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I'm kind of disappointed to see everyone so cynical lately.
Mmmm. A one-link post to a mediocre commercial.
I dont think there is anything worth discussing about this commercial. [more inside]
I dont think there is anything worth discussing about this commercial. [more inside]
AskMe rerailing request
Stinky Kitty vs. Baby? This post seems to be about to turn into a debate regarding kittens' ability to survive versus infants'. Very interesting.
Seriously, that's not what I mean
Two people have assumed, incorrectly, that I don't think DUI offenders are criminals. I would like to vent without further derailing the thread. (more inside)
We obviously can't have respectful discussions about respectful discussions
We obviously can't have respectful discussions about respectful discussions. Every time the topic comes up, the same insulting "discussion" occurs. Seeing as how no new information is ever presented in these topics, shouldn't they all be considered double posts and deleted? When they are nothing more than another opportunity to display your disgust with someone who disagrees with you, what value do they add to the site?
Boingboing discusses AskMe!
Why was the Canadian election thread deleted?
Why was the Canadian election thread deleted?
Content or quality?
I'm confused. What is more important to mefites, actually responding to the content of FPPs, or rating their quality? I see a general (hence, no links in this question) preponderance to the former. It seems that many responses to posts are actually rating the quality of it and/or the poster, rather than the content of the FPP. I've read a lot of the sites about Metafilter and maybe I'm missing a concept or something.
I am truly not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested in understanding this. Thanks.
I am truly not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested in understanding this. Thanks.
One Line One Link Posts
When is a one-line FPP with no (or little) description appropriate for MeFi?
Oh really? Is that so? Well, is this a good example then [MI]?
Oh really? Is that so? Well, is this a good example then [MI]?
discussion not as expected; how to improve?
I'm kind of dissapointed with the way things turned out in a post I made to Metafilter yesterday. I was hoping to discuss how many of the leaders of the fat acceptance movement are feeders and the consequences this might have in terms of it's future progress. Oh and I also wanted to discuss the new slate piece I linked to. But of 140+ comments, very few seem to even reference the links I made. Most just gave their opinion on fat people . I read all of the comments, and the general consensus seems to be that topics regarding obesity cannot be discussed sensibly at Metafilter. What should I do in the future to make a better FPP and what other topics should I wholly avoid?
Where can I start a discussion without actually linking to something?
Where can I start a discussion without actually linking to something? I want to talk about Katrina ad my opinion on it, on a different slant -- but I don't really think it is good enough for the blue. But I still want to talk with other people from MeFi...
In favor of NewsFilter
In favor of NewsFilter. The impetus; explanation inside.
deliberately cryptic commenting is annoying as hell
In the interest of avoiding further derail of the Aryan Justice thread, I am going to accept amberglow's invitation to bugbread and state that deliberately cryptic commenting is annoying as hell and is counterproductive to the idea of communication.
a limit on how far one particular detail can be discussed
I have a proposal for political arguments that might make them more productive: a limit on how far one particular detail can be discussed. A problem I noticed on this thread is that nothing gets resolved because the discussion revolves around one minor detail.
So I shouldn't talk about guns or declawing cats. What else should I know?
I have some ideas about getting rid of religious fundamentalism, winning the War on Terrorism, and inoculating our nation against ever electing anyone like George Bush to the White House again -- all at the same time and using nothing more lethal than words and a few diagrams.
I'm new here, and I would appreciate suggestions on what I should particularly avoid doing in discussing such matters in this group.
I am also from an older generation, and I am extremely upset about the current atmosphere in Washington, if any of this helps to explain the kind of answers I need.
I'm new here, and I would appreciate suggestions on what I should particularly avoid doing in discussing such matters in this group.
I am also from an older generation, and I am extremely upset about the current atmosphere in Washington, if any of this helps to explain the kind of answers I need.
What's your favorite scam?
This water...
Recent discussions of scams haven’t focused on what interests me about you, Metafilter users.
Tell me, if you please, what’s your favorite scam?
Recent discussions of scams haven’t focused on what interests me about you, Metafilter users.
Tell me, if you please, what’s your favorite scam?
There should be some room for frivolity and banter
Boo. There were a lot of fairly well-thought out and witty references to MetaFilter history, past and present, in that thread before it was closed to further comments and had its middle taken out.
Not every thread here should be a linear progression from a problem to a solution. There should be some room for frivolity and banter. Without it, we lose our sense of community and shared experience.
Discuss.
Not every thread here should be a linear progression from a problem to a solution. There should be some room for frivolity and banter. Without it, we lose our sense of community and shared experience.
Discuss.
Posts that end in a ?
If someone posts a link to the front page that ends in a question mark, are they really linking to the best of the web, or are they just asking a leading question in order to generate discussion of their pet topic? And should we disallow front posts that are just trollish leading questions because they weaken the mefi brand and more importantly drive me nuts?
A warm fireplace with overstuffed chairs
Is anyone willing to create a MetaParlour? [Come into my thread, said the swan to the MeFites]
Links or discussion; which is more important?
What is the appropriate role of links in making FPP’s? A lot of people seem to think that MetaFilter is, essentially, about discussion. But Matt deletes “bad” links, even when they might generate good discussion. Why? If I want to discuss a topic, why can’t I just go and find any old link to start things off? Or can I?
It’s an old topic, but maybe we should adapt to our new users. And short of a definitive pronouncement from Matt, the only way to determine appropriate behavior around here is through community consensus. So: What say you all?
It’s an old topic, but maybe we should adapt to our new users. And short of a definitive pronouncement from Matt, the only way to determine appropriate behavior around here is through community consensus. So: What say you all?
More and more Newsfilter, and boring Newsfilter at that
The pancakes are getting incredibly stale, people.
Metafilter used to be an addiction for me, but lately with more and more Newsfilter, and boring Newsfilter at that, can we really say we are the best of the Web anymore? Final straw was the posting of that Bush daughter photo.
Is this really what we want this place to be?
Metafilter used to be an addiction for me, but lately with more and more Newsfilter, and boring Newsfilter at that, can we really say we are the best of the Web anymore? Final straw was the posting of that Bush daughter photo.
Is this really what we want this place to be?
Can we - even if only briefly - discuss stuff on AskMe?
Can we - even if only briefly - discuss stuff on AskMe or not? This Sopranos thread started off as a question but the discussion of last night's episode was inevitable and almost irresistible. My own opinion, fwiw, is that it would be nice if a little discussion was indeed allowed or, as has happened already, generously overlooked.
A horrible way to begin a discussion
IMHO, this is a horrible way to begin a discussion of a controversial film.
Fine, fine, insult the invisible man here.
In the post regarding the Fred Phelps putting up an anti-homosexual memorial in Casper, Wyoming and the insuing religous discussion regarding said terms, I am posting this thread so everyong can get what they need to say out, whatever it is.
At what point does posting to a thread become pointless?
At the risk of sounding like a newbie (and my user# is embarrassingly large), I have to ask: How long do people read the threads? I often read MeFi in lurk mode, and sometimes don't get around to visiting for a day or two, at which time I will find a thread I would like to comment in, but no one else has posted to for a couple of days. I don't mind missing out on a chance to post a smartass comment, but at times I might have something intelligent to add to the discussion. At what point does posting to a thread become pointless?
Self-linking policy
I'm sure this has been covered before, but I'm fairly new here (to posting, especially), so I thought I'd ask again. Please don't kill me, but:
I've had aspects of a meme-type thing that I helped to create posted about here. These linked to a site I contribute to but, since I didn't ask for or advocate the subject were in the clear.
Now, I've got a site dedicated to the subject that inspired the first game/challenge that the original story was part of. It seems to me that if people here enjoyed the tidbit on the matter they'd like to see the new whole site.
But...it would very obviously be a self-link, and I completely understand the point of outlawing those. What's a guy to do? Is there some third-party I could suggest a link to? Should I wait till a vaguely applicable post comes up and post it in the message boards? Should I just wait around and hope that eventually someone from here manages to find it?
I'd like to participate, but I'm too new to guess at these rules. I'm glad I at least found this area to post in (and I'm hoping that fact will shield me a bit from the flames I'm expecting to receive).
I've had aspects of a meme-type thing that I helped to create posted about here. These linked to a site I contribute to but, since I didn't ask for or advocate the subject were in the clear.
Now, I've got a site dedicated to the subject that inspired the first game/challenge that the original story was part of. It seems to me that if people here enjoyed the tidbit on the matter they'd like to see the new whole site.
But...it would very obviously be a self-link, and I completely understand the point of outlawing those. What's a guy to do? Is there some third-party I could suggest a link to? Should I wait till a vaguely applicable post comes up and post it in the message boards? Should I just wait around and hope that eventually someone from here manages to find it?
I'd like to participate, but I'm too new to guess at these rules. I'm glad I at least found this area to post in (and I'm hoping that fact will shield me a bit from the flames I'm expecting to receive).
First impression of MetaFilter
What was your very first impression of MetaFilter, that first time you visited? [More inside.]
We will discuss whatever is in the links
Posted by nofundy at 2:48 PM EST on March 14:
This so didn't need to be posted. Do we really need to hear yet another pundit's fascinating views on Iraq?
"So you think discussing Eminem would be a better use of time than considering alternate viewpoints on serious issues?"
This so didn't need to be posted. Do we really need to hear yet another pundit's fascinating views on Iraq?
"So you think discussing Eminem would be a better use of time than considering alternate viewpoints on serious issues?"
can any grievance be brought to MetaTalk?
So, can any grievance be brought to MetaTalk? [More inside.]
Last one left turns off the light
Despite MetaFilter's honourable roots and tradition, I get the feeling that a significant and increasing amount of members has no interest whatsoever in web design, computers, blogs, programming or, in fact, anything remotely technical or even geeky. A few seem to be unimpressed by the Internet itself. Are we witnessing the secularization of MetaFilter? Is our future broadly cultural and political rather than Web-specific?
This is a bad post.
Is this another horribly one sided news post, that does more trolling than informing. If the poster had made any attempt at exploring the other side of this issue, he could have included several examples, that show there's enough hypocrisy to go around, when it comes to this issue, but instead we got a lazy, one sided front page post, that was basically an opportunity for a bunch of gun control supporters to jerk each other off.
He could have posted any number of links about the famous arrest of liberal columnist Carl Rowan, who seemed to have an obsession with gun control. At least that is, until he was arrested for illegally keeping a handgun in his Washington DC residence, but that wouldn't have been as much fun I guess.
If your doing a front page post about a hot button issue, shouldn't there be at least a feeble attempt to post links that represent both sides of the debate?
He could have posted any number of links about the famous arrest of liberal columnist Carl Rowan, who seemed to have an obsession with gun control. At least that is, until he was arrested for illegally keeping a handgun in his Washington DC residence, but that wouldn't have been as much fun I guess.
If your doing a front page post about a hot button issue, shouldn't there be at least a feeble attempt to post links that represent both sides of the debate?
Post meh, discussion makes it worthwhile.
In the interest of having a positive example in MetaTalk (rare, I know), I put forth this example. I thought the phrasing of the original link was sub-standard, but after the first few comments the discussion was positive and, as so often happens here, a member with a more in-depth knowledge of the field helped the understanding of others.
I also thought it might be worth mentioning so that those who are upset by his politics and (debatable) trolling can see that fold_and_mutilate does contribute positively in other ways.
I also thought it might be worth mentioning so that those who are upset by his politics and (debatable) trolling can see that fold_and_mutilate does contribute positively in other ways.
we rehash the same things over and over and over and...
One annoying feature of Meta: we rehash the same things over and over and over and...well, you get the point. And we say essentially the same things. Here's the idea: a Meta sidebar that includes common topics, with links to where they've been discussed. There aren't that many, and it would prevent this kind of post unless we come to some new situation where it's really needed.
Some come for the snarky discussion
Danger! An idea is loose! KillkillkillkillKILL!
This guy is obviously an idiot and is best ignored.
Sir I hope your ignorance bites you in the ass.
Farenheit 451, anyone?
I'd like to ask this guy to blow me.
Fuck you....you dumb bastard and your attempts at public debate.
Well! I'm glad to see that the standard of Metafilter discussion is as high as ever! We wouldn't want this place to sink to the level of Fark, Plastic, or Free Republic, heaven forfend.
This guy is obviously an idiot and is best ignored.
Sir I hope your ignorance bites you in the ass.
Farenheit 451, anyone?
I'd like to ask this guy to blow me.
Fuck you....you dumb bastard and your attempts at public debate.
Well! I'm glad to see that the standard of Metafilter discussion is as high as ever! We wouldn't want this place to sink to the level of Fark, Plastic, or Free Republic, heaven forfend.
Why is it not ok to post repeats of old posts?
Why is it necessary to point out to an author, that something that they posted and is being discussed, may have been talked about a year ago? I see this at least 4 - 5 times a week. Point in case today. I personally think this very rude, and falls under the "If you don't have anything productive to say, don't say anything at all" rule. Am I then only one who feels this way?
Anyone want to see my vacation slides?
On initial inspection, this post by y2karl appears to me more suited to his own weblog. For me it just doesn't seem to belong on the front page. It's long winded, with lots of "this" for the links. Yet it seems to work as well..? It seems to highlight a desire for the 'community' to exchange not only ideas and opinions but also experiences and holiday destinations....
Perhaps it's a 'bridge' of a post that signifies a new direction for MeFi?
Perhaps it's a 'bridge' of a post that signifies a new direction for MeFi?
Us declares itself above the law.
Us declares itself above the law.
Other than one or two people here and there talking about the topic at hand, this thread was basically a shouting match and trolling session. Is this the level of debate that now passes for inteligent from the MetaFilter community?
Other than one or two people here and there talking about the topic at hand, this thread was basically a shouting match and trolling session. Is this the level of debate that now passes for inteligent from the MetaFilter community?
Where do you think the posted link links to? *Elsewhere!*
Why get irked over a news item that's been covered elsewhere? Were do you think the posted link links to? *Elsewhere!*
Callout for awesomeness
Kudos to Kottke for initiating and hosting one of the best metablogging discussions of recent weeks. (Cf. Andrew Sullivan's blogging manifesto.) It never rains but it pours.
Where do I put this to discuss it?
I would like to talk about the opening ceremonies of the Salt Lake City Olympic Games. Is it more appropriate on MetaFilter or MetaTalk, or not?
Links that inspire little or no discussion.
Links that inspire little or no discussion. I don't generally play MeFi cop, and this is by no means the worst link I've ever seen, but it really doesn't generate any level of discussion, and frankly invites snarky attempts at wit. What should be foremost in a poster's mind: "Wow factor" or "Hey, I bet folks will want to talk about this"?
Chairman MaOwie
Metafilter -- dictatorship, monarchy, autonomous collective or religion? [more]
I saw it on Fark but want to discuss with MeFites
So there's interesting story (or two) being prominently linked on another site with known readership overlap. I'm interested in hearing the comments of the MeFi community on either. Is that reason enough for a FPP?
Good link and good discussion
Good link vs good discussion: Which is more important? And why is it so difficult to find both in a FPP lately?
Do people actually visit the links they're commenting on?
Here's a thread who's discussion seems to have almost nothing to do with the link it was supposedly based on. I know we've asked this before, but do people actually visit the links they're commenting on? 13018 could be a worthwhile, unique discussion. Instead, to my eye at least, it's mostly people discussing something that's fairly obvious.
Discussing things that have already been discussed
It seems lately there have been a lot of MeTa threads recently discussing things that have already been discussed to a simply ridiculous level of refinement. Is it appropriate to begin encouraging members to search MeTa before posting in the same way people are encouraged to search MeFi?
Discussing discussion: discuss.
Lately, many people have been promoting concepts such as MetaDiscuss, which implicitly attack the concept of discussion on MeFi. But is this what we really want? [More inside.]
Overrun by injokes
Well, so much for serious discussion...I might as well join in Another discussion I was interested in reading gets strangled in the crib by haiku posts, pancake gags, or self-perpetuating running jokes.
Do MetaFilter discussions ever change your opinion on anything?
Do MetaFilter discussions ever change your opinion on anything? [more inside]
9-11 discussions losing strength
Is it just me, or has the wind gone out of MeFi's sails in terms of discussions relevant to the Big Question? [inside]
"Discuss..." is annoying and useless.
MetaFilterians don't need to be instructed to converse. Discuss...