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How are new users discovering Metafilter?
I'm always a little surprised when I see a new user on Metafilter, since talk about it elsewhere online seems to have been erased by all the talk about billion-dollar sites. If you're a relatively new user - within the past three or four years, say - how did you find Metafilter?
Threads for introducing new people to metafilter
There was a doc a member put together that was a bunch of links to threads they felt were a good introduction to metafilter, for people who had never heard of metafilter. I swore I bookmarked it, but where? [more inside]
New Users Page
Pony Request: Can we have a page that aggregates the user profiles for the 100 newest users (or the new users in the past month)? [more inside]
OMG N00BS.
There are a lot of new people on MetaFilter and I want to make a Welcome to MeFi page on the wiki. Can you help me out with some things you wished you'd known when you were new here? [more inside]
Post deletion
Not sure why, but my first post was deleted. It was about the News Corp discussions with Microsoft. Definitely not spam, so I'm not sure what happened.
MeFi's 2d wave turns three.
Happy birthday Generation Y MeFites! [more inside]
famous blue website
IdleCuriousityFilter: What media mentions of MetaFilter have generated significant numbers of new accounts? [more inside]
Tony Wilson
I'm too newbie to post to the front page, but would like to know: is anybody gonna give a shout to Tony Wilson?
Hey new user! Ask Metafilter is part of a larger site, with history and community!
With AskMe getting lots of press (as in here) as a unit seperate from Metafilter (meaning, blue, grey, white, mauve, etc.), there should really be a message on ask letting the droves of new users know that it is a part of a larger community, with other features, a resource for post discussion and discourse, and a user base not completely dedicated to the green. People who enter through Angel Island should know New York exists. /metaphor)
Quality Vs. Quantity, n00b edition
So I found two cool sites, dealing with entirely separate things that could make meaty FPPs. I just don't have the time to do the research to flesh them out right now. Should I make a pair of posts, or one post connected in a jokey or left-field way? Should I just make follow-up posts in my own thread as I find more stuff, or would you prefer the style of my previous posts, in general, even if it means I forget about stuff that may potentially be cool? I see a massive variety of styles, but I figure I may as well sound the hivemind out. Please feel free to ignore me if I'm being too n00bish.
spam spam spammity spam
This is a spammy self-link in the comments of the green, from a shiny new user. The poster almost asked permission in the gray (the thread just below this one), but I suspect that this isn't quite what #1 had in mind when he said to go ahead and make the post.
Closing New-User Signups
With the increasing number of stupid call outs on MetaTalk of late, the general lowering of the standards of debate in MeFi and seemingly more and more attacks on #1 and #292 for their admin decisions, I respectfully and tentatively suggest that now may be the time to close off new user sign-ups for a while.
Proposal - Mefi Mentorship for new users
Encouraged by one supportive comment here, I am proposing the MeFi Mentorship program for new users. The idea is to ease new users into the MetaFilter community and avoid the kind of ugliness that happens when newbies don't understand how MetaFilter works. [more inside]
An air of prestige and exclusivity
If you close signups for a couple of years it will lend an air of prestige and exclusivity to Metafilter.
Welcome to new users
I don't get it
Just so I, as a relatively new user, can understand: how exactly is this not a self-link, but my question was? (No hard feelings - I really would like to know.)
I think that NickDouglas wants me to get my own blog.
I think that NickDouglas wants me to get my own blog.
As something of a noob, I'm curious as to what the consensus is on what makes a "get your own goddamn blog and quit bothering us" post. I've done a little back reading on MeTa and finding a consensus is difficult. Help me not do it again. Thanks.
As something of a noob, I'm curious as to what the consensus is on what makes a "get your own goddamn blog and quit bothering us" post. I've done a little back reading on MeTa and finding a consensus is difficult. Help me not do it again. Thanks.
So I shouldn't talk about guns or declawing cats. What else should I know?
I have some ideas about getting rid of religious fundamentalism, winning the War on Terrorism, and inoculating our nation against ever electing anyone like George Bush to the White House again -- all at the same time and using nothing more lethal than words and a few diagrams.
I'm new here, and I would appreciate suggestions on what I should particularly avoid doing in discussing such matters in this group.
I am also from an older generation, and I am extremely upset about the current atmosphere in Washington, if any of this helps to explain the kind of answers I need.
I'm new here, and I would appreciate suggestions on what I should particularly avoid doing in discussing such matters in this group.
I am also from an older generation, and I am extremely upset about the current atmosphere in Washington, if any of this helps to explain the kind of answers I need.
Attention first-time posters
Attention first-time posters: hpsell recently made a hideous front-page post that violated just about every possible rule. Inevitably, he was greeted with a barrage of negative responses: [bad bad bad], "I'm not going to make fun of you because I strongly suspect that you're retarded," and the like. Did he whine, counterattack, or curl up into a ball and hide? No, he said "i didnt mean to ruffle any feathers... ill try to do better with the grammar." [more inside]
No one complains about newsfilter when people die
About today's earthquake/tidal wave post : today I read the New York Times site before Metafilter, but I dismissed the possibility of posting about it because of the recent snarking against linking to current news articles in front page posts.
Then I clicked on my Mefi tab to discover somebody had posted about it, and nobody's posted any "NewsFilter" gripes yet. Is it that the 0ldB33 Snarkers Committee really means "...to news articles we don't like (and you have to read our minds)", or is there a policy of ranking the human costs of natural disasters somewhere above doggie dildos after all?
As for that thread's content, I was little dismayed about the comments where people's big concern was for one dried-up (and never very good) Sci-Fi author (the movie "2001" was Kubrick's doing, y'all), but I withheld my remarks about that failure of etiquette and (as I see it) morals from the Blue -- as, as of this typing, so has everybody else.
But then of course I'm still a "n00b".... Are concerns like those I've expressed here today okay, or should I first submit my MetaTalk thread ideas to some MetaCognoscenti as well?
Then I clicked on my Mefi tab to discover somebody had posted about it, and nobody's posted any "NewsFilter" gripes yet. Is it that the 0ldB33 Snarkers Committee really means "...to news articles we don't like (and you have to read our minds)", or is there a policy of ranking the human costs of natural disasters somewhere above doggie dildos after all?
As for that thread's content, I was little dismayed about the comments where people's big concern was for one dried-up (and never very good) Sci-Fi author (the movie "2001" was Kubrick's doing, y'all), but I withheld my remarks about that failure of etiquette and (as I see it) morals from the Blue -- as, as of this typing, so has everybody else.
But then of course I'm still a "n00b".... Are concerns like those I've expressed here today okay, or should I first submit my MetaTalk thread ideas to some MetaCognoscenti as well?
Can we close signups now?
Can we close the door now? I'm genuinely happy to have some new blood, but here's the problem. Pretty much everyone who's been reading the site with their noses against the glass has been let in. Hereafter, we're going to get a bunch of folks who happen to be wandering by, and know nothing of how things are done around here. (I don't know if that's the case with notmtwain, I'm only using his/her post as an example because it glares so.) We can always open it up again later, but can we have a moratorium on new users? Just for now? Please?
the consensus is: MetaFilter is not a soapbox
I am new. There is a lot of MetaTalk about politics.
Apparently, "The quickest way to get a label you'll never be able to shake here is to engage in political threads."
For a long time, I couldn't figure out why people freaked out so much about mentions of politics, but I've been reading this thread, and I'm almost three-quarters through, finally, and it looks like the consensus is: MetaFilter is not a soapbox, and your primary subject should be links, not opinions.
That's cool with me, I'm just curious if I've got it properly nailed down.
Apparently, "The quickest way to get a label you'll never be able to shake here is to engage in political threads."
For a long time, I couldn't figure out why people freaked out so much about mentions of politics, but I've been reading this thread, and I'm almost three-quarters through, finally, and it looks like the consensus is: MetaFilter is not a soapbox, and your primary subject should be links, not opinions.
That's cool with me, I'm just curious if I've got it properly nailed down.
A Word of Advice for New Users, From Your Uncle y6y6y6
A few words to our new users, from someone hardly qualified to give them. [more inside]
MeFi by invitation only?
I believe this has been discussed before, though my clever attempts at searching MetaTalk yielded no aid in framing a picture for reference. (The thread I seem to recall was in response to Kuro5hin toying with the same concept I wish to put forth for discussion.)
It is a seemingly accepted dogma that MetaFilter may be better off with new members, although prior attempts at acquiring new friends have proved to be problematic. So we've thought of using invitations from existing members as a means to introduce new points of view. ?
It is a seemingly accepted dogma that MetaFilter may be better off with new members, although prior attempts at acquiring new friends have proved to be problematic. So we've thought of using invitations from existing members as a means to introduce new points of view. ?
way to go on scaring the new guy
Now that we have all read and agreed with Taz's post, lets put it into practice: User posts first Front-page Post. The Post is great and well-received. New user even explains where he got it from (not that he had to). Everything's great so far so...let's call him out because it appeared in some older comments AND let's accuse him of outright stealing it! Good work!
what is the system bottleneck that makes new users a bad thing?
Matt - speaking curiously, what is the system bottleneck that makes new users a bad thing? I presume it's database load, because the logged-in user enjoys comment counts and other database-intensive features that are demanding to serve. The static, logged-out homepage is easy to serve, even to a large number of visitors, by comparison, right? The real danger number to watch is the pageviews by logged-in users (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm totally guessing). Are there features we could sacrifice for the sake of an open reg? What are you all willing to give up to open the gates? User comment history? Custom timezones and comment previews...?
Did anyone else noticed the membership count changing in the blue?
Did anyone else noticed the membership count changing in the blue? It seemed like it dropped from the 17000's down to 16896.
From the outside looking in
“Much as I hate to admit it, I like Metafilter and I wish that I could become a member so that I could participate in yet another failed attempt to acheive concensus in our grand extended mediated public conversation thing we got going on here (or, from a different perspective, this fantastically successful attempt to foster fractious contention).”
“Listen, not everyone is meant to be ‘With It,’ right. Long ago I decided that the least I could do to stand up for all that divides us is to refuse to be the kind of person who milled in line in front of the club whose cache was primarily granted by the fact that you (and the likes of you) couldn't get in. The rest of us have two choices. We can mill around in the line, playing the fools to justify the chosen types, or we can go it alone.”
“And thus meta-meta-metafilter is born. Metafilter already has a meta-Metafilter, Metatalk, so I had to take the next step down.” [more inside]
“Listen, not everyone is meant to be ‘With It,’ right. Long ago I decided that the least I could do to stand up for all that divides us is to refuse to be the kind of person who milled in line in front of the club whose cache was primarily granted by the fact that you (and the likes of you) couldn't get in. The rest of us have two choices. We can mill around in the line, playing the fools to justify the chosen types, or we can go it alone.”
“And thus meta-meta-metafilter is born. Metafilter already has a meta-Metafilter, Metatalk, so I had to take the next step down.” [more inside]
One asshole ruining it for everyone
Yesterday I said jokingly "I'm not a big fan of gatherings -- it seems when you get enough people together in one place, the chances of one asshole ruining it for everyone goes up exponentially." and someone went and proved it. This is why letting new users can be problematic.
140 is Twenty in base something-or-other
Question: if new user signups were limited to twenty new users a day, why did we end up with 140 new members in the span of a two-day period? Could this account for the excess strain on the server today?
[I thought about just sending Matt an e-mail but thought some others might be interested in the response.]
[I thought about just sending Matt an e-mail but thought some others might be interested in the response.]
Is MetaFilter still a secret?
"One day everyone will rely on Dong Resin's Joint and MetaFilter". Along with other, less interesting sources. This seems to be the gist of this recent Online Journalism Review column by Mark Glaser. And it sounds good to me. So the question is: what danger is there of what we take to be parochial and almost private actually going mainstream? Is MetaFilter still a secret? What is lost and what is gained if it suddenly goes mainstream on us?
Is Metafilter in danger of becoming irrelevant?
Is Metafilter in danger of becoming irrelevant?
We're in desperate need of some new opinions around here.
Can it happen? Is it a technical limitation? What do you think?
We're in desperate need of some new opinions around here.
Can it happen? Is it a technical limitation? What do you think?
Auto-focus cursor?
I am a true newbie, but I do have a request. I was inspired by this and in particular, his mention of auto-focusing cursors. Can we do that with MetaFilter? Most obviously on the login screen, but I'm sure it has uses in posting.
50% of comments on MetaFilter are by people who first joined in 2002
50% of comments on MetaFilter are by people who first joined in 2002. In my Mefi wanderings, I got the feeling that there were not many low-digit users posting on MetaFilter anymore. Everyone seemed to be a 14xxx! I decided to seek the truth..
But, I thought MeFi was *about* the news
Hi,
I'm new. Been here a month or so. I'm not even sure if it's appropriate for me to post this here, now, but damn the torpedoes, or whatever. I bought my account, because I had been reading metafilter for almost a year and wanted to join in the discussion.
I'm seeing a lot of discussion about too much news, too many links posted to the front page.
But, I thought MeFi was *about* the news. If it's not, what is it, then?
And it occurs to me that the whole point of having loose guidelines with anyone being able to post to the front page is so that the site can grow and change.
That's organic, and that's the point isn't it? That it's not plastic with karma whores and it's not a newsgroup with trolls and spammers.
Do you want the group to evolve over time or not? And if not, what do you want? I think I've read all the faqs and things I'm supposed to read, but apparently I still don't get it. Because I don't understand what the oldtimers are upset about.
And this isn't to stir up controversy, but I'm looking to be enlightened. Have the few things I posted to the main page been out of place? How about some new guidelines for us newbies?
I'm new. Been here a month or so. I'm not even sure if it's appropriate for me to post this here, now, but damn the torpedoes, or whatever. I bought my account, because I had been reading metafilter for almost a year and wanted to join in the discussion.
I'm seeing a lot of discussion about too much news, too many links posted to the front page.
But, I thought MeFi was *about* the news. If it's not, what is it, then?
And it occurs to me that the whole point of having loose guidelines with anyone being able to post to the front page is so that the site can grow and change.
That's organic, and that's the point isn't it? That it's not plastic with karma whores and it's not a newsgroup with trolls and spammers.
Do you want the group to evolve over time or not? And if not, what do you want? I think I've read all the faqs and things I'm supposed to read, but apparently I still don't get it. Because I don't understand what the oldtimers are upset about.
And this isn't to stir up controversy, but I'm looking to be enlightened. Have the few things I posted to the main page been out of place? How about some new guidelines for us newbies?
Can't well all just get along?
Can't well all just get along? To an extent I can accept the 14k+ crowd misbehaving for awhile — at least till they pick-up on 'Metaquette' — but others should know better than to feed the trolls or fan flamebait.
Stop picking on the n00bs
I'd like to suggest that there might be a bit of a danger these days of stripping some potential away from the site. A lot of new users are being called out (or belittled) rather promiscuously for posts or comments that are often no different than what they have been accustomed to seeing from Metafilter elders pre-14k (as well as post-14k). Vigilance is worthy and needed in order to protect the integrity of Metafilter, but I suspect that there is a risk of creating an atmosphere of paranoia in which many promising new members will be afraid to post anything that they are not absolutely certain will not reap condemnation. (more inside...)
base-ten rollover!
Since sign-ups were turned back on the thread count has been growing rapidly. With September 11th coming up, we'll almost certainly see thread 20,000 within the week. The last base-ten rollover passed with little fanfare. Should we ignore the significance of #20k? Use it for elitist ego stroking? Perhaps pancakes are in order...
For all the new members struggling to come up with a witty name
For all the new members struggling to come up with a witty name,here are some suggestions.
Can I change my login to "GSV Just Another Victim Of The Ambient Morality"?
Can I change my login to "GSV Just Another Victim Of The Ambient Morality"?
Registration is better closed
Okay. I asked it in a thread, and only got one response. My question for the masses (without an agenda) is this....we've obtained about 1500+ new users in the last 4-6 weeks. When do we start talking about turning sign-ups off again?
whats your story?
Hello, I am a brand new member, and I have been waiting to become a part of this for a very long time. Who else has been waiting for a space, and whats your story on how you got involved into metafilter? -Mine inside!
Easing the transition for new users.
20 neophytes a day - and I'm one of yesterday's crop. Fresh-faced, clean-skinned...
As a Content Editor at Everything2, I'm intimately acquainted with the stickiness inherent in introducing new people to an online community (especially a content-oriented community, as opposed to activity-, hobby-, or interest-oriented ones). There seems to be a dearth of documentation. I guess this site is pretty self-explanatory, which is refreshing - I've been an E2 user for two and a half years and I still occasionally scratch my big, fat head. Also, after such a long, long time with no new users (I know it was a long time because I spent a long time checking the new user page), you guys must be experiencing something of a shock, too.
Any ideas as to what could be done to ease the transition for newbies and allay the angst, if any, of the old guard?
Feel free to kill this if I'm out of line, long-winded or otherwise. I'm a new at this.
As a Content Editor at Everything2, I'm intimately acquainted with the stickiness inherent in introducing new people to an online community (especially a content-oriented community, as opposed to activity-, hobby-, or interest-oriented ones). There seems to be a dearth of documentation. I guess this site is pretty self-explanatory, which is refreshing - I've been an E2 user for two and a half years and I still occasionally scratch my big, fat head. Also, after such a long, long time with no new users (I know it was a long time because I spent a long time checking the new user page), you guys must be experiencing something of a shock, too.
Any ideas as to what could be done to ease the transition for newbies and allay the angst, if any, of the old guard?
Feel free to kill this if I'm out of line, long-winded or otherwise. I'm a new at this.
Is metafilter membership currently open or closed?
Is metafilter membership currently open or closed? There seems to be some confusion. Could Matt please clear this up by issuing some sort of official statement? Please?
From what I understand, ostensibly it's closed, but I looked and found the most recent user profile I could, which shows this user is new as of July 24, 2002. Uh, that's pretty recent in my book.
Yes, this is Matt's fiefdom and he can do as he damn well pleases, but frankly some of us think that this "it's closed / no wait, it's really open but only on my terms (which are secret)" kind of thing is uncool, to say the least. Maybe that's not how it is, but it's how it may appear to some people.
Care to clue us all in on what the official word is, Matt?
From what I understand, ostensibly it's closed, but I looked and found the most recent user profile I could, which shows this user is new as of July 24, 2002. Uh, that's pretty recent in my book.
Yes, this is Matt's fiefdom and he can do as he damn well pleases, but frankly some of us think that this "it's closed / no wait, it's really open but only on my terms (which are secret)" kind of thing is uncool, to say the least. Maybe that's not how it is, but it's how it may appear to some people.
Care to clue us all in on what the official word is, Matt?
does anyone know if this is ever going to happen...?
"Jul 16 The new server is up and running. I'll re-enable signups sometime this week."
that week has come and gone... does anyone know if this is ever going to happen...?
that week has come and gone... does anyone know if this is ever going to happen...?
A troll by any other name
I'd use the word troll in this case, but it has some connotations that are a bit loaded given the subject.
How can I add other links in the post?
My first post here on Metalk so please excuse me if this is (has been) covered elsewhere. While I understand how to make a "basic" post, how can I add other links in the post (within the description text). I have no idea. Any help?
Is it important for Metafilter to grow its membership?
Is it important for Metafilter to grow its membership? Is it important for feature requests to be implemented? If the answer to either is yes, isn't it then the membership's challenge ( or responsibility?) to contribute more cash, or to contribute more time to help figure out how more cash can be generated. More inside.
The best case for a MeFi waiting period I've ever seen
The best case for a MeFi waiting period I've ever seen Survivorcam 2 gets mentioned, 3-4 people (at last count) sign up to create a stupid thread. Anyone want to invite the good people at Slashdot over?
Opening up registration again?
After/Upon the deluge. I feel somewhat self-conscious writing this since I only discovered Mefi in March. Nonetheless, I wonder if Matt has considered how to re-open Metafilter to new members. At this point, the pent-up demand is likely quite large, which could cause a kind of chaos. So I would suggest the when the gate re-opens, it be done in phases: maybe a certain number of posters per-day or per-week for a certain number of weeks; it's how we would do things back in Paramus. Just a thought.
Does MetaFilter need to be a nurturing environment?
"Of course not, dayvin, but thanks for ruining the excitement of posting my first link."
Link content aside, does this happen too often? Does MetaFilter need to be a nurturing environment? Could we maybe have "rookie" stripes that let the jaded know to cut the newbies some slack?
Link content aside, does this happen too often? Does MetaFilter need to be a nurturing environment? Could we maybe have "rookie" stripes that let the jaded know to cut the newbies some slack?
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