AskMe posts deleted, not discussed July 21, 2006 1:32 AM Subscribe
Some posts to AskMe about tailgating and driving etiquette were deleted from this thread. Discuss amongst yourselves...
Does alt-f do something other than bring up the file menu in non-windows machines? I've seen previous references on here, but it's a bit confusing since I'm a windows user.
posted by antifuse at 1:55 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by antifuse at 1:55 AM on July 21, 2006
Oh, and I didn't think this was a callout, I thought it was a call to bring the tailgating etiquette discussion into this thread. Which I'm going to do:
Canadian drivers seem to be particularly bad at tailgating, maybe because they're used to doing it in blowing snow, when it can actually be safer than keeping so far back you can't see the guy's lights in front of you.
Yes, because in Canada, it snows 90% of the time! Yeesh, for somebody who is so close to Toronto, you'd think YOU would know that realistically, the days when you're driving in blowing snow are limited to what, maybe 20/year? And I'm being extremely generous in that figure.
posted by antifuse at 2:00 AM on July 21, 2006
Canadian drivers seem to be particularly bad at tailgating, maybe because they're used to doing it in blowing snow, when it can actually be safer than keeping so far back you can't see the guy's lights in front of you.
Yes, because in Canada, it snows 90% of the time! Yeesh, for somebody who is so close to Toronto, you'd think YOU would know that realistically, the days when you're driving in blowing snow are limited to what, maybe 20/year? And I'm being extremely generous in that figure.
posted by antifuse at 2:00 AM on July 21, 2006
sorry antifuse, it's just so many things just need a flag it response that alt-f is my own idiotic shorthand for such.
posted by edgeways at 2:02 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by edgeways at 2:02 AM on July 21, 2006
[a few comments removed, this is clearly a question about bumperstickers, not etiquette - take it to metatalk or email otherwise]
posted by jessamyn at 5:24 AM PST on July 20
Why the hostility?
posted by evil holiday magic at 2:09 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by jessamyn at 5:24 AM PST on July 20
Why the hostility?
posted by evil holiday magic at 2:09 AM on July 21, 2006
evil holiday magic, you and I obviously have diametrically opposite positions on the meaning of hostility. I could have sworn that Jessamyn's comment would be defined on a public internet noticeboard as politeness.
posted by peacay at 3:04 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by peacay at 3:04 AM on July 21, 2006
peacay, I think he's referring to the reaction to this thread even though the door was clearly opened to it by Jess' comment, not her good-cop admin style.
posted by NinjaTadpole at 4:42 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by NinjaTadpole at 4:42 AM on July 21, 2006
Faint of Butt writes "I'd prefer not to."
Bartelby is that you?
posted by OmieWise at 5:37 AM on July 21, 2006
Bartelby is that you?
posted by OmieWise at 5:37 AM on July 21, 2006
I'd like to ask the panel what they think about the viability of cereal production in the EEC.
posted by sciurus at 5:44 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by sciurus at 5:44 AM on July 21, 2006
Yeesh, for somebody who is so close to Toronto, you'd think YOU would know that realistically, the days when you're driving in blowing snow are limited to what, maybe 20/year?
Torontonians have problems with snow, antifuse.
/Western snark, apologies for the horrific colour scheme of that page.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:35 AM on July 21, 2006
Torontonians have problems with snow, antifuse.
/Western snark, apologies for the horrific colour scheme of that page.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:35 AM on July 21, 2006
Torontonians have problems with snow, antifuse.
No, our batshitinsane mayor at the time (the same one who told my best friend the reporter, as he was on his way to Africa to try and garner goodwill for our Olympic campaign, that he was afraid of ending up in a pot with cannibals dancing around him) had problems running the city. At any rate, that's neither here nor there as far as "having to drive in blowing snow all the time" is concerned. :)
posted by antifuse at 6:44 AM on July 21, 2006
No, our batshitinsane mayor at the time (the same one who told my best friend the reporter, as he was on his way to Africa to try and garner goodwill for our Olympic campaign, that he was afraid of ending up in a pot with cannibals dancing around him) had problems running the city. At any rate, that's neither here nor there as far as "having to drive in blowing snow all the time" is concerned. :)
posted by antifuse at 6:44 AM on July 21, 2006
Why the hostility?
Just guessing, but:
1) MeTa callouts that have the appearance of being whiny ("waah, comments were deleted") are rarely received well. I realize whining may not have been your intention, but it's your responsibility to make that clear. We can't read your mind.
2) "Discuss amongst yourselves" is stupid and overused and everybody's sick of it and nobody wants to hear it. If you know what I mean.
posted by languagehat at 6:47 AM on July 21, 2006
Just guessing, but:
1) MeTa callouts that have the appearance of being whiny ("waah, comments were deleted") are rarely received well. I realize whining may not have been your intention, but it's your responsibility to make that clear. We can't read your mind.
2) "Discuss amongst yourselves" is stupid and overused and everybody's sick of it and nobody wants to hear it. If you know what I mean.
posted by languagehat at 6:47 AM on July 21, 2006
So much for my plans to turn the world against Hogtown:).
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:56 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:56 AM on July 21, 2006
languagehat is "just sayin."
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 7:20 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 7:20 AM on July 21, 2006
IKSHO (In KevinSkomsvold's Humble Opinion). YMMV LOL!!!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:26 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 8:26 AM on July 21, 2006
More importantly, what is the "Alt-F" thing about?
Anyone? Is this some mysterious and obscure Mac thing? For Windows and Linux Alt-F just opens the File menu. I dug through the Wiki and the Faq and searched through the metatalk archives but didn't find anything.
posted by octothorpe at 9:35 AM on July 21, 2006
Anyone? Is this some mysterious and obscure Mac thing? For Windows and Linux Alt-F just opens the File menu. I dug through the Wiki and the Faq and searched through the metatalk archives but didn't find anything.
posted by octothorpe at 9:35 AM on July 21, 2006
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-RightClick-F turns off the internets.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Start.
posted by blue_beetle at 9:43 AM on July 21, 2006
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Start.
posted by blue_beetle at 9:43 AM on July 21, 2006
My keyboard has no Start button :(
posted by Roger Dodger at 9:54 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by Roger Dodger at 9:54 AM on July 21, 2006
Alt (Option)-f on a Mac: ƒ
posted by cillit bang at 9:57 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by cillit bang at 9:57 AM on July 21, 2006
So is the consensus that tailgating while not wearing a seatbelt and going through an intersection monitored by a red-light camera a good thing or a bad thing? All these snarky comments have me confused.
posted by TedW at 10:00 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by TedW at 10:00 AM on July 21, 2006
The consensus is that tailgating is awesome, so long as you have enough bratts and beer.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:05 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:05 AM on July 21, 2006
If I don't have enough beer I can't handle my brats at all.
posted by OmieWise at 10:09 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 10:09 AM on July 21, 2006
That was great! I missed it the first time 'round.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:40 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:40 AM on July 21, 2006
I think it's supposed to be Alt-F4.
posted by hydrophonic at 10:48 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by hydrophonic at 10:48 AM on July 21, 2006
You kids and your alt lifestyles!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:52 AM on July 21, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:52 AM on July 21, 2006
take it to metatalk or email otherwise
jess, maybe just say "take it to email"? To not encourage MetaTalk threads for every AskMe derail?
posted by mediareport at 7:15 PM on July 21, 2006
jess, maybe just say "take it to email"? To not encourage MetaTalk threads for every AskMe derail?
posted by mediareport at 7:15 PM on July 21, 2006
Am I the only person who often has the nearly uncontrollable urge to slam on my brakes when I'm being tailgated? But then, I really hate tailgaters.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:35 PM on July 21, 2006
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:35 PM on July 21, 2006
languagehat, I'm not familiar with "callout" or this "Alt-F" command, or much of the shorthand being used. I didn't have any posts deleted from the other thread, and was just interested in hearing other people's off-the-other-topic responses to the problem of tailgating. A number of friends and relatives have been involved in accidents related to this behavior, so it's of interest to me. Or it was.
You guys have totally ruined the subject of tailgating for me.
posted by evil holiday magic at 8:12 PM on July 21, 2006
You guys have totally ruined the subject of tailgating for me.
posted by evil holiday magic at 8:12 PM on July 21, 2006
Am I the only person who often has the nearly uncontrollable urge to slam on my brakes when I'm being tailgated? But then, I really hate tailgaters.
Maybe they're just drafting.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:17 PM on July 21, 2006
Maybe they're just drafting.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:17 PM on July 21, 2006
2) "Discuss amongst yourselves" is stupid and overused and everybody's sick of it and nobody wants to hear it. If you know what I mean.
Ceiling cat is watching this thread masturbate.
posted by evil holiday magic at 8:40 PM on July 21, 2006
Ceiling cat is watching this thread masturbate.
posted by evil holiday magic at 8:40 PM on July 21, 2006
It's interesting with what little prompting regulars can turn a thread into a dreary exercise in inside references and cultural isolation. I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I'm actually saddened by this. I've enjoyed reading posts from some of you in the past, but the disproportionate backlash against this post is surprising and just disappointing.
I know it's not just me. A lot of MeFi posts are followed by immediate condemnation: "Worst. Post. Ever." And most spiral into irrelevant gibbering about a third the way through. It's becoming a bore.
I thank those who contributed.
Matt/Jess: you have my blessing to delete this depressing thread.
posted by evil holiday magic at 2:36 AM on July 22, 2006
I know it's not just me. A lot of MeFi posts are followed by immediate condemnation: "Worst. Post. Ever." And most spiral into irrelevant gibbering about a third the way through. It's becoming a bore.
I thank those who contributed.
Matt/Jess: you have my blessing to delete this depressing thread.
posted by evil holiday magic at 2:36 AM on July 22, 2006
Funny.
Oh wait, it wasn't. But it is what I'd expect. More noisy, thread-killing fap fap fap from a good ole boy.
posted by evil holiday magic at 2:42 PM on July 23, 2006
Oh wait, it wasn't. But it is what I'd expect. More noisy, thread-killing fap fap fap from a good ole boy.
posted by evil holiday magic at 2:42 PM on July 23, 2006
Seriously, even if you think the subject matter is thin, this could have been a normal discussion.
But, no. The thread police know what's best.
posted by evil holiday magic at 3:09 PM on July 23, 2006
But, no. The thread police know what's best.
posted by evil holiday magic at 3:09 PM on July 23, 2006
You should maybe think about lightening up and taking a look at your tone throughout. Maybe, just maybe, your framing (or inadequate lack thereof) contributed to how this was received.
Regardless, if you take yourself this seriously you're probably going to be disappointed more often than not by MeTa.
posted by OmieWise at 6:18 PM on July 23, 2006
Regardless, if you take yourself this seriously you're probably going to be disappointed more often than not by MeTa.
posted by OmieWise at 6:18 PM on July 23, 2006
Ah, continuing with the premise that I should have pleaded my case to the content gods to recognize the justification for my post. I said what types of posts were deleted, and referenced the original thread--in which Jess actually advocated taking the etiquette discussion here. Some people overreacted, and in came the noise posts. I can't account for some dude with a twitchy "Alt-F" command, or people who can't be bothered to read the original thread, or anyone just interested at snarking when there's blood in the water.
Matt was clever in that he omitted a lot of what made traditional forums so lame: signatures, avatars, slow loading tables. But you can't remove the stupid. The noise that envelops so so many discussions and turns the subject--any subject--into an exclusionary chat between regulars is so tiresome I close most threads a third through.
posted by evil holiday magic at 7:03 PM on July 23, 2006
Matt was clever in that he omitted a lot of what made traditional forums so lame: signatures, avatars, slow loading tables. But you can't remove the stupid. The noise that envelops so so many discussions and turns the subject--any subject--into an exclusionary chat between regulars is so tiresome I close most threads a third through.
posted by evil holiday magic at 7:03 PM on July 23, 2006
*tries to decide whether it's morally acceptable to poke e.h.m. until he flames out gloriously*
posted by languagehat at 5:23 AM on July 24, 2006
posted by languagehat at 5:23 AM on July 24, 2006
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Alt-F
discuss it with yourself.
posted by edgeways at 1:52 AM on July 21, 2006