Locked Out... ... and erased from the Internet! January 3, 2012 9:51 AM   Subscribe

I asked a question and nobody answered. I asked again, then jessamyn deleted my question. Do I have the right to ask a third time?

The question was: if you are locked out of Facebook, how do you get back in? The answer is, scan in your government-issued ID and email the image to them.

I think it is very important for the users of Metafilter, indeed the users of the entire Internet, to know that this is the answer to the question. So, deleting the question from AskMeFi seems like censorship. Please explain?

If a question leads to discussion and debates, why is that a bad thing?

=== === ===

You were asked to confirm who you are because our security systems thought you may not be using your real identity with this account or that you may have multiple accounts. If you’ve already tried to log in at www.facebook.com and followed the instructions to confirm your identity, but weren’t able to complete the process, we’ll need to see other proof of your identity.

Here’s how to proceed:

1. Use a scanner or take a digital photo of a government-issued photo ID (such as a driver’s license or passport), which shows your full first and last name and date of birth.
2. Reply directly to this email and attach the image of your ID to the message.
3. We will confirm that your ID and account information match. As soon as we verify your identity we’ll delete the image of your ID.
posted by shipbreaker to MetaFilter-Related at 9:51 AM (217 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

Did you not get the email I sent you back to your email to us? I said that if you want to re-ask the question, it's totally 100% fine but people will think it's sort of weird if you don't basically mention that you asked an identical question a week earlier. People were flagging your question as a double and it wasn't clear if you'd taken any steps since you'd asked the question (with almost no answers) a week earlier. I offered to edit and re-open your question again and I did not hear from you.

And no, MeTa is not where you re-ask questions that were deleted from AskMe. Please contact us if you are having problems with how the site works.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:54 AM on January 3, 2012 [6 favorites]


Generally isn't AskMe is for getting answers to your question? If you already know the answer to your question, why are you asking it? Diseminating information that people "should know" is only a secondary function and not a reason to ask a question.
posted by Jahaza at 9:56 AM on January 3, 2012 [9 favorites]


I think it is very important for the users of Metafilter, indeed the users of the entire Internet, to know that this is the answer to the question.



....Wow.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 9:56 AM on January 3, 2012 [41 favorites]


However, if you've discovered the answer to your previous question, YOU can post the info there, which will disseminate it to the internet if that is important to you. You can then even mark your comment as the best answer.
posted by Jahaza at 9:58 AM on January 3, 2012 [35 favorites]


I learned the answer after the question was asked, did not know before today. But the reason for deleting the question from AskMeFi is still disturbing to me. Why?
posted by shipbreaker at 9:59 AM on January 3, 2012


Well, if people have this problem they will find it via Facebook, so I don't think the redundant post on AskMe will really serve the internet populace-at-large.

Come to think about it, anything that keeps people from logging on to Facebook is actually a good thing, so this was a good deletion.
posted by Burhanistan at 9:59 AM on January 3, 2012 [7 favorites]


But the reason for deleting the question from AskMeFi is still disturbing to me. Why?

Jessamyn's already tried to answer you on this a couple times now. If you need to re-ask a question you've already asked, it's important to at least make it clear what has happened since the last time you asked and why you're asking again—just flat out reposting without comment to "bump" it isn't really how we expect folks to use askme and tends to make people think something is up.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:02 AM on January 3, 2012


But the reason for deleting the question from AskMeFi is still disturbing to me. Why?

The previous AskMe is still open. So you can just post the answer there, no? So your new question is a double.
posted by Jahaza at 10:02 AM on January 3, 2012 [11 favorites]


I think it is very important for the users of Metafilter, indeed the users of the entire Internet, to know that this is the answer to the question.

I think it is very important for everyone on the internet to know Garak's backstory from before he was a "simple tailor"* on Deep Space Nine, but metafilter is a lot of different things to a lot of different people. You can add the answer to your original question here, and if someone's interests are the same as yours, they can find it through searching.

*NOTE: HE'S REALLY NOT SO SIMPLE, HE'S ACTUALLY VERY SNEAKY AND RAW AS HELL
posted by Greg Nog at 10:03 AM on January 3, 2012 [76 favorites]


I learned the answer after the question was asked, did not know before today. But the reason for deleting the question from AskMeFi is still disturbing to me. Why?

Because its identical to your previous question? And that question is still open, you can put the answer in there if you are concerned about it being used for future reference.
posted by Think_Long at 10:04 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


....Wow.

Maybe give the mods just a minute to kind of answer the question before we start in with this stuff?
posted by mintcake! at 10:05 AM on January 3, 2012 [14 favorites]


Maybe it's finally time to talk seriously about having a subsite for important things that the entire Internet needs to know.
posted by Wolfdog at 10:05 AM on January 3, 2012 [15 favorites]


If a question leads to discussion and debates, why is that a bad thing?

Discussion and debate is explicitly not what AskMe is for. It is for answering questions and solving problems.
posted by Gator at 10:06 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


....Wow.

Yeah, that's very not helpful.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:06 AM on January 3, 2012 [9 favorites]


Deep Space Nine sounds like a bad porn movie.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 10:06 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Brandon Blatcher: "Deep Space Nine sounds like a bad porn movie"

It IS a bad porn movie. There's no nudity whatsoever!!
posted by Grither at 10:09 AM on January 3, 2012 [87 favorites]


Sorry, Jessamyn (and sorry, Shipbreaker: I wasn't sure whether your "it's the most important thing anyone on the internet needs to know" thing may have been sincere, or you were just exaggerating for comedic effect, as has just now occurred to me.)
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:10 AM on January 3, 2012


I thought Jessamyn gave you your five dollars back last time you whined about an ask deletion.
posted by nomisxid at 10:13 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


I think it is very important for the users of Metafilter, indeed the users of the entire Internet, to know that this is the answer to the question. So, deleting the question from AskMeFi seems like censorship. Please explain?

This seems like something that is of particular importance to users of Facebook.

Users of the internet can search for "locked out of Facebook" on any search engine and find this information pretty readily within just the first page of over 40,000,000 results of news articles, Facebook updates, blog posts, and Facebook pages referencing this topic. So I think the internet will be okay. But as noted above, you can post the answer to your own question and mark it resolved, and this will also benefit the internet.

This isn't censorship. This information isn't being suppressed. See above.
posted by desuetude at 10:16 AM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


I learned the answer after the question was asked, did not know before today.

What Greg Nog says. You can even mark your own answer as "best answer".
And indeed, Ask isn't for discussing but for quality answers, in order to help the asker in the first place, and anybody who happens to walk past in the second. The entire internet isn't going to look at the correct answer no matter what.

We should anyway be more worried about all the instances where we become eternalized on the internet without even knowing about it... stupid facebook... mutter...
posted by Namlit at 10:18 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I think it is very important for the users of Metafilter, indeed the users of the entire Internet, to know that this is the answer to the question.

Do you understand that AskMe is not for asking questions that you already know the answer to, and which you have decided is incredibly important and needs to be broadcast to the community? If not, I would suggest you try very hard to understand that in future.
posted by Decani at 10:19 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Maybe give the mods just a minute to kind of answer the question before we start in with this stuff? --- So, you're saying that now that the mods have answered, it's perfectly ok to let loose all the dogs of war now?
posted by crunchland at 10:20 AM on January 3, 2012


woof
posted by Namlit at 10:21 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]




posted by Greg Nog at 11:03 AM on January 3

oh yay greg nog is back!
posted by peachfuzz at 10:23 AM on January 3, 2012 [11 favorites]


I get it --- you cannot just "ask again" to get fresh answers from a new audience of AskMeFi readers.

I get it --- the second question got derailed because the first question was still open, and all the discussion was about that instead of the answer to the question.

That is why I have come here to MetaTalk to ask --- will I be allowed to ask my Facebook question a third time, without having it deleted by MetaFilter mods?

=== === ===

And no, I have not yet gotten my five dollars back.

I would like to stay, I love MetaFilter!!
posted by shipbreaker at 10:23 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


will I be allowed to ask my Facebook question a third time, without having it deleted by MetaFilter mods?

If I am understanding you correctly, you now have the answer to the question, correct? If so, then no you can't ask a third time and I don't understand why you WOULD ask a third time. Questions need to have a goal or a problem to be solved and that has to be something other than "How can I provide a place to give an answer to a question I had before?"

I am sorry I am having a difficult time understanding you, but could you explain why you want to ask a third time if you already have the answer? Or am I misunderstanding you?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:26 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


will I be allowed to ask my Facebook question a third time, without having it deleted by MetaFilter mods?

I'm not a mod but I think it's a safe bet that the answer to this would be no, especially because you'd be asking a question you've already asked, is already open, and which you already know the answer to.

I can't really speak to whether or not the information about how to unlock your account is Important Information, but I do know that the act of asking a question just to have the answer written down somewhere for other people to read, when you already know the answer to it, doesn't seem to be what the Ask part of the site is for.
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 10:28 AM on January 3, 2012


That is why I have come here to MetaTalk to ask --- will I be allowed to ask my Facebook question a third time, without having it deleted by MetaFilter mods?

Probably not - you already know the answer and if you'd just post it in your original question and mark that comment as "best answer" as others have suggested, all will be right with the world. If you already know the answer and can contribute it, what's the possible benefit of asking it again?

For instance, one of my questions got nearly no helpful responses, but I eventually figured out what to do and posted the best answer for myself and for the benefit of future people looking for similar information. A while later, someone even memailed me asking for more info about what I did, so the system worked.
posted by LionIndex at 10:29 AM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


If you post the answer in the original (first) question, then everyone will be able to find it. AskMe has pretty good Google rank.
posted by bluefly at 10:30 AM on January 3, 2012


If I ask another question, related to the same topic (getting back into Facebook), giving full written explanations of what has transpired, what my question is, and what my goal is, in the hopes that an Ask MetaFilter user can read the question and possibly help me find an answer to it, are you going to delete it, because it "doesn't follow the rules of AskMeFi" and has already gone around a few times and has made it this far into MetaTalk?

I will take my chances, and hope that you don't delete the question again.
posted by shipbreaker at 10:30 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I would like to subscribe to the Garak newsletter?
posted by Kwine at 10:30 AM on January 3, 2012 [10 favorites]


will I be allowed to ask my Facebook question a third time

Trying to explain here: the first question being still open means that people can find and read it. So it is still fully functional, even within limits for the use that you envision for it, informing the accumulated www of the correct answer. Now post it there, go ahead. Doesn't cost extra.
posted by Namlit at 10:31 AM on January 3, 2012


are you going to delete it, because it "doesn't follow the rules of AskMeFi" and has already gone around a few times and has made it this far into MetaTalk?

If it's a different question that has not been already answered and that you don't know the answer to then no we probably won't delete it, but I'm getting the feeling that you are having a difficult time understanding how this place works. I'd suggest that you get in touch with us via the contact form if you want to go over your question specifically. We will be more than happy to talk to you about it.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:32 AM on January 3, 2012


I will take my chances, and hope that you don't delete the question again.

Are you asking literally the same question, or is there some other question that the answer you've found is not the answer to? This is a really important distinction that you have not clearly made so far. Can you please clarify this?
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:32 AM on January 3, 2012


I believe I was promised that the third time would "be the charm" and I am troubled by the renegotiating that is going on.

Promised, I remind you.
posted by Admiral Haddock at 10:33 AM on January 3, 2012 [26 favorites]


Let me see if I have this straight.

1. You asked a question.
2. You found the answer to your question on your own.
3. You tried to ask your question again for some reason.
4. Someone spotted it as a duplicate and the question was deleted.
5. You don't understand this.
6. You now want to ask your question a third time.
7. Everyone here but you can correctly guess what will happen if you do this.

If the answer you found to your question is important, post it in the thread that's still open.
posted by emelenjr at 10:34 AM on January 3, 2012 [14 favorites]


Dear Lord.
posted by unSane at 10:35 AM on January 3, 2012


If a question leads to discussion and debates, why is that a bad thing?

I'm curious what sort of discussion and debates you may be expecting? It seems like there is a clear cut answer to your question.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:38 AM on January 3, 2012


Dude, all you have to do is the following:

(1) Go to your original question, which is still open.

(2) Copy the following text, then paste it in the answer box.

Hey! I figured out the correct answer. Here's what FB says you need to do:

You were asked to confirm who you are because our security systems thought you may not be using your real identity with this account or that you may have multiple accounts. If you’ve already tried to log in at www.facebook.com and followed the instructions to confirm your identity, but weren’t able to complete the process, we’ll need to see other proof of your identity.

Here’s how to proceed:

1. Use a scanner or take a digital photo of a government-issued photo ID (such as a driver’s license or passport), which shows your full first and last name and date of birth.
2. Reply directly to this email and attach the image of your ID to the message.
3. We will confirm that your ID and account information match. As soon as we verify your identity we’ll delete the image of your ID.


(3) Hit "Post Answer."

(4) Mark that post as "Best Answer."

This will do exactly what you want to do - provide the correct answer to future askers who are looking for it, in the correct location - i.e., your original question.
posted by googly at 10:38 AM on January 3, 2012 [17 favorites]


Hang on everyone -- I think it's more like this:

1. Shipbreaker asked a question.
2. Shipbreaker found the answer to your question on their own.
3. Shipbreaker tried to ask a RELATED question, but failed to make the "new data" part of the question clear.
4. Someone flagged it as a duplicate and the question was deleted.
5. Shipbreaker didn't understand the reason for the deletion.
6. Shipbreaker posted this MeTa and Jessamyn clarified the deletion.
7. Shipbreaker clarified that the question was about new data and was related to the firstr question.

Shipbreaker, if I have that right, then:

1. You could ask your new question as a follow-up comment within your ORIGINAL question, and can also update your original question with a comment; or

2. As a new question, but CLEARLY indicate that it is a new question, emphasizing the new and different material.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:38 AM on January 3, 2012


...related to the same topic (getting back into Facebook), giving full written explanations of what has transpired, what my question is, and what my goal is, in the hopes that an Ask MetaFilter user can read the question and possibly help me find an answer to it...

So your original question apparently shot short, and the correct answer you're citing here above doesn't really help you? Is that it??
Well. If you're going about it really smartly, like: use the edit window and preview before hitting post and think about it for a while, I'm sure that you can go to that original thread, post a re-phrased, more precise version of your original question, one that is more likely to help you in the end, and see who answers what. I guess it needs to be really very visibly a more precise version of what you originally asked (as opposed to a totally new "I also have this problem with facebook" question).

It's like in these fix-my-car threads. A lot of times, the first batch of answers helps the original poster to re-think their question, and then you often get a "nope, i tried this; when I press here it sounds like that; now it said boom; Yup, that was the solution" - type of exchange, where the original angle can totally change, depending on the problem at hand.
posted by Namlit at 10:39 AM on January 3, 2012


emelenjr, the order is 1,3,4,5,2,6 , and the big problem I have is that 7 keeps happening to me. And I wish to discuss that, here, in MetaTalk. The question I will ask a third time if I am allowed to do step 6 will probably be very similar to the first question, but more specific and with more details.
posted by shipbreaker at 10:42 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


But don't you already know the answer to your question?
posted by LobsterMitten at 10:43 AM on January 3, 2012


Not yet! How do I get back in to my Facebook account?
posted by shipbreaker at 10:44 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


The question I will ask a third time if I am allowed to do step 6 will probably be very similar to the first question, but more specific and with more details.

I guess what I'm not getting here is: There may be more details, but will the specific question be the same? More to the point, will it be the question that you've already posted the answer to in this thread?
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 10:44 AM on January 3, 2012


If that's the case, Shipbreaker, you can just leave a comment in your original question. I've done that myself, when my original question ended up getting more complicated even further.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:45 AM on January 3, 2012


shipbreaker, it looks like (at the top of this Metatalk post) you already know the answer:
"The answer is, scan in your government-issued ID and email the image to them."
posted by LobsterMitten at 10:46 AM on January 3, 2012


Shipbreaker, it would be helpful if you could explain why exactly googly's comment above doesn't fix everything.
posted by Wretch729 at 10:46 AM on January 3, 2012


....are you asking for information on how to scan your id and send it to facebook? or are you engaged in a wild orgy of trolling?
posted by elizardbits at 10:46 AM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


shipbreaker, if you've already been in contact with FB regarding your account, followed their instructions to scan your gov't issued ID and send it to them, and still have not been let back into your account, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that nobody on MetaFilter has a good answer to the current state of your dilemma.

No, wait! —

Try Diaspora.
posted by carsonb at 10:48 AM on January 3, 2012


Guys, Shipbreaker cracked a joke in hir AskMe about Facebook rejecting that photo ID scan.

So, Shipbreaker, it sounds like your question is NOT "how do I get into Facebook" but rather "how do I contact a human being at Facebook to resolve this."

I would still add it as a comment within your original thread, though.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:48 AM on January 3, 2012


nobody on MetaFilter has a good answer to the current state of your dilemma....

...and therefore Asking MetaFilter further is pointless.
posted by carsonb at 10:49 AM on January 3, 2012


*NOTE: HE'S REALLY NOT SO SIMPLE, HE'S ACTUALLY VERY SNEAKY AND RAW AS HELL

Would a spoiler warning kill you? I'm still living in 1992.

I can't believe Silence Of The Lambs swept the Oscars. What were they thinking?
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:49 AM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


Actually, it seems like what shipbreaker is listing in this post as the "answer" didn't actually work, so shipbreaker is looking for additional help beyond what Facebook said to do. Correct? So, the solution as listed here doesn't actually do anything, and more help is needed.
posted by LionIndex at 10:50 AM on January 3, 2012


You should get your $5 back.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 10:50 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Also also, if this thread gets closed before it's natural expiry date and a longboat is not allowed to row to the end, it will be the saddest eponysterical MetaTalk thread ever.
posted by carsonb at 10:50 AM on January 3, 2012


Oh! Thank you LionIndex.

So then seconding what EmpressCallipygos said.
posted by Wretch729 at 10:56 AM on January 3, 2012


Wretch, you linked to your own comment there....
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:59 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


this thread is making everyone drunk.
posted by elizardbits at 11:01 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Actually, it seems like what shipbreaker is listing in this post as the "answer" didn't actually work, so shipbreaker is looking for additional help beyond what Facebook said to do. Correct? So, the solution as listed here doesn't actually do anything, and more help is needed.

Right. In which case asking the same question will not likely help, but asking a different, follow-up style question ("I've sent my scanned ID to Facebook as suggested here [link to previous question], but they've not responded/been difficult/told me I'm stuffed. What is my next option?") might do wonders.

Without more information about the specific problems shipbreaker is having with the admins of Facebook, no one is likely to be able to help, though.
posted by Rock Steady at 11:01 AM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


arglblargleblarg
posted by Wretch729 at 11:05 AM on January 3, 2012


It's really very simple...
posted by Meatbomb at 11:06 AM on January 3, 2012 [4 favorites]


I would still add it as a comment within your original thread, though.

Yeah, but I think at this point asking the question a third time should be able to fly as long as shipbreaker is careful to mention the previous question and the solution provided by Facebook that didn't do anything in an effort to get more information. By now, the original question is waaaaay off the front page of AskMe, which, perhaps sadly, means that no one is ever going to see it and be able to provide more information on it unless they've been following the question from the start (which seems highly unlikely). I'm not a mod, so it's not my call, but a new question framed in a way that acknowledges the previous question and the insufficient response from Facebook should probably stand. I think the core problem here is that enough time has passed since the original question that no one's going to stumble upon it to be able to provide more info.
posted by LionIndex at 11:14 AM on January 3, 2012


Oh Discordia....
posted by RolandOfEld at 11:19 AM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


I think when Facebook locks you out you should think of that as a mitzvah.
posted by 2bucksplus at 11:20 AM on January 3, 2012 [20 favorites]


Facebook still carries on the charade of real names? Half of my "friends" have flagrantly fake names.
posted by telstar at 11:32 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Shipbreaker, it is also worth mentioning that even if LionIndex is right and you do end up reposting the question to AskMe, it's possible you won't get very many good answers simply because Facebook's customer service is notoriously bad and prone to catch-22 situations like this. A Google search turns up a lot of people with the same problem you have and not a lot of solutions beyond "email Facebook and hope for the best."

Your best bet might be that some Facebook employee is surfing MetaFilter and happens to see this thread.
posted by Wretch729 at 11:33 AM on January 3, 2012


How the heck are they gonna see it if it keeps getting deleted!?
posted by carsonb at 11:37 AM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


Yep, Jessamyn offered to edit the one posted today to do what you describe LionIndex. Just so everyone reading this knows, if you post a question that's deleted, you can use the contact form to find out why, of course, if it's not clear from the deletion reason, but also, we can edit the question to meet the guidelines with your input, if possible. However, it needs to happen within the first hour or so, because when it's restored with the edits, it stays in its same page position as when it was first posted.

So as an example, let's say someone posts: "What was your favorite cartoon as a child?" and it's deleted as chatfilter. Then the poster contacts us right away and says, "oh, hey, I wanted to know because I'm trying to introduce my child to the best cartoons from each decade as a sort of fun little project; can I ask 'What are considered outstanding children's cartoons for each decade beginning from 1950 to present'?" We can make the change and reinstate it. But if it's a couple hours later or more, it's probably not going to be as useful because it's fallen too far down, and it's better to wait and post again.
posted by taz (staff) at 11:37 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


- ditch your current attempts and Facebook account

- sign up a new gmail account

- open a new facebook account

- come to accept everything is transitory
posted by edgeways at 11:38 AM on January 3, 2012 [5 favorites]


Mysterious past as a possible government secret agent, won't describe it? Shepherd Book == Garak.

Also I am detecting a strong anti-Facebook bias here.
I'm 100% okay with that.
posted by zomg at 11:40 AM on January 3, 2012


I really don't understand what Shipbreaker wants to have happen here.
posted by empath at 11:49 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I think it has something to do with googlebombing Santorum, but then again, what doesn't?
posted by Burhanistan at 11:50 AM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I really don't understand what Shipbreaker wants to have happen here.

Get Facebook to respond to hir request to unlock hir account. (The suggested "send them a scan of your photo id" didn't work.)
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 11:51 AM on January 3, 2012


I think it is very important for everyone on the internet to know Garak's backstory from before he was a "simple tailor"* on Deep Space Nine, but metafilter is a lot of different things to a lot of different people. You can add the answer to your original question here, and if someone's interests are the same as yours, they can find it through searching.

*NOTE: HE'S REALLY NOT SO SIMPLE, HE'S ACTUALLY VERY SNEAKY AND RAW AS HELL


I think it's very important for the internet to know that Garak is omnisexual and when Cardassians yell at each other they're actually flirting which means that his relationship with Odo is slashier than his relationship with Bashir.

Which is why I am commenting on this here metatalks.
posted by PhoBWanKenobi at 11:54 AM on January 3, 2012 [18 favorites]


I really don't understand what Shipbreaker wants to have happen here.

Hey, keep us updated as further events warrant. TIA.
posted by carsonb at 11:57 AM on January 3, 2012


EmpressCallipygos: "hir request to unlock hir account."

Is this a thing? "hir"? As in, combining "him" and "her"? Because if it is, I would like to formally object. Where do I send my strongly worded letter?
posted by Grither at 12:07 PM on January 3, 2012 [18 favorites]


Is this where I post my Garak-related question that I didn't get an answer for (because I didn't ask it early enough and ran out of time)?
posted by avocet at 12:10 PM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


(maybe I'll make him a DS9-themed new year's card.)
posted by avocet at 12:12 PM on January 3, 2012


Is this a thing? "hir"? As in, combining "him" and "her"?

*shrug* I've seen it about, yes...

When it comes to where to send the complaint, I'd suggest asking in this FPP, although they're still in the middle of the "why is it spelled 'Worcester' but pronounced 'wooster'" debate.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 12:12 PM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


Where do I send my strongly worded letter?

To hir address, of course.
posted by Forktine at 12:12 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Pony request: Metatalk posts that include the word "censorship" should be immediately and automatically censored.
posted by mkultra at 12:14 PM on January 3, 2012 [4 favorites]




EmpressCallipygos: "I'd suggest asking in this FPP,"

Whoever wrote that poem in that link? I'd like to kick hir in the nits.
posted by Grither at 12:21 PM on January 3, 2012 [10 favorites]


Hir not only here. Yes it's a thing and has been for longhir than I remembhir.
posted by Namlit at 12:21 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


This is as good a place as any to mention that Garak/Bashir slash fic exists.
posted by desjardins at 12:27 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


I first run across "hir" in the short story "With The Bentfin Boomer Boys In Little Old New Alabama" by Richard Lupoff, as a pronoun used to describe an alien parasite (of no specific gender of course).

However I have seen it used as a pronoun for people who are transitioning or are of ambiguous gender. So don't complain too forcefully, please ;)
posted by zomg at 12:29 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


ze
posted by Burhanistan at 12:30 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Oh wow I lost some time hitting Memory Alpha to refresh my Cardassian knowledge. Shedding skin scales would make romance difficult, no?
posted by The Whelk at 12:50 PM on January 3, 2012


That statement perfectly encapsulates my night Friday last.
posted by maryr at 12:52 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


2012 is really going to be the end of it all, isn't it?
posted by cashman at 12:53 PM on January 3, 2012


Only if we're lucky.
posted by trunk muffins at 12:54 PM on January 3, 2012


I watched that interview that Bashir did with Michael Jackson again the other day, and, you know, I think it might've been a little bit manipulative.
posted by box at 12:54 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Grither: "EmpressCallipygos: "I'd suggest asking in this FPP,"

Whoever wrote that poem in that link? I'd like to kick hir in the nits.
"

And sorry, I actually rather enjoyed the poem and link, but I couldn't resist the "kick hir in the nits" thing...
posted by Grither at 12:55 PM on January 3, 2012


"the order is 1,3,4,5,2,6 , and the big problem I have is that 7 keeps happening to me."

Hands down the best, funniest response I've heard all year. I must find a way to use a variant of this somewhere brilliantly apt.
posted by iamkimiam at 1:01 PM on January 3, 2012 [8 favorites]


We should instead use a proper gender and species-neutral pronoun: "he or she/it". Abbreviated "h'orsh'it".
posted by Curious Artificer at 1:02 PM on January 3, 2012 [14 favorites]


Oh wow I lost some time hitting Memory Alpha to refresh my Cardassian knowledge. Shedding skin scales would make romance difficult, no??

Well, Kim Kardashian did recently reveal she has psoriasis. Perhaps that is what ruined her sham made-for-tv marriage?
posted by birdherder at 1:02 PM on January 3, 2012


Stop that.
posted by Burhanistan at 1:03 PM on January 3, 2012


I also love that there are 2 sets of numbers. Communication breakdown breakdown breakdown BREAKDANCE!
posted by iamkimiam at 1:04 PM on January 3, 2012


how do i get this fish out of my pants?
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 1:14 PM on January 3, 2012 [7 favorites]


I strongly suggest that Shipbreaker vote for Ron Paul.
posted by unSane at 1:16 PM on January 3, 2012


Do you think if Ron Paul is easily Googlable, then he doesn't belong in AskMetafilter?
posted by box at 1:21 PM on January 3, 2012


I strongly suggest that Shipbreaker vote for Ron Paul.

Really? I was thinking more Lyndon Larouche.
posted by The Michael The at 1:21 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I would like a Greasemonkey script to put a little symbol next to the usernames of people who have commented on their own AskMe questions, but have never commented on anybody else's.

I'm not sure what the little symbol should be. I mean, yeah, a cutesy animal, but which one?
posted by box at 1:29 PM on January 3, 2012


Pony request: Any time the word "censorship" is typed into MetaFilter, you get a pop-up that reads, "Are you actually talking about censorship -- real censorship -- performed by a illegally paternalistic or governmental authority? Or are you talking about the denial of use of a private resource performed by its rightful owner? Or do you not understand the difference (link to Wikipedia)?"
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 1:31 PM on January 3, 2012 [28 favorites]


box, is that the case here? I didn't scroll through all of her questions. Most of them though. Oof.
posted by futz at 1:33 PM on January 3, 2012


You just have to go through their answers (which I just did). Sure enough.
posted by carsonb at 1:38 PM on January 3, 2012




"the order is 1,3,4,5,2,6 , and the big problem I have is that 7 keeps happening to me."

Hands down the best, funniest response I've heard all year. I must find a way to use a variant of this somewhere brilliantly apt.


And all I was thinking was that 7 was a pretty good thing to be stuck on.
posted by ApathyGirl at 1:40 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


No, it's not. In retrospect, this might not have been the best time to bring up that particular deranged Greasemonkey request.

Cavemen!
posted by box at 1:42 PM on January 3, 2012


Can't you see that the problem is with the entire culture of MetaFilter?
posted by Hoopo at 1:44 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


So... the one exception is a self-link to something that no longer exists? My bad!
posted by carsonb at 1:45 PM on January 3, 2012


There's at least one other exception, and it makes me want an exhaustive list of consonant-plus-ollywoods.
posted by box at 1:52 PM on January 3, 2012


Or a bunch of funny made-up ones, alternately.
posted by box at 1:52 PM on January 3, 2012


"how do i get this fish out of my pants?

Try this.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 1:53 PM on January 3, 2012 [5 favorites]


Doh! How can I have missed such helpfulness? I hide my face in shame.
posted by carsonb at 1:53 PM on January 3, 2012


Cool Papa Bell: Pony request: Any time the word "censorship" is typed into MetaFilter, you get a pop-up that reads...

Living in a generally uncensored, free society tends to warp meanings of censorship and freedom, the same way living in Kansas warps the sense of topography. Minor hills become mountains, until you travel and see the Sierra Nevada range.
posted by filthy light thief at 1:53 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


It's a multistage process. The good news is that you're halfway there. The bad news is that this is when things get complicated.

Stage 1: Ask a question. Do not receive a response.

Stage 2: Ask the same question again. Wait for Jessamyn to delete the question.

Stage 3: On a quiet moonless night, sneak into the forest. Whisper your question into a tree hollow. Tell no one where you've been or what you've done.

Stage 4: Within 4-6 weeks, your answer will arrive in a dream, sung by a barbershop quartet. Or in a Morse code message from a leaky faucet. Or possibly in a fortune cookie. We can't be totally sure about these things. But it will come to you, so make sure you're paying attention.
posted by .kobayashi. at 1:55 PM on January 3, 2012 [13 favorites]


quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon:
how do i get this fish out of my pants?


mr_crash_davis: Try this.

A pocket fisherman? It seems there's an untapped market in making certain euphemisms into real products. Then we wait for the Japanese response to the 101 Unuseless Japanese Inventions book.
posted by filthy light thief at 1:59 PM on January 3, 2012


I've been dreaming of fortune cookies a lot recently. What could it all mean?
posted by mannequito at 2:06 PM on January 3, 2012


Where do I send my strongly worded letter?

facebook -duh
posted by edgeways at 2:09 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I meant answers. Been here since 2005 too. Well, I guess that the users of the entire Internet now know. Self censorship perhaps?
posted by futz at 2:10 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I'm not so sure that shaming users who otherwise don't know how to use the site properly into providing more answers for others' AskMe questions is the best idea at any rate.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:12 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Serious answer that might be missing from this thread: not all questions get answers in a timely fashion, if ever. And even though questions can be closed to new answers, someone might still find your question and send you an answer.

You ask once, hope you worded your question well enough that you get your question across clearly, and clarify anything in follow-up comments under that same question. If no one answers or you don't get the perfect answer while the question is still highly visible, you don't get to ask again later and "bump" your question.

MetaFilter has enough "Google juice" that questions on AskMeFi quickly rise to the top of many relevant searches, so your question will be seen by many people with similar questions, sometimes within minutes of your question being posted. Just because it has fallen from the first page of questions doesn't mean it's unseen.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:13 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


This thread leaves me feeling unfulfilled somehow.
posted by killdevil at 2:14 PM on January 3, 2012


You know what? That felt like I was being mean. I was. We all use the site differently. Weird call out though. Wait, was that mean too?
posted by futz at 2:14 PM on January 3, 2012


I'm not so sure that shaming users who otherwise don't know how to use the site properly into providing more answers for others' AskMe questions is the best idea at any rate.

That's rich, coming from you.
posted by futz at 2:15 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


I'd suggest that you get in touch with us via the contact form if you want to go over your question specifically. We will be more than happy to talk to you about it.

If anyone ever posts an AskMe seeking an illustration for the expression 'patience of a saint', I suggest that the asker be directed to this thread.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:18 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


> That's rich, coming from you.

Who are you again?
posted by Burhanistan at 2:20 PM on January 3, 2012


someone not as famous as you I guess. You've posted a bajilion things here man, people you don't know might read them too.
posted by Hoopo at 2:22 PM on January 3, 2012


are we going to have a fight now?
posted by edgeways at 2:24 PM on January 3, 2012


Burhanistan: Who are you again?

futz (fts)
intr.v. futzed, futz·ing, futz·es Slang
To waste time or effort on frivolities; fool.
posted by gman at 2:24 PM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


are we going to have a fight now?

I'm not, that came out a little harsher than anticipated.
posted by Hoopo at 2:27 PM on January 3, 2012


As that one guy sometimes reminds me, it might not be good to put too much weight in the explanatory powers of someone's username.
posted by box at 2:39 PM on January 3, 2012


Who are you again?
posted by Burhanistan


Your typical modus operandi.
posted by futz at 2:41 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


*shrug* I've seen it about, yes...

In addition to sheit, I like Vietnamese pronouns, which are specific to the gender, age, social status, kinship, and mutual attitudes of the speaker and referent.
posted by a robot made out of meat at 2:41 PM on January 3, 2012


MetaFilter: 7 keeps happening to me.

That very possibly might be my one and only expression of this nuisance, which I hate, because it's annoying and a nuisance. However, 7 keeps happening to me proved irresistible. I don't know why.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 2:44 PM on January 3, 2012 [5 favorites]


OP is the same person who favorites their own comments, and apparently knows how to mark their own snark/sarcastic comments in AskMe as 'best answer.'
posted by the man of twists and turns at 2:45 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Do I have the right to ask a third time?

Let's get a general principle clear here: you don't have any rights at all, except the right to choose to leave. This site belongs to Matt, and he has all the rights. You (and me) have none -- except to go someplace else.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 2:45 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


> Your typical modus operandi.

You're my MO? Ok, good to know. Have a nice day.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:45 PM on January 3, 2012


edgeways, "facebook -duh" sounds like a command-line variation that will allow me to read Facebook while minimizing its cognitive load.
posted by brainwane at 2:56 PM on January 3, 2012 [12 favorites]


Tell Me No Lies: “Would a spoiler warning kill you? I'm still living in 1992. I can't believe Silence Of The Lambs swept the Oscars. What were they thinking?”

Man, I won't spoil it for you, but just wait until Cannes in 1994. You are gonna be shocked.
posted by koeselitz at 3:08 PM on January 3, 2012


Getting back to the important question - what exactly is the backstory with Garak?
posted by panboi at 3:15 PM on January 3, 2012


Well, let's see if I can remember from watching all of DS9 start-to-finish about five years ago...

Um, he was basically the protege of the head of the Cardassian intelligence service. And then something happened that I don't recall. Either his mentor became a renegade, or Garak became a renegade against him. Either way, Garak eventually had to flee. And then I think he spent time elsewhere and then on DS9 doing some freelance spycraft for his homeworld, because he's still a patriot, but also being persona non grata. So he spends his time pretending to be a simple tailor on DS9 while actually being the most interesting and amusing character on the entire damn show.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 3:18 PM on January 3, 2012 [5 favorites]


He's actually Bashir's father, but he was corrupted by the power of the Pah-wraiths and turned to the dark side. But then Captain Sheridan and Lenier stole a couple of Starhound Vipers and flew them into the Lexx where young Will Robinson was being held captive, and that collapsed the Mumyian timestream and prevented the nuclear explosion that would otherwise have hurled the moon into deep space, which is how Space: 1999 got canceled.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:21 PM on January 3, 2012 [22 favorites]


I think I just Deep Spaced 9 my trousers.
posted by carsonb at 3:23 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


I would like a pony to request something for once.
posted by Sailormom at 3:28 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


MORE HAY
posted by The Whelk at 3:31 PM on January 3, 2012 [6 favorites]


Deep Space 7 keeps happening to me
posted by zomg at 3:35 PM on January 3, 2012 [7 favorites]


Where's the dislike button for this stupid thread?
posted by HeyAllie at 3:37 PM on January 3, 2012


neuromodulator likes this
posted by neuromodulator at 3:44 PM on January 3, 2012


Thank you all for keeping this thread alive while I was out at the Walker Art Center! I will admit to jessamyn and all concerned that, yes, I am deliberately being a bit of a troll. But I do dislike it so when my questions get deleted from AskMeFi, and my Facebook profile gets deleted from the Internet.
posted by shipbreaker at 3:49 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


this is going well....
posted by tomswift at 3:50 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Walker Art Center

I just thought I would clear that up...

perhaps not safe for work.... just sayin'
posted by tomswift at 3:52 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Garak pretty much stole the show. I would watch a show about Bashir's and Garak's lunches and maybe O'brien could pop by every once in a while.

Really, someone should do a My Dinner With Garak with Garak and Bashir.
posted by Ad hominem at 3:52 PM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


And THAT, my friend, was what I was thinking all the time while I prepared some delightful dinner for myself: that you're confusing your frustration with facebook with what happens here among remote, but quite real people, and are consequently being deliberately a bit of a whatever on the wrong stage. Well, congratulations to a sensitively tackled issue, full seven points.
posted by Namlit at 3:56 PM on January 3, 2012


I will admit to jessamyn and all concerned that, yes, I am deliberately being a bit of a troll.

I will admit to jessamyn and all concerned that, yes, I am deliberately being a bit of a troll.

I WILL ADMIT TO JESSAMYN AND ALL CONCERNED THAT, YES, I AM DELIBERATELY BEING A BIT OF A TROLL.

For the record, all of my trolling is accidental and unintended.
posted by carsonb at 3:57 PM on January 3, 2012 [6 favorites]


(Self-favorited in solidarity, yo.)
posted by carsonb at 3:59 PM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


You know what's wrong with Metafilter these days ? Everyone's obsessed with death.
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:00 PM on January 3, 2012 [8 favorites]


This lime and chipotle chocolate has barely any lime in it. I call foul.
posted by subbes at 4:04 PM on January 3, 2012


I will admit to jessamyn and all concerned that, yes, I am deliberately being a bit of a troll.

We've cut you a lot of slack over past weirdness on the basis of the benefit of the doubt, that when things were going odd it was a misunderstanding and not you intentionally screwing with us or the site. You've pretty much burnt through that now. Adjust your behavior accordingly in the future if you want to keep having this place as a resource.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:05 PM on January 3, 2012 [11 favorites]


You know what's wrong with Metafilter these days ? Everyone's obsessed with death.
posted by sgt.serenity

This gets too complicated for me. Misspellings and vultures inside.
posted by Namlit at 4:06 PM on January 3, 2012


And threats from the admins! My points were quite valid, re-read them more carefully.
posted by shipbreaker at 4:07 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


HeyAllie: Where's the dislike button for this stupid thread?

If the [!] button doesn't give you the desired effect, try this.
posted by gman at 4:09 PM on January 3, 2012


I think it's time for THIS.
posted by tomswift at 4:11 PM on January 3, 2012


And threats from the admins! My points were quite valid, re-read them more carefully.

Maybe put a sock in it and bow out gracefully. Or continue poking them with a stick and arrive at the obvious conclusion.
posted by erebora at 4:12 PM on January 3, 2012 [3 favorites]


I am deliberately being a bit of a troll.

Well I prefer that option to the one where you had the IQ that I was matching with the sorts of responses that I was getting. Be straight with us and we will be straight with you. We have been more than understanding and helpful here and I find your deliberately provocative way of dealing with this problematic.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 4:13 PM on January 3, 2012 [19 favorites]


I'm still waiting for chipotle to come to Iceland so I can take part in the Great Debate.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 4:14 PM on January 3, 2012


shipbreaker: “And threats from the admins! My points were quite valid, re-read them more carefully.”

It's not really a threat; cortex is just letting you know the boundaries. And they're not really boundaries he and the moderators decide on arbitrarily.

I know a lot of this has been a bit confusing, and having a question deleted can be disoriented (as can being locked out of your Facebook account). But you have to accept that we, the people of Metafilter who try to answer your questions and the questions other people ask here, sort of expect certain things when we answer those questions. We expect that you're not jerking us around, and we expect that you're not manipulating us to make a point. I know I speak for a lot of us when I say that we put a lot into giving good answers on ask.metafilter. It's really not fun or cool for anybody to work hard on an answer only to discover you've been tricked into giving it. Can you see why some of us might be a little annoyed by that?

Like I say, I know it's disorienting to have questions deleted, so you might have missed this, but that's how a lot of us feel when we find out people have been posting questions or metatalk posts in a trollish way.
posted by koeselitz at 4:14 PM on January 3, 2012 [4 favorites]


The police are all like "Stop spraypainting your name on that wall or we're going to arrest you" and I'm like "Wow, threats, it's totally art here dudes, pay attention". FACISM.
posted by 0xFCAF at 4:15 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


And threats from the admins!

"Don't fuck with your fellow community members or the site" is not a threat, it's a basic tenet of membership here.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:15 PM on January 3, 2012 [13 favorites]


Shipbreaker, you may want to walk away from this thread for a while before something bad happens. And when you come back, bring me some chili-lime chocolate that's got actual chili in it.
posted by subbes at 4:16 PM on January 3, 2012


you're right; I'm out. Thank you, everyone! AAA++ would do business again.
posted by shipbreaker at 4:18 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Honestly, can't ya'll just ban him now? He's repeatedly been a shit stirring jackass that takes up valuable time and energy and hasn't given anything back that I'm aware of.

He's not having a bad day, week or year. He just wants to be on a stage and has decided it should be here.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:21 PM on January 3, 2012 [15 favorites]


patience of fucking saints. "I was fucking with you guys by acting like a moron the whole time" would get the strike of my banhammer immediately, especially with the last meta shipbreaker posted.
posted by garlic at 4:22 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Thank you, everyone! AAA++ would do business again.

How is this not "I TROLL U LOLOLOOLO", exactly?
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 4:26 PM on January 3, 2012 [6 favorites]


Ship: your points were already addressed by jessamyn, and would have been handled smoothly had you answered the emails from the mods.
Admitting to trolling for effect does not a) affect the validity of my first sentence, nor b) win you any brownie points, ponies, admiration or respect.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 4:26 PM on January 3, 2012


The poor troll's voyeuristic journey through Metafilter just ended in anticlimax. Guess he'll go back to rubbing one out solo.
posted by gman at 4:26 PM on January 3, 2012


Damn, all y'all type hella faster than me.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 4:27 PM on January 3, 2012


You know what's wrong with Metafilter these days ? Everyone's obsessed with death.

Only yours.

(hugs! kidding!)
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 4:27 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


I have a few favs from Shipbreaker in my private stash. They are among my proudest possessions.
posted by Ad hominem at 4:30 PM on January 3, 2012


Guess he'll go back to rubbing one out solo.

This is what I'm talking about. I thought the site inspired a higher class of troll, a sort of rare vintage that could be savored and admired amidst the loathing.

Instead we get this, the equivalent of a three dollar bottle of Pinot Grigio bought at Walmart. Never mind, how I know such things exist.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:30 PM on January 3, 2012


Honestly, can't ya'll just ban him now? He's repeatedly been a shit stirring jackass that takes up valuable time and energy and hasn't given anything back that I'm aware of.

He's not having a bad day, week or year. He just wants to be on a stage and has decided it should be here.




O wad some Power the gift tae gie us, to see oursels as ithers see us.
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:32 PM on January 3, 2012


I'm not going to be jerky to shipbuilder, but I just have to say, what he did here was pretty much one of my least liked things ever. Not dealing in good faith to simply make a point seems insanely condescending and really turns my stomach for some reason.
posted by SpacemanStix at 4:33 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


I meant shipbreaker, of course.
posted by SpacemanStix at 4:36 PM on January 3, 2012


feh
posted by Divine_Wino at 4:37 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Not dealing in good faith to simply make a point seems insanely condescending and really turns my stomach for some reason.

I think all monkeys told to dance have that feeling.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 4:37 PM on January 3, 2012


Who are you again?

I think it may be a defect of cognition for people not to recognize other mefites.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 4:41 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Guess he'll go back to rubbing one out solo.

I think shipbreaker uses faves as bookmarks; I checked it out and a lot of the favorites seem to be of their own Asks. Although those are already marked on the same screen where you'd find your favorites, so your guess is as good as mine.
posted by Hoopo at 4:44 PM on January 3, 2012


Now that's how you troll.
posted by Burhanistan at 4:44 PM on January 3, 2012


do not
posted by Hoopo at 4:46 PM on January 3, 2012


Sorry, Hoppo. I was referring to the comment above yours.
posted by Burhanistan at 4:49 PM on January 3, 2012


Hoopo: I think shipbreaker uses faves as bookmarks; I checked it out and a lot of the favorites seem to be of their own Asks.

Dude favourited three of his own comments in this thread. If I had an "episode" like he did here, the last thing I'd do is bookmark my idiocy. Then again, I don't imagine shipbreaker and I have much in common.
posted by gman at 4:52 PM on January 3, 2012


Sorry, Hoppo. I was referring to the comment above yours.

I'm really not trying to troll. But "point taken".
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 4:53 PM on January 3, 2012


Fuck, you're annoying. That was meant for the comment right above mine.
posted by gman at 4:54 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


Maybe you two can take it to email or just drop it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:55 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


1 fave from Shipbreaker. I took my favorites out of their cases over the holiday so the neighborhood kids could check them out, they put them back in the wrong order and got peanut butter on a few. I am never letting them out of my sight again, if I keep them mint they will be worth a fortune some day.
posted by Ad hominem at 5:00 PM on January 3, 2012


garlic: 'patience of fucking saints. "I was fucking with you guys by acting like a moron the whole time" would get the strike of my banhammer immediately, especially with the last meta shipbreaker posted.'

Patience of fucking saints indeed. Looking back, it's clear she/he/it (s'h'it?) has been trolling all along.
posted by dg at 5:04 PM on January 3, 2012


Sorry to say, Ad hominem, but they weren't so rare before shipbreaker began trolling in this thread. Faves for posts, yes. Faves for comments, not so much. And what's with FULL CAPS for AskMe posts?

Just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name...

posted by filthy light thief at 5:09 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


And I think The Patience of Saints should be a compilation album of 80s-style covers of songs by cortex, complete with an 80s-style cover.
posted by filthy light thief at 5:11 PM on January 3, 2012 [7 favorites]


The Patients of Saints is the tell-all profile book I'm writing about MeFites who've been banhammered.
posted by carsonb at 5:25 PM on January 3, 2012


I think The Patience of Saints should be a compilation album of 80s-style covers of songs by cortex, complete with an 80s-style cover.

Oh my god, if I ever win the lottery, I am going to ask cortex exactly how much money would be required to make this happen. (I envision a gauzy band photograph of all the mods on the back of the album, taken in front of a brick wall in the winter. At least two of them will be wearing berets. Also, there will be duffel coats.)
posted by scody at 5:27 PM on January 3, 2012 [18 favorites]


Muuuuch as I enjoy a pileon, this is why the green and the gray(brown to some) get different moderation. shipbreaker didn't get it, and didn't correspond with the mods, and maybe hasn't spent the last 10 years geeking out on teh web. Then thought that metatalk, where we talk about the site, was a good place to try to figure it out.

Once in a while, it's okay to be nice to people.

shipbreaker, spend some time emailing the moderators. There's a way-too-small link at the bottom right of the page - contact. That's how you launch a correspondence, though maybe they've contacted you by now.
posted by theora55 at 5:33 PM on January 3, 2012


Jesus, if this was Reddit and shipbreaker pulled the same stunt, there would be a subreddit devoted to hijacking this maroon Facebook account. Gotta like MetaFilter, even if it means having to tolerate idjits once in a while.
posted by KokuRyu at 5:33 PM on January 3, 2012


shipbreaker, spend some time emailing the moderators. There's a way-too-small link at the bottom right of the page - contact. That's how you launch a correspondence, though maybe they've contacted you by now.

Unless you are deliberately trolling.
posted by KokuRyu at 5:34 PM on January 3, 2012


Jesus, if this was Reddit and shipbreaker pulled the same stunt, there would be a subreddit devoted to hijacking this maroon Facebook account.

And, as far as I know, there is no way for him to get his account back once he is locked out!
posted by furiousxgeorge at 5:35 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


Once in a while, it's okay to be nice to people.

And once in a while, people admit to deliberately trolling. And then patience becomes an exercise in futility.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 5:36 PM on January 3, 2012


Also, he did memail with the mods; the very first post in this thread is Jessamyn asking if he read the mail she sent him. He trolled them. Because he was trolling.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 5:40 PM on January 3, 2012


close it up.
posted by Divine_Wino at 5:41 PM on January 3, 2012 [1 favorite]


yiiiikes
posted by iamkimiam at 5:42 PM on January 3, 2012


Flagged shipbreaker's comment because POSTING YOUR PHONE NUMBER? SERIOUSLY?
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 5:43 PM on January 3, 2012


Seriously. Haven't you been reading what my problem is?
posted by shipbreaker at 5:45 PM on January 3, 2012 [2 favorites]


So when is the shadowban/hellban/ghostban getting implemented again?
posted by the man of twists and turns at 5:45 PM on January 3, 2012


We need your social, too.
posted by absalom at 5:45 PM on January 3, 2012


Haven't you been reading what my problem is?

At this point I'm pretty sure what your problem ACTUALLY is may not be what you THINK it is.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 5:47 PM on January 3, 2012 [8 favorites]


Because we all needed a new credit card....
posted by tomswift at 5:48 PM on January 3, 2012


Okay, calling this a day. shipbreaker, cut the shit going forward, thank you.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:51 PM on January 3, 2012 [5 favorites]


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