[few comments removed - if you want a place for your "fuck America" rant, might I suggest MetaTalk? Seriously, it's like you don't even like MetaFilter.]
posted by jessamyn at 11:26 AM on November 6 [+] [!]
posted by Faze to Etiquette/Policy at 9:52 AM (564 comments total)
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The saga begins with an FPP about the rap music scene in New Zealand. Inside, somewhat down the thread, a New Zealander contributes a comment to the effect that he or she considers rap to be a form of cultural imperialism and that this is to be regretted.
Now I usually stay out of rap and hip hop threads because I simply don't like the music. But I do agree wholeheartedly with this New Zealander, about the cultural imperialism part, and so contributed my own comment to that effect -- adding my regret that rap music generally endorsed misogyny and perpetuated negative racial stereotypes.
Neither my, nor the New Zealander's comments were particularly anti-American as they were anti-cultural imperialism and anti-rap. My comment in particular expressed strong disapproval of misogyny and racial stereotyping as part of this cultural imperialism.
So it is, that while I certainly respect the right of Metafilter's monitors to exert some control over posts and comments, I believe that the deletion of my and the New Zealander's comments deprived Mefites of the benefit of a lively discussion of this topic and that the jessamyn might consider restoring these comments.
I would also like to say that jessamyn hurts my feelings by implying that I am anti-American, as I am 1.) deeply patriotic (indeed, patriotic enough to be suspicious of people who set themselves up as Joseph McCarthy-like judges of what is "un-American" and what is not), and 2.) I would never think "fuck America" much less post the words "fuck America" on Metafilter, not only out of respect for my country, but out of respect for the Metafilter community.
Which brings me to my final point, which is the suggestion that I don't even like Metafilter. This really hurts my feelings, because even a cursory survey of my posts and comments since 2001 would show you that while I often express strong opinions in colorful language, I never use profanity, I never make a personal or ad hominum attack on a fellow Mefite, do not engage in vendettas or flame wars, and generally try to be a good citizen of this excellent website and its intelligent and diverse community. The "Faze is a troll" meme that occasionally crops up is not based on any actual record of trollish behavior (boorish contrarianism, name calling, use of capital letters, flaming, profanity, racial or sexual remarks, putdowns, or efforts to make other posters or commentators feel bad about themselves) but derives from expressing certain opinions that are not all that far out of the mainstream (although I admit to being a little farther to the left than most in my support of vegetarianism, pacifism, and dislike of racial stereotypes, and perhaps a little to the right of some in my wish for a smaller government, and my sympathy for people who choose to believe in irrational things like creationism and are skeptical of some forms of authority).
I really would never go on writing about myself in this way, if it were only about the deletion of my own comment (I've been deleted once before. Something about Muslims that the monitor seemed not to like). But it also involved the deletion of someone else's perfectly reasonable comment, and so I take this opportunity to speak for both of us, and with all due respect, suggest that the removal of our comments might have been precipitous, and that it could be fair and appropriate to use a lighter hand in determining what is and what is not suitable for the eyes of the Metafilter community.