Danger! Danger! March 4, 2005 12:07 PM Subscribe
Danger, Matt Haughey! Danger! Danger!
Good point. Flagged it myself, and now, I've flagged this post too. But, y'know, I'd prefer a wreck in here than over there.
posted by armoured-ant at 12:16 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by armoured-ant at 12:16 PM on March 4, 2005
third
posted by mervin_shnegwood at 12:17 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by mervin_shnegwood at 12:17 PM on March 4, 2005
Can we give it a few minutes, though? I'm at the point of driving slow on my way past with the window wound down, holding everyone up behind me. My mouth might very well be open.
posted by nthdegx at 12:17 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by nthdegx at 12:17 PM on March 4, 2005
You know, there have been three recent instances where someone went apeshit on the site, then a week later apologized for being drunk. I think this might be a fourth datapoint in the trend.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:20 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:20 PM on March 4, 2005
CRUCIFY! GIVE US BARABUS!
You know, there have been three recent instances where someone went apeshit on the site, then a week later apologized for being drunk. I think this might be a fourth datapoint in the trend.
Mothers Against Drunk Posting doesn't make for a snappy acronym, though.
posted by Ryvar at 12:21 PM on March 4, 2005
You know, there have been three recent instances where someone went apeshit on the site, then a week later apologized for being drunk. I think this might be a fourth datapoint in the trend.
Mothers Against Drunk Posting doesn't make for a snappy acronym, though.
posted by Ryvar at 12:21 PM on March 4, 2005
On a *slightly* related theme -- are FPPs linking to MetaTalk and Ask MetaFilter posts and comments completely out of bounds? I've been sort of tempted by a "best of" post. Same for profile pages. Has it been done?
posted by nthdegx at 12:21 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by nthdegx at 12:21 PM on March 4, 2005
I'd prefer a wreck in here than over there.
Two wrecks are better than one.
Three instances of absurd drunken posting in five years? I don't know if that's good or not.
posted by Arch Stanton at 12:22 PM on March 4, 2005
Two wrecks are better than one.
Three instances of absurd drunken posting in five years? I don't know if that's good or not.
posted by Arch Stanton at 12:22 PM on March 4, 2005
On a serious note, though, I really really hope Dejah sees this thread because I'd love to know WTF is going on.
posted by Ryvar at 12:23 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by Ryvar at 12:23 PM on March 4, 2005
armoured-ant, your thread-phrasing is so visually animated. well done for an unexpected Friday chuckle.
posted by naxosaxur at 12:24 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by naxosaxur at 12:24 PM on March 4, 2005
Mothers Against Drunk Posting doesn't make for a snappy acronym, though.
"Dog, you check that shit on the Em Eff?"
"Hell yeah, that was some mad p!"
posted by cortex at 12:25 PM on March 4, 2005
"Dog, you check that shit on the Em Eff?"
"Hell yeah, that was some mad p!"
posted by cortex at 12:25 PM on March 4, 2005
Three instances of absurd drunken posting in five years?
Dude, I'm talking in the past two weeks.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:26 PM on March 4, 2005
Dude, I'm talking in the past two weeks.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:26 PM on March 4, 2005
Yeah, sorry about that, Matt. Who did the other one, though?
posted by nthdegx at 12:27 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by nthdegx at 12:27 PM on March 4, 2005
Has it been done?
nthdegx, you might be interested in this.
posted by Specklet at 12:28 PM on March 4, 2005
nthdegx, you might be interested in this.
posted by Specklet at 12:28 PM on March 4, 2005
Drinking and linking has been a popular pastime amongst MeFites for a long time. I've had my share.
posted by eyeballkid at 12:29 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by eyeballkid at 12:29 PM on March 4, 2005
"had done my share."
Man, maybe I should drink first.
posted by eyeballkid at 12:30 PM on March 4, 2005
Man, maybe I should drink first.
posted by eyeballkid at 12:30 PM on March 4, 2005
Dude, I'm talking in the past two weeks.
Wow, just.... wow.
posted by Arch Stanton at 12:30 PM on March 4, 2005
Wow, just.... wow.
posted by Arch Stanton at 12:30 PM on March 4, 2005
That's completely out-of-control and, no, other people wouldn't do the same thing.
However, the accusation dejah420 made (sincerely, thuogh probably wrongly, I think) against mcgraw is pretty serious, in my opinion (not legall, but morally, I think—we'd all think pretty badly of mcgraw if we believed it to be true); and so his overreaction to it, assuming it was false, is pretty understandable. That doesn't make it right, but if someone falsely claimed I was a stalker or that I tried to sabtotage someone's job, I'd be extremely mortified and generally freaked-out.
I did think it was odd, and interesting, how in the meta thread mcgraw was immediately apologetic and even-tempered and yet, nevertheless, completely went nuts (for no good reason, in my opinin) over dejah420's comments. Although, I wonder if the fact that most of us are pretty familiar with her and know that she's a notably nice and even-tempered person didn't cause us to read her comment more benignly than perhaps we could expect of mcgraw. But the whole thing was sort of weird. McGraw comes off, in the end, as someone with not the best judgment, though perhaps well-intentioned.
On Preview: what ryvar said. Because I'm curious. Or nosy. But I wonder what actually is going on.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:30 PM on March 4, 2005
However, the accusation dejah420 made (sincerely, thuogh probably wrongly, I think) against mcgraw is pretty serious, in my opinion (not legall, but morally, I think—we'd all think pretty badly of mcgraw if we believed it to be true); and so his overreaction to it, assuming it was false, is pretty understandable. That doesn't make it right, but if someone falsely claimed I was a stalker or that I tried to sabtotage someone's job, I'd be extremely mortified and generally freaked-out.
I did think it was odd, and interesting, how in the meta thread mcgraw was immediately apologetic and even-tempered and yet, nevertheless, completely went nuts (for no good reason, in my opinin) over dejah420's comments. Although, I wonder if the fact that most of us are pretty familiar with her and know that she's a notably nice and even-tempered person didn't cause us to read her comment more benignly than perhaps we could expect of mcgraw. But the whole thing was sort of weird. McGraw comes off, in the end, as someone with not the best judgment, though perhaps well-intentioned.
On Preview: what ryvar said. Because I'm curious. Or nosy. But I wonder what actually is going on.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:30 PM on March 4, 2005
The MeFi crowd’s been drinking
And the bar stools are all on fire
And all the newspapers were just fooling
And the ash-trays have retired
And I've got a feeling that the MeFi crowd’s been drinking
It's just a hunch
The MeFi crowd’s been drinking and they're going to their lunch
And the MeFi crowd’s been drinking
Not me, not me, The MeFi crowd’s been drinking
Not me
posted by mr.marx at 12:31 PM on March 4, 2005
And the bar stools are all on fire
And all the newspapers were just fooling
And the ash-trays have retired
And I've got a feeling that the MeFi crowd’s been drinking
It's just a hunch
The MeFi crowd’s been drinking and they're going to their lunch
And the MeFi crowd’s been drinking
Not me, not me, The MeFi crowd’s been drinking
Not me
posted by mr.marx at 12:31 PM on March 4, 2005
Can I claim to be drunk with my double post this morning? I was too drunk to spell "synaesthetes" correctly in the search. Wayyyy to drunk...
posted by Quartermass at 12:31 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by Quartermass at 12:31 PM on March 4, 2005
The best part is that no one would ever have seen the accusation until he posted it on the front page, and now everyone knows he's a stalker.
posted by smackfu at 12:33 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by smackfu at 12:33 PM on March 4, 2005
However, the accusation dejah420 made (sincerely, thuogh probably wrongly, I think)
So, who'd want to frame mcgraw?
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 12:35 PM on March 4, 2005
So, who'd want to frame mcgraw?
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 12:35 PM on March 4, 2005
Does anyone have any Friday fun flash? I need to get the taste of that FPP outta my mouth...
posted by Specklet at 12:36 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by Specklet at 12:36 PM on March 4, 2005
I'm with Ryvar and EB. As strange as the last hour has been, someone emailing Dejah pretending to be mcgraw is an Officially Bad ThingTM. I am curious as to double-you tee eff is going on, as well.
posted by gramschmidt at 12:36 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by gramschmidt at 12:36 PM on March 4, 2005
So, who'd want to frame mcgraw?
Has anyone talked to Babalooie?
posted by jonmc at 12:38 PM on March 4, 2005
Has anyone talked to Babalooie?
posted by jonmc at 12:38 PM on March 4, 2005
I just looked out the window and saw a dude driving down the road on a riding lawnmower.
wait, it's my dad!
posted by mcsweetie at 12:38 PM on March 4, 2005
wait, it's my dad!
posted by mcsweetie at 12:38 PM on March 4, 2005
This is a job for El Kabong!
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 12:39 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 12:39 PM on March 4, 2005
That doesn't make it right, but if someone falsely claimed I was a stalker or that I tried to sabtotage someone's job, I'd be extremely mortified and generally freaked-out.
If someone claimed that I was a stalker I think my response would be something along the lines of "Pfffft. Welcome to the Internet." On IRC, regardless of what channel you're in it's pretty common to ask people about their location based on the geographical abbreviations in their hostmask. 'Stalking' on the Internet is like swimming in the ocean. Everything you say can and will be used against you at any time. YOUR COMPUTER MAY BE BROADCASTING YOUR IP ADDRESS - it sort of goes hand in hand when dealing with a medium composed of pure information.
If someone claims I actually attempted to wreck their job (although I've used the threat a few times to shut people up when nothing else got through to them), though, that would be a whole different can of worms. That's money, and money makes things get nasty very, very quickly.
posted by Ryvar at 12:41 PM on March 4, 2005
If someone claimed that I was a stalker I think my response would be something along the lines of "Pfffft. Welcome to the Internet." On IRC, regardless of what channel you're in it's pretty common to ask people about their location based on the geographical abbreviations in their hostmask. 'Stalking' on the Internet is like swimming in the ocean. Everything you say can and will be used against you at any time. YOUR COMPUTER MAY BE BROADCASTING YOUR IP ADDRESS - it sort of goes hand in hand when dealing with a medium composed of pure information.
If someone claims I actually attempted to wreck their job (although I've used the threat a few times to shut people up when nothing else got through to them), though, that would be a whole different can of worms. That's money, and money makes things get nasty very, very quickly.
posted by Ryvar at 12:41 PM on March 4, 2005
I am curious as to double-you tee eff is going on, as well.
Someone is being a dick, it remains to be seen who that someone is, but the dickishness is not in dispute.
What any unholy pile of cocks you mortals be lyin' around in.
posted by Divine_Wino at 12:42 PM on March 4, 2005
Someone is being a dick, it remains to be seen who that someone is, but the dickishness is not in dispute.
What any unholy pile of cocks you mortals be lyin' around in.
posted by Divine_Wino at 12:42 PM on March 4, 2005
This is great. I think I've finally learned to stop worrying and love the drama.
Maybe a drama hound tattoo would be appropriate.
posted by anapestic at 12:45 PM on March 4, 2005
Maybe a drama hound tattoo would be appropriate.
posted by anapestic at 12:45 PM on March 4, 2005
nthdegx, you might be interested in this.
Why, Specklet? I'm familiar with that, and I don't think it's close to what I was talking about.
posted by nthdegx at 12:50 PM on March 4, 2005
Why, Specklet? I'm familiar with that, and I don't think it's close to what I was talking about.
posted by nthdegx at 12:50 PM on March 4, 2005
'Stalking' on the Internet is like swimming in the ocean.
If your ocean is 6" deep and has lots of raw sewage floating around in it.
posted by m@ at 12:51 PM on March 4, 2005
If your ocean is 6" deep and has lots of raw sewage floating around in it.
posted by m@ at 12:51 PM on March 4, 2005
I did think it was odd, and interesting, how in the meta thread mcgraw was immediately apologetic and even-tempered and yet, nevertheless, completely went nuts (for no good reason, in my opinin) over dejah420's comments.
Yeah, it's real 'interesting' - just like how mcgraw posted that turd of an FPP yesterday and then as soon as it got deleted posted a Meta thread about it so we could all discus it some more.
Mcgraw plays this crowd like a goddamn violin. wake up.
posted by FeetOfClay at 12:56 PM on March 4, 2005
Yeah, it's real 'interesting' - just like how mcgraw posted that turd of an FPP yesterday and then as soon as it got deleted posted a Meta thread about it so we could all discus it some more.
Mcgraw plays this crowd like a goddamn violin. wake up.
posted by FeetOfClay at 12:56 PM on March 4, 2005
This post was deleted for the following reason: jesus christ. take a week off, mcgraw
Hysterical, and absolutely good advice.
posted by agregoli at 1:04 PM on March 4, 2005
Hysterical, and absolutely good advice.
posted by agregoli at 1:04 PM on March 4, 2005
wake up.
Come on!
Uggh!
Come on, although ya try to discredit
Ya still never edit
The needle, I'll thread it
Radically poetic
Standin' with the fury that they had in '66
And like E-Double I'm mad
Still knee-deep in the system's shit
Hoover, he was a body remover
I'll give ya a dose
But it'll never come close
To the rage built up inside of me
Fist in the air, in the land of hypocrisy
The Neo flies off into the sky and IT WAS SO TOTALLY AWESOME . . .
posted by Ryvar at 1:14 PM on March 4, 2005
Come on!
Uggh!
Come on, although ya try to discredit
Ya still never edit
The needle, I'll thread it
Radically poetic
Standin' with the fury that they had in '66
And like E-Double I'm mad
Still knee-deep in the system's shit
Hoover, he was a body remover
I'll give ya a dose
But it'll never come close
To the rage built up inside of me
Fist in the air, in the land of hypocrisy
The Neo flies off into the sky and IT WAS SO TOTALLY AWESOME . . .
posted by Ryvar at 1:14 PM on March 4, 2005
Aww man, don' hol' that post against me man, I was totally faded man.
posted by Hildago at 1:36 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by Hildago at 1:36 PM on March 4, 2005
Yes, there was a mail, purportedly from McGraw that was sent to the company link I used to have in my profile. That it was someone else strikes me as improbable, considering that the email arrived mere minutes after he went off in the *other* meta thread.
However, I'm not going to do the computer forensics that it would take to find a real answer, because frankly it would require a legal discovery from the ISP...which would involve paying attorneys, and it's not that important to me because I own the company and thus complaints about me (and my "use of company time to post pornographic and insulting comments on the internet", and tidbits about my past posting history both here and on my personal sites) mean that I'll just have to discipline myself. (Bad Dejah, no biscuit! A spanking, a spanking!)
That said however, out of respect for Matt and peace on the site, I've removed the verbiage and the link to that disaster of a thread from my user profile. (Although, I did it before I knew he'd published a link to my profile page on the blue....and had I known, I might have just let the stalker appellation stand...cause dudes, that's freaking weird, that is. )
However, as a result of that post, I have decided to remove links to any of my sites where my real name, real location and real identity might be ascertained, and I'll just leave it that way until anonymous hate mail and comments on my sites cease.
posted by dejah420 at 1:42 PM on March 4, 2005
However, I'm not going to do the computer forensics that it would take to find a real answer, because frankly it would require a legal discovery from the ISP...which would involve paying attorneys, and it's not that important to me because I own the company and thus complaints about me (and my "use of company time to post pornographic and insulting comments on the internet", and tidbits about my past posting history both here and on my personal sites) mean that I'll just have to discipline myself. (Bad Dejah, no biscuit! A spanking, a spanking!)
That said however, out of respect for Matt and peace on the site, I've removed the verbiage and the link to that disaster of a thread from my user profile. (Although, I did it before I knew he'd published a link to my profile page on the blue....and had I known, I might have just let the stalker appellation stand...cause dudes, that's freaking weird, that is. )
However, as a result of that post, I have decided to remove links to any of my sites where my real name, real location and real identity might be ascertained, and I'll just leave it that way until anonymous hate mail and comments on my sites cease.
posted by dejah420 at 1:42 PM on March 4, 2005
Just flag the darn thing. Click click. Now that we're here, though, I'd like to request that "train wreck" be added to the flag categories, please.
Oh...and aye to that idea. :)
posted by dejah420 at 1:44 PM on March 4, 2005
Oh...and aye to that idea. :)
posted by dejah420 at 1:44 PM on March 4, 2005
You can't make fun of a train wreck from within a train wreck, dejah, surely.
posted by nthdegx at 1:48 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by nthdegx at 1:48 PM on March 4, 2005
Sounds good mr. marx, but allow me to build upon that:
The Mefite has been drinking, mathowie is asleep
And the images weren't Safe For Work, the Jrun has to take a leak
And mcgraw needs a week off, and the frontpage looks like a prison break
And the tagline's out of cigarettes, and the preview button's on the make
And the Mefite has been drinking
And the ponies are all freezing, and the search box's blind in one eye
And he can't see out of the other
And the newbie's got a hearing aid, and he showed up with his mother
And the Mefite has been drinking
As the flag link is a sumo wrestler cream-puff Casper Milquetoast
And the poster is a mental midget with the i.q. of a fence post
’Cause the Mefite has been drinking
And you can't search the archive with a Geiger counter
And she hates you and your friends and you just can't post without her
And the title field is drooling, and the guidelines are on fire
And the newsfilter posts were fooling, and the <10ks have retired
’Cause the Mefite has been drinking
Not me
It even conforms to meter, and in most cases even to rhyme and/or alliteration of the original! I'm such a geek.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 1:59 PM on March 4, 2005 [1 favorite]
The Mefite has been drinking, mathowie is asleep
And the images weren't Safe For Work, the Jrun has to take a leak
And mcgraw needs a week off, and the frontpage looks like a prison break
And the tagline's out of cigarettes, and the preview button's on the make
And the Mefite has been drinking
And the ponies are all freezing, and the search box's blind in one eye
And he can't see out of the other
And the newbie's got a hearing aid, and he showed up with his mother
And the Mefite has been drinking
As the flag link is a sumo wrestler cream-puff Casper Milquetoast
And the poster is a mental midget with the i.q. of a fence post
’Cause the Mefite has been drinking
And you can't search the archive with a Geiger counter
And she hates you and your friends and you just can't post without her
And the title field is drooling, and the guidelines are on fire
And the newsfilter posts were fooling, and the <10ks have retired
’Cause the Mefite has been drinking
Not me
It even conforms to meter, and in most cases even to rhyme and/or alliteration of the original! I'm such a geek.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 1:59 PM on March 4, 2005 [1 favorite]
quee funsar!
posted by Hands of Manos at 2:00 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by Hands of Manos at 2:00 PM on March 4, 2005
You can't make fun of a train wreck from within a train wreck, dejah, surely. posted by nthdegx
I dunno...perhaps if the synergy allowed for me to multitask while achieving maximum velocity and veridicality? No? Ok, you're probably right. ;)
*hugs winnie* posted by quonsar
Awh, you big ol' snuggle bunny.
goodnewsfortheinsane, that's freaking amazing! Wow!
posted by dejah420 at 2:12 PM on March 4, 2005
I dunno...perhaps if the synergy allowed for me to multitask while achieving maximum velocity and veridicality? No? Ok, you're probably right. ;)
*hugs winnie* posted by quonsar
Awh, you big ol' snuggle bunny.
goodnewsfortheinsane, that's freaking amazing! Wow!
posted by dejah420 at 2:12 PM on March 4, 2005
Thanks, I was reluctant to post because of the nature of the topic and all, but I tried to keep things light a bit.
I'm assuming you're not being sarcastic.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 2:20 PM on March 4, 2005
I'm assuming you're not being sarcastic.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 2:20 PM on March 4, 2005
i think matt needs to take all of us to Disney World for a vacation.
has mcgraw ever done this before? are you sure it was him, dejah?
posted by amberglow at 2:28 PM on March 4, 2005
has mcgraw ever done this before? are you sure it was him, dejah?
posted by amberglow at 2:28 PM on March 4, 2005
*sings along with a terrible whisky-voice*
goodnewsfortheinsane, my SO is going to hate you for the rest of this evening. ;) Thanks!
Wiggy story dejah, just weird. Who knows if it's mcgraw if there are no IP numbers to compare, say between the header in the email and the one mcgraw has when persuing metafilter.....
posted by dabitch at 2:38 PM on March 4, 2005
goodnewsfortheinsane, my SO is going to hate you for the rest of this evening. ;) Thanks!
Wiggy story dejah, just weird. Who knows if it's mcgraw if there are no IP numbers to compare, say between the header in the email and the one mcgraw has when persuing metafilter.....
posted by dabitch at 2:38 PM on March 4, 2005
*hugs dejah, his favorite MeFi user ever and personal candidate for President of the USA*
posted by matteo at 2:49 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by matteo at 2:49 PM on March 4, 2005
"The MeFite Has Been Drinking" should be sung at every meet-up!
posted by me3dia at 3:05 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by me3dia at 3:05 PM on March 4, 2005
thank you, Metafilter, for perpetuating the impression that we're all a bunch of psychotic, cockeyed lunatics, off their meds. Keep up the good work!
posted by crunchland at 3:23 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by crunchland at 3:23 PM on March 4, 2005
Holy moly, dejah got mugged? wtf? Of all people - it makes no sense. Hope me, I'm a-skeered now - the center cannot hold.
/ fixes up some nice tea and cookies for dejah.
posted by madamjujujive at 3:36 PM on March 4, 2005
/ fixes up some nice tea and cookies for dejah.
posted by madamjujujive at 3:36 PM on March 4, 2005
You know to be fair mcgraw cant defend himself here Matt. To be labled a stalker is a serious claim. Dejah im not denying your claims but before he is tarnished with the scarlett letter of S for stalking we might want to hear him out.
just saying...
posted by Dreamghost at 5:25 PM on March 4, 2005
just saying...
posted by Dreamghost at 5:25 PM on March 4, 2005
So basically Dreamghost, is it would be okay for me to act like a total ass (say, bringing up my dirty laundry in a FPP) and then escape the well-deserved time-out because I should be able to defend myself against accusations of being a total ass for an entirely different reason?
Nah. See you in a week, mcgraw.
posted by grouse at 5:55 PM on March 4, 2005
Nah. See you in a week, mcgraw.
posted by grouse at 5:55 PM on March 4, 2005
You obviously didn't follow the link.
posted by eyeballkid at 5:56 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by eyeballkid at 5:56 PM on March 4, 2005
(dreamghost, i mean)
posted by eyeballkid at 5:56 PM on March 4, 2005
posted by eyeballkid at 5:56 PM on March 4, 2005
Mcgraw may have been an ass but I can understand being desperate to clear one's name. He acted with undue haste and who here hasn't done that at some point in their life?
That being said, the correct thing to do in this situation would've been for him to ask someone on IRC to create a suitable MeTa post for him detailing this explanation. Given the seriousness of the situation and the lack of resulting marring the frontpage I'm sure Matt would have understood circumvention of the post per one week rule in this special case.
Something for people to consider if they ever find themselves in a situation like this.
posted by Ryvar at 6:10 PM on March 4, 2005
That being said, the correct thing to do in this situation would've been for him to ask someone on IRC to create a suitable MeTa post for him detailing this explanation. Given the seriousness of the situation and the lack of resulting marring the frontpage I'm sure Matt would have understood circumvention of the post per one week rule in this special case.
Something for people to consider if they ever find themselves in a situation like this.
posted by Ryvar at 6:10 PM on March 4, 2005
This thread is closed to new comments.
posted by iconomy at 12:12 PM on March 4, 2005