April 2009 Archives (all archives)

April 30

Metafilter Runs: RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!

Metafilter Runs: RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE! (Anyone up for a run?) [more inside]
posted by Jinkeez to MetaFilter-Related at 7:09 PM PST - 45 comments

Bueller? Bueller? Do you even exist?

The Ferris Bueller Fight Club Theory, discussed by /film. [more inside]
posted by SpacemanStix to MetaFilter-Related at 1:26 PM PST - 123 comments


This post seems to be italicizing my entire Recent Activity page.
posted by Sys Rq to Bugs at 9:50 AM PST - 4 comments [closed]

Super late last minute Melbourne hot date with some hot chicks

Super late last minute Melbourne hot date with some hot chicks [more inside]
posted by goshling to MetaFilter Gatherings at 6:49 AM PST - 10 comments

Let's do it

Berlin meet-up? [more inside]
posted by creasy boy to MetaFilter Gatherings at 4:42 AM PST - 25 comments


MarkovFilter? [more inside]
posted by Meatbomb to Bugs at 3:55 AM PST - 50 comments

April 29

also on: pianoroll.org

Can we add 8tracks as a social service for the profiles? [more inside]
posted by Potomac Avenue to Feature Requests at 5:06 PM PST - 23 comments

K1000 resurrection

Old AskMe post resolved. In 2004, I asked about getting a jammed Pentax K1000 fixed. -> [more inside]
posted by mwhybark to MetaFilter-Related at 10:41 AM PST - 27 comments

Favorite Navigation

These two pages have pagination at the bottom. These three pages do not. Can we have the same ability to navigate into the past of "favorited by others" as we do for "favorites from," or would that be a huge pain in the ass?
posted by dersins to Feature Requests at 9:56 AM PST - 23 comments

April 28

Recommendations for MeFi Music Contacts

Whose activity should I be watching on Metafilter Music? [more inside]
posted by Effigy2000 to MetaFilter-Related at 4:21 PM PST - 39 comments


Ask MeFi's "Felon Bueller" thread gets picked up by Mental Floss and Jezebel.
posted by Joe Beese to MetaFilter-Related at 2:49 PM PST - 114 comments

But weed is also often associated wtih poor black people

Wow, that's kind of racist. And chatfilter. WTF?
posted by loquacious to Etiquette/Policy at 12:07 PM PST - 100 comments [closed]

Word Wrap

Is this a word-wrapping bug? [more inside]
posted by dunkadunc to Bugs at 9:08 AM PST - 3 comments [closed]

Cut from the thread!

Re: this post -- I noticed that a couple of comments were removed (including mine), with no commentary. Isn't it usually customary to note what was removed and why? [more inside]
posted by puckish to Etiquette/Policy at 5:00 AM PST - 88 comments

April 27

WoW in social apps?

Can we add World Of Warcraft to the list of social apps on the preferences page? I stay in touch with a lot more people through WoW than I do through IM, Facebook, etc. I think just adding it to the dropdown would be adequate. People add their name and server in whatever format they wanted. "Ragma(Windrunner)" or something.
posted by y6y6y6 to Feature Requests at 3:51 PM PST - 29 comments

View source is a cool tool, after all

Is it just me, or has Cool Tools ganked the color scheme from the blue?
posted by adamrice to MetaFilter-Related at 12:53 PM PST - 54 comments

Chicago May MeetUp

It's nearly time for the May Chicago MeFi meetup! [more inside]
posted by wfrgms to MetaFilter Gatherings at 11:05 AM PST - 39 comments

April 26

Update on post about Icelandic prime minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir

Update to a closed thread: Earlier this year Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir was appointed by the president and parliament of Iceland to be caretaker prime minister until new elections could be held, in the process becoming the world's first head of government to be openly gay. Yesterday she lead her Social Democratic party to victory in parliamentary elections, ensuring that she will continue to serve as prime minister for the foreseeable future.
posted by Kattullus to MetaFilter-Related at 8:36 PM PST - 49 comments

Happy birthday, cortex!

Cortex turns 30 today. Hiccups: gone. Pants status: unknown. Metafilter contributions: Awesome!
posted by lukemeister to MetaFilter-Related at 9:33 AM PST - 161 comments

April 25

I have no mouth and I must tell Metafilter about my cousin's awesome website

Does Projects work for everything that would be a self-link on MeFi? Or is there a hinterland of things created by friends, relatives and other loved ones that are too self-linky for FPPing, but aren't yours and so can't go in Projects? Are things which fall into this hinterland doomed to fall softly onto the forest floor of the internet, unheard and unseen? [more inside]
posted by Acheman to Etiquette/Policy at 1:38 AM PST - 42 comments

April 24

Hit the road ?

has anyone seen jackmo ? [more inside]
posted by sgt.serenity to MetaFilter-Related at 4:17 PM PST - 126 comments

Sf meetup?

SF meetup? Dinner probably sometime next week, although I'm down for doing something this Sunday as well.
posted by sidr to MetaFilter Gatherings at 12:49 PM PST - 14 comments

Shades of Meaning

Fresh? Just posted? Moments ago? What's the difference? [more inside]
posted by ocherdraco to MetaFilter-Related at 11:31 AM PST - 43 comments

April 23

DrossFilter - brute force thread cleanser

As a bit of a brain saver I've made a GreaseMonkey script that hides every comment in a discussion on mefi that has less than 5 favourites. [more inside]
posted by hifimofo to MetaFilter-Related at 7:09 PM PST - 206 comments

Metafilter on BBC Click

Metafilter was featured on the >Webscape segment of BBC's Click. The latest episode is not up on their site yet.
posted by hariya to MetaFilter-Related at 12:59 PM PST - 33 comments

Why can I favorite via Recent Activity, but not Flag?

Why can I favorite via Recent Activity, but not Flag?
posted by anastasiav to Bugs at 12:31 PM PST - 52 comments

Favorite tagging

Another favoriting discussion. With very many users having hunderds, and some thousands of favorites, it can become unweildy navigating favorites. If they are indeed intended as a bookmarking tool, it would be helpful to be able to tag them so we can find things we intend to come back to in the future.
posted by bigmusic to Feature Requests at 1:48 AM PST - 95 comments

April 21

MetaTwitter? (or, Kill It While It's Young)

Is the @ tag really welcome in MetaFilter? [more inside]
posted by hippybear to Etiquette/Policy at 8:54 PM PST - 320 comments

40: scatterplots and baseball porn

The big four-oh, this podcast features recaps from around the site for the last three weeks. It was recorded on April 17th and runs about an hour and ten minutes. [more inside]
posted by mathowie to MeFi Podcast at 5:37 PM PST - 40 comments

braindead baby jokes fall under the 'unfunny' category

Can we have a cleanup on this unfortunate baby thread? [more inside]
posted by leotrotsky to Etiquette/Policy at 5:01 PM PST - 485 comments

Add six more colors to that website, please!

What's this? Some sort of website that has countdown until I get banned? [more inside]
posted by sixcolors to Etiquette/Policy at 4:54 PM PST - 16 comments [closed]

MeMu Makes Me Sad

Music pony request - make the MefiMusic home page not crash my browser. :( [more inside]
posted by motty to Feature Requests at 12:59 PM PST - 7 comments


So, I thought this site was pretty amusing until this. Just something to consider before you send a wrongcard.
posted by Slarty Bartfast to MetaFilter-Related at 12:20 PM PST - 142 comments

Seattle Meetup, with sun and booze

Seattleites: rtha and gingerbeer are going to be in town the weekend of May 9th. How about we have a meetup? [more inside]
posted by mrzarquon to MetaFilter Gatherings at 10:13 AM PST - 68 comments

Notification for deleted posts?

So earlier this morning I posted something innocuous but inane in an askme thread that had been more or less answered. Just now, logging in, I see that that comment has been disappeared. This is fine, and not particularly worthy of complaint, but I find it sort of annoying that there's no notification or anyway for me to know that the reply was ever made at all. [more inside]
posted by cmyr to Feature Requests at 7:54 AM PST - 70 comments

April 20


One reason a dog can be such a comfort when you're feeling blue is that he doesn't try to find out why. [more inside]
posted by Smart Dalek to MetaFilter-Related at 7:34 PM PST - 35 comments

internet blockade

What are "Internet Blockades"? [more inside]
posted by donfactor to MetaFilter-Related at 5:56 PM PST - 61 comments

Mefi Meet Up at My Bloody Valentine Gig

Any Denver (area) MeFites going to see seminal indie, loud-as-hell shoegazers My Bloody Valentine on Friday (April 24th) at the Fillmore? [more inside]
posted by NailsTheCat to MetaFilter Gatherings at 5:49 PM PST - 16 comments

30 days isn't always 1 month

Are MetaTalk posts closed to comment after 30 days or one month? [more inside]
posted by twoleftfeet to Bugs at 5:02 PM PST - 60 comments


Whatever you're doing with Metafilter's mobile access, keep it up. [more inside]
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing to MetaFilter-Related at 4:36 PM PST - 23 comments

Metafilter Radio Set A Raving Success!

Thank You To Anyone Who Contributed To This Thread [more inside]
posted by Lipstick Thespian to MetaFilter-Related at 9:28 AM PST - 27 comments

London meetup?

London meetup next week? There's a catch... [more inside]
posted by backseatpilot to MetaFilter Gatherings at 9:17 AM PST - 34 comments

April 19

When a user plans to get an AskMe thread deleted

Should a user purposely post something in their AskMe thread, with the idea that they can get it or the thread deleted or made anonymous later?
posted by Brandon Blatcher to Etiquette/Policy at 12:52 PM PST - 152 comments

Ahmadinejad calls for rights for Saberi & MeFi's Hoder

Iranian President Ahmadinejad calls on judiciary to allow the jailed Iranian-American Roxana Saberi and MeFi's Hoder to "enjoy all freedoms and legal rights to defend themselves and their rights are not violated," [more inside]
posted by Nice Guy Mike to MetaFilter-Related at 10:06 AM PST - 22 comments

April 17

Music for Recovery

Looking for mixtapes (Hey, I'm old. And it still sounds better than mix-cds). [more inside]
posted by tejolote to MetaFilter Music at 8:53 PM PST - 26 comments [closed]

Nesting posts

Posts within posts? [more inside]
posted by carsonb to MetaFilter-Related at 5:15 PM PST - 42 comments

cortex vs. NYC: the meetupening

I'll be in NYC soon (from Thurs. April 30th to Sun. May 3rd) for Gel 2009 and I'd love to have a meetup. mathowie will be in town too! [more inside]
posted by cortex to MetaFilter Gatherings at 12:34 PM PST - 161 comments

April 16

chococat creates something new on the internet

...in which chococat creates something new on the internet.
posted by geos to MetaFilter-Related at 6:31 PM PST - 129 comments

Go Jessamyn West, young man, and get out of the country.

Jessamyn will travel around the world with me from now on [more inside]
posted by HE Amb. T. S. L. DuVal to MetaFilter-Related at 12:49 PM PST - 104 comments

Sing out, Louise! in Projects

Is it okay to post event-like things to Projects? [more inside]
posted by ocherdraco to Etiquette/Policy at 10:03 AM PST - 43 comments

April 15

Area Girl Kissed, Assisted, Released

Update: Jill Sobule's first fan-funded album The California Years has arrived. (Previously here, here, here, and here.)
posted by hermitosis to MetaFilter-Related at 10:01 PM PST - 51 comments

Will you please clarify linking etiquette?

Is it considered acceptable to link to users so I may see their activity? [more inside]
posted by cranberrymonger to Etiquette/Policy at 8:45 PM PST - 91 comments

Law to biology in about 900 easy steps with help from Askme

Local Askme Girl Makes Good [Thanks everyone!] [more inside]
posted by palmcorder_yajna to MetaFilter-Related at 1:32 PM PST - 67 comments

Carrboro Cookout Meetup

Cookout meetup in Carrboro? [more inside]
posted by solipsophistocracy to MetaFilter Gatherings at 1:03 PM PST - 44 comments

Très très fort

Staff Benda Bilili have an album out! I'm sure you remember them from when flapjax at midnite made your day with this post. [more inside]
posted by robinhoudt to MetaFilter-Related at 9:21 AM PST - 11 comments

April 14

Questionably useful use of Python

Script for turning exported MeFi comments into XML, if you're into that sort of thing. [more inside]
posted by Kadin2048 to MetaFilter-Related at 9:21 PM PST - 27 comments

I can has awesome New Orleans party?

Official 10th Anniversary New Orleans Meetup thread in 3...2...1...Go! [more inside]
posted by radioamy to MetaFilter Gatherings at 10:46 AM PST - 108 comments

Tired of signing in

Whenever I quit Firefox, it loses my authentication so I have to sign into Metafilter again. It didn't always do this, but for some reason, it does now. [more inside]
posted by PeterMcDermott to MetaFilter-Related at 5:22 AM PST - 29 comments

MetaFilter in the Ruins

"Nuclear warheads launched from North Korea, Iraq, China, Iran, U.S., Pakistan, India, and France have all but destroyed 22 of the world’s 50 largest cities." [more inside]
posted by cashman to MetaFilter-Related at 4:41 AM PST - 83 comments

April 13

Find me a thread?

Can you help me find a thread that I am pretty sure existed? It was by DaShiv, about his photos. [more inside]
posted by sneakin to MetaFilter-Related at 4:12 PM PST - 23 comments


the difference between "answering" and "replying". [more inside]
posted by radiosilents to Etiquette/Policy at 12:21 PM PST - 502 comments

The alphabets are spelled A B C D

What is an alphabet thread, and where did the term come from? [more inside]
posted by Night_owl to MetaFilter-Related at 11:10 AM PST - 152 comments

April 12

Answer a question, give someone their life back!

Thanks MeFites! I've followed up on my question about ADD.
posted by matty to MetaFilter-Related at 6:32 PM PST - 15 comments

are medical questions above chatfilter?

Just curious and trying to understand the norms here: would this ask me medical question be chatfilter if instead of asking for reader's reactions to a given medication, it had asked for something else, say, "your experience with going to Stanford"?
posted by peter_meta_kbd to Etiquette/Policy at 5:58 PM PST - 79 comments

All non-dispassionate responses will be culled. That is all.

Why were my answers removed from this AskMe? [more inside]
posted by wfrgms to Etiquette/Policy at 3:32 PM PST - 166 comments

April 11

user page quote about a house razed and a family

I'm trying to find a quote from someone's user page I think, about a house razed and a family slayed. [more inside]
posted by skwt to MetaFilter-Related at 9:38 AM PST - 30 comments

April 10

1M: Corduroy Is My Guinea Pig

This inaugural episode of the new Metafilter Music Podcast supplement is hosted by cortex and features an interview with and music by Corduroy, as well songs from lovermont, chococat, micayetoca, and The World Famous. It runs just under 36 minutes. [more inside]
posted by cortex to MeFi Podcast at 8:28 PM PST - 60 comments


Not so much a callout to thread behavior as a..."really?" This is the thread in question. [more inside]
posted by TomMelee to Etiquette/Policy at 8:26 PM PST - 176 comments

Talk to Strangers Again

Hey guys, remember way back in 2005 when I had that AIM bot that let you talk to random people on the net? It melted down frequently due to some restrictions of the AIM network, and I lost interest in it. Apparently, the community didn't because people have MeMailed me about it since. I talked about doing a AJAX version, but never got around to it. So I thought you might like to hear that someone else did. [more inside]
posted by phrontist to Etiquette/Policy at 6:09 PM PST - 12 comments

Free music for fre

So, you have to be a member to download songs from Mefi Music? IS that really fair?
posted by Citizen Premier to Feature Requests at 5:59 PM PST - 47 comments

It's still good, but...

Is AskMe somewhat less awesome than it used to be? [more inside]
posted by 2or3whiskeysodas to MetaFilter-Related at 4:38 AM PST - 147 comments

April 9

First Interactive Fiction Contest Final Judgements

The first annual Interactive Fiction Contest is over and it's time to wrap up judging. We have a few votes in, but I encourage everyone to sign up and play the games that were submitted, and vote on your favorites. [more inside]
posted by Deathalicious to MetaFilter-Related at 10:39 PM PST - 38 comments

Vancouver ahoy.

Vancouver. Before the weather becomes too nice, shall we meet? [more inside]
posted by heeeraldo to MetaFilter Gatherings at 9:51 PM PST - 11 comments

MeFi D&D game?

AD&D playing mefites--- How about a campaign? [more inside]
posted by empath to MetaFilter Gatherings at 4:18 PM PST - 79 comments

Way too lazy to scroll.

Pony For Wicked Lazy People Request: Can we get a button to go immediately to the "post comment" area on our recent threads? [more inside]
posted by grapefruitmoon to Feature Requests at 1:40 PM PST - 200 comments


Is there a good way to find my deleted posts? [more inside]
posted by plexi to Feature Requests at 10:59 AM PST - 80 comments

What CAN'T his beard lift?

Update on this project, which became this thread on the blue: turns out eamondaly's beard can lift a 50-pound child. [more inside]
posted by ocherdraco to MetaFilter-Related at 9:46 AM PST - 21 comments

Favs Broken?

Are favorites broken? I'm trying to add a few this morning and when i click the +, it just sits there saying "adding..." Same in IE and Firefox. Anyone else having this issue?
posted by KevinSkomsvold to Bugs at 5:40 AM PST - 67 comments [closed]

April 8

Trash talking

Is there a reason for not having a search facility in the podcasts section? [more inside]
posted by tellurian to Feature Requests at 10:18 PM PST - 16 comments

Web Trend Map 4 - The Final Beta-ing

This (http://informationarchitects.jp/web-trend-map-4-final-beta/) is way cool, but I can't find dear old Metafilter. It's either me peepers, I'm a bit dim, or it isn't there. The author is taking submissions for inclusion, might I suggest we do that? (Note- I assume no responsibility for this post if Metafilter is indeed included)
posted by mattoxic to MetaFilter-Related at 8:15 PM PST - 3 comments [closed]

Thanks for my pony?

Thanks for my pony? [more inside]
posted by butterstick to Feature Requests at 10:43 AM PST - 38 comments

What the dilly yo?

Why was my post bumped? [more inside]
posted by LilBucner to Etiquette/Policy at 5:53 AM PST - 217 comments

April 7

How about a *real* policy on spoilers?

Could we have a real documented policy on spoilers, ideally enforced by the people who approve the posts in question? Is it *really* necessary to approve posts (Warning: multiple "House" spoilers!) that are basically spoilers as read, or that have unwarned *spoiler* links? Perhaps all spoilers should be in the "more inside" section, with a prominent warning in the description field?! If multiple people are complaining that a post basically spoiled the episode, then what's the point of expecting the *spoilers!* or *NSFW* courtesies from posters at all, if no such standards actually exist?
posted by markkraft to Etiquette/Policy at 2:53 PM PST - 192 comments


My little pony request: "oldest" and "newest" links on the comment/post activity pages.
posted by swift to Feature Requests at 11:09 AM PST - 9 comments

Sidebar date format is US only

The date format of the sidebar is a bit confusing to non-US readers 4.06.2009 reads as the 4th June to me. Could it be formatted in a less ambiguous way: 4 Jun 2009 or 2009.06.04
posted by Lanark to Feature Requests at 10:23 AM PST - 58 comments

Is this the record for number of links in a FPP?

Is this the record for number of links in a FPP? I count 106.
posted by Joe Beese to MetaFilter-Related at 10:03 AM PST - 46 comments [closed]

MeFi prevents brain damage!

Hey, AskMefites, thanks for potentially saving my life. [more inside]
posted by desjardins to MetaFilter-Related at 8:56 AM PST - 53 comments

MeFi iPhone app?

Would it be legal for me to write/distribute a metafilter iPhone app? [more inside]
posted by crayz to MetaFilter-Related at 8:41 AM PST - 34 comments

They're all talking about me behind my back...

Is there a way to figure out who linked to a specific comment? [more inside]
posted by Riki tiki to Feature Requests at 3:01 AM PST - 8 comments

April 6

Where did they go?

So when did lofi stop showing deleted posts? Is this a new feature or a temporary bug?
posted by caddis to Bugs at 10:39 PM PST - 15 comments

Should people posting videos to Metafilter watch the whole thing first?

Should people posting videos to Metafilter watch the whole thing first? [more inside]
posted by Nelson to Etiquette/Policy at 12:24 PM PST - 72 comments

ThePinkSuperhero saves DC from boredom.

DC Meetup! ThePinkSuperhero is finally coming to visit the nation's capital and we are obliged to celebrate her arrival. Mark your calendars for Saturday, April 25th. [more inside]
posted by mullacc to MetaFilter Gatherings at 11:27 AM PST - 56 comments

April 5

Victim Blaming

Anonymous Ask Metafilter question seeking help making sense of a tramautic experience is met with victim blaming [more inside]
posted by mlis to Etiquette/Policy at 10:24 PM PST - 324 comments

Let's hear it for popechunk!

I'd like to point out popechunk's conduct here as being an exemplary...um...example of how to have a reasonable and informative disagreement on MetaFilter, and elsewhere in general. [more inside]
posted by baphomet to Etiquette/Policy at 8:09 PM PST - 37 comments

Get A Free Book for Easter! Visitor's Day (The Metafilter Collaborative Novel)

Remember that proposed Metafilter Collaborative Novel? It's here! It's called Visitor's Day, it’s free and you'll find the links you need to download it inside this thread. [more inside]
posted by Effigy2000 to MetaFilter-Related at 12:49 PM PST - 71 comments

April 4

Embarrassing stories site thing

A few years ago someone posted a link to a site which featured comic strips of embarrassing stories from people's school days. Does anyone remember the site? [more inside]
posted by popcassady to MetaFilter-Related at 8:44 AM PST - 21 comments

Chrome Needs Polishing

Links to specific comments don't work for me when using Chrome (with Vista). [more inside]
posted by Pater Aletheias to Bugs at 5:39 AM PST - 20 comments

Tiny White Boxes

Why do I have a persistent little white box the same size as profile images, right next to the actual profile images? And why does this same box show up when I try to upload a new profile image? [more inside]
posted by scrump to Bugs at 12:19 AM PST - 12 comments

April 3

Was this FPP really THAT Farkish?

Was this FPP really THAT Farkish? [more inside]
posted by ZenMasterThis to Etiquette/Policy at 8:12 PM PST - 70 comments

Dude Mentions MetaFilter

From the Blue to the Gray: MythBuster and MeFi's own Adam Savage answers questions from Reddit users. Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3. [more inside]
posted by aheckler to MetaFilter-Related at 2:35 PM PST - 87 comments

I Dislike Chatfiler Deletion of Ouch

I don't like the chatfilter deletion of Ouch (I had posted a comment but not posted the original question) [more inside]
posted by peter_meta_kbd to MetaFilter-Related at 4:02 AM PST - 165 comments

April 2

I love New York in the springtime

NYC Meetup, Friday, April 10th, 8:00, Sixth Ward. Everyone had their birthday parties already and BSG is over so I don't want to hear any excuses. [more inside]
posted by zoomorphic to MetaFilter Gatherings at 9:32 PM PST - 41 comments


Hey! I thought we didn't do people's homework for them. What gives? [more inside]
posted by Baby_Balrog to Etiquette/Policy at 12:22 PM PST - 82 comments

April 1

Jailhouse Crock

Patnok's comment in this askme is over the top, and really is a rant rather than constructively answering the question. [more inside]
posted by mattoxic to Etiquette/Policy at 7:12 PM PST - 8 comments [closed]

Welcome to Meta

There's a town called Meta. [more inside]
posted by little e to MetaFilter-Related at 11:30 AM PST - 104 comments

Make fun of yourself!

Celebrate April Fools Day by writing a parody of yourself. [more inside]
posted by grumblebee to MetaFilter-Related at 10:49 AM PST - 295 comments

I'm in love with Massachusetts!

I'll be in Boston between the 7th and the 17th and would like to get together. [more inside]
posted by brujita to MetaFilter Gatherings at 8:21 AM PST - 64 comments

The day has come.

We're going to be experimenting with some gentle scaling back of Metafilter's scope and services. [more inside]
posted by cortex to MetaFilter-Related at 8:00 AM PST - 489 comments [closed]

April Fool's Day Moratorium

Important site announcement re: April Fool's Day. [more inside]
posted by Meatbomb to Etiquette/Policy at 7:12 AM PST - 64 comments

Yes, more internet-bacon stuff

MeFi's own EmpressCallipygos and Greg Nog appeared on Good Morning America during the Bacon Takedown on Sunday in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. [more inside]
posted by Optimus Chyme to MetaFilter-Related at 6:45 AM PST - 48 comments

Less small, please

Is there some new convention developing, where comments that are direct responses to a previous commenter have the <small> tag applied? I think it's better if you don't do that. Example. [more inside]
posted by Kirth Gerson to Etiquette/Policy at 4:14 AM PST - 67 comments