At this point, the Westboro Baptist Church seems to show up and do something offensive, in a play for media attention, every time someone dies heroically or tragically. Do we need to help them? This church has, like 40 members, and it is not actually news that they show up to picket funerals again and again and a-freaking-gain. I didn't flag the comment about it in the Yarnell thread
because it's not, strictly speaking, off-topic. But I think it would be a better world if, when these guys show up, hoping to get yelled about on the Internet, we fail to oblige.
What is the MetaFilter etiquette concerning trollish remarks to an innocuous comment? [more inside]
So the Amanda Knox
thread has been pretty successfully trolled in the exact same way twice now, the first time apparently by a user operating under a secondary account. So, hey, are nerkul and fraac the same people? and could they knock it off?
Protip: When one says one is leaving the thread
, one should probably leave it.
"I question the very basis of your question/the assumptions behind your question!!" [more inside]
I think it was here that I came across a great webpage listing forum trolling techniques that read like an academic listing of informal logic fallacies. It had things like finding errors in small and irrelevant details, ad-hominem attacks, using provocative and loaded terms, shifting claims, concern trolling etc... I've looked for it several times recently and can't find it. Anybody remember the link?
An open letter. [more inside]
Can we add a flag for trolling? Or is this covered under one of the existing flags?
? I, and other folks, aren't too thrilled with what you're saying in the Elyse Sewell thread.
Let's talk about you over here, and keep talking about her over there. [more inside]
Could we perhaps gently show Gnostic Novelist where the door is? I would link to some of the more egregious of his baby-smearing-doodoo-all-over-threads, but it's probably simpler just to look at his posting history
I think the moderators should please actually READ the question
before deleting it. I asked a valid question about dinner table conversation, and the moderator deletes it on reading the word "troll". I cry unfair!
in any way acceptable? By which I mean posting a question that you "know" will be flame-bait, and then taunting those who answer?
This kind of thing
should result in an instaban.
In case any of you slept through your Women's Issues class in college, here are the cliffnotes
It started off as an innocent thread about D&D.
It degenerated into a trainwreck of trolling
. But then, at the last, it was rescued by a truly outstanding comment.
This is both what I hate and what I love most about metafilter.
There seems to be a contingent of people on this website (we all know who they are) who feel the need to pollute threads that would be otherwise relevant, reasonable, and/or interesting. They come in, spew their opinion, and then proceed to turn thought-provoking material into a three ring circus. After having to sift through heaps of vitrol to find comments that even remotely relate to the topic at hand twice today, I've had enough. Your need to have your last word in a public meeting space that prides itself on civil, topical conversation is disgustingly revealing of your immaturity and arrogance. As a user of this site who is primarily a lurker, I want to make a statement on behalf of those people who come here for the fascinating content: If you feel the need to troll and argue, shut up already.
Is it possible to engage in a debate with a Conservative on MeFi without calling him a troll? I give you this example
If you hate it so much, why are you here? (1
Who's "trolling" now?
Don't we have enough vituperative political "debates" around here without somebody singling out and baiting certain individuals by name?
Hey refugee/racist people
, get your own thread. Eight comments into it, the troll
succeeds and we're no longer talking about the camps. Good work.
Dios is blatantly trolling.
Again. This time, there can be no doubt in my mind that he is simply posting ridiculous, inflammatory and disingenuous comments for the purpose of starting needless arguments. If he had bothered to read the post, he would know that his point is invalidated completely. Do we have to tolerate his constant shitting on any political thread?
This is the thread for any complainers about the Mary Cary thread and the trolls that ran about it.
/ not complaining, just preventing snarks on the MeTa page. Metafilter is rated G well for the most part. *shakes fist at Mary Cary*
"And that clot is blocking your wife's cervix."
, bait emotionally susceptible people with some easy trollery. Second
, after you've drawn out some victims, call them "shallow hags" and tell them to "take [their] self-absorbed neuroses to an appropriate forum." Third
, deliver the knockout blow: attack them with their own medical conditions!
All in a day's work for Mayor Curley: defeating infertile, shallow internet hags everywhere.
I grant that my first comment
in this thread
was a little troll-ish, and I'm sorry about that. I probably contributed a pretty bad atmosphere to the discussion there. But was this
Excuse me ignorance for a few moments, but I in all honesty cannot for the life of me understand why bevets
is being considered a troll/flamer in this thread about evolution
Now, I am a full proponent of the Theory of Evolution. However, that said, all bevets is doing is disagreeing
with the Theory. Some people like orthogonality
decide to actually respond to bevets' ideas
. Not to pick on any one user, but then you get bshort
who sounds more like a troll than bevets by not even thoughtfully
responding to bevets' creationist ideas.
In all honestly, if byver wants to have an open dialogue about this topic, what is the problem? Does that make him a troll if he earnestly wants to discuss the topic, even if you all think he sucks at it because if so, then a whole LOT of users would be trolls with whom the masses just happen to agree with.
*note* I do NOT intend this thread to be a pileon over bevets (enough of that happened in the thread), but rather what makes a troll vs. a good poster since all I see here is a very strong disagreement in ideologies.
I disagree with the decision to close this MeTa thread.
I understand that you made a decision regarding the topic, and I understand that it could have
devolved into name-calling, but as it stood, the comments were reasonable and without personal insults. A better discussion could have ensued regarding flagging etiquette and how to deal with obnoxious comments; in fact, the makings of a good conversation regarding what constitutes a flaggable offense existed. I just felt that the closing was premature.
Could we get a "troll" option for flagging?
The reality is that they stand around thinking they are playing a video game until somebody gets hurt.
This is pretty egregious trolling.
s, or, the life and oeuvre of one luckyclone
. Though a prior specialist in one
), this user hasn't made a coherent comment since December 6
Attention store manager: Cleanup in aisle 38721
. Troll juice
has been spilled, making people cry.
A thread about some irresponsible thing Bill O'Reilly said
is followed with some pile on comments and a few insights. Then, ten comments and forty minutes later, this: "Jeebus, how does this qualify as a FPP?
" It seems that on the new MetaFilter, post policing is the new troll.
Have we been trolled?
07 Dec 2004 : Cost to me £96.99 : PapPal Donations £0.00 : Reaction on Metafilter - Priceless
Read back through his comments on the original thread
with this in mind, and the whole thing smacks of a self post.
WHBT? WHL? HAND*
*W = we
"Troll" may have a respectable lineage on the Web but, frankly, for some of us who joined later in the day, it seems like a quaint, medieval way of classifying anyone who's the least bit provocative, thought-provoking or even unorthodox. Recently, any forceful, strongly-worded attempt to spark discussion with a non-mainstream viewpoint, generally from the Left, has been lamely denounced as a "troll". Could it be time to give the ye olde troll accusation a well-deserved rest? I hope so. The English language is one of the richest in the world and troll sounds parochial, pimply, nerdish, cliquey, incestuous and, ultimately, meaningless.
ParisParamus, 4 am JST
: "How long will there will cowards logged into Metafilter?"
ParisParamus, 10:37 am JST
: "Metafilter: keeping as many liberal and pacifist a-holes inside, so they do the least amount of damage possible in the real world."
: Talk about posting your petty grievances in the Blue! Heheh.
Ok, I wasn't going to say anything when Witty decided to spend an inordinate amount of time trying to ruin amberglow's thread
with his particular (read: vapid, boring) brand of insane troll logic. However, he then decided an interesting course of action would be to make a similarly unwarranted (perhaps even moreso) comment
in an unrelated thread.
Therefore, I politely and humbly request that Witty please refrain from making similarily irrelevant--and snide--comments in the future, at least in in the blue.
"As for the purpose of this post, I guess I wanted to see if you loud-mouthed, violently prejudiced morons on Mefi had it left in you to try and rationally adress a troubling issue that doesn't jive with your incredibly narrow viewpoints."
Thank you sir may I have another
Blatant front-page troll
We've all seen what can happen when MeFi devolves into pointless personality conflicts: the site gets hijacked to propogate something that 99.9% of the users don't care about. We've also all seen one member virtually drag another into such conflicts, making a two-way crapfest out of what was originally just one-sided goofiness...[more inside]