November 2003 Archives (all archives)

November 30

No longer impending

From here:
If you're going to make a post related to Iraq and the impending war, please reconsider, as the topic has been discussed previously many times.
Um. Impending?
I know - a minor quibble.
posted by armoured-ant to Bugs at 8:23 PM PST - 39 comments

November 27

MeFi Numerology Time!

It's do-it-yourself MeFi Numerology Time! 17171, MetaFilter's most recent member has a very good number. So do Rich, who is 123; Eirixon, who is 11111 and, of course, Matt who is number 1 in more ways than one. Now that membership is opening again, good numbers, like primes, become increasingly rare. How long will 17171 remain the coolest? And are there any even cooler numbers attributed to non-posters, like the beastly Hafif, who is 666? [Please delete if this is too silly for words.]
posted by MiguelCardoso to MetaFilter-Related at 3:50 PM PST - 89 comments

Bug in the timestamps in MeFi tabs.

When I view the front page in a mode other than "date" (ie "most comments", etc), the times in GMT are out by 8 hours.
posted by Orange Goblin to Bugs at 7:52 AM PST - 3 comments

November 26

Help with new user signups wanted

¡Finalmente! I'm finally going to turn on new user signups, and I'm shooting for doing it on Monday. But I could use some help [more inside]
posted by mathowie to Feature Requests at 3:49 PM PST - 201 comments

MonkeyFilter: More Bananas, Less Flinging.

As proposed in the recent "new members" thread, the lurker-activist MonkeyFilter is now open for the huddled masses.
posted by Dean King to MetaFilter-Related at 7:33 AM PST - 55 comments

November 25

Pi fine on preview bad on post

The other day I posted a sentence including the Greek letter pi. This appeared as the Greek letter on preview but came out as a couple of question marks in the actual post. Today a post by languagehat included some Kanji characters and a bit later in the thread he says, darn it, ...those characters looked fine on preview. Can someone explain the difference between preview and live posting when it comes to special characters? Thanks!
posted by jfuller to Bugs at 3:32 PM PST - 25 comments

November 24

Deleted Comment of the Day

Deleted Comment of the Day: "I nearly choked on my dinner reading through this hilarious thread - I love Metafilter, but its smartypants members are gonna be the death of me some day."
posted by wendell to Etiquette/Policy at 8:36 PM PST - 22 comments

November 23


posted by Hackworth to MetaFilter-Related at 7:29 PM PST - 219 comments

a completely worthless link that is nothing but anti-women bullshit

So SpaceCadet says that he wants to talk about marriage, then posts a completely worthless link that is nothing but anti-women bullshit. It features, among other things, defense of abusive husbands, the categorization of raped women as "unmarriageable," and the general claim about "how inferior they are to men in every way. Would this sort of thing be tolerated even as well as this has if this were about any other group?
posted by LittleMissCranky to Etiquette/Policy at 2:31 PM PST - 216 comments

November 22

Boston meetup pictures

Boston meetup pictures, round one.
posted by anathema to MetaFilter Gatherings at 9:39 PM PST - 88 comments

Login should return you to where you were

If you're viewing a specific post when you click the link to log in, logging in should return you to that post.
posted by lbergstr to Feature Requests at 4:14 PM PST - 5 comments

November 21

Pony: color-coded user names

Colored usernames. How about a per-user defined option to have usernames show up in custom colors to keep track of users I want to read (red) and users I don't (gray) and everyone else (default). Or some other way to highlight when a user I really like posts without having to memorize lots of names.
posted by stbalbach to Feature Requests at 7:39 PM PST - 42 comments

New Jersey meetup photos November 2003

Pictures from the Mefi Jersey soiree...
posted by lilboo to MetaFilter Gatherings at 10:22 AM PST - 28 comments

November 20

Boston Meetup

Reminder: Boston area MeFi gathering this Saturday, November 22, in Cambridge, MA. More info here.
posted by anathema to MetaFilter Gatherings at 7:44 PM PST - 16 comments

Redundancy for easier searches

Re: Links, titles, and searches. [more]
posted by hama7 to Feature Requests at 6:16 PM PST - 19 comments

Interesting link or Googlebomb?

Interesting link or Googlebomb?
posted by straight to Etiquette/Policy at 9:20 AM PST - 22 comments

November 19

Michael Jackson belongs in jail

I have mixed feelings about hoopyfrood's Michael Jackson belongs in jail post. On the one hand, I agree with the general "don't editorialize" philosophy and its corollary "save it for a comment in the thread." On the other, this isn't exactly the New York Times and a poster's take on their subject is arguably an integral part of the post. "Letting the link speak for itself", when it involves a news item, is all very well - but perhaps keeping one's opinion out of the front page text is also an exercise in obfuscation and even dishonesty. Has current policy on editorializing changed? ( I speak as a frequent editorializer, I should add. Even though I agree "pedophile of pop", with its dubious inverted commas, and all-capitals IN JAIL!, as well as the idea that everyone is innocent until proven guilty except Michael Jackson, are way too extreme a way of going about it.)
posted by MiguelCardoso to Etiquette/Policy at 10:50 PM PST - 84 comments

November 18

Why was my filepile post deleted?

I just had a link nixed about the return of filepile.
posted by Tryptophan-5ht to Etiquette/Policy at 1:13 PM PST - 91 comments

November 17

MetaFilter Purity Test

Inspired by the recent Nerd Purity Test, what questions do you think would belong on a MetaFilter Purity Test? [much more inside]
posted by wendell to MetaFilter-Related at 7:54 PM PST - 167 comments

diversity of opinion here on PinkoFilter

"Why can't homosexuals take responsibility for their role in the propagation of HIV infections? It was their culture and practices that facilitated HIV infection and tipped the balance to epidemic. Even before this male homosexuals known for their association with transmission of disease".

"Queens are pathetic in old age as their protestations about the faults of others fail to hide their wrinkles"

Jesus you people* are hateful, and smug too.

I know that we need more diversity of opinion here on PinkoFilter, but where's the limit (if there is one)? (more inside)

posted by matteo to Etiquette/Policy at 5:48 AM PST - 185 comments

November 15

How close are we on Metafilter?

Amidst all the talk about grudges and nemesii; stalking and vendettas; personal beefs and antipathies, the fact remains that, when you've been on MetaFilter for a while, the chances are that you've also made a few friends - or, at least, established some pleasant, lasting empathetic online relationships. Are they - or can they be - considered friendships? Or are they better considered fleeting and virtual, ready to evaporate at the first hastily answered (or unanswered) e-mail, not worth the paper they weren't written on in the first place?
posted by MiguelCardoso to MetaFilter-Related at 6:28 PM PST - 74 comments

Signups are closed; could we give our unused, inactive accounts to new members?

Bring out your dead! (more inside)
posted by cup to Etiquette/Policy at 3:34 AM PST - 71 comments

November 13

What is cool on Metafilter?

What is cool on metafilter? [A suggested antidote to some bad metatalk vibes]
posted by srboisvert to MetaFilter-Related at 3:08 PM PST - 82 comments

"When they wont stop proselytizing then its a social problem"

"When they wont stop proselytizing then its a social problem"
posted by orange swan to Bugs at 12:08 PM PST - 424 comments

Italic tags

Looks like Metafilter didn't drink its V8 today. Close your italics tags, people!
posted by PrinceValium to Bugs at 7:33 AM PST - 25 comments

November 12

a place for intellectual inbreeding?

Is Metafilter, as a community, in the process of degenerating from a gathering of the web's most interesting minds to a place for intellectual inbreeding? [more]
posted by VeGiTo to Etiquette/Policy at 5:58 PM PST - 264 comments

November 10

Asheville NC meet-up

While we're having MeFi meetup fever, anyone close to Asheville, NC (vaguely metropolitan mountain city about two hours from Charlotte)? If so, I'd be pleased as punch to host a gathering...
posted by moonbird to MetaFilter Gatherings at 7:58 PM PST - 14 comments

So? How was MeFi Vegas 2003?

So? How was (is) MeFi Vegas? How about Vancouver? Is Matt as tall in person as he looks on the internet?
posted by anastasiav to MetaFilter Gatherings at 8:41 AM PST - 44 comments

November 8


Oh no, Mc____ ! - gratuitious, sure - but it's so McFuckingFun™ !
posted by troutfishing to MetaFilter-Related at 11:40 PM PST - 130 comments


So I can't be the only person consistently hitting preview and correcting all my UBB to HTML. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to automagically correct the standardest of standard UBB ([b] [i] [u] are pretty much the only ones I ever use) codes to HTML. So, I'm requesting it as a feature.
posted by kavasa to Feature Requests at 4:17 PM PST - 69 comments

November 7

Metaspar: a proving ground for new members

While reading the recent MetaTalk discussion about opening the doors to new members, I had an idea:

What about creating a new system where people who want to become members can compete for membership?

(more inside)
posted by cup to Feature Requests at 9:54 AM PST - 167 comments

Use of MetaTalk is getting out of hand.

The post below by five fresh fish is a joke. Use of MetaTalk is getting out of hand.
posted by Frasermoo to Etiquette/Policy at 1:32 AM PST - 26 comments

November 6

This thread seems to be broken.

This thread seems to be broken. Just thought someone should know.
posted by EatenByAGrue to Bugs at 6:53 PM PST - 11 comments

Miguel, answer the damn question already, please!

Miguel, answer the damn question already, please!
posted by five fresh fish to MetaFilter-Related at 6:32 PM PST - 31 comments

Can we reopen registration? (11/6/03)

Lockdown: Year one. This comes up every so often, but today is the one year date since Mefi closed its doors to newcomers so perhaps its a good date for a thread on the policy and its continuance. What have been the effects? What will be the long term impacts of continuing the policy?

Also, as one of the late entrants, how come I still don't know why my user number if bigger than the total number of users and how do I do little writing in posts? And why isn't 'Mefi' in the spellchecker?
posted by biffa to Etiquette/Policy at 4:34 AM PST - 119 comments

Dumb comments or is it just me?

Am I the only one who is questioning the intellectual text of Tiamats comments as of late? Sure, i've said some very embarrassing and pointless things in the past, but cmon! This is almost to the point of pointless blather. I guess you could say that I don't know anymore.
posted by Keyser Soze to Bugs at 2:53 AM PST - 60 comments

November 5

a thread about a lazy, fu...

In light of the recent "pat-yourself-on-the-back" thread, I just resisted the urge to type a snarky reply to a thread about a lazy, fu... ahem... a recent thread here in metatalk. I invite you to please resist the urge yourself.
posted by crunchland to Etiquette/Policy at 5:42 PM PST - 30 comments

Sidebar for Meetups

Matt. Way to go on the sidebar entries for upcoming MeFi meetups. It's great to know that the editorial stance of Metafilter isn't just about the good ole' U.S. of A., but also includes all those tiny little countries you may have read about in National Geographic.
[/boiling blood]
posted by seanyboy to MetaFilter Gatherings at 4:57 PM PST - 13 comments

Mefi not showing up as top search result on google

Could we fix this? [More inside]
posted by kickingtheground to MetaFilter-Related at 4:48 PM PST - 36 comments

November 4

Boston Meetup

What: Boston Area MeFi Orgy Party.
Where: Darwin's Ltd., 148 Mount Auburn Street (Harvard Square), Cambridge, MA
When: Saturday, November 22, 2003, 5:00 p.m.
Why: Because this guy being in town gives us a good excuse. [more inside...]
posted by anathema to MetaFilter Gatherings at 4:09 PM PST - 64 comments

Advice on re-posting MeFi to blog?

Advice on re-posting MeFi to blog?

I often repost mefi stuff on my blog, often meaning Several times a week, sometimes multiple times a Day. I have an html template I use but I do keep changing the format a little. I'd be glad for some advice on how to do it right, or acceptably. You can check what I mean at or for short

I'll try to be checking back here, but there is the email link on the page.

posted by Grand Wahzoo to Etiquette/Policy at 3:34 PM PST - 38 comments

Meetup in Vancouver, B.C. Nov. 7th, 2003

What: The Anti-MeFiVegas Party
Where: Nelson Street Café, 655 Nelson Street, Vancouver, B.C.
When: Friday, November 7th, 5:07 p.m.

Yes, this is probably too short a notice for most people. No, don't feel bad if you can't come. Fret not, there will be other meetups in the future. Of that you can be certain, grasshopper.
posted by antifreez_ to MetaFilter Gatherings at 3:02 PM PST - 18 comments

Tons of whitespace between description and comments in MeTa

The topmost thread on metatalk has tons of white(gray) space between the description and the comments/timestamp line. The space seems to coincide with the sidebar. Only when I'm not logged in, using Mozilla Firebird .6 through .7.
posted by angry modem to Bugs at 9:00 AM PST - 30 comments

MetaFilter without the vendettas??

No vendetta here, folks...just topically mentioned (one) prior link in "the blue" and fixed ridyfink's HTML tag.

Hopefully a good example can be made from this good deed.
posted by Smart Dalek to Etiquette/Policy at 5:25 AM PST - 17 comments

November 3

Mefi joisey gathering, anyone?

mefi joisey gathering, anyone?
posted by dorian to MetaFilter Gatherings at 7:25 PM PST - 46 comments

personalities cannot evade policies

i know! i'll get away with this suck filled newsfilter post by invoking the crunchland mojo!!!
posted by quonsar to Etiquette/Policy at 2:43 PM PST - 57 comments



This story is NewsFilter, but not new NewsFilter (which is not so much a problem for me as it is for others) it's OLD news which by definition is not news. Not only that, but the new news of this old story (which was covered in many a place) is that the patent was considered invalid:

"A panel set up to look at the Patent Office has concluded that the current system is not working very well. Given that the USPTO managed to conclude in a breathtakingly fast 12 months that a patent for how to swing on a rope swing was invalid [no, I'm not making this up...], I don't see what the big problem is. Meanwhile, Amazon announced their intention to seek a patent on the printed word, and possibly on stone carvings." from Linuxworld.

Although the poster admits it's old news, this raises the question of why post it at all. It's been widely covered.
posted by Blue Stone to Etiquette/Policy at 11:41 AM PST - 9 comments

Update already linked in original thread

No need for this as the WaPo article was linked in the actual thread a few days ago.

Not a call out or smack down, just a minor admin detail.
posted by i_cola to Etiquette/Policy at 3:32 AM PST - 26 comments

November 2

FPP about a deleted FPP

QuestionableSwami, meet QuestionablePost.
posted by The Michael The to Etiquette/Policy at 9:29 PM PST - 31 comments

Single-link op ed?

Why is this on the front page? For those too lazy to click, "this" is a post that consists of a link to the latest Thomas Friedman column, and a statement that's basically "I agree with what Tom said." One link. No questions.

I went and reread "what makes a good post" and, I noticed, there's nothing about this scenario. If you want to post something with next to no content, that's Newsfilter, and that doesn't seem to be asking any questions to the community, and that only has one link--go ahead. I think there should be some kind of guideline, since this happens at least 2 times a day (or at least, that's my made up statistic and I'm sticking to it). I mean, this seems way more content-less than the fried chicken thread from yesterday.
posted by jbrjake to Etiquette/Policy at 9:46 AM PST - 31 comments

November 1

Too Much Meta-Criticism?

Hmmm. I think one or two levels (depending on how you think about it, that's how it is when dealing with meta-levels, see Princess Bride.) of metalevelness is enough. Critizing a stupid Metafilter FPP should be done in one MetaTalk post, not in an another FPP and Two Stupid MetaTalk posts.
posted by lazy-ville to Etiquette/Policy at 5:18 PM PST - 15 comments

Would MetaFilter be better off without an etiquette/policy section in the gray?

The Pollo Campero discussion is a nice example of members drowning out derailing attempts without resorting to MetaTalk (at least until I fucked it up by bringing it here). Would MetaFilter be better off without an etiquette/policy section in the gray?
posted by rcade to Etiquette/Policy at 6:37 AM PST - 69 comments