November 2002 Archives (all archives)

November 30

Pointless post.

This post does not seem to have any point, nor do the comments.
posted by owillis to Etiquette/Policy at 7:22 PM PST - 32 comments

big, bad idea

This post Shows why giving users control over font size is a bad idea.
posted by nyxxxx to Etiquette/Policy at 3:34 PM PST - 51 comments

November 27

Link and Think

Sunday, Dec 1st is Worlds AIDS Day, and part of the observance that relates to the realm of weblogs is the Link and Think Project.

Like last year, and the year before, I'll be redesigning MetaFilter to use a stark black and white template, and asking everyone to focus every post that day to something related to AIDS and HIV.

I'm posting this now to get everyone thinking about it early. If there is some aspect of the subject that interests you, whether that's how not to get the virus, that it gets too much funding, that pop stars do a bad job promoting awareness, or even that you don't think it exists, I encourage you to do some research to unearth some links to help you craft a post on the matter.
posted by mathowie to MetaFilter-Related at 11:36 AM PST - 49 comments

A political broadside

Am I the only one that doesn't like FPPs that begin the political arguement in the post itself. See a post today for what I mean. Nothing against The Jesse Helms, but the links don't point to anything new. It appears to me to be a political broadside instead of interesting information. IMHO, interesting information is what a 'metafilter' is supposed to provide.

I thought the idea of MeFi was to let discussion occur in the comments, not on the front page.

Or am I way off base and should I head back to Slashdot & the WWDN forums?
posted by Argyle to Etiquette/Policy at 10:49 AM PST - 32 comments

November 26

Cafepress Hoody with extra bling?

Cafepress Hoody with extra bling? With "Pancake Overlords" written in Old English type on the front? In time for the holidays?
posted by eddydamascene to Feature Requests at 9:07 PM PST - 19 comments

I'm wearing my MeFi t-shirt today...

I'm wearing my MeFi t-shirt today, which declares "MF" in big letters on the front. Unfortunately I got my order in before the frontal design changed to read "MeFi" instead of "MF". Did anyone else buy one of these, and if so, did you wear it to the office? What did your coworkers say? Did they call you a MoFo?
posted by TreeHugger to Bugs at 9:19 AM PST - 35 comments

November 25

Why did my post get deleted?

I, uh, made a fpp about 3 hours ago which eventually got deleted. Granted the site probably shouldn't have been linked but could someone tell me what I did wrong? No need to flame, you can email me too. Thanks.
posted by PWA_BadBoy to Etiquette/Policy at 11:49 PM PST - 18 comments

member numbers from the future?

How can Staggernation be member 17200 when the front page says there are 17136 members?
posted by feelinglistless to Bugs at 12:04 PM PST - 78 comments

November 24

MetaFilter IRC is back

MetaFilter IRC is back (in full effect, YO!). Visit: irc:// If your DNS server is caching the old address, use: irc://
posted by chrish to MetaFilter-Related at 8:09 PM PST - 19 comments

when I click "Back" I go to last weekend

Infinitesimal, weird and probably just me: over on MetaFilter, when I click "Back" from a thread it takes me to this weekend's We're still working on the upgrade notice. [IE 6, W2KPro]
posted by MiguelCardoso to Bugs at 7:50 PM PST - 12 comments

a little calendar of upcoming MetaFilter events

Sorry to be posting again so soon, but, pursuant to Smart Dalek's request, I've put together a little calendar of upcoming MetaFilter events in iCal format. Nothing too fancy, just me manually adding events to the calendar as I receive them. Nothing is on the calendar yet, so submit something, already. Details on subscribing to (if you use iCal on Mac OS X 10.2.1 or later) or viewing the calendar are here. Hope you like it.
posted by mcwetboy to MetaFilter Gatherings at 7:19 PM PST - 6 comments

Ontario & Quebec MeFite Meetup Mailing List

I've taken the liberty of setting up a mailing list for MetaFilter members in Ontario and Quebec, in the hope that it will help us get our act together and organize a MeFi get-together, whether it's in Montreal, Ottawa or Toronto (see previous attempts here and here). Or whatever else suits us.
posted by mcwetboy to MetaFilter Gatherings at 5:41 PM PST - 2 comments

Flash Friday bumper sticker.

Yesterday, I saw a bumper sticker on a pickup truck that said, "Flash me, it's Friday!" Is this the origin of Flash Friday on MetaFilter?
posted by faustessa to MetaFilter-Related at 3:11 PM PST - 4 comments

Server up

Server's back up. Not all the updates are done, but the server should be exactly the same as before.
posted by anildash to Uptime at 2:49 PM PST - 29 comments

November 23

Sorry about the downtime.

Sorry about the downtime. I was dicking around with the server a little. Things should be back to normal now. More downtime tomorrow, perhaps as I finish the upgrades.
posted by anildash to Uptime at 7:01 PM PST - 12 comments

What happened to my Black Friday post?

I posted a thread about retail price plans for major retailers being publsished on websites ahead of time. The retailers were ticked. The story questioned if this was a freedom of speech issue or did the retailers have a right to demand the information be removed.
The thread was removed. Was it the subject or the link to an audio news story?
posted by hockeyman to Etiquette/Policy at 8:40 AM PST - 6 comments

Is Google indexing broken?

When I wanted to do a search to find out if someone had linked to a given site in a FPP yet, I decided to try something different. I went to old google and put in this URL, which was the link in the most popular FPPof the day exactly two weeks ago, as a "who link's to you?" search.

Shouldn't google have indexed the thread, then, since it links back to the original article? Strange, that it doesn't do this for a link and lenghty thread on a topic that will have serious implications for everyone on the internet, specifically Americans? Has google dropped the ball? Is this all just a bunch of Tom-Foolery?
posted by Hammerikaner to MetaFilter-Related at 12:20 AM PST - 8 comments

November 22

Bad one-link news-style post

A good example of a bad one-link, news-style post. [more]
posted by The God Complex to Etiquette/Policy at 9:47 PM PST - 12 comments

What's with the naming conventions around here ?

sorry , but i just gotta ask . . .
in my referer logs is :

whats with the naming conventions around here ?
posted by mishaco to MetaFilter-Related at 9:42 PM PST - 13 comments

November 21

Just curious

Just curious: I posted Wanda Hudak's phone number in a thread regarding her vile "25-cent bullet" comment; now it is gone.

As a public official, I do believe that she should be accountable for her official statements. Is posting a number which is a matter of public record a violation of MeFi etiquette and/or policy? Apologies, of course, if it is. I will respect the community/mathowie's wishes...but I will continue to think posting it was, and remains, valid.
posted by adamgreenfield to Etiquette/Policy at 10:56 PM PST - 36 comments

Metafilter IRC?

Is Metafilter IRC gone for good?

Is there now a quota of nearly zero on political and geopolitical threads? I never got the memo.
posted by ParisParamus to Etiquette/Policy at 4:33 PM PST - 18 comments

MeFi Search for Exact Phrases Using Speech Marks?

Mefi search functionality and double posts. Using google extensively I've developed the habit of searching for phrases by using speech marks in order to retrieve more specific results. Metafilter search doesn't seem to support this feature, and partly as a result I made a double post, after searching for "moon trees" instead of moon trees. I'll know for next time, but could more double posts result from other new users with the same habit? Possibly.
posted by nthdegx to Feature Requests at 2:07 PM PST - 24 comments

This isn't memepool, links don't have to be surprises.

Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, Good, Good. What am I talking about? Ttles (the ones that go in the page title and into the RDF feed). Please remember, they're not room for an extra little joke, they're supposed to be informative of the topic. This isn't memepool, links don't have to be surprises.
posted by fvw to Etiquette/Policy at 11:04 AM PST - 18 comments

FPP post chauvanistic sniggering, poor commentary followed

Is this really necessary? A front-page post consisting almost solely of chauvinistic sniggering at the name of an indigenous group? And it's not redeemed by the discussion.
posted by lupus_yonderboy to Etiquette/Policy at 8:33 AM PST - 33 comments

How can I contact a member with no email shown?

Okay - I need some help. There is a member here who I would like to contact privately to ask a question without derailing a blue thread. Unfortunately, this member has not provided an email address on their user page. [more inside...]
posted by Irontom to Etiquette/Policy at 7:25 AM PST - 36 comments

November 20

font sizes in pixels

Is it possible, or even a good idea, to have font sizes in pixels rather than or in addition to the current scheme (which is in points)?
posted by moz to Feature Requests at 6:35 PM PST - 18 comments

"not safe for people who don't want to see gay porn?"

Question in regards to WolfDaddy posting a link labelled not safe for work or people who haven't seen Queer as Folk. Shouldn't that have read "not safe for people who don't want to see gay porn?" I'm pretty sure what I saw, but I don't want to double-check. Just let me know if that was fair warning or I should sue for temporary blindness.
posted by son_of_minya to Etiquette/Policy at 5:14 PM PST - 93 comments

Preventing reposts of deleted stories

This dangling baby . . . it vibrates? Every time Matt kills a "Jacko's dangling baby" post, another pops up to replace it. We've talked about this before, but I think the (general) question needs to be raised: What, if anything, can be done to prevent reposting deleted stories? It's been pointed out that posters may not know that they're posting something that has been deleted before because, um, it's been deleted before! (And with wacky news like this, there can be any number of sources for the same story, sorry.) Short of deleting the story every time it pops up, is there a better solution?
posted by mcwetboy to Etiquette/Policy at 5:10 AM PST - 79 comments

November 19

I want to break a rule here and propose a shoutout

I want to break a rule here and propose a shoutout - a cheerleader post, if you will indulge me. I note a immense upward jump in the quality of both MeFi and MeTa posts and comments, with a corresponding downward jump in noise, trolling and trash. I note comments by Matt have a more relaxed tone than in the past few weeks. I see discussions kept to a mostly civil if not downright respectful tone. I observe efforts running the gamut from herculean to humorous by members like frykitty, y6y6y6, waxy, riffola, adrianhon, et al, to help make this wondrous place ever more enjoyable and user friendly. I want to say thank you, to everyone. [*Cue Dorothy, who taps heels of ruby slippers 3 times, chants "There's no place like Metafilter, there's no place like Metafilter, there's no place like Metafilter...*]
posted by Lynsey to MetaFilter-Related at 8:09 PM PST - 21 comments

it might be good policy

Once again, I found myself trying to follow a link to the New York Times with a username and password I'd forgotten. I wondered if it might be good policy for people to post searches to these links instead. For example, the recent link ...
An astonishing bequest could easily have been written out as An astonishing bequest, and would not require people to log in.

posted by seanyboy to Etiquette/Policy at 11:18 AM PST - 17 comments

November 18

Wall Street Journal Mention

MeFi in the WSJ!

While the online version is only accessible to paid subscribers, the WSJ today (Monday) did a special section on the Internet ("How to ... entertain children ... search the web ... find friends ... etc.). One was "Find a Blog". MeFi was mentioned two or three times ... in fact it was the Blog recommmended as the one to start with (and in fact the first one mentioned in the article itself).

Kudos Matt. Yet another in a growing list of public recognitions of your skill and committment.
posted by MidasMulligan to MetaFilter-Related at 9:00 PM PST - 21 comments

Here's a draft of FAQ.

Got a deep question? The draft of the FAQ is up.
posted by frykitty to MetaFilter-Related at 12:18 PM PST - 64 comments


"Once again, for the fourth time, I have been banned from, and censored by, for politically incorrect speech."
posted by waxpancake to Bugs at 11:42 AM PST - 58 comments

November 16

Metafilter: reported as inaccessible in China.

Testing complete for Result: Reported as inaccessible in China
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood to MetaFilter-Related at 12:58 PM PST - 25 comments

Is this really a worthwhile contribution?

posted by Pancake Overlord at 9:40 AM PST on November 16 {more inside}
posted by anastasiav to Etiquette/Policy at 11:10 AM PST - 51 comments

There seems to be a problem with the RSS Feed

There seems to be a problem with the RSS Feed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood to Bugs at 10:08 AM PST - 11 comments

November 15

What's the difference between Post Title and Link Title?

So, um... what's a POST TITLE, and how is it different from a LINK TITLE?
posted by crunchland to MetaFilter-Related at 9:05 PM PST - 7 comments

Weird blank section showing up in Mozilla

Just posted this thread in Mozilla. Reading the front page in Mozilla briefly showed a huge blank section between the last line of my post and the "posted by" line. The blank section didn't show up in IE and is fixed now in Mozilla. What happened? (FWIW, I'm absolutely sure I didn't include 25 or so blank lines at the end of the post.)
posted by mediareport to Bugs at 11:12 AM PST - 4 comments

November 14


Product posts (aka: epinionsFilter). Whether extolling the virtues of Shure Headphones or the insanely great price Gateway has on its new plasma screen televisions, what are the guidelines to prevent MetaFilter from becoming a free advertising medium to reach the e-fluential?
posted by 4easypayments to Etiquette/Policy at 12:12 PM PST - 27 comments

is morphic related to pickover?

is morphic related to pickover? 2/4 comments and 7/10 fpps have included pickover links (there's no email listed or i'd have made enquiries first). i'd dig out more examples, but i'm supposed to be working - it's not clear to me whether someone's being naughty, or just very fond of that site... [oh, and please can we not have the usual lynch mob aggressive doodah if there is something fishy going on?]
posted by andrew cooke to Etiquette/Policy at 11:50 AM PST - 8 comments

Is the anti doublepost code broken?

Is the anti doublepost code broken? [1, 2]
posted by mr_crash_davis to Bugs at 10:24 AM PST - 17 comments

RSS feeds and bugs

Two observations and a question. [more outside]
posted by hama7 to MetaFilter-Related at 3:23 AM PST - 14 comments

November 13

Informative, but...

Welcome to "Me"tafilter.
posted by Wulfgar! to Etiquette/Policy at 2:22 PM PST - 51 comments

I would like a MetaFilter thong please...

I would like a MetaFilter thong please...
posted by machaus to Feature Requests at 7:35 AM PST - 38 comments

Is it bad form to invoke the name of another mefite in a thread they are not participating in?

I was recently reprimanded in a thread (politely, I should add), for invoking the name of a mefi regular who was not a participant in that thread at the time.

Is this poor form on my part, or is *the mefi who must not be named* being over-sensitive?
posted by backOfYourMind to Etiquette/Policy at 2:14 AM PST - 15 comments

November 12

thanks matt!

thanks matt!
posted by jcterminal to MetaFilter-Related at 7:33 PM PST - 32 comments

Threads Have Titles Now?

Hey - if this isn't a new feature, or if I missed a memo, please tell me, but does each thread have it's own title now? I only ask because when I just thought better of posting to the "pancakes" thread and saw "Prattling On About Pancakes" up in the title bar, it startled me a wee bit, and now I see that each thread is similarly titled. New thing?
posted by yhbc to MetaFilter-Related at 7:31 PM PST - 20 comments

Searching Metafilter

Searching Metafilter: on first search, threads and users only. Thereafter, other options appear. Bug, or crap browser (IE5.5, W98)?
posted by walrus to Bugs at 5:23 PM PST - 8 comments

The Ebbs and flows at this joint fascinate me.

Am I just imagining it, or is there a lot less posting going on to Metafilter in the last few days. This is not necessarily bad, but the political threads are almost absent, and just the number of contributions is down. The Ebbs and flows at this joint fascinate me.
posted by ParisParamus to MetaFilter-Related at 5:21 PM PST - 17 comments

Linking to Word Docs

What do we think about posting links to Word documents? I have no opinion on this myself, but I think it's worth discussing. Should there be guidelines on linking to things that are not web pages (or PDF files)?
posted by mcwetboy to Etiquette/Policy at 12:26 PM PST - 17 comments

Quiet periods save resources

It's Tuesday, 8:42 PST, and there are only three posts on the front page - surely a record. Perhaps if users distributed their posts better over the 24 hours (and according to their timezones) there wouldn't be so much crowding? Quiet periods can easily be identified and this might be a way to avoid the rush, spread out and save resources.
posted by MiguelCardoso to MetaFilter-Related at 8:47 AM PST - 50 comments

November 11

Add google to MeTa search page

Certainly not a pressing need but I'd appreciate it if you could add the google search to the MeTa search page just like we have it on the MeFi search page.
posted by gen to Feature Requests at 3:09 PM PST - 10 comments

November 8

What's a good post?

Dragging the dead horse out for it's monthly beating. [more inside]
posted by y6y6y6 to Etiquette/Policy at 8:39 AM PST - 200 comments

The about page, when signups were closed (2002)

The About Page says: hear some philosophies guiding the site and community, check out the new user message.

However, since signups are closed, the new user message no longer says much. Maybe whatever text was there (minus the signup form, of course) could be placed somewhere else so people can read it?
posted by staggernation to Feature Requests at 8:29 AM PST - 2 comments

November 7

Can Posts Have Titles?

A while back there was a discussion about the non-informative RSS/RDF/XML feed titles, due to the fact that metafilter/metatalk threads don't have 'titles' as such. Could we perhaps have a an extra field in the 'post an FPP' form marked 'Post title' or something that was less than some arbitrary limit of characters long and could be used for things like the feeds, and more importantly (and the reason I'm requesting this) for page titles.
I tend to open all the links I want to read in one go. When I click on the "(n new)" link I don't go to the top of the story, and so when I get to the page after reading other FPPs, I don't know what this story's about anymore, and can't glance at the document title for a hint of the general subject as with many sites.
posted by fvw to Feature Requests at 4:30 PM PST - 7 comments

Are there some "hot button" topics that are sure to send any thread into a deadfall?

I recently posted a thread about a nike shoe ad that I found interesting, and it did not go over well. How does one post a thread about an ad that you would like to show for the ad's sake, not the product? how do you assure the community that you are not part of some viral ad campaign?

Are there some "hot button" topics that are sure to send any thread into a deadfall?
posted by quibx to Etiquette/Policy at 9:10 AM PST - 24 comments


Poemfilter? I know we've entered into this territory many times before about movies, foods, beer, and recently politics, but is Metafilter really the place to post Nobel-prize winning poets on the front page?
posted by rodz to Etiquette/Policy at 7:29 AM PST - 59 comments

Hard-to-read trackback

Trackback is almost illiegible in the plain text theme (black text on dark blue).
posted by monkey closet to Bugs at 4:23 AM PST - 7 comments

November 6

Making Metafilter a better place

What can we do as a community to make Metafilter a better place? [more inside]
posted by Stan Chin to Etiquette/Policy at 4:29 PM PST - 108 comments

Why was this deleted?

Uh... why was this deleted? I can only assume, thanks to Grangousier's sarcastic comment, that it was deemed to be a dupe of this, but if that is the reason, someone needs to look again. While the original post was commenting on the removal of Ellen's ad from Apple's site (it's since come back), there have been no other posts about Ellen's ad and Ellen herself.

Apart from anything else, ripping articles from the front page without informing the poster and telling them why is not a good way to encourage new users to post good links. It's just demoralizing.
posted by Mwongozi to Etiquette/Policy at 11:40 AM PST - 21 comments

We don't do politics well, so here are some other sites....

Matt's deletion of this particular smudge of excrement drives home a point: for the most part, I feel that we don't do political discussion well. Anyone care to recommend some other sites better suited to political wrangling? I'll start with Poliglut.

posted by PinkStainlessTail to MetaFilter-Related at 10:29 AM PST - 154 comments

Newsy pet-issue post.

Newsy pet-issue post. Goose or Gander?
posted by hama7 to Etiquette/Policy at 4:01 AM PST - 16 comments

November 5

Awesome info in "breaking news"

A "breaking news" thread we can all admire. Bravo, Hammerikaner.
posted by briank to MetaFilter-Related at 6:49 PM PST - 8 comments

Is MetaFilter better on the weekend?

Is MetaFilter better on the weekend? [more inside]
posted by mcwetboy to MetaFilter-Related at 9:14 AM PST - 29 comments

"All posts are (c) their original authors"

"All posts are © their original authors". That's what it says at the bottom of this page. My question: is that true, and is it true whether it says so or not? A friend who owns a mailing list has been threatened with a liable suit by a person who feels they were "defamed" in a post by a member. Is the list owner really responsible for what members post? Could Matt be sued for members rants about real people, and is there a difference (as an example) between saying "Ashcroft is an asshole" and "I think Ashcroft is an asshole"?
posted by Mack Twain to Etiquette/Policy at 8:27 AM PST - 22 comments

November 4

What is the consensus regarding posting images to the front page?

What is the consensus regarding posting images to the front page? I don't have issue with it, I am just wondering. I find no mention of it in the guidelines, but I never see it happen....
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood to Etiquette/Policy at 9:45 PM PST - 47 comments

Warnings for FPPs

[Bracket Etiquette]: For the benefit of users old and new and Metafilter usability in general, what warnings are considered essential or helpful when posting to the front page? [Possible list inside.]
posted by MiguelCardoso to Etiquette/Policy at 7:26 PM PST - 29 comments

Thread closure timeliness

This thread is over 3 days old, and has been closed for archival purposes. [more inside]

posted by stinglessbee to MetaFilter-Related at 8:43 AM PST - 28 comments

November 3

They're onto us, and our random logins!

I don't know about you but it looks like the New York Times got wise to the NYT Random Login Generator which mr_crash_davis hipped us all to back in April. All of a sudden I got a log in prompt when I clicked on an article and all I'm getting now is an error message when I try to log on with it. And you?.
posted by y2karl to MetaFilter-Related at 11:55 PM PST - 20 comments

Have we found God yet?

Have we found God yet? Not picking on this post per se, but last week we had this (142 comments, so you'd think the issue had been pretty thoroughly hashed out), and before that a bunch more that I listed here, and I'm starting to wonder what the point is. NewsFilter posts get annoying, but at least the news changes; God's either there or He/She/It ain't, and I don't think we're going to find out by arguing about it on MeFi. If everybody else enjoys the never-ending discussion, fine, I'll just skip the threads, but I thought I'd ask.
posted by languagehat to Etiquette/Policy at 12:03 PM PST - 23 comments

MeFi pro?

Is mefi pro still coming?
posted by djacobs to Feature Requests at 11:38 AM PST - 9 comments

November 2

custom MetaFilter baseball t-shirts are now available

No one asked for it, but I figured what the hell: custom MetaFilter baseball t-shirts are now available.
posted by mathowie to MetaFilter-Related at 4:45 PM PST - 102 comments

There is a minor bug with the text stylesheet.

There is a minor bug with the text stylesheet. The a:hover in the head class is not declared, causing the text to disappear into the white background when moused over.
posted by xyzzy to Bugs at 10:24 AM PST - 18 comments

November 1

Warez link bad

Umm, maybe I'm wrong about this, but doesn't your last link expose both you and Matt to criminal prosecution under the DMCA?

Of course, that doesn't mean that I don't appreciate it.

posted by Smart Dalek to Etiquette/Policy at 7:02 PM PST - 6 comments


Is Metafilter the place to post PSAs now?
posted by rushmc to Etiquette/Policy at 2:39 PM PST - 46 comments

What happened to the moratorium on op-ed politics pieces?

Despite this and this, today we have this.
posted by i_cola to Etiquette/Policy at 7:55 AM PST - 29 comments