commentary-cutting link view pony? May 7, 2002 8:34 AM Subscribe
I don't know if this has been asked for before, or is even good for a "community" web site, but, does anyone think having an extra link from each front page post that cut's out all the commentary and just shows urls to sites that have been linked in the discussion - a way to look at sites without pre-judgements being put in your mind by the comments they are with?
Bregdan: do you mean separating links from comments, so you could sift through them before going on to read the comments? Like a link-list or a Memepool thingy apart from the thread?
If so, why not just click through all the links, without reading the comments and then go back to the thread?
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:49 AM on May 7, 2002
If so, why not just click through all the links, without reading the comments and then go back to the thread?
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:49 AM on May 7, 2002
Sounds like a job for a third-party site, using the XML feed and grep.
posted by rodii at 8:58 AM on May 7, 2002
posted by rodii at 8:58 AM on May 7, 2002
slashdot and kuro5hin do this, but I've never found it useful (see the sidebars on those sites that say "in this article" and list links).
Would you really find it useful?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:12 AM on May 7, 2002
Would you really find it useful?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:12 AM on May 7, 2002
MiguelCardosa: I mean sifting before reading comments. Going in fully briefed and with no preconceptions into the conversation is sometimes very useful.
Because I can't not read the page, by the time I have looked for a link, I have read the comment and that *might* colour the way I read that article.
Also, there are times that I don't read articles because I think that they might just be troll bait/shouting matches, but I would still like to look at the issues that people have raised. I see it more as a signal to noise filter (for want of a better term).
rodii: I know it can be done using grep/XML Feed and I might just do that but just wondered if anyone else thought it would be a good idea from the front page. If I do go down that route I might go the whole hog and use Summariser too.
posted by bregdan at 9:22 AM on May 7, 2002
Because I can't not read the page, by the time I have looked for a link, I have read the comment and that *might* colour the way I read that article.
Also, there are times that I don't read articles because I think that they might just be troll bait/shouting matches, but I would still like to look at the issues that people have raised. I see it more as a signal to noise filter (for want of a better term).
rodii: I know it can be done using grep/XML Feed and I might just do that but just wondered if anyone else thought it would be a good idea from the front page. If I do go down that route I might go the whole hog and use Summariser too.
posted by bregdan at 9:22 AM on May 7, 2002
Hi Matt, you posted between me starting my reply and pressing send.
I don't actually use kuro5shin or slashdot on a daily basis (I think I have a user account somewhere lol) so I had to go and take a look at them.
My conclusion is that yes, I personally like the feature, but I don't like the way that either of those sites have implemented it - it's lost down the page. I personally would prefer one more link on the main page under each article
posted by whoever at 9:12AM PST - 3 comments (1 New) - Related Links - Post a Comment
so that it's a choice for users who would like to use them - sometimes I just don't have the time to read all the comments but would like to see if there are any links that I can look at later (and I suppose I could just look at MeFi at that time :-) )
I must admit that I think MetaFilter is the best of breed as it is and am not gonna stomp my feet over a marginal improvement (for me).
posted by bregdan at 9:41 AM on May 7, 2002
I don't actually use kuro5shin or slashdot on a daily basis (I think I have a user account somewhere lol) so I had to go and take a look at them.
My conclusion is that yes, I personally like the feature, but I don't like the way that either of those sites have implemented it - it's lost down the page. I personally would prefer one more link on the main page under each article
posted by whoever at 9:12AM PST - 3 comments (1 New) - Related Links - Post a Comment
so that it's a choice for users who would like to use them - sometimes I just don't have the time to read all the comments but would like to see if there are any links that I can look at later (and I suppose I could just look at MeFi at that time :-) )
I must admit that I think MetaFilter is the best of breed as it is and am not gonna stomp my feet over a marginal improvement (for me).
posted by bregdan at 9:41 AM on May 7, 2002
I like the idea, personally, specifically in the context of bregdan's example above. Maybe make it a further choice by having it off by default -- user config file allows you to turn it on.
Or is that unfair to non-members? It just strikes me as potentially confusing to have the default layout of a post change.
posted by cortex at 9:56 AM on May 7, 2002
Or is that unfair to non-members? It just strikes me as potentially confusing to have the default layout of a post change.
posted by cortex at 9:56 AM on May 7, 2002
go here, scroll down to a bookmarklet called List All Links, Add it to your links bar and use as desired.
posted by willnot at 10:02 AM on May 7, 2002
posted by willnot at 10:02 AM on May 7, 2002
Terrific for those who want it -- myself, I like my links with a little context. Which is what my fellow users, ideally, provide. I frequently don't spend time (especially at the office!) clicking on links without an idea of where I'm going.
posted by BT at 10:27 AM on May 7, 2002
posted by BT at 10:27 AM on May 7, 2002
Well, I do this for the front page of MeFi (and Slashdot, and others) on memigo. I could drill down to the comment pages as well, but there are issues of trust and freshness...
posted by costas at 10:28 AM on May 7, 2002
posted by costas at 10:28 AM on May 7, 2002
willnot: Thinking about it - I do have a list all links in my context menus - I'd never thought of doing that. What a dummy. I wouldn't mind a "List All Links in Target" though.
cortex: I was thinking about user config for it too - I wouldn't have thought it would be that confusing to change the post layout - I aim my mouse at the word - I don't care where the link was yesterday - and inch left or right wouldn't make much difference IMO.
BT: I normally like at least a little context with my links - but sometimes I just like an "I feel lucky" kinda day (or want to look at the user documentary after I've looked at the links). I'm not allowed to use the internet for any sites where I work, not even MetaFilter.
costas: I'm a memigo user - great page although I usually forget to log in DOH!
posted by bregdan at 10:59 AM on May 7, 2002
cortex: I was thinking about user config for it too - I wouldn't have thought it would be that confusing to change the post layout - I aim my mouse at the word - I don't care where the link was yesterday - and inch left or right wouldn't make much difference IMO.
BT: I normally like at least a little context with my links - but sometimes I just like an "I feel lucky" kinda day (or want to look at the user documentary after I've looked at the links). I'm not allowed to use the internet for any sites where I work, not even MetaFilter.
costas: I'm a memigo user - great page although I usually forget to log in DOH!
posted by bregdan at 10:59 AM on May 7, 2002
Would you really find it useful?
It's a nice touch, but I don't think I've ever used those without coming across the link in the context of the discussion.
posted by sudama at 11:20 AM on May 7, 2002
It's a nice touch, but I don't think I've ever used those without coming across the link in the context of the discussion.
posted by sudama at 11:20 AM on May 7, 2002
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posted by bregdan at 8:37 AM on May 7, 2002