Metafilter goes outside September 16, 2009 8:57 AM Subscribe
FYI: Metafilter got a shout-out in the September print edition of Outside Magazine re: the NY Times Photoshoppery. Article is online as well.
"In July, The New York Times Magazine ran a portfolio of abandoned construction projects across the U.S. taken by Portuguese photographer Edgar Martins. When the Times posted them online, commenters on the community weblog MetaFilter jumped on apparent cloning and mirroring techniques, causing Times editors to quickly pull the images."(I would scan it but I read it in the dentist's office.)
Anyone care to link to the post in question?
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:01 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 9:01 AM on September 16, 2009
Anyone care to link to the dentists in question?
posted by milestogo at 9:02 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by milestogo at 9:02 AM on September 16, 2009
Hey! I was just reading that magazine on the bus this morning! I'll have to check out the article.
I only do dentistry as a hobby.
For the magazines.
posted by Floydd at 9:19 AM on September 16, 2009
I only do dentistry as a hobby.
For the magazines.
posted by Floydd at 9:19 AM on September 16, 2009
Huh. And I just posted to AskMe looking for a good dentist in Toronto moments before coming here. Extra weird.
posted by maudlin at 9:21 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by maudlin at 9:21 AM on September 16, 2009
I, too, have a dentist.
posted by lohmannn at 9:23 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by lohmannn at 9:23 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
I need a root canal but I have been putting it off.
posted by fixedgear at 9:25 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by fixedgear at 9:25 AM on September 16, 2009
OMG my cousin is a dental assistant! This is getting spooky and out of control. It's like that Nic Cage movie where he punches the bear. No wait, I mean the Nic Cage movie with the moose on fire. That's the one.
posted by otolith at 9:26 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by otolith at 9:26 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
My dentist is photoshopped.
posted by soundofsuburbia at 9:28 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by soundofsuburbia at 9:28 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
Do dental appointments within a week count in the weirdness? If so, then add my cleaning on Monday to the list.
He's one of these dentists who likes to tell a bunch of jokes while he's got a mirror and a scraper in your mouth. I'd love to laugh, but I don't wanna get my tongue pierced. In his website photo, he appears to be laughing while conspicuously displaying his super-white teeth. I bet that shot is shopped. I bet he HDRed the shit out of his teeth.
posted by EatTheWeek at 9:38 AM on September 16, 2009
He's one of these dentists who likes to tell a bunch of jokes while he's got a mirror and a scraper in your mouth. I'd love to laugh, but I don't wanna get my tongue pierced. In his website photo, he appears to be laughing while conspicuously displaying his super-white teeth. I bet that shot is shopped. I bet he HDRed the shit out of his teeth.
posted by EatTheWeek at 9:38 AM on September 16, 2009
I've always been a bit baffled by magazines in waiting rooms.
It's like, hey, uh, Doc? Yeah, um, I'm here to get well. Not really sure how spending an hour flipping through magazines that have been stiffened by eight years of sneeze can be much help in achieving that particular goal.
That said, Doc, I respect your entrepreneurial ingenuity. Keep 'em coming back for more!
posted by Sys Rq at 9:44 AM on September 16, 2009
It's like, hey, uh, Doc? Yeah, um, I'm here to get well. Not really sure how spending an hour flipping through magazines that have been stiffened by eight years of sneeze can be much help in achieving that particular goal.
That said, Doc, I respect your entrepreneurial ingenuity. Keep 'em coming back for more!
posted by Sys Rq at 9:44 AM on September 16, 2009
What is it, 2:30 on metafilter all day today?
posted by sleeping bear at 9:47 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by sleeping bear at 9:47 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
I have a dentist appointment tomorrow. I'll have a look for the magazine.
posted by ODiV at 10:11 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by ODiV at 10:11 AM on September 16, 2009
Today I used my teeth. Woah.
posted by GuyZero at 10:12 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by GuyZero at 10:12 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
Dentistry is basically photoshopping for teeth. Discuss.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:20 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:20 AM on September 16, 2009
Well, in the case of teeth-whitening, the processes aren't all that dissimilar (though the materials, of course, are quite different).
posted by ocherdraco at 10:34 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by ocherdraco at 10:34 AM on September 16, 2009
I think to get the requisite pleasing yet strangely disquieting symmetry, you really want to see an orthodontist.
posted by yarrow at 10:41 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by yarrow at 10:41 AM on September 16, 2009
Dentistry is basically photoshopping for teeth. Discuss.
Well, photoshopping seems a lot more like dentistry for photographs, actually. Fixing cosmetic defects, correcting white balance, that sort of thing. And especially the sitting in a chair, staring at a bright light for hours aspect of it.
posted by FishBike at 10:45 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
Well, photoshopping seems a lot more like dentistry for photographs, actually. Fixing cosmetic defects, correcting white balance, that sort of thing. And especially the sitting in a chair, staring at a bright light for hours aspect of it.
posted by FishBike at 10:45 AM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
Counter: Orthodontics is photoshopping for teeth. A creation of unreality that is nonetheless widely accepted.
posted by 1f2frfbf at 10:46 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by 1f2frfbf at 10:46 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
requisite pleasing yet strangely disquieting symmetry
Cloning and flipping and mirroring! Which ... uhm ... evokes the collective unconscious and includes ones own exclusion ... in your mouth ... and some stuff and art professor once wrote ... and things ...
posted by EatTheWeek at 10:49 AM on September 16, 2009
Cloning and flipping and mirroring! Which ... uhm ... evokes the collective unconscious and includes ones own exclusion ... in your mouth ... and some stuff and art professor once wrote ... and things ...
posted by EatTheWeek at 10:49 AM on September 16, 2009
I work in a dental school.
But today I am working from home.
I just like to buck the trends.
posted by Astro Zombie at 10:55 AM on September 16, 2009
But today I am working from home.
I just like to buck the trends.
posted by Astro Zombie at 10:55 AM on September 16, 2009
Well, I decided to take a picture of my teeth. They're not photoshopped at all. Please ignore the fact that I only have one nostril.
Yeah, I don't know why I am like this.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:08 AM on September 16, 2009 [4 favorites]
Yeah, I don't know why I am like this.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:08 AM on September 16, 2009 [4 favorites]
Yeah, and when they look at the x-rays it's just like deselecting layers in photoshop. Whoa, duuuude.
posted by Rhomboid at 11:08 AM on September 16, 2009
posted by Rhomboid at 11:08 AM on September 16, 2009
Well, I decided to take a picture of my teeth. They're not photoshopped at all. Please ignore the fact that I only have one nostril.
blech, now that image is imprinted on my eyelids. thanks you rodent-mouthed freak!
I kid, please don't gnaw me
posted by Think_Long at 11:48 AM on September 16, 2009
blech, now that image is imprinted on my eyelids. thanks you rodent-mouthed freak!
I kid, please don't gnaw me
posted by Think_Long at 11:48 AM on September 16, 2009
Please ignore the fact that I only have one nostril.
Yeah, I don't know why I am like this.
Holoprosencephaly? OH SHIT NO PLEASE DON'T KILL ME TOM CRUI
posted by anazgnos at 11:55 AM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
I once met with a dentist and his assistant, after a root-canal, we were standing outside and talking about magazines in front of a photo shop in Toronto.
And the fact that none of this is true, like Edgar Martins' work, completes the cycle of meta.
~fin~
posted by quin at 11:58 AM on September 16, 2009
And the fact that none of this is true, like Edgar Martins' work, completes the cycle of meta.
~fin~
posted by quin at 11:58 AM on September 16, 2009
Please take your dental derail to MeTa. Oh.. wait.
posted by infinitefloatingbrains at 12:05 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by infinitefloatingbrains at 12:05 PM on September 16, 2009
I know at least three MeFites who have dental appointments today. So weird. Thanks for the link.
posted by jessamyn
I had a dentist's appointment last Friday, but I didn't inform jessamyn about it. Is that some kind of faux pas?
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 12:30 PM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by jessamyn
I had a dentist's appointment last Friday, but I didn't inform jessamyn about it. Is that some kind of faux pas?
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 12:30 PM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
The Outside article was written by Rob Haggart who runs aPhotoEditor.com.
He states in the magazine:
Commenters immediately blasted Freeman, claiming he'd betrayed the sport by ginning up a photo that supposedly captures an authentic athletic achievement.
That was me with this first comment on the APE post:
Ah the surf shot is a composite? So. Lame.
There’s an unspoken requirement for action sports shots to be genuine since so much of the photo is about the moment, the human achievement that is so incredible and striking. Anyone can photoshop a person to be that much higher in the air. Thumbs down.
It was a pretty harsh derail, but I stand by that conviction and the other things I said in that thread. There is a huge difference between a photo and a photoillustration. The NYT seems to agree but its a still a bit vague since fashion and portraits can still be called 'photos.'
I definitely agree with the Outside article - photographs of action sports are mostly about the moment. And Rob would know, he was the photo editor of Outside for over 5 years. In fact he is probably the most qualified person to make a statement like that.
As an aside, Rob has a great site and is a stand up guy. He always tells it like it is and doesn't take shit from anyone (see the comments on this post). He also makes portfolios for photographers, and I wholeheartedly recommend his service to all the photographers + stylists I know. Having extensively used both, I can say for certain that it is 100 times better than Livebooks (my wife uses APF and my agency uses LB).
posted by infinitefloatingbrains at 12:51 PM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
He states in the magazine:
Commenters immediately blasted Freeman, claiming he'd betrayed the sport by ginning up a photo that supposedly captures an authentic athletic achievement.
That was me with this first comment on the APE post:
Ah the surf shot is a composite? So. Lame.
There’s an unspoken requirement for action sports shots to be genuine since so much of the photo is about the moment, the human achievement that is so incredible and striking. Anyone can photoshop a person to be that much higher in the air. Thumbs down.
It was a pretty harsh derail, but I stand by that conviction and the other things I said in that thread. There is a huge difference between a photo and a photoillustration. The NYT seems to agree but its a still a bit vague since fashion and portraits can still be called 'photos.'
I definitely agree with the Outside article - photographs of action sports are mostly about the moment. And Rob would know, he was the photo editor of Outside for over 5 years. In fact he is probably the most qualified person to make a statement like that.
As an aside, Rob has a great site and is a stand up guy. He always tells it like it is and doesn't take shit from anyone (see the comments on this post). He also makes portfolios for photographers, and I wholeheartedly recommend his service to all the photographers + stylists I know. Having extensively used both, I can say for certain that it is 100 times better than Livebooks (my wife uses APF and my agency uses LB).
posted by infinitefloatingbrains at 12:51 PM on September 16, 2009 [2 favorites]
I once tried to get a subscription to Outside with my unused frequent flier miles. I got Wine Spectator too for the hell of it. Except I didn't get Outside, I got Outdoor Life. Opps. I never read Wine Spectator, but I found myself intrigued by the articles about hunting and fishing -something I myself don't really care for. And when the two disparate periodicals arrived on my doorstep on the same day, I chuckled at what my postman must think of my tastes.
posted by yeti at 12:55 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by yeti at 12:55 PM on September 16, 2009
I used my teeth to bite someone today. What a coincidence!
posted by little e at 1:00 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by little e at 1:00 PM on September 16, 2009
DevilsAdvocate:
I had a dentist's appointment last Friday, but I didn't inform jessamyn about it. Is that some kind of faux pas?
A library is like the waiting room at the dentist's, except there are more Patricia Cornwell novels. Discuss.
posted by shakespeherian at 1:46 PM on September 16, 2009
I had a dentist's appointment last Friday, but I didn't inform jessamyn about it. Is that some kind of faux pas?
A library is like the waiting room at the dentist's, except there are more Patricia Cornwell novels. Discuss.
posted by shakespeherian at 1:46 PM on September 16, 2009
Knosh and Tell just so happens to be my new rap group.
posted by P.o.B. at 2:15 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by P.o.B. at 2:15 PM on September 16, 2009
I need to make an appointment to go see my dentist. I hope this magazine article is still there by the time I go see her.
posted by gingerbeer at 2:55 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by gingerbeer at 2:55 PM on September 16, 2009
I mysteriously received a subscription to this magazine a couple of months ago, without any apparent reason or explanation. I think it might be some way for them to boost their circulation figures or something.
posted by exogenous at 3:03 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by exogenous at 3:03 PM on September 16, 2009
You are Jewish on the wrong side. It shows in your spelling.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:43 PM on September 16, 2009
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:43 PM on September 16, 2009
The K makes my rap group more hip. I'm keeping it.
posted by P.o.B. at 7:22 PM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by P.o.B. at 7:22 PM on September 16, 2009 [1 favorite]
Well, somebody needs to stick their dick in these here mashed taters...
posted by P.o.B. at 5:28 AM on September 17, 2009
posted by P.o.B. at 5:28 AM on September 17, 2009
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posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:01 AM on September 16, 2009