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If you thought I was going to be a typical neophyte/scumbag and ask "What's with the boxes
?" then you're sadly mistaken, my friends. I know full-well it's old hat
, and that's why you won't hear a peep out of me.
posted by Ljubljana to Bugs at 12:09 AM PST - 24 comments
? Or maybe we should just shoot ourselves
because we all hate America so much
. Does MetaFilter have a term yet that abbreviates "Telling me I should leave the country because I disagree with your viewpoint is a tired, wasted, pathetic retort, and all it does is make you look like a loser with nothing new to contribue to the conversation?" Maybe if we make one we can discourage its apparent growing abuse. Thanks, all.
posted by XQUZYPHYR to Etiquette/Policy at 10:31 AM PST - 52 comments
I am trying to add information to my userpage and I get the following error:
Variable USER_MATCH is undefined.
The Error Occurred in C:\metafilter sites\www.metafilter.com\contribute\customize_action.cfm: line 59
posted by Winterfell to Bugs at 6:34 PM PST - 9 comments
I'm confused. I posted
what I thought was a typical interesting link, but I guess it didn't pass muster, since it was dumped. What gives?
(I linked to it from my K5 diary
. Now I have cleanup there to do.)
posted by tbc to Etiquette/Policy at 4:56 PM PST - 10 comments
Now that membership has opened again, how about greeting new members on the front page just after they've joined with something like, 'Metafilter welcomes [insert link to username and profile'. It's always good to get a hug when you arrive at a party.
posted by feelinglistless to Feature Requests at 1:43 PM PST - 62 comments
can we have a moratorium on all the internal squabbling? I thought that was what Metatalk was for. This morning there are two posts
(so far) in which the comments have devolved into little more than how bad the original post is. Can't we just let Matt delete the bad threads?
posted by Secret Life of Gravy to Etiquette/Policy at 8:21 AM PST - 15 comments
In Windows XP version 2002, using either Mozilla 1.1 or IE6, renders Metafilter with really big letters that make reading the site difficult. Anyone got any solutions?
posted by moz to Bugs at 5:30 PM PST - 16 comments
It's not a hoax, it's fiction.
Marquis has apologized for any potential offense, and hey, it was cleverly done. Going forward, is a "fictional" post more appropriate for a blog? Does this exploit the membership for one's own purposes, however artistic? (But don't all
posts do that?) Or is it a question of trust?
Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!
posted by onlyconnect to Etiquette/Policy at 11:05 AM PST - 33 comments
Often, I will be reading MeFi on a work or other computer and am not logged in. When I see a thread that I'd like to contribute to, I log in from the "Login" link on that thread...which dumps me back out on the front page. Is there any way to have the Login link on a comments page dump back to that particular page after you've logged in?
posted by Vidiot to Feature Requests at 9:06 AM PST - 3 comments
Has anyone ever put out MeFi keychains, mugs, t-shirts, etc.? Is there any interest? I would be proud to wear such "self link" items.
posted by kevin123 to MetaFilter-Related at 1:58 PM PST - 15 comments
Just curious - I saw a post on the front page about an Enron auction this afternoon. I look a couple hours later and it's gone. Was it my imagination? What happened? and who makes decisions like these?
posted by kevin123 to MetaFilter-Related at 1:48 PM PST - 15 comments
I'm new to Metafilter, at least as a poster anyway, and I have been less than satisfied with the quality of my comments, especially my front page post. I think my dissatisfaction comes from my lack of experience in posting to a forum that has such a high expectation for quality. This tends to create a bit of hesitation in my posting, which results in over editing and an extremely stiff writing style. Of course the best way to overcome that, is by commenting frequently in order to become more comfortable and fluid in my comments and post. The downside to that, of course, is the possibility of tripping all over myself, in an otherwise quality message thread. This is very frustrating to me, because I see the type of poster I want to become, and I'm not sure how to get from here to there.
Making matters more difficult is my lack of computer knowledge. As an example, I love the option of renaming a url, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to edit multiple urls into a single paragraph.
If anyone has any helpful hints on how to gain experience as a front page poster, without making a mess of things in the process, I'd love to hear them. I've also sniffed around the web looking for a handy guide to url editing, and I've not had any luck, so if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.
posted by Beholder to MetaFilter-Related at 7:30 AM PST - 33 comments
Question #1: Are there any plans for a Mozilla Calendar/iCal plugin which would state the tentative dates for future swaps/meetups?
Question #2: A number of folks (myself included) occasionally visit MeFi/MeTa via PDA; for the sake of those "handheld immigrants", could a downloadable version of the Guidelines
be made available for offline viewing?
posted by Smart Dalek to Feature Requests at 7:29 AM PST - 6 comments
Oi! I'm a sucker for middle-east threads (and regrettably get irrationally wound up in them) (especially Israel/palestine ones)
, but the sheer number of similar front page posts in recent days has been exhausting and exhaustive. The topic is covered on every major news site.
What happened to "posting something interesting I've found on the web"?
posted by hama7 to MetaFilter-Related at 6:38 AM PST - 37 comments
Fake markup = unneeded closing tags? Anyways, the text layout is broken and the font's screwy. Please fix
posted by Su to Bugs at 2:41 PM PST - 7 comments
If I'm making something out of nothing, please let me know.
However, I was wondering if we could possibly put a stop to FPPs that report on every new feature at the Google website? Considering the hand-in-hand nature of MeFi users and Google, it seems to be a given that we will all discover these new features by ourselves...
Yes, I know, we can discuss the usefulness of these new features. However, since when was MeFi a web-tech / design forum? Google is cool, but I use the site dozens of times every day — as I'm sure most MeFI users do. I don't really think we need burning missives telling us that a new tab has been added. It's not like Google is crowded; we're not going to miss seeing it ourselves.
Like I said, if I'm completely off base, I'm more-than willing to concede.
posted by Dark Messiah to Etiquette/Policy at 8:19 AM PST - 60 comments
What's the relationship between kuro5hin and MetaFilter?
Searching MeFi for discussion about kuro5hin.org
didn't answer my question. The site founder, Rusty Foster, does have a MeFi account, but his comments
don't help much, either.
It's been said at both sites that the readership overlaps, and both sites seem to be compatriots in the community blogosphere, but I was somewhat surprised that K5 readers (well two, at least :-) didn't buy buying my assertion that K5 didn't have to link
to a certain story
because MeFi already had done so. Then I realized that MeFi readers would probably say the feeling's mutual.
I'm relatively new to MeFi, but I think I'm a quick study. It seems to me that because of that site's structure, K5 is more suited to long, developed, original stories. Its sophisticated mojo system (comment ratings, etc.) and nested comments allow more thorough discussions. But MeFi feels much more like a traditional blog -- updated several times a day with brief links and comments. K5 favors technology and culture stories, while MeFi is much more eclectic.
I hope other, more experienced MeFi members who also hang out at kuro5hin.org will elaborate.
posted by tbc to Etiquette/Policy at 3:54 PM PST - 32 comments
How about sticky threads? You know, one thread that stays at the top of the page where everyone can post their War on Terrorism Link of the Day
and then say the same thing about it that they did the day (or hour) before?
posted by Mick to Feature Requests at 9:15 AM PST - 28 comments
To avoid cluttering up the front page, is it OK for those of us who come across a lot of interesting links to use our user pages
to list some of those we'd like to share but probably won't merit much discussion? I'm worried about using up bandwidth and the old accusation of using MetaFilter as one's personal blog.
If it's OK, what's the acceptable limit? Would five or six links be acceptable? Or should the opportunity be used (as some, like Zachsmind, have done) to list some of our favourite MetaFilter threads, for example? Please advise.
posted by MiguelCardoso to Etiquette/Policy at 8:58 AM PST - 32 comments
Spell check problem - if the text being checked has character entity sequences >
when spell check completes they will be replaced in the textarea with greater-than or less-than signs. My browser is: Mozilla 1.1 -- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826.
posted by chipr to Bugs at 12:27 AM PST - 9 comments
I can't post comments at all: when I click "Preview", I do not see any preview and there is no "Post Comment" button. It's not a browser-display issue; I checked the page source and no preview or submit form is being sent.
posted by Mars Saxman to Bugs at 7:19 AM PST - 16 comments
I haven't been on-line -- and so visiting Metafilter -- for some time (three months). Can anyone suggest some key threads I should read to catch up? I just logged onto the front page only to be told there have been over 1400 threads since my last visit ... would anyone like to volunteer to be archivist?
posted by feelinglistless to Feature Requests at 5:09 AM PST - 18 comments
We've just turned over 16,000 members according to the front page. Our lucky number 16,000 is hans_1984
who wins this lovely MetaTalk thread. Welcome aboard, Hans!
posted by timeistight to Bugs at 11:47 AM PST - 76 comments
noticed a link I posted yesterday was removed? why? It would be nice for any moderator or higher up to e mail someone telling why the link was removed
posted by hoopyfrood to Etiquette/Policy at 7:05 AM PST - 23 comments
Have you considered a 'Back to Top' feature? Would be useful for those long threads where one needs to re-examine the original post....
posted by dash_slot- to Feature Requests at 9:51 AM PST - 15 comments
Does MeFi have an RSS feed? I searched around, but couldn't find one...hopefully I wasn't missing something obvious...if there isn't one, could there be?
posted by Orange Goblin to Feature Requests at 9:10 AM PST - 10 comments
I noticed this thread
--in case it doesn't last) earlier and noticed that the poster, BarneyFifesBullet
, mentioned that he'd searched for the topic and hadn't found it. A cursory search, however, turned up that it had, in fact, been posted a few months earlier. Long story short, I noticed that the default setting when you use the search function on MeFi sets the drop-down menu to "in the past month" which seems like it could be the culprit in a case like this where the poster seems to have searched unsuccessfully for a previously-posted link. It doesn't seem like something that would be frightfully hard to chance, and it might save us a few double posts...
posted by The God Complex to Feature Requests at 12:12 AM PST - 22 comments
Are you a MeFi Lefty or a MeFi Righty? I honestly don't get what comments like this one
are getting at, or what they would prefer to see happen here. The lack of specificity in most of these complaints doesn't help. I see good and bad arguments getting called out regularly, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. What am I missing?
posted by mediareport to Etiquette/Policy at 4:49 PM PST - 60 comments
This one got me to thinking…
I was surprised that someone who had been a member for over 2 years had just now posted their first story. I’m curious about other demographic oddities and averages like that.
Who holds the record for the most threads?
Many more questions inside....
posted by Blake to Bugs at 10:00 AM PST - 189 comments
Sometime today, or quite possibly early tomorrow, MetaFilter will hit thread number 20,000. Personally, I think everyone should shut up once we hit 19,999 and let Matt do whatever he feels like with number 20k. Anyone agree? Other thoughts?
posted by Ufez Jones to MetaFilter-Related at 8:23 AM PST - 89 comments
Su has a point here
. Wouldn't it make searching a lot easier, as well as being fairer to the original authors and more descriptive in general if users could mention the name or title of a linked item in their lead post or, at least, in a follow-up ("more inside") comment.
As it is, I fail to see how Su could have detected tomplus2's May 2002 post, unless he arbitrarily searched for "graffiti" or some other term which isn't exactly apposite.
posted by MiguelCardoso to Etiquette/Policy at 7:10 PM PST - 28 comments
are too wide (on standards-compliant browsers). "www.ArtSwag.com" and
"STICKERS*PINS*SHIRTS For angry ranters and the people who love them" are two examples. It increases the width of the in which it and the sideblog are nested, thereby reducing the width of the main content column, not to mention leaving a large gap between the right-hand page margin and the sideblog.
The culprit seems to be the title field. A multiworld title with spaces will wrap in the ad-box; the above two examples are long (but within 20-char limit) one-word titles. Can something be done?
posted by rschram to Feature Requests at 5:01 PM PST - 15 comments
Since it got bumped down below the front page, here it is again: Madison Metafilter Meet tonight. The Plaza. Nine P.M. Who's coming? Should we wear name-tags?
posted by interrobang to MetaFilter Gatherings at 8:49 AM PST - 26 comments
Opera users now see the a page margin on the homepage, where there wasn't one before (presumably due to a change in the style sheet).
posted by kickingtheground to Bugs at 6:14 PM PST - 19 comments
With the sideblog open, there is currently a vertical gap on the front page running the entire vertical distance between the last line of the description in the "Today some of us thought it..." post, and the line with Miguel Cardoso line. The gap disappears in the sideblog is closed. This is in my Mozilla for PC.
posted by ParisParamus to Bugs at 11:10 AM PST - 6 comments
"Um, isn't this a kinda sorta double-post? [/meanie]"
"This thread is over 30 days old, and has been closed for archival purposes."
So it being a repost is not relevant. I propose a mortatorium on such statements
, now that it is hard coded that threads are officially dead after one month. Comments pro & con are welcome herein.
posted by ZachsMind to Etiquette/Policy at 8:32 AM PST - 12 comments
There's this site that I visit fairly regularly. The creator of this site creates these cool (IMO) online illustrated one page stories. I think that many folks at MeFi might enjoy the site, but there is (what I perceive as) a problem. One of the sites I write for is one of this guy's front-page links....
posted by Joey Michaels to Etiquette/Policy at 5:16 PM PST - 16 comments
(Mozilla 1.1 WinXP) While I was able to post a comment to a FPP on MeFi the Bold, Italic, and link tag buttons were missing.
posted by dirtylittlemonkey to Bugs at 1:28 PM PST - 4 comments
Annoying problem: Every single time I log into MetaFilter I have to go through the login process twice before it actually works. It always works the second time, never the first. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
posted by TurkishGolds to Bugs at 1:15 PM PST - 8 comments
I've been thinking of a September 11 post that could stand as an hommage without being restrictive or cheer-leading. I wonder if we could all build a thread made of nothing but links without words... [More inside
posted by MiguelCardoso to MetaFilter-Related at 6:27 PM PST - 52 comments
From my point of view as a newbie, MeFi has grown beyond the ability of new people to quickly assimilate the unwritten rules of searching, communicating and posting without ruffling at least one person's feathers within the week suggested by the About
and Posting Guideline
It's time for MeFi to take the leap and encode a written policy document
that's centrally located and easy to find, instead of relying on newbies to read literally years (3/26/2000 to 9/9/2002) of etiquette/policy
postings on MetaTalk to shore up the scant information available on the official MeFi links about posting.
We've got 15,000+ users; it seems like we've enough of a community to put together a policy committee to slap a policy together for the use of all members, new and old. Let it be one that we all can find easily, and read in a reasonable amount of time.
posted by kalessin to Etiquette/Policy at 2:19 PM PST - 51 comments
"it requires registration and i'm not willing to get one for the paper"
This in response to a "Big Brother" FPP
in which I included a username and password IN THE POST ITSELF for those who don't want to register themselves.
Can't people read?
posted by Irontom to Etiquette/Policy at 9:07 AM PST - 11 comments
Perhaps this is just me, but I find posts crop up fairly frequently on metafilter with little or no indication within the post of what the linked site actually contains. Clicking links on the half-chance they are going to take you somewhere of interest is a little frustrating - I know it makes me a lot less inclined to follow the link at all - and as a result I'm possibly missing out.
Not to mention numerous accessibility issues
, isn't it simply bad practice?
Apologies for not linking to any example posts - I'm not feeling at all confrontational today. No apologies if this has been discussed before - it seems to be an issue, and I think therefore worth discussing again.
posted by nthdegx to Etiquette/Policy at 6:05 AM PST - 10 comments
I'd like to suggest that there might be a bit of a danger these days of stripping some potential away from the site. A lot of new users are being called out (or belittled) rather promiscuously for posts or comments that are often no different than what they have been accustomed to seeing from Metafilter elders pre-14k (as well as post-14k). Vigilance is worthy and needed in order to protect the integrity of Metafilter, but I suspect that there is a risk of creating an atmosphere of paranoia in which many promising new members will be afraid to post anything that they are not absolutely certain will not reap condemnation. (more inside...)
posted by taz to Etiquette/Policy at 1:40 AM PST - 67 comments
Having just posted a comment, and having had a pang of worry over an unintentional snarkiness implied by an italicisation, i continued to the thread on james randi
which seems to be about to blow up due to the charming "Fuck you and your know-nothing smugness." comment. An unanswearble, i guess, but what is with these peeps?
posted by robself to Etiquette/Policy at 11:13 AM PST - 32 comments
I wonder if it wouldn't improve the discussions if the comment feature would only come up after the posted link was visited. Too often reactions are to the post and previous comments, rather than the issue posited in the link.
posted by semmi to Etiquette/Policy at 10:10 AM PST - 13 comments
yesterday, on./ was reading an interesting discussion about a product when someone accused the poster of Viral Marketing, in effect really trying to grab publicity off of ./ while they're covertly under contract to the company they are posting about.
Today, in a very useful MeFi discussion, someone raised the Same Suspicion
Whether Octavius is correct or not, I think there's no reason to doubt that firms are cropping up to harness communities and blogs to plant publicity on the net. On its face, it would likely be far more effective advertising than a pop up or TV commercial... Once the corporate heavyweights catch on, it could get quite excessive and sneaky.
But it could seriously undermine a community since to some extent, we'll all start scrutinizing the motives of any given post and poster.
Could well be the beginning of the end (or at least the end of the beginning) of the innocence for MeFi etal... Any ideas on how to contend with this?
posted by BentPenguin to MetaFilter-Related at 8:33 AM PST - 39 comments
How to turn off broswer colors (for those wanting to modify MefI to be more work friendly, a thread that pops up here occasionally). More inside...
posted by internook to Feature Requests at 8:02 AM PST - 7 comments
I am disturbed by the conversations attacking the original poster in F&M's post on warcrimes (sorry I don't know how to hyperlink without the button.) I found the post well reasoned, free of ideology, and providing important considerations regarding future military action in Iraq. If someone had a legitimate complaint about the post it seems it should have been made here. To denegrate the post, the poster, and those who responded thanking the poster seems juvenial and small minded.
posted by pjgulliver to Etiquette/Policy at 5:09 PM PST - 72 comments
Isn't it internally ironic that when you run your post through a spell check, it gets caught on the term "MeFi"?
posted by BentPenguin to Bugs at 10:14 AM PST - 13 comments
Just because it's "another Coulter thread"
doesn't mean raysmj ought to piss all over it with his off-topic opinions on proper journalistic style. How many other threads have been similarly derailed by snarks on the writing style or site design of the linked page?
posted by mcwetboy to Etiquette/Policy at 8:44 AM PST - 64 comments
Since sign-ups were turned back on the thread count has been growing rapidly. With September 11th coming up, we'll almost certainly see thread 20,000 within the week. The last base-ten rollover
passed with little fanfare. Should we ignore the significance of #20k? Use it for elitist ego stroking? Perhaps pancakes are in order...
posted by nathan_teske to MetaFilter-Related at 3:22 AM PST - 10 comments
Those Harry Potter Threads.
Reading today's Harry Potter thread (now deleted) some people mentioned that the reason it was getting posted so much was because there is no previous record of it on a search, and that multiple similar posts had been deleted. Okay, repeated posts should
be deleted, but why isn't the original one anywhere to be found? It's a bit Farkesque, but still not a bad
link, per se.
posted by wackybrit to Etiquette/Policy at 8:38 PM PST - 47 comments
What would happen to Metafilter if Matt (heaven forbid) were to get hit by a bus or something? Is there a contingency plan in place? I could have just emailed Matt about this, but I thought some other people might also be interested in the answer.
posted by internook to MetaFilter-Related at 1:31 PM PST - 46 comments
Where are the policies? Specifically, I know that I can't post front-page stories because I either haven't been a member long enough or haven't posted enough comments, but how long and how many is it?
I can't find the details of this policy anywhere on MetaFilter or MetaTalk.
posted by mrmcsurly to Etiquette/Policy at 11:37 AM PST - 3 comments
Um...I posted a link a little while ago and now the thread is gone. Did I double-post or something bad and didn't know it? It was about the Greek government outlawing electronic games...
posted by dnash to Etiquette/Policy at 9:43 AM PST - 5 comments
If I go to login at the bottom of a thread in MetaTalk, the link gives me a CF error
, but it works if I login on the index page. (Looks like an obsolete link or something easy to fix.)
posted by mkn to Bugs at 8:29 PM PST - 1 comments
My font 'n' size customization displays just fine on MeFi, but doesn't seem to take effect here in MetaTalk. I'd like to have the customization on both pages. Is there anything I can do, or is that just the way it's gon' be? I appreciate any suggestions. (Win 2000, IE 5.)
posted by boomchicka to Bugs at 7:20 PM PST - 6 comments
For all the new members struggling to come up with a witty name,here are some suggestions
Can I change my login to "GSV Just Another Victim Of The Ambient Morality"?
posted by signal to MetaFilter-Related at 4:21 PM PST - 13 comments
I know it has been discussed before
, but this post
's link to the light version does something different: it brings up the print dialog [ie 6/xp and moz 1.0/xp]. I'd prefer the regular version to a page that decides to open the printer dialog for me.
posted by birdherder to Etiquette/Policy at 1:43 PM PST - 4 comments
There is an onslaught coming. In nine days it will be the one year anniversary of 9/11
. What is our policy with FPP on that day? Are there guidelines for such "busy" day?
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood to Etiquette/Policy at 11:21 AM PST - 57 comments
I've just posted a story to the front page, and for whatever reason, it appears to have been deleted. Now, that in itself is fine - I can handle the rejection! But I would however like to know *why* it was deleted. Is it not possible to have some form of message left to offending user, informing them of why their post has been deleted?
posted by metaxa to Feature Requests at 6:24 AM PST - 19 comments
While the fad still exists, does anyone else have an issue with the textad for the Ellen Feiss parody?
(scroll to nearly the end of the page) I'm not crazy about promoting profit from the theft of someone's likeness without their permission, but then again, this isn't my site. Should the bylaws of the textads merely weed out offensive material, or should they extend to intellectual property issues as well? While they may be two different things, a recent story on NPR highlighted that cafepress is deleting "Ellen Feiss" related stores as fast as they are created.
posted by machaus to MetaFilter-Related at 11:30 AM PST - 21 comments