I still feel embarrassed for you. I really do. But you know what ? I am even more embarrassed that I said anything to you at all. So, there it is. Oh, well. Carry on.
posted by y2karl at 11:24 PM on April 20, 2007




So cool karl, you are obviosly nuts, you will never hear from me again. Ever. Stay in your shitty little house in your scummy bathrobe and collect your disability checks. And whack off to some porn. It is the closest you will ever get to a real woman. And post away.

are you a cylon? 'cuz you're projecting like one.

*pushes glasses up on nose*
posted by Hat Maui at 1:11 AM on April 21, 2007


Nah, he's just some guy with his fucktards in a bunch.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 3:00 AM on April 21, 2007


GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
posted by Otis at 6:50 AM on April 21, 2007


vronsky, that post was highly entertaining, but probably not for the reason you think.
posted by Malor at 7:24 AM on April 21, 2007


Thank you, cgc373. That was an awesome read. I read the entire thing, took me at least an hour, but it was so worth it.

Recommended reading, for those who haven't yet.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 8:13 AM on April 21, 2007


MetaFilter: It is the closest you will ever get to a real woman.
posted by ericb at 8:19 AM on April 21, 2007


Wait, what was the question?
posted by everichon at 9:21 AM on April 21, 2007


you will never hear from me again. Ever.

Lucky y2karl! So... could you extend the same promise to the rest of us?
posted by languagehat at 12:51 PM on April 21, 2007


languagehat writes 'you will never hear from me again. Ever.

'Lucky y2karl! So... could you extend the same promise to the rest of us?'


It looks like vronsky must have been studying the work of the late, great Alex Reynolds.

This is not an insult though. AR might not have been popular in these parts, but it was that drama queen thread that finally persuaded me to pony up *my* five dollars.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:37 PM on April 21, 2007


Aww l-hat needs some attention, being the big fish in this small pond. How like him to pop in at the end after all the fighting has been done and make his usual niminy-piminy remarks. I will certainly extend that promise to you l-hat. And since you seem to be the leader of the mob when it comes to flameouts, I will repeat for emphasis.

"flameouts are banal. You all look like a bunch of fucktards, the kind who would gather in a crowd and yell "jump" to someone standing on a ledge. Too cowardly to enter the battle of wits, but hungry for someone's blood."
posted by vronsky at 2:26 PM on April 21, 2007


vronsky: hoisted by his own fucktard
posted by found missing at 2:33 PM on April 21, 2007 [1 favorite]


For fuck's sake, vronsky, put it to bed.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:06 PM on April 21, 2007


Jump! Jump! Jump!
posted by MrMoonPie at 3:22 PM on April 21, 2007 [1 favorite]


MrMoonPie: After rereading this and the other thread I'm inclined to say the guy's already jumped five or six times already, but, with Wyle E. Coyote-like imperviousness, he dusts himself off with practiced nonchalance, scurries up five flight of stairs, and gets right back up on that ledge. Ah, the firetrucks, the milling crowd below, the spotlight...

That he's now accusing languagehat of being the attention whore gives me the chuckles something fierce. And I haven't seen any evidence that vronsky's actually packing any heat for this "battle of wits" he's yammering about.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 3:48 PM on April 21, 2007


I'm hereby extending a cordial invitation to Burhanistan to post some wacky psychedelica YouTube video links. Please, Burhanistan, do not forsake us!
posted by cgc373 at 3:56 PM on April 21, 2007


please chill out, fuckers.

xo

the girl admin
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:01 PM on April 21, 2007 [2 favorites]


the battle of wits

The thing is vronsky, there never was a battle of wits. You have managed to misread these threads every step of the way. I don't think you can get the proper perspective unless you wait a few days or a week -- without making any posts or reading Mefi at all -- and come back and read what has actually gone on here. Then you might realise that discretion (ie. shutting up while the going is good) is the better part of valour. So: give it a rest mate.
posted by peacay at 4:04 PM on April 21, 2007


I must find a way to use "niminy-piminy" in a conversation, and soon.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:21 PM on April 21, 2007


It was deleted because mathowie, jessamyn and cortex all have one hand in their pocket and the other one is giving the peace sign.
posted by The Deej at 4:33 PM on April 21, 2007 [1 favorite]


So it's trousers billiards, then?
posted by Kirth Gerson at 4:37 PM on April 21, 2007


Pacifism never felt so good.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:06 PM on April 21, 2007


Ok guys, mom is getting mad at us and supper is ready, so I bid you goodnight, and leave you with this. xoxo
posted by vronsky at 5:12 PM on April 21, 2007


don't forget to leave room for dessert
posted by pyramid termite at 5:20 PM on April 21, 2007


Pacifism? I hardly even know him!


I've got nothing
posted by found missing at 5:32 PM on April 21, 2007


Has this wendelled yet?
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:34 PM on April 21, 2007


Wendell One or Wendell Two?
posted by The Deej at 6:01 PM on April 21, 2007


THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.
Wendell is really my middle name; when the people filling out my birth certificate asked my parents what they would cakkme, they said "let's just call it quits".
posted by wendell at 1:28 AM on April 22, 2007


We used to be close; now you never cakkme.
posted by Dizzy at 1:30 AM on April 22, 2007


Don't cakk your ex, it just gets complicated.
posted by Firas at 1:52 AM on April 22, 2007


Pacifism never felt so good.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
posted by deborah at 6:38 PM on April 22, 2007


wow just wow
posted by vronsky at 6:58 PM on April 22, 2007


and wow some more - double wow
posted by vronsky at 7:08 PM on April 22, 2007


fuck me - paging miko
posted by vronsky at 7:10 PM on April 22, 2007


gisele kerozene
posted by vronsky at 7:39 PM on April 22, 2007


Who cares whether this wendells or not, as long as it wends soon.
posted by dg at 8:30 PM on April 22, 2007


Wendell One or Wendell Two?
posted by The Deej

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.
posted by wendell


Oh good, I didn't stay caught up on the whole "I wanna whore my name out to the highest bidder" thing, so I guess it didn't happen.

Orrrrr..... did it??????
posted by The Deej at 8:37 PM on April 22, 2007


Deej: the Readers Indigestion Condensed Soup Version: I got ONE offer; it was a joke; I tried to turn it around into my own joke; it did not wendell. You're stuck with me.
posted by wendell at 9:47 PM on April 22, 2007


And Dizzy, where's my cakkcake?
posted by wendell at 9:49 PM on April 22, 2007


Cakkake? Is that another one of them Japanese preversions? Is it... what I think?
posted by Methylviolet at 11:07 PM on April 22, 2007


Oh, Methylviolet, if what you think is what I think you think, please, please, please, no.
posted by cgc373 at 12:58 AM on April 23, 2007


I got ONE offer; it was a joke; I tried to turn it around into my own joke; it did not wendell. You're stuck with me.

I'll give ya a dollar.
posted by The Deej at 6:37 AM on April 23, 2007


FedEx tells me they won't deliver to the bowling alley any more because you're never around to sign for it.
We gotta find you a proper house!
posted by Dizzy at 6:39 AM on April 23, 2007


trip to the moon
posted by vronsky at 1:34 PM on April 23, 2007


Sad to say, we may need to close this thread so vronsky doesn't take the opportunity to commit seppuku in here.
posted by Firas at 1:40 PM on April 23, 2007


Er, that reads meaner than I meant it to be. You get my point though.
posted by Firas at 1:46 PM on April 23, 2007


It's not seppuku if someone else gets your point, Firas. Ya prevert.

These Night Flight videos are fantastic, Vronsky -- are you hucking these little gems in this thread like honeycakes to Charon? VRONSKY MUST DIE! HE MUST D -- oooh! Peter Max! *Snorf-snorf* Um, where was I? Right -- BLOOD! I WANT BLOO-oooh! The special effects of ancient peoples! *slaver-slaver-snorf*
posted by Methylviolet at 2:13 PM on April 23, 2007 [1 favorite]


"It's not seppuku if someone else gets your point, Firas."

Whoa! That has to be the most unpredictable wordplay ever riffed off something I said. I quit.
posted by Firas at 2:21 PM on April 23, 2007


the wizard of speed and time

a little irony

devil's ball

wildwood

They took down my fpp MV, saying it didn't make sense. Stop making sense, I say. Someone should repost them, they are too good not to share. Tk? MV? Wendell?
posted by vronsky at 2:36 PM on April 23, 2007


Do we get to do that? If I reposted the links from your deleted post, in a blahblah informative paragraph:

Night Flight aired Friday and Saturday nights on the USA Network from 1981-1988 in the heady early days of cable. It was one of the first places to see underground films and shorts, music documentaries, and conceptual, artistically-intended music videos -- not to mention MST3K-style parody and general weirdness.

... that'd be ok? I wouldn't get cakkake'd?
posted by Methylviolet at 3:08 PM on April 23, 2007


I got ONE offer; it was a joke; I tried to turn it around into my own joke; it did not wendell. You're stuck with me.
I'll give ya a dollar.


I'll go $1.10.
posted by dg at 3:16 PM on April 23, 2007


Presentation matters; putting together a clear post on Night Flight would help a lot more people know what's going on with it, certainly.

Note that presentation isn't definitive—unclear posts on interesting things don't always get deleted, and impeccably presented posts of shitty links will get nuked sometimes. I didn't really look at vronsky's post one way or the other—didn't have time to dig into The Mystery Videos when I saw it—but jessamyn may have nuked it as a combined reaction to unclearness + vronsky-being-really-antagonistic-lately.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:22 PM on April 23, 2007


You wouldn't get cakkaked by me mv (unless you asked nicely ;) But I think that there are a bunch of night flight fans that would come crawling out of the woodwork and support such a post. And appreciate seeing them before YouTube yanks 'em down. Just, maybe, leave my name out of it. I'm kinda persona non grata right now.

I mean, the first minute or so of that Jean Luc Ponty vid is almost prophetic.
posted by vronsky at 3:25 PM on April 23, 2007


OK - well they are wonderful, so here goes nothing. All the favorites will make me feel a littel fradulent though.
posted by Methylviolet at 3:29 PM on April 23, 2007 [1 favorite]


All the favorites will make me feel a littel fradulent though.

God, tell me about it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:40 PM on April 23, 2007


Here ya go
posted by Methylviolet at 3:41 PM on April 23, 2007


Awesome! It will be our little secret methylviolet. The first of many I hope.

And the deletion was cool cortex, I probably deserved it. But several of my favourite members had commented, including vacapinta, who I always think is way bright, so that part sucked. Somehow it all made perfect sense last night, even if it wasn't 4/20, wink.
posted by vronsky at 3:51 PM on April 23, 2007


I'm glad you're feeling better, vron.
I saved you a big piece of marzipan.
posted by Dizzy at 3:59 PM on April 23, 2007 [1 favorite]


Comrade Dizzy, your offer of marzipan to comrade vronsky has been duly noted. As comrade vronsky's status is currently being evaluated, please note that this offer may, in future, be counted as in your favor, or may be be counted against you. A decision will be made at the proper time, and you may or may not be notified about them.

Also note that the Central Committee has not (as of yet) determined whether 'marzipan' is to be classified as 'cake'. If, upon review, it is not classified thusly, the repercussions for you could be dire. All in all, comrade Dizzy, you would appear to be walking on thin ice here. It is recommended that you go back and reread some of the Cake Leader's early manifestos, to restore revolutionary Cake zeal.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:49 PM on April 23, 2007


I am duly chastened, and await further instruction.
posted by Dizzy at 4:52 PM on April 23, 2007


Vronsky, I know you put them up to this:
Great post, Methylviolet! Fastastic post! Thanks for the post! Kissy noise Methylviolet!

Well, yeah, you guys, my Night Flight post is OK, I guess. But how about that Aishwarya Rai post, huh? Or the fostercare one -- that was a humdinger, wasn't it? I really hit that one out of the park, wouldn't you say? And if you like this post, you'll love the racially motivated Long Beach mob violence post!
posted by Methylviolet at 10:27 PM on April 23, 2007


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