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Zdravstvuite valued Party Comrades! Latest Troll-state propaganda has it that the glorious Mefi motherland is wilting in the face of superior technological competitors ! Beware decadent democratic popularity-seeking! The Party already knows the minds of all citizens and our diligent moderating heros must continue to enforce the lessons of years of collective toil!
stumbleupon is more popular than mefi because it's a huge web app with a giant staff that is promoted all over the web. I don't see the point you're trying to make.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:43 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:43 PM on March 17, 2008
Did you call me a hero?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:43 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:43 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Your point. Would you show us it?
posted by Wolfdog at 3:51 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Wolfdog at 3:51 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Alexa is a poor measurement of anything other than the number of people dumb enough to install the Alexa toolbar.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 3:51 PM on March 17, 2008 [4 favorites]
posted by Armitage Shanks at 3:51 PM on March 17, 2008 [4 favorites]
Three jessamyns and a mathowie in the first three minutes. Good catch! No luck with the crafty, elusive cortex, though.
posted by timeistight at 3:52 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by timeistight at 3:52 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
The door. Can we show you it?
posted by kuujjuarapik at 3:52 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by kuujjuarapik at 3:52 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Huh?
posted by trip and a half at 3:53 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by trip and a half at 3:53 PM on March 17, 2008
WTF?
our diligent moderating heros must continue to enforce the lessons of years of collective toil!
Yes. Exactly. You've discovered the secret. Congrats. Now do what jessamyn said in the delete.
Also - what's stumbleupon, and why should I care?
(I think cortex is still hanging out in the neverending sansgras MeTa.)
posted by rtha at 3:54 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
our diligent moderating heros must continue to enforce the lessons of years of collective toil!
Yes. Exactly. You've discovered the secret. Congrats. Now do what jessamyn said in the delete.
Also - what's stumbleupon, and why should I care?
(I think cortex is still hanging out in the neverending sansgras MeTa.)
posted by rtha at 3:54 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Oh, I think he is complaining about his crappy editorial anti-whale FPP getting deleted last week. Why did it take him so long? Wait, is it still last week in Australia?
posted by Rock Steady at 3:57 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by Rock Steady at 3:57 PM on March 17, 2008
Buh? Why the link to your deleted thread?
Is this supposed to be some sort of "Haha! My post sucked? Well, this data says you suck!" thing?
posted by CKmtl at 3:58 PM on March 17, 2008
Is this supposed to be some sort of "Haha! My post sucked? Well, this data says you suck!" thing?
posted by CKmtl at 3:58 PM on March 17, 2008
(I think cortex is still hanging out in the neverending sansgras MeTa.)
Nope. He's hanging out with that Extensis guy wendell snagged in the type post.
posted by tellurian at 3:59 PM on March 17, 2008
Nope. He's hanging out with that Extensis guy wendell snagged in the type post.
posted by tellurian at 3:59 PM on March 17, 2008
Actually, stumbleupon is great, but the Alexa toolbar as a ratings indicator is teh suck.
Stumbleupon, rhta, is kind of like peeking in on other people's bookmarks of weird and interesting sites. You put in your interests (radiobox) and then hit the stumble button on your toolbar (comes with stumbleupon) and are taken to a random site. You can hit thumbs up if you want to add it to your stumbles, thumbs up if you hate it (all, again, on the toolbar), or nothing at all if you don't really care either way. You can also add sites that you find on your own to the stumbleupon database whenever you want by hitting the thumbs up, too. It's a lot of fun, but I don't use it nearly so much now that I am a Mefi groupie.
posted by misha at 3:59 PM on March 17, 2008
Stumbleupon, rhta, is kind of like peeking in on other people's bookmarks of weird and interesting sites. You put in your interests (radiobox) and then hit the stumble button on your toolbar (comes with stumbleupon) and are taken to a random site. You can hit thumbs up if you want to add it to your stumbles, thumbs up if you hate it (all, again, on the toolbar), or nothing at all if you don't really care either way. You can also add sites that you find on your own to the stumbleupon database whenever you want by hitting the thumbs up, too. It's a lot of fun, but I don't use it nearly so much now that I am a Mefi groupie.
posted by misha at 3:59 PM on March 17, 2008
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed community weblog, jessamyn and mathowie would certainly want you to believe that the whaling post was a bad post. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in the gray deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed community weblog, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must undelete the post! The defense rests.
posted by grouse at 4:02 PM on March 17, 2008 [3 favorites]
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in the gray deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed community weblog, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must undelete the post! The defense rests.
posted by grouse at 4:02 PM on March 17, 2008 [3 favorites]
Instead of posting this opaque mobius of suck Meta, you might have just e-mailed jessamyn. She's a nice person and she'd probably have given you a straight answer to the question of why your post got deleted.
Better still, you might just take the deletion on the chin and try again later. Seriously; it's just a post. Bake some cookies and smoke a bowl or something.
posted by TryTheTilapia at 4:12 PM on March 17, 2008
Better still, you might just take the deletion on the chin and try again later. Seriously; it's just a post. Bake some cookies and smoke a bowl or something.
posted by TryTheTilapia at 4:12 PM on March 17, 2008
misha - thanks. Looks like I won't really need stumbleupon, what with have metafilter, where I'm told what to look at and if I say "That's boring", I get slapped. That's community love!
posted by rtha at 4:14 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by rtha at 4:14 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm entirely too sober to understand what is going here. But it appears to me that he is somehow not pleased with his post being deleted. Seems to me he doesn't get it. If people would just stop making advocacy posts, then they won't have their posts deleted with GYOB reasons. But that is a big 'if.'
If worms had daggers, birds wouldn't fuck with them.
posted by dios at 4:18 PM on March 17, 2008 [3 favorites]
If worms had daggers, birds wouldn't fuck with them.
posted by dios at 4:18 PM on March 17, 2008 [3 favorites]
I'm not nearly sober enough to understand what's going on here.
posted by box at 4:19 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by box at 4:19 PM on March 17, 2008
> If worms had daggers, birds wouldn't fuck with them.
Plus it would be way easier for them to burrow in the dirt.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 4:20 PM on March 17, 2008
Plus it would be way easier for them to burrow in the dirt.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 4:20 PM on March 17, 2008
You need a hug, don't you? Damned opaque way of asking for it.
posted by mumkin at 4:22 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by mumkin at 4:22 PM on March 17, 2008
Did you call me a hero?
Yes, you mods collectively are a delicious sandwich.
The thing that will keep you up at night is wonder who is the meat, who is the cheese & who is the bread?
posted by juv3nal at 4:27 PM on March 17, 2008
If worms had daggers, birds wouldn't fuck with them.
Sure they would, because a worm doesn't have arms or hands. What's he going to do? Nudge the dagger in a threatening manner?
Worm: *nudge, nudge*
Bird: "Seriously?" *chomp*
posted by the littlest brussels sprout at 4:37 PM on March 17, 2008 [7 favorites]
Sure they would, because a worm doesn't have arms or hands. What's he going to do? Nudge the dagger in a threatening manner?
Worm: *nudge, nudge*
Bird: "Seriously?" *chomp*
posted by the littlest brussels sprout at 4:37 PM on March 17, 2008 [7 favorites]
The People's Republic of Zdravstvuite. "A triumph of lunacy over common sense."
posted by tellurian at 4:38 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by tellurian at 4:38 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Alexa is a poor measurement of anything other than the number of people dumb enough to install the Alexa toolbar.
And, notably, StumbleUpon is a site that makes active use of a toolbar. Which suggests a kind of happy synergy for that site w/r/t people who use it being willing to install the Alexa toolbar, dumb or otherwise.
No luck with the crafty, elusive cortex, though.
I was helping my dayboss do some calculations in Excel, and then I was doing some laundry, and now I am doing this!
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:47 PM on March 17, 2008
And, notably, StumbleUpon is a site that makes active use of a toolbar. Which suggests a kind of happy synergy for that site w/r/t people who use it being willing to install the Alexa toolbar, dumb or otherwise.
No luck with the crafty, elusive cortex, though.
I was helping my dayboss do some calculations in Excel, and then I was doing some laundry, and now I am doing this!
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:47 PM on March 17, 2008
So no word yet on the kind of pot DirtyCreature was smoking when he posted? I'm guessing it was good.
posted by nola at 4:56 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by nola at 4:56 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Well, DirtyCreature's profile indicates he used to be Australian, so I can only assume that wherever he's living now he doesn't have access to anything decent, like Mulimbimby Madness or Barossa Bush Buds. More's the shame.
posted by Jimbob at 4:59 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by Jimbob at 4:59 PM on March 17, 2008
So appropriate that cortex is doing the laundry because we have this DirtyCreature who really needs a good washing - hot water, with bleach AND OxyClean, and an hour's presoak wouldn't hurt either.
posted by wendell at 5:02 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by wendell at 5:02 PM on March 17, 2008
Dirty Creature of habit
Little horror here to stay
Anyone in his right mind would tell it to go away
But the river of dread runs deep
Full of unspeakable things
The creature don't mess around
I don't wanna mess with him
I don't wanna sail, I don't wanna sail
I don't wanna, I don't wanna sail tonight
Dirty Creature's got me at a disadvantage from the inside.
posted by scody at 5:07 PM on March 17, 2008
Little horror here to stay
Anyone in his right mind would tell it to go away
But the river of dread runs deep
Full of unspeakable things
The creature don't mess around
I don't wanna mess with him
I don't wanna sail, I don't wanna sail
I don't wanna, I don't wanna sail tonight
Dirty Creature's got me at a disadvantage from the inside.
posted by scody at 5:07 PM on March 17, 2008
In Soviet Russia, StumbleUpon stumbles upon you!
I'm so, so sorry. I know this isn't fark, but... it just... So very sorry.
posted by socratic at 5:14 PM on March 17, 2008
I'm so, so sorry. I know this isn't fark, but... it just... So very sorry.
posted by socratic at 5:14 PM on March 17, 2008
DirtyCreature's implied thesis seems to be that perceived excessive moderation may have driven people away from the site, and towards "competitors" like StumbleUpon.
While undoubtedly some people have left in a huff over one thing or another, I feel that he or she is comparing apples with oranges.
StumbleUpon's "Popular Topics" are listed as animation, arts, bizarre, computers, video games, humour, music & sci-tech.
In contrast, MetaFilter's most "Popular Tags" seem to be Bush, film, flash, games, history, humour, Iraq, music, photography, politics, religion & science.
I'm not sure what to conclude from this, but my best guess is that some Iraq-loving Bush-haters with no sense of humour or history are spending too much time watching movies, playing games, taking photos, making or listening to music or getting into arguments about politics, religion & science to be visiting as regularly as they once did.
That, and more and more teenagers are stumbling upon StumbleUpon every day.
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:43 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
While undoubtedly some people have left in a huff over one thing or another, I feel that he or she is comparing apples with oranges.
StumbleUpon's "Popular Topics" are listed as animation, arts, bizarre, computers, video games, humour, music & sci-tech.
In contrast, MetaFilter's most "Popular Tags" seem to be Bush, film, flash, games, history, humour, Iraq, music, photography, politics, religion & science.
I'm not sure what to conclude from this, but my best guess is that some Iraq-loving Bush-haters with no sense of humour or history are spending too much time watching movies, playing games, taking photos, making or listening to music or getting into arguments about politics, religion & science to be visiting as regularly as they once did.
That, and more and more teenagers are stumbling upon StumbleUpon every day.
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:43 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Impressive and generous gabberingnonsense-to-English translation there, Ubu.
posted by CKmtl at 5:51 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by CKmtl at 5:51 PM on March 17, 2008
They censored my didgeridoo!
posted by kuujjuarapik at 5:55 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by kuujjuarapik at 5:55 PM on March 17, 2008
Thanks, CKmtl, but I can't take credit, really.
One is forced to gain a working knowledge of gabberingnonsense to make even partial sense of the comments at places like YouTube & StumbledUpon.
posted by UbuRoivas at 6:07 PM on March 17, 2008
One is forced to gain a working knowledge of gabberingnonsense to make even partial sense of the comments at places like YouTube & StumbledUpon.
posted by UbuRoivas at 6:07 PM on March 17, 2008
That was not a didgeridoo, I was happy to see you.
posted by Dr. Curare at 6:13 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by Dr. Curare at 6:13 PM on March 17, 2008
Suppression of pro-democracy protests is a daily occurrence, the ban on cars has been repealed, inheritance tax has recently been abolished, and the dead are minced up and sold to people in burger form.
Damn, I thought that burger tasted funny. That's the last time I visit the People's Republic of Zdravstvuite.
posted by languagehat at 6:16 PM on March 17, 2008
Damn, I thought that burger tasted funny. That's the last time I visit the People's Republic of Zdravstvuite.
posted by languagehat at 6:16 PM on March 17, 2008
cortex: "I was helping my dayboss do some calculations in Excel..."
This can only mean one thing...
posted by Rhaomi at 6:19 PM on March 17, 2008 [4 favorites]
This can only mean one thing...
posted by Rhaomi at 6:19 PM on March 17, 2008 [4 favorites]
That's the last time I visit the People's Republic of Zdravstvuite.
Which has me wondering: if Zdravstvuite were multi-ethnic, would it be more properly titled "the Peoples' Republic"...?
posted by UbuRoivas at 6:26 PM on March 17, 2008
Which has me wondering: if Zdravstvuite were multi-ethnic, would it be more properly titled "the Peoples' Republic"...?
posted by UbuRoivas at 6:26 PM on March 17, 2008
Where is quonsar? I think his wisdom is needed here, and hope he answers the call during this difficult time of reflection for all of us.
posted by StrikeTheViol at 6:41 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by StrikeTheViol at 6:41 PM on March 17, 2008
This on other hand proves what I've always feared : Metafilter is actually Fark's geeky and less popular younger sibling.
posted by tkolar at 6:47 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by tkolar at 6:47 PM on March 17, 2008
Where is quonsar?
quonsar is burning in his tank, and fire is eating his stomach.
posted by quonsar at 7:44 PM on March 17, 2008
quonsar is burning in his tank, and fire is eating his stomach.
posted by quonsar at 7:44 PM on March 17, 2008
Bok bok!
posted by A dead Quaker at 7:51 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by A dead Quaker at 7:51 PM on March 17, 2008
This on other hand proves what I've always feared
Actually, the parallels with fark are interesting. Both fark & mefi rose strongly & peaked around mid-2006, and have been trending clearly downwards ever since.
DirtyCreature might have been partially right, in that people who are just wanting their quick fix of daily quirk might be preferring to go to something a bit lighter & more teenybopperish like StumbleUpon, especially if it's more flashy & visual, and if categories & tags are simpler for browsing one's area of interest.
I'm not sure that overmoderation has anything to do with it, though. To test that, I've written a blog entry about how hypocritical Australians are for protesting the slaughter of whales by Japanese, whilst simultaneously culling dingoes & kangaroos. If DirtyCreature's thesis is correct, I'd expect to see my page hits go through the roof, as the StumbleUpon crowd applaud my clever blog entry.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:54 PM on March 17, 2008
Actually, the parallels with fark are interesting. Both fark & mefi rose strongly & peaked around mid-2006, and have been trending clearly downwards ever since.
DirtyCreature might have been partially right, in that people who are just wanting their quick fix of daily quirk might be preferring to go to something a bit lighter & more teenybopperish like StumbleUpon, especially if it's more flashy & visual, and if categories & tags are simpler for browsing one's area of interest.
I'm not sure that overmoderation has anything to do with it, though. To test that, I've written a blog entry about how hypocritical Australians are for protesting the slaughter of whales by Japanese, whilst simultaneously culling dingoes & kangaroos. If DirtyCreature's thesis is correct, I'd expect to see my page hits go through the roof, as the StumbleUpon crowd applaud my clever blog entry.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:54 PM on March 17, 2008
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks?Because, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, they didn't have midget fetish websites?
posted by Pinback at 8:23 PM on March 17, 2008
I think everything that needs to be said has been said.
Can I link this page to StumbleUpon now?
posted by never used baby shoes at 8:26 PM on March 17, 2008
Can I link this page to StumbleUpon now?
posted by never used baby shoes at 8:26 PM on March 17, 2008
Now here's a kick in the head.
I'm starting to think this is more an artifact of alexa's data gathering than anything else.
posted by tkolar at 9:19 PM on March 17, 2008
I'm starting to think this is more an artifact of alexa's data gathering than anything else.
posted by tkolar at 9:19 PM on March 17, 2008
我会吃掉你的孩子。 百胜百胜！
posted by not_on_display at 10:01 PM on March 17, 2008
posted by not_on_display at 10:01 PM on March 17, 2008
jessamynAdmin: "We compete with stumbleupon?"
Most hearty expressions of jocularity, comrade! Konechno, all Party members are well aware that the proletarian liberates himself by abolishing all competition, private property, and class differences!
posted by DirtyCreature at 10:23 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Most hearty expressions of jocularity, comrade! Konechno, all Party members are well aware that the proletarian liberates himself by abolishing all competition, private property, and class differences!
posted by DirtyCreature at 10:23 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Wow, this has just gone from a pointless waste of everyone's time to an even pointlesser waste of everyone's time.
posted by tkolar at 10:25 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by tkolar at 10:25 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
Dirty, put down the bong, back away from the 40, and go to bed.
posted by rtha at 10:29 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by rtha at 10:29 PM on March 17, 2008 [1 favorite]
>I'm not nearly sober enough to understand what's going on here.
>>I still have no idea what the OP wants.
I'm guessing the poster doesn't either.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:17 PM on March 17, 2008
>>I still have no idea what the OP wants.
I'm guessing the poster doesn't either.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:17 PM on March 17, 2008
I'm starting to think this is more an artifact of alexa's data gathering than anything else.
Permit me a sympathetic "no duh". When there's a closely correlated graph curve for the Alexa popularity of essentially unrelated websites, it's likely an indication in the shifting demographic of Alexa toolbar users, and not of the raw traffic of the sites in question. Alexa is somewhere a couple orders of magnitude below Wikipedia for reliability—not bad for a thumbnail sketch of the situation, but god help you if you rely on it for something resembling captial-d Data.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:20 PM on March 17, 2008
Permit me a sympathetic "no duh". When there's a closely correlated graph curve for the Alexa popularity of essentially unrelated websites, it's likely an indication in the shifting demographic of Alexa toolbar users, and not of the raw traffic of the sites in question. Alexa is somewhere a couple orders of magnitude below Wikipedia for reliability—not bad for a thumbnail sketch of the situation, but god help you if you rely on it for something resembling captial-d Data.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:20 PM on March 17, 2008
In Soviet MeFi, your own blog posts you, fuckwit! Plus something about stumbling around.
I think this is what dirtycreature is trying to say.
posted by taz at 1:31 AM on March 18, 2008
I think this is what dirtycreature is trying to say.
posted by taz at 1:31 AM on March 18, 2008
y'know, this reminds me so much of this awesome thread.
risk
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:28 AM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
risk
posted by UbuRoivas at 5:28 AM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
Wow, thanks for reminding me of that thread. It was a treat rereading loquacious's classic takedown:
Uh, what were we talking about?
posted by languagehat at 6:25 AM on March 18, 2008 [4 favorites]
3.) Instead these users decide to spam my blog with repeated (over and over again) re-posts of my original entry.Good times!
Well, what did you expect, brainiac, candy and roses? You're the one that declared war, you lackwitted sausage factory. It's like you randomly punched someone in the face and then started whining incessently as they just happened to be an 800 pound gorilla with a quadruple blackbelt in Aikido and they proceeded to systematically divest you of your ass and hand it to you. Way to go, Spongebob.
Uh, what were we talking about?
posted by languagehat at 6:25 AM on March 18, 2008 [4 favorites]
good times.
loquacious' [note the lack of the redundant s] takedown was a classic example of nuking tadpoles in a teaspoon.
which has nothing to do with this thread, of course.
back to the subject at hand, i suppose...
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:20 AM on March 18, 2008
loquacious' [note the lack of the redundant s] takedown was a classic example of nuking tadpoles in a teaspoon.
which has nothing to do with this thread, of course.
back to the subject at hand, i suppose...
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:20 AM on March 18, 2008
heh:
MeFi isn't some "free society". It's not even society in general. It's a fucking website, and you're tilting at windmills, except instead of a lance and a horse you've got a asthmatic pug, a cocktail swizzle and a malformed sense of the political spectrum.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:24 AM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
MeFi isn't some "free society". It's not even society in general. It's a fucking website, and you're tilting at windmills, except instead of a lance and a horse you've got a asthmatic pug, a cocktail swizzle and a malformed sense of the political spectrum.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:24 AM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
I am all for incoherent and uncomfortable, but this thread still sucks.
/end communication
posted by Mister_A at 7:48 AM on March 18, 2008
/end communication
posted by Mister_A at 7:48 AM on March 18, 2008
UbuRoivas: "which has nothing to do with this thread, of course.
back to the subject at hand, i suppose..."
7 posts this thread? 14 posts in the whaling thread? Seriously dude, you're a human ReloadEvery add-on.
posted by DirtyCreature at 8:25 AM on March 18, 2008
back to the subject at hand, i suppose..."
7 posts this thread? 14 posts in the whaling thread? Seriously dude, you're a human ReloadEvery add-on.
posted by DirtyCreature at 8:25 AM on March 18, 2008
Hey, you're back! Would you mind explaining why you posted this nonsense?
posted by languagehat at 8:39 AM on March 18, 2008
posted by languagehat at 8:39 AM on March 18, 2008
But could you please wash your hands first?
posted by kuujjuarapik at 8:45 AM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by kuujjuarapik at 8:45 AM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
languagehat: "Hey, you're back! Would you mind explaining why you posted this nonsense?"
Think it must have been these.
posted by DirtyCreature at 8:51 AM on March 18, 2008
Think it must have been these.
posted by DirtyCreature at 8:51 AM on March 18, 2008
USE YOUR WORDS!
posted by shmegegge at 9:05 AM on March 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by shmegegge at 9:05 AM on March 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
also, does anyone else think that people who use alexa and stumbleupon just have browser windows half full up with worthless toolbars? google, alexa, stumbleupon, livesearch, del.icio.us, etc...
posted by shmegegge at 9:08 AM on March 18, 2008
posted by shmegegge at 9:08 AM on March 18, 2008
Ahem. I like stumbleupon. I use FF and I'm on a mac and thus hate and despise (both at once! Wow!) alexa. So no, I don't have all the other trash buggering up my toolbars, okay?
Why are stumbleupon users being sent to the back of the bus on this thread? I don't know how many references I see to SA and snark on Mefi, and I don't go to those sites, but I don't look down my nose at people who do.
Much.
posted by misha at 10:22 AM on March 18, 2008
Why are stumbleupon users being sent to the back of the bus on this thread? I don't know how many references I see to SA and snark on Mefi, and I don't go to those sites, but I don't look down my nose at people who do.
Much.
posted by misha at 10:22 AM on March 18, 2008
it's ok, we're not looking down our noses at you, promise. we're just pitying you.
posted by shmegegge at 10:28 AM on March 18, 2008
posted by shmegegge at 10:28 AM on March 18, 2008
Oh, I've got nothing against SU itself. Every once in a while I get a weird spike of traffic to one or another of my websites or blog posts and I appreciate the heck out of that, and if people enjoy using it in general more power to 'em. It's just kind of an odd corner of the web, and toolbar stuff turns me off something fierce.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:37 AM on March 18, 2008
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:37 AM on March 18, 2008
y'know, this reminds me so much of this awesome thread.
That's epic. Looks like the full text of 2 Gentlemen of Verona is in there.
posted by juv3nal at 11:58 AM on March 18, 2008
7 posts this thread? 14 posts in the whaling thread? Seriously dude, you're a human ReloadEvery add-on.
Yeh, it's been a bit quiet at work these past couple of weeks. That's the nature of a project-related role.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:22 PM on March 18, 2008
Yeh, it's been a bit quiet at work these past couple of weeks. That's the nature of a project-related role.
posted by UbuRoivas at 2:22 PM on March 18, 2008
Can't we all just have some whale sushi and a few kangaroo sausages and call it a day?
posted by StrikeTheViol at 3:16 PM on March 18, 2008
posted by StrikeTheViol at 3:16 PM on March 18, 2008
Can you eat some more chips?
You were mildly entertaining when you were couching your stumbleupon comparisons in vigourous communist rants.
posted by CKmtl at 3:21 PM on March 18, 2008
You were mildly entertaining when you were couching your stumbleupon comparisons in vigourous communist rants.
posted by CKmtl at 3:21 PM on March 18, 2008
dingoes in a blanket.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 3:27 PM on March 18, 2008
posted by kuujjuarapik at 3:27 PM on March 18, 2008
Alright in the interests of Гласность, I admit that I had initially misunderstood the B in GYOB to be "back" and not "blog". Nevertheless, I would have made the exact same post and point above with only slightly different emphasis. The whaling post I made was important, interesting, informative and debate-attracting. Rigid social policy enforcement is obviously doing MeFi more harm than allowing a little individual vigour towards a subject.
posted by DirtyCreature at 3:52 PM on March 18, 2008
posted by DirtyCreature at 3:52 PM on March 18, 2008
heh - i ate kangaroo sausages last night for dinner; not kidding. unlike just about every other sausage on the market, they're extremely lean - only about 2% fat.
posted by UbuRoivas at 3:56 PM on March 18, 2008
posted by UbuRoivas at 3:56 PM on March 18, 2008
Ah. Your post makes more sense in plain words; there's something to actually respond to, now. For one thing,
debate-attracting
is a pretty terrible justification for a post. If good debate happens to come out of an interesting post, great. If you're baiting an argument, pretty much the opposite of great. The post was so thoroughly dripping with editorial goop that the whole floor was wet.
Individual vigor is something that individual blogs accomodate well. Metafilter is not your blog, however, and the vigor of the individual tends to make for crappy front page posts for a variety of reasons.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:02 PM on March 18, 2008
debate-attracting
is a pretty terrible justification for a post. If good debate happens to come out of an interesting post, great. If you're baiting an argument, pretty much the opposite of great. The post was so thoroughly dripping with editorial goop that the whole floor was wet.
Individual vigor is something that individual blogs accomodate well. Metafilter is not your blog, however, and the vigor of the individual tends to make for crappy front page posts for a variety of reasons.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:02 PM on March 18, 2008
Rigid social policy enforcement is obviously doing MeFi more harm than allowing a little individual vigour towards a subject.
No. Making a post including the phrase "Jap bastards" as well as gratuitous kangaroo abuse is what sunk your whaling post.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:06 PM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
No. Making a post including the phrase "Jap bastards" as well as gratuitous kangaroo abuse is what sunk your whaling post.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:06 PM on March 18, 2008 [2 favorites]
cortexAdmin: "the vigor of the individual tends to make for crappy front page posts for a variety of reasons."
I think you really need to exercise some more discretion in your policy application.
Making a post including the phrase "Jap bastards" as well as gratuitous kangaroo abuse is what sunk your whaling post.
*Shakes head in disgust* You really just don't get it do you? You really don't.
*Puts on a disguise, gets a fake passport, bribes the immigration комисса́р and catches the next plane out to the big bad internets before facing a mock execution trial - Mefi style.*
posted by DirtyCreature at 4:16 PM on March 18, 2008
I think you really need to exercise some more discretion in your policy application.
Making a post including the phrase "Jap bastards" as well as gratuitous kangaroo abuse is what sunk your whaling post.
*Shakes head in disgust* You really just don't get it do you? You really don't.
*Puts on a disguise, gets a fake passport, bribes the immigration комисса́р and catches the next plane out to the big bad internets before facing a mock execution trial - Mefi style.*
posted by DirtyCreature at 4:16 PM on March 18, 2008
OK, I think we all get it now. You were cute, but in the end it comes down to a "the big bad mods deleted my FPP! No one understands my special snowflakiness!" (I especially love how you quote cortex as cortexAdmin - way to make your point).
Alright, I appreciate you are a special snowflake. However, whatever style you were going for has obviously failed. If you choose, you can try again. You can also choose to leave. Whichever you choose, I'm hoping this thread is done.
posted by never used baby shoes at 4:25 PM on March 18, 2008
Alright, I appreciate you are a special snowflake. However, whatever style you were going for has obviously failed. If you choose, you can try again. You can also choose to leave. Whichever you choose, I'm hoping this thread is done.
posted by never used baby shoes at 4:25 PM on March 18, 2008
never used baby shoes, I was thinking about your username on the way home from Michigan. I know where it comes from, from reading your user page, but I have always thought of it as sort of a tough, defiant "so tuff that I never used baby shoes" That said, I think DirtyCreature is suing a greasemonkey script that points out who the admins are in-thread using this mechanism.
DC, you've been around a long time, I don't understand why this is a difficult deletion to understand. I do get the fact that you were affecting others' voices for the purpose of hyperbole when you wrote your post. That doesn't change its deleteworthiness.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:32 PM on March 18, 2008
DC, you've been around a long time, I don't understand why this is a difficult deletion to understand. I do get the fact that you were affecting others' voices for the purpose of hyperbole when you wrote your post. That doesn't change its deleteworthiness.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:32 PM on March 18, 2008
Damn, I forgot I wrote that. And I was really confused about why it was getting favorites all of a sudden.
posted by loquacious at 4:33 PM on March 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by loquacious at 4:33 PM on March 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
I think DirtyCreature is suing a greasemonkey script that points out who the admins are in-thread using this mechanism.
Ah, I see. I didn't know there was a script for that purpose. In which case my comment was uncalled for.
never used baby shoes, I was thinking about your username on the way home from Michigan. I know where it comes from, from reading your user page, but I have always thought of it as sort of a tough, defiant "so tuff that I never used baby shoes"
I didn't realize it came off that way, or that I did...frankly, the interesting thing to me with has been that a few users have made the assumption from it that I'm female. And I'm not "tuff", I'm really a pushover with a big warm gooey coated centre of more goo.
But, I'm glad to know you were thinking about my username. *Blushes and runs away*
posted by never used baby shoes at 4:41 PM on March 18, 2008
Ah, I see. I didn't know there was a script for that purpose. In which case my comment was uncalled for.
never used baby shoes, I was thinking about your username on the way home from Michigan. I know where it comes from, from reading your user page, but I have always thought of it as sort of a tough, defiant "so tuff that I never used baby shoes"
I didn't realize it came off that way, or that I did...frankly, the interesting thing to me with has been that a few users have made the assumption from it that I'm female. And I'm not "tuff", I'm really a pushover with a big warm gooey coated centre of more goo.
But, I'm glad to know you were thinking about my username. *Blushes and runs away*
posted by never used baby shoes at 4:41 PM on March 18, 2008
DirtyCreature - seriously, mate, your post boiled down to this:
"Aussies complain about Japanese whaling, but they kill dingoes & kangaroos. Therefore, they are hypocrites, and probably racist, amirite?"
That really reeks of bloggish axe-grinding, and isn't a particularly well thought-out argument.
For a start, native animals are typically culled because they threaten crops and / or livestock (in the kangaroos' case, by competing for scarce food). The closest analogy in the sea would be if schools of sharks were seriously harming fishers' interests by eating all the fish, or if some kind of well-adapted & tasty fish were crowding out all the others, whereby you'd catch the tasty fish & eat them instead.
There are probably all kinds of interesting & informative posts one could make about the eco-politics of culling animals, but they wouldn't have anything at all to do with whaling, and playing the racist hypocrisy card on top of a spurious comparison between whales & Australian native animals didn't help much.
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:52 PM on March 18, 2008
"Aussies complain about Japanese whaling, but they kill dingoes & kangaroos. Therefore, they are hypocrites, and probably racist, amirite?"
That really reeks of bloggish axe-grinding, and isn't a particularly well thought-out argument.
For a start, native animals are typically culled because they threaten crops and / or livestock (in the kangaroos' case, by competing for scarce food). The closest analogy in the sea would be if schools of sharks were seriously harming fishers' interests by eating all the fish, or if some kind of well-adapted & tasty fish were crowding out all the others, whereby you'd catch the tasty fish & eat them instead.
There are probably all kinds of interesting & informative posts one could make about the eco-politics of culling animals, but they wouldn't have anything at all to do with whaling, and playing the racist hypocrisy card on top of a spurious comparison between whales & Australian native animals didn't help much.
posted by UbuRoivas at 4:52 PM on March 18, 2008
*Shakes head in disgust* You really just don't get it do you? You really don't.
*beams message back at sender*
posted by languagehat at 5:02 PM on March 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
*beams message back at sender*
posted by languagehat at 5:02 PM on March 18, 2008 [1 favorite]
DirtyCreature,
Is this performance art? You're accusing the mods of "not getting it"? Your post was terrible. Posts aren't supposed to be written as editorial rants. Yours were. "Enforcement of rigid social policy"? There's no way you could possibly be this obtuse. You're just crying because your terrible post got deleted. Just deal with it and move on.
posted by Sangermaine at 6:46 PM on March 18, 2008
Is this performance art? You're accusing the mods of "not getting it"? Your post was terrible. Posts aren't supposed to be written as editorial rants. Yours were. "Enforcement of rigid social policy"? There's no way you could possibly be this obtuse. You're just crying because your terrible post got deleted. Just deal with it and move on.
posted by Sangermaine at 6:46 PM on March 18, 2008
Actually, DirtyCreature's posting history is full of interesting & chatty "discussion point" type posts, most with a bit of editorialising and finishing up with "discuss!"
The whale post can be seen in a similar light; it just fell kinda flat, that's all.
The most I'd concede to the "racist!" argument is that Aussies might be a bit parochial about protecting "our" whales, because so many migrate along our coast, and the waters between here & Antarctica are probably generally thought to be ours more than anybody else's, since New Zealand & Tasmania don't exactly count as sovereign nations.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:54 PM on March 18, 2008
The whale post can be seen in a similar light; it just fell kinda flat, that's all.
The most I'd concede to the "racist!" argument is that Aussies might be a bit parochial about protecting "our" whales, because so many migrate along our coast, and the waters between here & Antarctica are probably generally thought to be ours more than anybody else's, since New Zealand & Tasmania don't exactly count as sovereign nations.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:54 PM on March 18, 2008
Nothing wrong with that. After all, New Zealanders aren't fully evolved human beings, so it's OK for me to call a spade a spade, so to speak.
posted by UbuRoivas at 8:44 PM on March 18, 2008
posted by UbuRoivas at 8:44 PM on March 18, 2008
The Easybeats were Aussies, and Friday On My Mind was a cool song.
That is all.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:12 AM on March 19, 2008
That is all.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:12 AM on March 19, 2008
Wait, that is not all. I must inform you that the above comment was meant for another thread.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:44 AM on March 19, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by flapjax at midnite at 6:44 AM on March 19, 2008 [1 favorite]
And yet it fit in perfectly well here. That says something about something, but I'm damned if I know what.
posted by languagehat at 7:11 AM on March 19, 2008
posted by languagehat at 7:11 AM on March 19, 2008
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