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Have we returned to a civil MetaFilter?
Reasonable and reasoned talk about the war? a global warming thread where people correct themselves and say "climate change"? Is Mefi returning to civility? Which is to say, normality???
debka verboten
i seem to recall mathowie expressly forbidding postroad from ever posting a debka link again. since postroad continually flouts even basic metafilter guidelines and seems to regard this forum as his personal colostomy bag, i think he needs a time out.
The very worst kind of IraqFilter thread
This is an example of the very worst kind of IraqFilter thread. Grabbing the first news story on a subject, a Fark-style minimal headline and people getting out the popcorn for a surely ensuing flamewar.
Can we please not have anymore crap like this on MeFi? There are many other places to get information like this.
Can we please not have anymore crap like this on MeFi? There are many other places to get information like this.
We will discuss whatever is in the links
Posted by nofundy at 2:48 PM EST on March 14:
This so didn't need to be posted. Do we really need to hear yet another pundit's fascinating views on Iraq?
"So you think discussing Eminem would be a better use of time than considering alternate viewpoints on serious issues?"
This so didn't need to be posted. Do we really need to hear yet another pundit's fascinating views on Iraq?
"So you think discussing Eminem would be a better use of time than considering alternate viewpoints on serious issues?"
Attacking and insulting members isn't cool.
America-centric attitudes on MetaFilter
American attitudes on the net... [more inside]
Spoofed posts not funny anymore
Bomb the fuck away.
Is this acceptable? I tried to levy what I thought was a reasonable, if salty, criticism against this member for a previous comment, and I get called some colourful names. I thought the majority of the comments in the thread were a civil and rational blend of discussion, agreement and disagreement, so it made me a bit sad, though not really surprised, to see such a response, and to see it supported by another member.
What ever happened to quite rational discussion?
I'm slightly disturbed by the vitriol suddenly on display here. What ever happened to quite, rational discussion? [more]
yuckkkkkkkkkkkkk
23324 - The Grand Cabaret : apparently deleted because "It's just you. Really." Are we saying that it was deleted because everyone disagreed with the poster (they didn't) or because it was likely to offend people (which many other threads risk).
Personally, my brain can't cope when The Sun can run a sensible article about bigger women while MetaFilter responds with "yuckkkkkkkkkkkkk".
Personally, my brain can't cope when The Sun can run a sensible article about bigger women while MetaFilter responds with "yuckkkkkkkkkkkkk".
On preview: who cares?
On preview: who cares? [more inside]
ethically questionable mapping link; i am sorry
I recently posted a link, and in it I happened to slip a 1x1 px graphic that is used by this site to create a map of internet users. Seemed harmless enough, but in retrospect I regret having done it. It was an action of questionable ethics, and I should have avoided it. Please nix my post and accept my apologies.
Author derails own thread
What do we do when the post's author is derailing his/her own thread? [more inside]
Step 1: read Step 2: post
Of course, don't bother to actually follow through to the content of the link, instead you'd rather be the first to wish me a Happy New Year, Mefi-style.
I admit it, I monopolized the thread
Er, Guilty... It's easy to monopolize a thread when the subject is dear to one's heart. But it's difficult to gauge when one should resign and say "I'll shut up now". Cheerleading is annoying and thread-destroying. Although it's impossible to regulate posters' percentages and stuff, I'd like to hear other members' opinions on what constitutes the acceptable limit for commenting on one's own thread - considering that the moment you post it, it no more belongs to you than it does to anybody else.
Good FPP derail belongs in Metatalk?
After seeing this thread denigrate into a debate over the question of whether it was a good FPP or not, I started wondering: is a metatalk thread an appropriate vehicle for trying to divert etiquette debate out a blue thread even when the metatalk thread itself is likely to turn into a rehash of a zillion other metatalk threads?
big, bad idea
This post Shows why giving users control over font size is a bad idea.
"not safe for people who don't want to see gay porn?"
Question in regards to WolfDaddy posting a link labelled not safe for work or people who haven't seen Queer as Folk. Shouldn't that have read "not safe for people who don't want to see gay porn?" I'm pretty sure what I saw, but I don't want to double-check. Just let me know if that was fair warning or I should sue for temporary blindness.
Informative, but...
Welcome to "Me"tafilter.
A warning would be good when you link you crazy racist propaganda.
I am more than fed up of this sort of nonsense being posted to MeFi. Can we give some sort of community time-out or other shot over the bows here? [See also here.]
Kablam: were you not content with comments like this last time?
"...I'd think a site should at least have to have a shred of legitimacy to rate a front-page link here...
I find it doubtful that there is anything on this website that is not a lie...You know, being linked to by MeFi is going to make this nazi's guy's day...It's not out of line to expect some sort of warning, if the post has a link of questionable nature...Crap link=Crap Post...we don't want to give these assholes hits..."Various posters
Kablam: were you not content with comments like this last time?
"...I'd think a site should at least have to have a shred of legitimacy to rate a front-page link here...
I find it doubtful that there is anything on this website that is not a lie...You know, being linked to by MeFi is going to make this nazi's guy's day...It's not out of line to expect some sort of warning, if the post has a link of questionable nature...Crap link=Crap Post...we don't want to give these assholes hits..."Various posters
Where are all the lefties?
Don't derail to recommend me a different browser
AnnoyanceFilter! [Much more inside...]
furthering marginalization
im not happy with the fpp treating the homeless as though they were vermin. out of order.
(dont know how to link to it)
(dont know how to link to it)
Can we stop with the ad hominem comments, please?
Grrr. Can we stop with the ad hominem comments, please? You don't need to repeat someone's "It's ugly!" comment over and over again. And over again. And then again. And then repeat the last person who said it again. And then repeat the repeat. And quote the last repeat to agree with it. And then say ditto. (See how annoying that gets?)
Probably a better question: Do we have guidelines for posting a good comment? Should we?
Probably a better question: Do we have guidelines for posting a good comment? Should we?
Being trolled from the outside
Is he baiting us? Noted ex-Mefite Steven Den Beste, in self-imposed exile, says he left because we got "stranger and stranger" and, according to him, the inmates are still running the asylum. Are we guilty of lefty groupthink, or is SDB focusing on the posts that annoy him and ignoring the diversity of opinions here, and quit in a huff because we wouldn't all agree with him? (Note: we've talked about him before on Metatalk.)
Are you a MeFi Lefty or a MeFi Righty?
Are you a MeFi Lefty or a MeFi Righty? I honestly don't get what comments like this one are getting at, or what they would prefer to see happen here. The lack of specificity in most of these complaints doesn't help. I see good and bad arguments getting called out regularly, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. What am I missing?
Mea Culpa.
I apologise in advance for my transgression. Methinks I may have gone a bit far...
Less is more...
Stop picking on the n00bs
I'd like to suggest that there might be a bit of a danger these days of stripping some potential away from the site. A lot of new users are being called out (or belittled) rather promiscuously for posts or comments that are often no different than what they have been accustomed to seeing from Metafilter elders pre-14k (as well as post-14k). Vigilance is worthy and needed in order to protect the integrity of Metafilter, but I suspect that there is a risk of creating an atmosphere of paranoia in which many promising new members will be afraid to post anything that they are not absolutely certain will not reap condemnation. (more inside...)
Good warcrimes post destroyed by personal attacks in discussion
I am disturbed by the conversations attacking the original poster in F&M's post on warcrimes (sorry I don't know how to hyperlink without the button.) I found the post well reasoned, free of ideology, and providing important considerations regarding future military action in Iraq. If someone had a legitimate complaint about the post it seems it should have been made here. To denegrate the post, the poster, and those who responded thanking the poster seems juvenial and small minded.
Just because it's "another Coulter thread"
Hi, Jack. Just because it's "another Coulter thread" doesn't mean raysmj ought to piss all over it with his off-topic opinions on proper journalistic style. How many other threads have been similarly derailed by snarks on the writing style or site design of the linked page?
namecalling in mefi al qaeda/iraq thread
No, dumbass... this isn't a war on weapons of mass destruction... it isn't a war on the fucking "concept" of terrorism, wherever it rears it's ugly metaphorical head... Al Queda is a threat to us. Iraq is a threat to us. Do i have to spell it out for you morons? it's a war on threats to us. motherfucking DUH.
Inexcusable. I could say more, but it would get ugly.
Inexcusable. I could say more, but it would get ugly.
Did I do something wrong?
I'm sorry, I'm new here. Did I do something wrong? I realize I derailed the thread from the start (for that I apologize), but somehow I became the poster boy for two warring sides in a flame war riddled with insults and heated emotions. I like to think I tried to maintain a civil discourse at the beginning, unfortunately I went to sleep when it got really nasty. Should I have not posted at all? What went wrong here, I would like to know for future reference.
What constitutes movement?
Your post sucks
I just thought your tired old thread wasn't good enough to comment in, or post relevant information. After all, everyone knows a thread is dead after 4 hours.
C'mon, this just seems inappropriate.
C'mon, this just seems inappropriate.
And yet MetaFilter is a joy to read
Piling on clavdivs; piling on riviera; piling on fold_and_mutilate; piling on stavrosthewonderchicken; piling on rodii; piling on evanizer; piling on rcade; piling on bluetrain; piling and unpiling; back and forth; predictably lashing and then cuddling; the pack mentality rife; the mob rule always subjacent... This is what MetaTalk looks like after two weeks away.
And yet... and yet MetaFilter is a joy to read. I'd wished personalities weren't made into issues at the cost of issues themselves - issues are, after all, what MetaFilter does best - but then it struck me that perhaps MetaTalk is fulfilling its role as a sort of blotter-paper, soaking up all the displaced aggressiveness and natural human attrition and rivalry. And keeping MetaFilter clean, so to speak. Is this perverse or healthy in a leeching, purging sort of way? So - can this be talked about without thinking it's about somebody or another? Has MetaTalk been efficiently used so that MetaFilter can be MetaFilter? Is it being dumbed down and fouled up? And does it matter if the result over in the blue seems so successful?
And yet... and yet MetaFilter is a joy to read. I'd wished personalities weren't made into issues at the cost of issues themselves - issues are, after all, what MetaFilter does best - but then it struck me that perhaps MetaTalk is fulfilling its role as a sort of blotter-paper, soaking up all the displaced aggressiveness and natural human attrition and rivalry. And keeping MetaFilter clean, so to speak. Is this perverse or healthy in a leeching, purging sort of way? So - can this be talked about without thinking it's about somebody or another? Has MetaTalk been efficiently used so that MetaFilter can be MetaFilter? Is it being dumbed down and fouled up? And does it matter if the result over in the blue seems so successful?
Deletion: ask and ye shall receive
Is it appropriate to ask that clavdiv's moronic, homophobic, 4-post dump on this thread be deleted?
Tired of the prison rape discussion
The next time someone posts with glee about a criminal being subjected to violent penile colonization, turning the discussion immediately into a referendum on the subject of prison rape (#1 #2), I hope that person has to spend quality pound-in-the-ass time in MetaTalk as rodii's bitch.
Us declares itself above the law.
Us declares itself above the law.
Other than one or two people here and there talking about the topic at hand, this thread was basically a shouting match and trolling session. Is this the level of debate that now passes for inteligent from the MetaFilter community?
Other than one or two people here and there talking about the topic at hand, this thread was basically a shouting match and trolling session. Is this the level of debate that now passes for inteligent from the MetaFilter community?
Editorializing on the front page
Mob-style takedown
Take a trip with me down the Riviera (#1, #2, #3, #4), where no comment is complete without a little vicious personal invective.
When the cat's away...
I'm seriously aware that Matt is gone for the weekend, but do we have to put up with crap like this?
conservatives, ok. bigots, bad.
getting weary of the bigotry flying around over the past few days. while conservative viewpoints are entirely necessary to keep conversation here balanced, this repeated stereotyping is beyond juvenile.
Poorly typed posts ruin the subject matter.
I hate when important stories are ruined by lousy posts. How many errors can you find? Where's the cleanup crew when you need them?!
the thin line between a little laugh and thoughtless cruelty
The unintentional revelations in this thread have got me thinking. Like many other people, I've poked fun at "bizarre" sites. In fact several online venues exist expressly for this purpose.
When the sites are merely stupid or silly, I suppose joking is harmless enough. But rcade's research shows us that some "odd" sites can be related to circumstances like those in today's thread. I've enjoyed sites like the one's above and wouldn't want them muzzled; I suppose what I'm asking is where is the line between harmless mockery and thoughtless cruelty and how much discretion should we exercise before linking to sites like this one?
When the sites are merely stupid or silly, I suppose joking is harmless enough. But rcade's research shows us that some "odd" sites can be related to circumstances like those in today's thread. I've enjoyed sites like the one's above and wouldn't want them muzzled; I suppose what I'm asking is where is the line between harmless mockery and thoughtless cruelty and how much discretion should we exercise before linking to sites like this one?
Yeah, it is a small business, and...?
This is the second front page post in a week ridiculing bad small business design. A bad precedent, and today's post is aggressive to boot. (inside)
From discussion to bigotry
Discussion? Bigotry? Over the past few days, several threads seem (to me at least) to have degenerated from discussion to all out Muslim bashing (1,2,3). I'm not here to name names, point fingers or tattle on anyone for specific comments, rather to ask at what point do we say "enough is enough?" People have a right to their opinions (prejudices), but when those opinions are stated without some modicum of respect/even-handedness, we have to wonder why they are tolerated in a public forum.
Was I out of line?
Curious (especially in light of the previous thread in MeTa) about whether I was out of line in this exchange. Please note olav's posting record and his homepage URL.
Can we just ban people for being stupid?
Can we just ban people for being stupid?