crunchland has the most helpful user page November 15, 2005 7:52 PM Subscribe
crunchland has the most helpful user page I've seen here. It's like the entire mefi wiki wrapped up in a single page. Thanks, crunchland.
Wow, that is pretty helpful, but I still like holloway's profile best.
posted by tweak at 8:06 PM on November 15, 2005
posted by tweak at 8:06 PM on November 15, 2005
Meh, all the cool kids knew about crunchland's user page ages ago.
I like holloway's page too, but I think his message is a bit subtle - he needs to tart it up a bit to get mathowie's attention properly. Also, phpilter rocks.
posted by dg at 8:15 PM on November 15, 2005
I like holloway's page too, but I think his message is a bit subtle - he needs to tart it up a bit to get mathowie's attention properly. Also, phpilter rocks.
posted by dg at 8:15 PM on November 15, 2005
WOW.
As a newbie, too terrified to yet make a FPP after a year, I find that quite illuminating. Not knowing what sites are considered mainstream, I've never known if something I found to be interesting was worthy of a FPP. In the past, I have, on occasion, considered linking something and then decided not to out of fear of a double-post or linking to one of the unknown verboten sites; only to see that same site linked later, often to much acclaim.
For those of us newbies who really come here for the links, and who don't just want to hear ourselves talk, it would be nice to be given a list of the sites that are considered mainstream, or widely read. I realize that the NY Times or Washington Post fall into these categories, yet nonetheless I see those places linked frequently. Those of us spend limited time online also will not often attend the mainstream places and thus likely will not see all those fabulous links that heavier users consider old hat.
What amazes me continually are the members who completely ignore the FAQ on posting guidelines who then become antagonistic and defensive when their news-filter, snarky, agenda-ridden, stylistic nightmare, double-posts to FARK are derided.
posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 8:36 PM on November 15, 2005
As a newbie, too terrified to yet make a FPP after a year, I find that quite illuminating. Not knowing what sites are considered mainstream, I've never known if something I found to be interesting was worthy of a FPP. In the past, I have, on occasion, considered linking something and then decided not to out of fear of a double-post or linking to one of the unknown verboten sites; only to see that same site linked later, often to much acclaim.
For those of us newbies who really come here for the links, and who don't just want to hear ourselves talk, it would be nice to be given a list of the sites that are considered mainstream, or widely read. I realize that the NY Times or Washington Post fall into these categories, yet nonetheless I see those places linked frequently. Those of us spend limited time online also will not often attend the mainstream places and thus likely will not see all those fabulous links that heavier users consider old hat.
What amazes me continually are the members who completely ignore the FAQ on posting guidelines who then become antagonistic and defensive when their news-filter, snarky, agenda-ridden, stylistic nightmare, double-posts to FARK are derided.
posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 8:36 PM on November 15, 2005
Double, maybe triple post. Disappointing matt, really...
posted by justgary at 8:59 PM on November 15, 2005
posted by justgary at 8:59 PM on November 15, 2005
I've never seen it. It's worth mentioning two or three times, to be honest. It should be a permanent page on the site now that I think about it.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:08 PM on November 15, 2005
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:08 PM on November 15, 2005
(I was joking matt, if that didn't come across)
Just add it to the guidelines.
posted by justgary at 9:22 PM on November 15, 2005
Just add it to the guidelines.
posted by justgary at 9:22 PM on November 15, 2005
As a newbie, too terrified to yet make a FPP after a year....
There is nothing to be afraid of. The worse you can do is look like an ass in front of a bunch of strangers. From reading your comment, I think you'd avoid a lot of problems people have with questionable posts.
posted by marxchivist at 9:25 PM on November 15, 2005
There is nothing to be afraid of. The worse you can do is look like an ass in front of a bunch of strangers. From reading your comment, I think you'd avoid a lot of problems people have with questionable posts.
posted by marxchivist at 9:25 PM on November 15, 2005
I feel as if I should print this out and put it in my wallet. I'm impressed, and I'm usually not impressed.
posted by geoff. at 9:31 PM on November 15, 2005
posted by geoff. at 9:31 PM on November 15, 2005
I like the stuff that I agree with which is not in the guidelines. Like "avoid newsfilter."
Shall we start pointing to this thread as implicit mathowie endorsement of that directive? ;)
posted by scarabic at 9:59 PM on November 15, 2005
Shall we start pointing to this thread as implicit mathowie endorsement of that directive? ;)
posted by scarabic at 9:59 PM on November 15, 2005
The #1 MetaFilter rule is still: don't be dumb.
I swear. I realize that people feel threatened and it takes them years to get up the guts to make a post and all, but that comes with the territory. If there's no penalty for being dumb, a site devolves rapidly. And if there's one thing that has kept me coming back year after year, it's not "eschew doublepostage" or "avoid newsfilter" (OBVIOUSLY not the latter). It's the culture of DON'T BE DUMB. Not only does it please me to take in everyone's un-dumbness, I'm amused by the regular smacking down of the dumbness that seeps in. And my own dumbness has been whittled down a touch over the years, just by hanging out here.
"Think before you post" is excellent life advice.
posted by scarabic at 10:02 PM on November 15, 2005
I swear. I realize that people feel threatened and it takes them years to get up the guts to make a post and all, but that comes with the territory. If there's no penalty for being dumb, a site devolves rapidly. And if there's one thing that has kept me coming back year after year, it's not "eschew doublepostage" or "avoid newsfilter" (OBVIOUSLY not the latter). It's the culture of DON'T BE DUMB. Not only does it please me to take in everyone's un-dumbness, I'm amused by the regular smacking down of the dumbness that seeps in. And my own dumbness has been whittled down a touch over the years, just by hanging out here.
"Think before you post" is excellent life advice.
posted by scarabic at 10:02 PM on November 15, 2005
How does the saying go?
"One man's dumb is another man's treasure."
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:21 PM on November 15, 2005
"One man's dumb is another man's treasure."
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:21 PM on November 15, 2005
If only metatalk allowed the blink tag. They already don't allow some of the best tags
posted by holloway at 10:55 PM on November 15, 2005
posted by holloway at 10:55 PM on November 15, 2005
Damn, I swear the new kids have it so easy. Why don't we just throw fresh rose petals all over the place for them too? /kidding.
That's a pretty solid and sound set of guidelines. Should have to reread it at least once a year.
posted by fenriq at 10:58 PM on November 15, 2005
That's a pretty solid and sound set of guidelines. Should have to reread it at least once a year.
posted by fenriq at 10:58 PM on November 15, 2005
And my own dumbness has been whittled down a touch over the years, just by hanging out here.
Aw, ya big dummy... *grabs scarabic and applies noogies*
posted by y2karl at 11:00 PM on November 15, 2005
Aw, ya big dummy... *grabs scarabic and applies noogies*
posted by y2karl at 11:00 PM on November 15, 2005
I love crunch's user page. It definately is useful, and probably should be made into some kind of specially listed page.
I'm actually surprised that #1 never noticed it before. It was featured prominently a few times that I can think of.
Still, I'd have to say its design lacks flair. For that I suggest taz, jessamyn, or even my own.
posted by mystyk at 11:29 PM on November 15, 2005
I'm actually surprised that #1 never noticed it before. It was featured prominently a few times that I can think of.
Still, I'd have to say its design lacks flair. For that I suggest taz, jessamyn, or even my own.
posted by mystyk at 11:29 PM on November 15, 2005
crunchland is a MeFi God.
posted by homunculus at 11:56 PM on November 15, 2005
posted by homunculus at 11:56 PM on November 15, 2005
I'm sure mystyk would appreciate constructive criticism of his flair for design at this point.
cunchland endorses the unusual, the sincere and the spellcheck. Can't argue with that.
posted by NinjaPirate at 1:11 AM on November 16, 2005
cunchland endorses the unusual, the sincere and the spellcheck. Can't argue with that.
posted by NinjaPirate at 1:11 AM on November 16, 2005
The advice on searching by url to avoid double posting doesn't seem to work with the current search tool. I've just tried it with several FPP links and got nada.
posted by moonbiter at 2:12 AM on November 16, 2005
posted by moonbiter at 2:12 AM on November 16, 2005
posted by loquacious at 3:04 AM on November 16, 2005
crunchland should be promoted to a lower usernumber.
posted by Eideteker at 3:06 AM on November 16, 2005
posted by Eideteker at 3:06 AM on November 16, 2005
So you mean he should be denominated. I heard that can be a painful procedure.
Loved the user page, still do now
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 3:15 AM on November 16, 2005
Loved the user page, still do now
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 3:15 AM on November 16, 2005
I personally find fault with the thoery that people should go looking for stuff to post on MetaFilter. Much better to have a topic that you've come across or interests you and do a little research.
Apart from the introduction, though, I think the advice is sport on. y2karl - *please* see the bit about text formatting.
posted by nthdegx at 5:12 AM on November 16, 2005
Apart from the introduction, though, I think the advice is sport on. y2karl - *please* see the bit about text formatting.
posted by nthdegx at 5:12 AM on November 16, 2005
is anyone flaming out in this thread?
no?
oh, then I'll take my popcorn elsewhere.
posted by shmegegge at 5:29 AM on November 16, 2005
no?
oh, then I'll take my popcorn elsewhere.
posted by shmegegge at 5:29 AM on November 16, 2005
crunchland sent me a nasty email once. At least I think he did. My long-term memory's shot to shit.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:40 AM on November 16, 2005
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:40 AM on November 16, 2005
I agree that other than the first paragraph it is good stuff.
posted by terrapin at 5:58 AM on November 16, 2005
posted by terrapin at 5:58 AM on November 16, 2005
"It should be a permanent page on the site now that I think about it."
As soon as you do ... GOATSE.
You just know he's been planning it for years.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:32 AM on November 16, 2005
As soon as you do ... GOATSE.
You just know he's been planning it for years.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:32 AM on November 16, 2005
It should be a permanent page on the site now that I think about it
A link to it in the posting guidelines would be fab.
In the past, I have, on occasion, considered linking something and then decided not to out of fear of a double-post or linking to one of the unknown verboten sites; only to see that same site linked later, often to much acclaim.
Tell me about it! I reckon the best thing to do is just go for it and risk the consequences. I mean, those consequences are only a load of dickheads you've never heard of calling you a dickhead or, at the very worst, someone you like calling you a dickhead. (Um, perhaps I should follow my own advice and break out of my one mediocre post per year of membership rut.)
Not sure the 'list of sites considered mainstream' thing could ever work, though - there'll always be someone who pipes up and says, 'You're linking to ridiculouslyobscuresitewithtworeaders.com? Duh. Everyone will have seen that already!'
posted by jack_mo at 7:02 AM on November 16, 2005
A link to it in the posting guidelines would be fab.
In the past, I have, on occasion, considered linking something and then decided not to out of fear of a double-post or linking to one of the unknown verboten sites; only to see that same site linked later, often to much acclaim.
Tell me about it! I reckon the best thing to do is just go for it and risk the consequences. I mean, those consequences are only a load of dickheads you've never heard of calling you a dickhead or, at the very worst, someone you like calling you a dickhead. (Um, perhaps I should follow my own advice and break out of my one mediocre post per year of membership rut.)
Not sure the 'list of sites considered mainstream' thing could ever work, though - there'll always be someone who pipes up and says, 'You're linking to ridiculouslyobscuresitewithtworeaders.com? Duh. Everyone will have seen that already!'
posted by jack_mo at 7:02 AM on November 16, 2005
Aw, hell, stavros, we've all sent you a nasty e-mail or two. You get our goats.
posted by graventy at 7:53 AM on November 16, 2005
posted by graventy at 7:53 AM on November 16, 2005
I send Stavros anonymous love letters and roses but he never calls. Oh shit, maybe I should put my number in the card!
To the lurkers sitting on hot FPPs, run them by some of the members who have offered themselves as sounding boards. I've offered myself (email is in profile) and I know many others have.
If you're that worried, check it first and get some pointers on how to make it a better post. And no, I don't think my FPPs are extra special by any means. But I've definitely improved since the first ones (right, Matt?!).
posted by fenriq at 8:12 AM on November 16, 2005
To the lurkers sitting on hot FPPs, run them by some of the members who have offered themselves as sounding boards. I've offered myself (email is in profile) and I know many others have.
If you're that worried, check it first and get some pointers on how to make it a better post. And no, I don't think my FPPs are extra special by any means. But I've definitely improved since the first ones (right, Matt?!).
posted by fenriq at 8:12 AM on November 16, 2005
holloway writes "If only metatalk allowed the blink tag."
When did that happen?
Seriously though, I really hope blink doesn't go the way of marquee, it is quite useful on occasion in AskMe when you want to point out possible danger.
posted by Mitheral at 8:15 AM on November 16, 2005
When did that happen?
Seriously though, I really hope blink doesn't go the way of marquee, it is quite useful on occasion in AskMe when you want to point out possible danger.
posted by Mitheral at 8:15 AM on November 16, 2005
delmoi: "psst. Crunchland is matt's sockpuppet!"
Nah, matt's not as good a writer. Crunch has it down cold.
psst. dhoyt is .... damn, I guess that one's been done.
posted by mystyk at 9:04 AM on November 16, 2005
Nah, matt's not as good a writer. Crunch has it down cold.
psst. dhoyt is .... damn, I guess that one's been done.
posted by mystyk at 9:04 AM on November 16, 2005
Well, thanks very, very much for the shoutouts, all.
While I don't recall the nasty email to stavros either, I'm certain it wasn't unprovoked. And if it was unprovoked, I'm sure it was just one of those rare days when I cheeked my meds.
But seriously, I think going out and finding links is better than waiting for them to find you. The only links that come to me when I don't look for them are from my mother-in-law, and I don't think anyone is interested in the bunny joke of the day... But I do think that the days of finding a new link every day are over. I certainly don't have the patience or inclination to do it, and I don't suspect anyone else does, either. In truth, even now when I do go out searching for something to post, I have trouble coming up with something that hasn't already been posted. So many busy fingers, I guess.
And yeah, the part about the url search has become inaccurate, as someone further up mentioned, now that Matt disabled the internal search functions. I guess it's time to update that.
posted by crunchland at 10:09 AM on November 16, 2005
While I don't recall the nasty email to stavros either, I'm certain it wasn't unprovoked. And if it was unprovoked, I'm sure it was just one of those rare days when I cheeked my meds.
But seriously, I think going out and finding links is better than waiting for them to find you. The only links that come to me when I don't look for them are from my mother-in-law, and I don't think anyone is interested in the bunny joke of the day... But I do think that the days of finding a new link every day are over. I certainly don't have the patience or inclination to do it, and I don't suspect anyone else does, either. In truth, even now when I do go out searching for something to post, I have trouble coming up with something that hasn't already been posted. So many busy fingers, I guess.
And yeah, the part about the url search has become inaccurate, as someone further up mentioned, now that Matt disabled the internal search functions. I guess it's time to update that.
posted by crunchland at 10:09 AM on November 16, 2005
You can do internal link searches the exact same way by using the Post page instead of the Search.
Plop foo.com into the URL field of the posting page, with a title and a description of the link text (just put in alsdfklasdfj for now). Then hit preview, and it will do the very same search, since day one, for that url string.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:23 PM on November 16, 2005
Plop foo.com into the URL field of the posting page, with a title and a description of the link text (just put in alsdfklasdfj for now). Then hit preview, and it will do the very same search, since day one, for that url string.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:23 PM on November 16, 2005
Ok, cool. I updated it.
posted by crunchland at 3:40 PM on November 16, 2005
posted by crunchland at 3:40 PM on November 16, 2005
You can do internal link searches the exact same way by using the Post page instead of the Search.
Plop foo.com into the URL field of the posting page, with a title and a description of the link text (just put in alsdfklasdfj for now). Then hit preview, and it will do the very same search, since day one, for that url string.
posted by mathowie at 2:23 PM PST on November 16 [!]
Yes, that is true, but I will be the one who will instead of just searching links, ends up posting "alsdfklasdfj" to the front page.
posted by caddis at 7:14 PM on November 16, 2005
Plop foo.com into the URL field of the posting page, with a title and a description of the link text (just put in alsdfklasdfj for now). Then hit preview, and it will do the very same search, since day one, for that url string.
posted by mathowie at 2:23 PM PST on November 16 [!]
Yes, that is true, but I will be the one who will instead of just searching links, ends up posting "alsdfklasdfj" to the front page.
posted by caddis at 7:14 PM on November 16, 2005
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No but seriously, nice work.
posted by glenwood at 8:06 PM on November 15, 2005