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We almost got our own beer. Wonder who owns the name?
posted by Mr. Yuck to MetaFilter-Related at 1:56 AM (46 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite

Funny, I was recently trying to find the origin of this term as used on the internet, and didn't really come up with it... though I bet it's been addressed here before. The first time it was used in reference to Mefi was, I think, in this Metatalk comment. At any rate, we do, obviously, need our own beer.
posted by taz (staff) at 2:05 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


Earliest I could think would be the Tyranids, but if it's in WH40k, it's presumably nicked from somewhere else...
posted by pompomtom at 3:43 AM on March 31, 2015


(Here's a haphazardly searched reference specifically to internet-as-hivemind from the year before MeFi launched.)
posted by nobody at 4:09 AM on March 31, 2015


When did beer brewing become the domain of litigious fucknobs?

Is it because of all those years of making overhopped IPAs, the bitterness has been seeping into their skin and blood?
posted by ardgedee at 4:42 AM on March 31, 2015 [4 favorites]


Earliest I could think would be the Tyranids, but if it's in WH40k, it's presumably nicked from somewhere else...

The Blue = Behemoth
The Grey = Kraken
The Green = Leviathan

Music can be Naga, Jobs can be Hydra, and FanFare can be Moloch I guess. IRL, as you might guess considering I just compared a website to fictitious alien invasions, does not apply.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:44 AM on March 31, 2015


When did beer brewing become the domain of litigious fucknobs?

*coff* Anchor "Steam" *coff*

I'm positive litigious fucknobbery preceded this too though.
posted by edgeways at 6:03 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


This article says that these are the folks in Chicago. I don't see the Hive-Minded in their current lineup. Maybe it's a seasonal of some kind.

botanic beers? ok then.
posted by jquinby at 6:21 AM on March 31, 2015


Meta beer does exist. It's Ethiopian and the beer advocate consensus is right. It is okay.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:26 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


"Hive mind" (two words) goes back a ways and seems to come out of beekeeping. See for example these journal snippets from about 1943, and this book from 1945. It makes the jump to science fiction in 1957.

As "hivemind" (one word) it makes its first Googleable book appearance* in this 1983 book about science fiction movies. The snippet shown appears to be about the 1977 film Empire of the Ants. (This is based on a 1905 H. G. Wells story but the original story doesn't use "hive mind".)

*Google book search also brings up this 1960 result for "hivemind" but shows none of the text. It's a scifi novel called The Midwich Cuckoos, which involves "extraterrestrial beings" so it could contain "hivemind" as well.
posted by beagle at 6:33 AM on March 31, 2015 [7 favorites]


Professional Belgian White
Administrator, Please Hop Me!

Those are all the Metafilter beer names I have this morning.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 6:38 AM on March 31, 2015 [15 favorites]


Flagon And Move On?
posted by jquinby at 6:43 AM on March 31, 2015 [10 favorites]


This Bock, It Vibrates?
IPAnysterical
posted by Strange Interlude at 6:46 AM on March 31, 2015 [5 favorites]


$20, SAISon
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 6:53 AM on March 31, 2015 [22 favorites]


$20, SAISon

You magnificent bastard.
posted by jquinby at 6:54 AM on March 31, 2015 [3 favorites]


I don't see the Hive-Minded in their current lineup. Maybe it's a seasonal of some kind.

It doesn't show up on Beer Advocate, and Untappd only lists it as appearing at the Oak Park Micro Brew Review, a Chicago beer fest. It's apparently a Blonde Ale served through a Randal with Ancho Chili, Papaya, and Cherry. So a) you're not going to see it in your corner bodega, and b) ugh.
posted by zamboni at 7:00 AM on March 31, 2015


There's a bottle of bashos_frog's TCP-IPA sitting in my fridge; it's pretty good, too. Recipe.
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 7:03 AM on March 31, 2015 [2 favorites]


Silenced Ale My Life (or alternately, There Is No Cabale)
posted by zombieflanders at 7:03 AM on March 31, 2015 [10 favorites]


Metafilter: the beer advocate consensus is right. It is okay.
posted by Kabanos at 7:04 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


LeMatt Blue
posted by Kabanos at 7:05 AM on March 31, 2015 [3 favorites]


Every beer bottle in the U.S. must be approved by this guy. "Meet the Beer Bottle Dictator."
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 7:12 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


"Meet the Beer Bottle Dictator."

I think we already did.
posted by zamboni at 7:24 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


DTMFIPA
posted by ardgedee at 7:25 AM on March 31, 2015 [7 favorites]


this will not wendale
posted by logicpunk at 7:40 AM on March 31, 2015 [5 favorites]


The lager it's OK to like
posted by Johnny Assay at 7:43 AM on March 31, 2015 [3 favorites]


Everyone needs a mug.
posted by ardgedee at 7:46 AM on March 31, 2015 [16 favorites]


"Hive mind" (two words) goes back a ways and seems to come out of beekeeping. See for example these journal snippets from about 1943, and this book from 1945. It makes the jump to science fiction in 1957.

Really interesting. And then "hive mind" was apparently imported from science fiction to Internetspeak by Kevin Kelly — or at least popularized, I'm not sure if this was the very first such usage (though he apparently thinks so) but it's clearly the most influential — in Out of Control (1995). (This is also the source of a lot of the other "swarm" and "wisdom of crowds" pop-social theory so familiar in Internet culture.)

As "hivemind" (one word) it makes its first Googleable book appearance* in this 1983 book about science fiction movies.

Trivial, but: it's actually hyphenated across a line break there, so impossible to know for sure, but I'm guessing it was meant as a two-word phrase. Some of the contemporary mid-'90s references to Kelly's Netspeak version give it as intercapped "HiveMind," so it seems like maybe running the words together was initially a computerese, look-it's-a-techie-word move.
posted by RogerB at 8:51 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


Would one of you pretty please start a Metafilter brewery so I can order a pint of $20 SAISon? (Administrator, Please Hop Me sounds pretty good too).
posted by thivaia at 9:26 AM on March 31, 2015


Can I Drink This IPA?

IANALager?
posted by Ghidorah at 9:30 AM on March 31, 2015 [6 favorites]


Hurf Durf Hefeweizen
posted by Kabanos at 10:04 AM on March 31, 2015 [4 favorites]


It makes the jump to science fiction in 1957.

The SF Citations project (and thus the Draft Additions for the OED/Oxford Dictionary of SF) for hive-mind, n. couldn't beat 1950 as the earliest use.
J. H. SCHMITZ in Galaxy Sci. Fiction Dec. 22/2   It's pretty certain, too, that the Halpa have the hive-mind class of intelligence, so what goes for the nerve systems of most of the ones they send through to us might be nothing much more than secondary reflex-transmitters.
If you'd like to see it in context, here's Second Night of Summer on archive.org.
posted by zamboni at 10:12 AM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


Metafilter: the IPA it's okay to like.
posted by Pope Guilty at 12:04 PM on March 31, 2015


I have had Meta beer. It's a decent, crisp and heady lager. I would not recommend sessioning with it unless you're a Sherpa or something.
posted by loquacious at 12:05 PM on March 31, 2015


We have CAMRAs
posted by exogenous at 1:59 PM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


Overthinking a Pint of Bitter
posted by logicpunk at 2:42 PM on March 31, 2015 [2 favorites]


Shut up and drink!
posted by vrakatar at 5:18 PM on March 31, 2015


I'm just going to leave some links to Clown Shoes' awesome labels.
posted by eyeballkid at 8:50 PM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


PabstBlue.
posted by blueberry at 10:07 PM on March 31, 2015 [1 favorite]


Crouton Porter
posted by kagredon at 5:32 AM on April 1, 2015 [1 favorite]


One of these years I'll get into ill-advised home brewing and cook up a batch of something regrettable and Metafilter-themed and then post pictures of myself "deleting" the batch after several of my friends politely flag it.

Hurf Durf Hefeweizen

Or possibly Hurf Durf Doppelbocker
posted by cortex (staff) at 7:21 AM on April 1, 2015 [3 favorites]


ardgedee: Everyone needs a mug.

I would buy a plain coffee mug wit this on it, and also etched in a proper big glass mug.
posted by filthy light thief at 8:39 AM on April 1, 2015 [2 favorites]


I look forward to the MetaFilter "Special Snowflake" seasonal brew, which is just one of the regular brews in a different label.
posted by filthy light thief at 8:40 AM on April 1, 2015 [4 favorites]


One of these years I'll get into ill-advised home brewing and cook up a batch of something regrettable and Metafilter-themed and then post pictures of myself "deleting" the batch after several of my friends politely flag it.

We know it'd be the only label with a picture on it, anyway.
posted by jquinby at 8:46 AM on April 1, 2015


Wonder who owns the name?

The queen, probably.
posted by Sys Rq at 9:51 AM on April 1, 2015 [1 favorite]


Meta (Cold) Filtered.
posted by Greg_Ace at 12:23 PM on April 1, 2015 [1 favorite]


I don't know about beer. But I do know that ginger beer is super easy, doesn't require much precision, and sometimes comes out tasting like beer-beer. We found it was easiest to brew in Portland in summer. Where by "brew" I mostly mean "wait."

If you want empty glass bottles with cages, you can sometimes acquire them by offering to pay the bottle deposit fee to places that accepts returns.
posted by aniola at 11:16 PM on April 1, 2015


I'm planning on making a beer next weekend and I've been having some trouble deciding on a style. Maybe I'll put together a MeFi themed batch. Something with blueberries for the Blue? A Meta-Unfiltered heff?

Tapping it seems like a solid excuse for an NYC meetup.
posted by Itaxpica at 8:20 PM on April 3, 2015


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