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good going, Keyser. Here are the dates for all the other states.
posted by amberglow at 5:54 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by amberglow at 5:54 PM on October 10, 2004
Thanks guys. I'm trying to get members of my family who never vote to go out and register. Looks like I'm running out of time....
posted by vacapinta at 5:57 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by vacapinta at 5:57 PM on October 10, 2004
Give it a rest.
This is about the last thread I would have expected too-cool-for-school posing in. Voting good, yes?
posted by cortex at 6:52 PM on October 10, 2004
This is about the last thread I would have expected too-cool-for-school posing in. Voting good, yes?
posted by cortex at 6:52 PM on October 10, 2004
yup. Voting very good. (And i think this is Keyser's first presidential election, no? You never forget your first time.)
posted by amberglow at 6:58 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by amberglow at 6:58 PM on October 10, 2004
I don't think any of us are going to forget this one.
posted by Keyser Soze at 7:21 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by Keyser Soze at 7:21 PM on October 10, 2004
You're so right (and it'll be the surprisingly large Kerry win that'll make it memorable) : >
posted by amberglow at 8:43 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by amberglow at 8:43 PM on October 10, 2004
Perhaps it's just that dutch elections are utterly mundane, but I have don't recall the first election I voted in, and that was three years ago I think. Better do something else memorable that day.
posted by fvw at 8:54 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by fvw at 8:54 PM on October 10, 2004
Oh, I remember the entire Pim Fortuyn thing, I just don't remember going to the polling station and casting my ballot, though in hindsight perhaps that's not what you meant. Yes, I do remember the election if you include the lead up to it (and let down after it); I probably would have remembered that without voting though.
Or maybe I just forgot to vote. *grins*
posted by fvw at 9:04 PM on October 10, 2004
Or maybe I just forgot to vote. *grins*
posted by fvw at 9:04 PM on October 10, 2004
My first vote (self-link) was 1996 - Clinton, and Jim Maloney in the Connecticut 5th. Not as exciting as this year's contest. Having come back to Connecticut via the DC suburbs and the People's Republic of Cambridge, I've never had the opportunity to vote in a swing state.
Still, I get to say that I voted for John Kerry two years ago under much less dramatic circumstances. He didn't have a Republican opponent then. Final score: Kerry 85% and the libertarian candidate 15%.
My vote this year will be a drop in the bucket, as Kerry and Dodd will easily carry Connecticut, and John Larson of the 1st district has about as safe a congressional seat as possible.
posted by PrinceValium at 9:09 PM on October 10, 2004
Still, I get to say that I voted for John Kerry two years ago under much less dramatic circumstances. He didn't have a Republican opponent then. Final score: Kerry 85% and the libertarian candidate 15%.
My vote this year will be a drop in the bucket, as Kerry and Dodd will easily carry Connecticut, and John Larson of the 1st district has about as safe a congressional seat as possible.
posted by PrinceValium at 9:09 PM on October 10, 2004
fvw, we're trying to encourage the younger folks to vote, not the opposite--shh! ; P
posted by amberglow at 9:10 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by amberglow at 9:10 PM on October 10, 2004
84-Mondale/Ferraro was my first presidential vote--i was so excited.
posted by amberglow at 9:11 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by amberglow at 9:11 PM on October 10, 2004
My first election was 1990, and I only got to vote locally. In 1992 I voted for Perot, then Clinton in '96, and Nader in 2000. I've voted for nutjob independents more than democrats so far for president.
Oh to be young and stupid again.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:25 PM on October 10, 2004
Oh to be young and stupid again.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:25 PM on October 10, 2004
I don't think any of us are going to forget this one.
You're so right (and it'll be the surprisingly large Kerry win that'll make it memorable) : >
And yet it won't change a thing. The poor will still be poor, the jobless without jobs. Don't have health care? Don't expect it. Two sides of the same coin.
Like chris rocks said, "no matter if living under a republican or democratic administration, compton is still compton."
Or something like that.
posted by justgary at 9:27 PM on October 10, 2004
You're so right (and it'll be the surprisingly large Kerry win that'll make it memorable) : >
And yet it won't change a thing. The poor will still be poor, the jobless without jobs. Don't have health care? Don't expect it. Two sides of the same coin.
Like chris rocks said, "no matter if living under a republican or democratic administration, compton is still compton."
Or something like that.
posted by justgary at 9:27 PM on October 10, 2004
And yet it won't change a thing...
Well, the poor actually got a little less poor under Clinton, so that's not always so. There were jobs too.
posted by amberglow at 9:35 PM on October 10, 2004
What do you want justgary, a revolution? Ha! If we go slow enough and the beer stays cheap, they won't even notice. Notice the walls of these ghettos. Hasn't it ever crossed your mind that we might have done that on purpose?
Maybe, just maybe, the very walls of these neighborhoods will slowly retard these people and they won't take over shit.
posted by Keyser Soze at 10:08 PM on October 10, 2004
Maybe, just maybe, the very walls of these neighborhoods will slowly retard these people and they won't take over shit.
posted by Keyser Soze at 10:08 PM on October 10, 2004
Amberglow, a little less? And as far as jobs, we could play with statistics forever, and I know how you feel about bush, and you certainly have a lot of things you can sink your teeth into (the war, taxes), but this whole job thing is nonsense.
We've already done this in a past metafilter thread, but the unemployment rate is fine. You keep talking about "no jobs" and its simply not true, and saying it so doesn't make it so. If the election came down to the unemployment rate kerry would be in trouble. Compare it to past years, other nations, it's not an issue.
Best way to make sure you have a job? Stay in school. This whole elect a new president and everything will turn around for someone unemployed is comical. There are a million things a person can do that will affect his/her life far more than if our president is named kerry or bush.
posted by justgary at 10:08 PM on October 10, 2004
We've already done this in a past metafilter thread, but the unemployment rate is fine. You keep talking about "no jobs" and its simply not true, and saying it so doesn't make it so. If the election came down to the unemployment rate kerry would be in trouble. Compare it to past years, other nations, it's not an issue.
Best way to make sure you have a job? Stay in school. This whole elect a new president and everything will turn around for someone unemployed is comical. There are a million things a person can do that will affect his/her life far more than if our president is named kerry or bush.
posted by justgary at 10:08 PM on October 10, 2004
The best way to increase overall pay? Sponsor better college relief for people whose parents can't afford to send their son or daughter to school for 4 years, let alone a semester.
posted by Keyser Soze at 10:09 PM on October 10, 2004
posted by Keyser Soze at 10:09 PM on October 10, 2004
Parents didn't pay for my college. I made use of some of that 'crappy college relief', and worked. Novel concept.
Imagine what I could have done with kerry in office! /sarcasm.
posted by justgary at 10:33 PM on October 10, 2004
Imagine what I could have done with kerry in office! /sarcasm.
posted by justgary at 10:33 PM on October 10, 2004
What do you want justgary, a revolution? Ha! If we go slow enough and the beer stays cheap, they won't even notice. Notice the walls of these ghettos. Hasn't it ever crossed your mind that we might have done that on purpose?
Maybe, just maybe, the very walls of these neighborhoods will slowly retard these people and they won't take over shit.
Take off the tinfoil hat keyser.
posted by justgary at 10:38 PM on October 10, 2004
Maybe, just maybe, the very walls of these neighborhoods will slowly retard these people and they won't take over shit.
Take off the tinfoil hat keyser.
posted by justgary at 10:38 PM on October 10, 2004
justgary,
I grew up in poverty. Programs like headstart, subsidized school lunches etc. made a huge difference for me. These things are extremely politically sensitive during budget time. I've had more than one promising cousin bypass education to head into the working class because their family needed money *now*
I'd like to see less military spending, more on social services, enlightened immigration policies, and an understanding of the opportunity cost in mucking with the environment. Yeah, I think this election will make a difference...
posted by vacapinta at 11:16 PM on October 10, 2004
I grew up in poverty. Programs like headstart, subsidized school lunches etc. made a huge difference for me. These things are extremely politically sensitive during budget time. I've had more than one promising cousin bypass education to head into the working class because their family needed money *now*
I'd like to see less military spending, more on social services, enlightened immigration policies, and an understanding of the opportunity cost in mucking with the environment. Yeah, I think this election will make a difference...
posted by vacapinta at 11:16 PM on October 10, 2004
Unless you're republican. Then just don't register or don't vote.
Sincerely,
Most of Canada.
posted by The God Complex at 11:49 PM on October 10, 2004
Sincerely,
Most of Canada.
posted by The God Complex at 11:49 PM on October 10, 2004
Vacapinta, I also would like to see less money spent on the military. And I'm for social programs to an extent. I realize for many people they're very important. I also realize that if many on metafilter had there way we would be broke from social programs.
I simply would rather bet on the individual than the government, although I realize that's not very popular here. Let's face it, all the "get out and vote" comments on metafilter are really "get out and vote bush out of office", as the god complex honestly states.
Let's just agree to disagree. I will never believe that what the government does affects me more than what I do. And after 8 years of kerry we will still have a group of people (though not on metafilter) who will believe they'd be better under a different administration. It's always easier to blame someone else for one's situation.
I just don't see a whole lot changing no matter what party is in charge. I do believe in myself, however. But hey, I'm all for everyone voting also, and that's what keyser wants, so everyone vote. Joy.
posted by justgary at 12:24 AM on October 11, 2004
I simply would rather bet on the individual than the government, although I realize that's not very popular here. Let's face it, all the "get out and vote" comments on metafilter are really "get out and vote bush out of office", as the god complex honestly states.
Let's just agree to disagree. I will never believe that what the government does affects me more than what I do. And after 8 years of kerry we will still have a group of people (though not on metafilter) who will believe they'd be better under a different administration. It's always easier to blame someone else for one's situation.
I just don't see a whole lot changing no matter what party is in charge. I do believe in myself, however. But hey, I'm all for everyone voting also, and that's what keyser wants, so everyone vote. Joy.
posted by justgary at 12:24 AM on October 11, 2004
I wasn't saying that there isn't any money now for people wanting to go to college, I am just stating that it has not been as much as before. This, of course, can be contributed to many.... well you get my point. I don't know that either president would make it any better, I just know that George Bush has presented us rather poorly, and if kerry is even slightly better then things will be at least slightly better at home and far.
posted by Keyser Soze at 12:52 AM on October 11, 2004
posted by Keyser Soze at 12:52 AM on October 11, 2004
And by the way justgary, if you are voting for George Bush, I am glad you at least voted.
posted by Keyser Soze at 12:54 AM on October 11, 2004
posted by Keyser Soze at 12:54 AM on October 11, 2004
Guys. Oregon? Who gives a fuck?
Arkansas! Minnesota! New Hampshire! Go!
posted by Pretty_Generic at 12:55 AM on October 11, 2004
Arkansas! Minnesota! New Hampshire! Go!
posted by Pretty_Generic at 12:55 AM on October 11, 2004
I wasn't saying that there isn't any money now for people wanting to go to college, I am just stating that it has not been as much as before. This, of course, can be contributed to many.... well you get my point. I don't know that either president would make it any better, I just know that George Bush has presented us rather poorly, and if kerry is even slightly better then things will be at least slightly better at home and far.
Well put keyser.
posted by justgary at 1:52 AM on October 11, 2004
Well put keyser.
posted by justgary at 1:52 AM on October 11, 2004
the unemployment rate is fine.
Yeah. As long as you're not looking for a job other than retail or McDonald's. Or anything that pays more than $8/hour.
posted by yoga at 5:36 AM on October 11, 2004
Yeah. As long as you're not looking for a job other than retail or McDonald's. Or anything that pays more than $8/hour.
posted by yoga at 5:36 AM on October 11, 2004
... the unemployment rate is fine. You keep talking about "no jobs" and its simply not true, and saying it so doesn't make it so.
Saying it's not so doesn't make it not so either, actually.
Purely anecdotally, I know a lot more unemployed people now than I used to, and I get a lot fewer random feelers from headhunters.
(Not that I've spent appreciable time unemployed myself. I've always been pretty aggressive about always working - probably why, when the economy was better, I was getting the headhunter calls.)
posted by Karmakaze at 12:45 PM on October 11, 2004
Saying it's not so doesn't make it not so either, actually.
Purely anecdotally, I know a lot more unemployed people now than I used to, and I get a lot fewer random feelers from headhunters.
(Not that I've spent appreciable time unemployed myself. I've always been pretty aggressive about always working - probably why, when the economy was better, I was getting the headhunter calls.)
posted by Karmakaze at 12:45 PM on October 11, 2004
As long as you're not looking for a job other than retail or McDonald's. Or anything that pays more than $8/hour.
Your education and choice of major has much more to do with that than the election. Again, if you want to blame it on one guy, that's your choice.
Saying it's not so doesn't make it not so either, actually.
If I had just said it, no, but I didn't. Look at the unemployment figures compared to past years and places around the world. You can't argue with them, and, as statistics go, are much more reliable than any group of people a person may know.
posted by justgary at 1:26 PM on October 11, 2004
Your education and choice of major has much more to do with that than the election. Again, if you want to blame it on one guy, that's your choice.
Saying it's not so doesn't make it not so either, actually.
If I had just said it, no, but I didn't. Look at the unemployment figures compared to past years and places around the world. You can't argue with them, and, as statistics go, are much more reliable than any group of people a person may know.
posted by justgary at 1:26 PM on October 11, 2004
And yet it won't change a thing. The poor will still be poor, the jobless without jobs. Don't have health care? Don't expect it. Two sides of the same coin.
Two words: Supreme Court. The next president will have a minimum of two appointments, with a potential of maybe four total if he's a two-termer. Maybe more. The next president could have a larger impact on the makeup of the court than any other president has had for at least 60 years. And these two candidates have diametrically opposed approaches to court appointments. Look for a Bush-appointed court to erode reproductive heath rights, privacy rights in general (particularly under Chief Justice Scalia), and the wall between Church and State.
Maybe you think the court is irrelevant, but I think most students of American history would disagree. The Supreme Court has a huge impact on American life at a very basic level.
That's what this election is about, for me.
posted by mr_roboto at 2:04 PM on October 11, 2004
Two words: Supreme Court. The next president will have a minimum of two appointments, with a potential of maybe four total if he's a two-termer. Maybe more. The next president could have a larger impact on the makeup of the court than any other president has had for at least 60 years. And these two candidates have diametrically opposed approaches to court appointments. Look for a Bush-appointed court to erode reproductive heath rights, privacy rights in general (particularly under Chief Justice Scalia), and the wall between Church and State.
Maybe you think the court is irrelevant, but I think most students of American history would disagree. The Supreme Court has a huge impact on American life at a very basic level.
That's what this election is about, for me.
posted by mr_roboto at 2:04 PM on October 11, 2004
if you want to blame it on one guy, that's your choice.
Who said I was blaming it on one guy? You, I believe. And as for the education / choice of major, it's more the honest work and career building that develops WAY after college that makes marketability, not the degree per se. Plenty of people have successful careers in fields other than their study focus in school.
Might I suggest Robert Byrd's book, Losing America as some reference material. And before conclusions are jumped to on that one, it's not about the economy.
posted by yoga at 5:39 AM on October 12, 2004
Who said I was blaming it on one guy? You, I believe. And as for the education / choice of major, it's more the honest work and career building that develops WAY after college that makes marketability, not the degree per se. Plenty of people have successful careers in fields other than their study focus in school.
Might I suggest Robert Byrd's book, Losing America as some reference material. And before conclusions are jumped to on that one, it's not about the economy.
posted by yoga at 5:39 AM on October 12, 2004
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posted by Keyser Soze at 5:49 PM on October 10, 2004