“Nietzsche said ‘embrace your enemies.’ You aren't my enemies so I won't embrace you.”
– Mark E Smith
[The] wicked [son], what does he say: What is this service to you? To you and not to himself. And because he separated him self from the community [he] rejects that which is essential.posted by PhoBWanKenobi at 4:47 PM on January 7, 2010 [2 favorites]
This makes me so sick I could puke.This was in response to the news that a trucking company had stranded their drivers on the road. Now, I'm right there with her on the idea that this was an epically shitty thing to do. But threatening the perpetrators with eternal damnation and hellfire seems like it ought to be beyond the pale. I'm not alone in that assessment, and several people, myself included, posted comments to that effect, with varying tones ranging from the cautious and calm to the over-the-top. Every single one was deleted with a note about fighting, even the inoffensive, and the original comment was left intact.
I know there is a God in heaven that sees these shenanigans, and when payback time comes it's gonna be hell.
Other folks have changed accounts but not managed to fly under the radar. St. Alia is clearly one of them, and insofar as that's down to her being either unwilling to or incapable of changing her way of communicating here enough to make it anything other than blindingly obvious who she is I can appreciate the frustration of people who feel like there's some sort of "la la la I can't hear you" thing going on with the new account/old account friction. But the fact is that not letting that go, not willfully taking the high road and letting old shit go, is unquestionably a crappy thing.Apparently, the way we are to handle bigots and haters is to let them come back under a new alias and slip under the radar — unless they don't slip under the radar because they don't change their tune, in which case we are to let it go.
Cromwell's rule, named by statistician Dennis Lindley, states that one should avoid using prior probabilities of 0 or 1, except when applied to statements that are logically true or false.... The reference is to Oliver Cromwell, who famously wrote to the synod of the Church of Scotland on August 5, 1650 sayingSeriously, think it possible that you may be mistaken.I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken.
Those are not generally people who sincerely believe that hell exists and eternal torment actually does await people who make crappy web design choices. Those statements are obvious jokes. The individual in question, however, openly believes in hell and eternal damnation for sinners, and was very clearly not joking. She believes that people who do things like that deserve to burn forever.posted by Pope Guilty at 6:43 PM on January 7, 2010 [1 favorite]
If you think jokes and sincere statements should be treated identically, I don't know what to tell you.
"Decency... decency is what your grandmother taught you. It's in your bones! Now you go home. Go home and be decent people. Be decent.
me against the world- you are railing at me when you don't even recall what I said in the thread. I believe you're conflating what I said with the statements of others, later in the thread.
Goofy:Not an "attack" on St. Alia of the Bunnies, her character or person, but clearly a refutation of her disingenuous statement ("Believe everything you read, do you?") backed up by citations to counter such."USAFA is the one with the record of rampant religious discrimination."St. Alia of the Bunnies:"Believe everything you read, do you?"erib:"Yeah. Especially when we hear from the Air Force Academy leader and the Pentagon.
New York Times | February 7, 2008: Air Force Pays Evangelicals to Preach About Terrorism.
Colorado Springs Gazette | April 29, 2005: Air Force Academy evangelical bias ’systemic,’ group says.
CNN | May 5, 2005: Air Force probes religious bias charges at academy.
U.S. Pentagon | June 22, 2005: The Report of the Headquarters Review Group Concerning the. Religious Climate at the U.S. Air Force Academy [PDF]
Christian Century | June 28, 2005: Air Force Academy leader admits faith bias is pervasive.
New York Times | June 25, 2008: Religion and Its Role Are in Dispute at the Service Academies.
New York Times | February 28, 2009: Questions Raised Anew About Religion in Military."
posted by killdevil at 12:11 PM on January 7, 2010