November 2001 Archives (all archives)
November 30
Discussing things that have already been discussed
It seems lately there have been a lot of MeTa threads recently discussing things that have already been discussed to a simply ridiculous level of refinement. Is it appropriate to begin encouraging members to search MeTa before posting in the same way people are encouraged to search MeFi?
Where is the mefi IRC channel?
Oh where, oh where is the mefi IRC channel?
I'm a IRC addict and I wouldn't mind chatting with other mefi members.
I'm a IRC addict and I wouldn't mind chatting with other mefi members.
User Callout
I just wanted to commend Carol Anne for being linkeriffic. Glad you spend so much time here.
Spinsanity: numbers growing
“In the meantime,
">Spinsanity’s number of unique viewers each month has risen from 432 in April [‘00] to 40,000 in October [‘01].”
No website comfigured at this address?!?!
ColdFusion cannot parse empty templates.
Cannot process fille
The requested file "C:\METAFILTER SITES\WWW.METAFILTER.COM\NONMEMBER_QUERY.MEFI" has length zero. ColdFusion cannot parse empty templates.
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The requested file "C:\METAFILTER SITES\WWW.METAFILTER.COM\NONMEMBER_QUERY.MEFI" has length zero. ColdFusion cannot parse empty templates.
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General Shoutout
No real comments or complaints, sorry -- just writing to say that MeFi is very interesting and entertaining today. As it is most days. Thanks, Matt.
Is there a statute of limitation on double posts?
Seeing this thread regarding the hoary old chestnut (you know, back in 2000) of Steve Albini vs. The Music Biz and Courtney Love ripping him off begs the question:
Is there a statute of limitations on double-posts?
Since TiggleTaggleTiger is a new user (May 2001), should he get cut slack? What if a newbie - new to the Web, new to MeFi - posts this link to a great site he found called fray.com? What's the correct procedure here?
Is there a statute of limitations on double-posts?
Since TiggleTaggleTiger is a new user (May 2001), should he get cut slack? What if a newbie - new to the Web, new to MeFi - posts this link to a great site he found called fray.com? What's the correct procedure here?
Hey, I saw that on boingboing!
MeFi is going through another period of Romenesko following (here here here here). The circle of meta will continues...
Limit front page posts to once per day instead of 24 hours?
minor feature request: limit front page posts to once per day instead of 24 hours?
Why so many unowned low id numbers?
Is there a reason so many of the lower id numbers belong to no one? Are we allowed to know the reason? Will those who know the reason tell us? Please do. (O four, how lovely you are... I wish you could be mine...)
November 29
Ashcroft Deletion
Damn, Matt, you're quick - that Ashcroft link was still cooling before it was gone. Are you hovering, anxiously, all the while counting your ill-gotten $500 Monopoly bills?
(For those playing along at home, it was a link to Ashcroft's visa offer, about three paragraphs long, and if people jumped on SDB for voicing an opinion, they would have had an aneurysm from the vitriol pouring out of this guy.)
(For those playing along at home, it was a link to Ashcroft's visa offer, about three paragraphs long, and if people jumped on SDB for voicing an opinion, they would have had an aneurysm from the vitriol pouring out of this guy.)
Mefi Email
Email this MiFier: it would be nice to have the ability to contact even those MeFiers who don't have an email address on their profile page [more -->]
Mefi inserts itself into daily life
Trip Note #2 - Metafilter has inserted a new "mental discipline" into offline activities. On this trip to Europe, every time I speak with someone, read the foreign press, watch TV, etc, I often ask myself : how relevant would subject be in Metafilter's context, what would commentary thread look like. It certainly sharpens conversations. (I think Max Weber called it "unintended consequences of routinized social action") Weird symptom, or do others experience the same?
November 28
At what point does "Community Policing" become censorship?
At what point does "Community Policing" become censorship? [More inside]
"New comments" link together on one page
How about an option for the front page that would allow you to click the number of new comments and be taken to a page which contains those comments, threaded according to the corresponding post?
Has anybody kept track of Metafilter's Google PageRank?
Has anybody kept track of Metafilter's Google PageRank? (the little green bar on the Google IE toolbar...dunno how else to view it) Creeping upward, I suspect, but I'm curious. As you all know, as it increases Metafilter threads become better candidates to be included in search results. I'm seeing more and more of them.
Hey, what's going here?
Hey, what's going here? I read a very long fpp, with a comment inside saying it was too long. Now the comment has been axed, the post stays and two more very long fpps are there....
is something amiss?
is something amiss?
another day - another spoony thread removed.....
another day - another spoony thread removed.....
I didn't think this one was bad at all, what harm can there be in table tennis game all flash stylee?
one day i'll get it right.
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I didn't think this one was bad at all, what harm can there be in table tennis game all flash stylee?
one day i'll get it right.
[0)
"news items for discussion" or "interesting web stuff"
Not terribly original, but how about asking people to tag their FPPs either "news items for discussion" or "interesting web stuff." Then give people the choice in luser options to view one or both. The 'filter needs a filter.
This post should be on the poster's blog, not mefi
A post like this seems like it should be on someone's personal 'blog and not Mefi...
November 27
Swearing on FPPs
What's your opinion on using expletives on front page posts? I know they add flavor to posts, but wonder if children were to visit the site?
wait..... children reading mefi? that'll be the day.
wait..... children reading mefi? that'll be the day.
Avoiding pop-ups
Do you hate pop-up windows? Yeah, me too. Here's how to avoid them. More inside...
I want the ability to refresh a thread from within the thread.
Assuming it's technically possible, the ability to refresh a thread from within the thread.
New York Meetup
OK. Getting back to the Mefi New York Get Together open question... ...
Tonga revisited
For those like me following the Tongan jestergate, read Dave Barry. The story just leapt into about a bazillion kitchens of middle America.
There seems to be a new virus out there.
There seems to be a new virus out there. The last installment I received (about 20 overnight over several accounts) seems to corrupt the sender's e-mail address so that you can't alert them as being a victim.
Spell check
Misspelt words: please, either use Spell Check before posting or slink away silently if you make a boo-boo. Don't post a comment with the corrected spelling and your apology for it. (Do write the word three times to learn how to spell it!)
you couldn't make this stuff up
I've been reading Amanda's blog for about a month, since I accidentally discovered it. It's awful, enthralling, crude and very real. It reminds me of how important blogs can be to those who write them from the despair and confinement of their surroundings. And not only to sociologists. I'd linked to her before in a comment somewhere, but I now think she's worth a thread of her own. As y2karl remarked at the time you couldn't make this stuff up.
November 26
Strip extraneous line breaks at the end of posts.
Strip extraneous line breaks at the end of posts.
We-Fi MeFi?
We-Fi MeFi?
I think someone has my password. How do I change it?
I think someone has my password. How do I change it?
who's the wise guy who infected 9622 with an password popup for Miguel's blog?
Okay, who's the wise guy who infected "9622 with an password popup for Miguel's blog?
Do you also skip the posts?
I'm traveling far from home for first time since 9-11, and when I visit Metafilter, I find myself every time going straight to read member's comments, without first (in some cases ever) visiting the posted link. Is this shallow of me, or a simple craving for community spirit? Have others experienced this?
a free, reciprocal TextAd system
BlogSnob is a free, reciprocal TextAd system for weblogs to exchange adverts with each other on an impression for impression basis.
November 25
A great post at Poopoochoochoo
Broken html messing up the place.
What are your favorite MeFi User pages?
What are your favorite MeFi User pages? not including your own of course. I like this one, this one, this one, and this one. I like User pages that users actually use for something. What are your thoughts?
Opinion Debate
>Steven Den Beste: "But I've been informed that I'm not permitted to express opinions about what I post; I'm just supposed to post."
*cough* that's bull$#@! *cough* [more]
*cough* that's bull$#@! *cough* [more]
November 24
Is it alright to post sites that aren't in English?
Is it alright to post sites that aren't in English? I know many MeFites speak other languages, and don't see why it should be limited to English-language sites.
Is there a MeFi favicon?
Is there a MeFi favicon? You know, that little icon that comes up in the bookmarks when you bookmark a page. [more]
All about Kottke.
Why does every thread that mentions Kottke even tangentially have to end up being about Kottke?
Interestingly, the second two examples were posted by Miguel, who often ends up in the same situation.
Do we now create a new classification of "web singularity" to go along with web celebrity?
Interestingly, the second two examples were posted by Miguel, who often ends up in the same situation.
Do we now create a new classification of "web singularity" to go along with web celebrity?
But... but... one-star?!?
Metafilter in one-star review shock! But wait - we can do something about this...
Different Sort Orders for User Sites
Would it possible, without too awful much work, to add the option to be able to choose from a couple of different sort orders here?
November 23
My comment was swallowed whole on preview
This is probably the fault of my vintage programs but, for the past two days every time I've tried to preview a comment on the blue pages only, my comment was swallowed alive. Any advice?
November 22
Shift Magazine
A tree grows in San Francisco. Shift always seemed rather snooty about MeFi, and they once again left it out of their 100 top web sites (while embracing Plastic), but it was a nice surprise to find this front of the mag feature.
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adding a new piece of information to a previously discussed topic
I think this is an excellent approach for adding a new piece of information to a previously discussed topic.
Remedies for over-posters urgently needed
Remedies for over-posters urgently needed. Please bear with me and take the time to advise.
When I click on a thread, I can't save the info to my computer
When I click on a thread, (PDA, or Secret Santa story) I cannot save the info to my computer, is this a problem with a my computer(or skill) or something with MeFi?
November 21
I can't access mefi from home
I've been having a strange problem when I try to visit metafilter from home. [more]
Yasmine Bleeth FPP goes to the bit bucket: why
Why was the last post on Jasmine Bleeth erased from the front page? I'm mostly just curious since I'm still figuring out the rules on front page posting. Why was this particular thread deleted? Or do I deserve an explanation?
wehavecameras
The thread on the Amazon offer is purdy good. [more]
Link changed from print-friendly
The thread I posted earlier has had it's link redirected away from the low bandwidth "printer-friendly" version to the high bandwidth version. Why?
mini-MeFi
Y'know what? If this had the feel, functionality and all-around hoopiness of MeFi, that'd be really cool. [more]
November 20
Chronological view issues
I'm using IE5 on a Win 98 machine, and when I finish reading a thread and hit backspace to return to the front page, I'm plopped back in time to November 17, rather than the top of the thread (I view chronologically). I deleted all my Temporary Internet files, which I thought would fix it, but it's still happening. Ideas?
are the hit rates for member profiles stored anywhere
Just as a matter of interest ... are the hit rates for member profiles stored anywhere? Any chance of a league table? Wouldn't that end the debate about who is actually A-list?
Are tasteless comments being deleted from threads de rigueur?
Are tasteless comments being deleted from threads de rigueur? [more]
Updating Old Posts
What is view on posting updates/new developments/new articles in comments of one's old posts? I searched but could not find. Thanks.
November 19
Today's Mefi is brought to you by
Today’s viewing of MetaFilter is pay for by .......(more inside)
What do you think of editorializing and directing commentary?
What do you think of editorializing and directing commentary toward a discussion that the poster prefers? Particularly in the FPP text? (See Steven Den Beste's post.)
My Post Was Deleted
my last post now missing from metatalk...
It was about bad cia art.
Are there reasons for this?
Where has it gone?
Why? Why? for pities sake Why?
Spoon
It was about bad cia art.
Are there reasons for this?
Where has it gone?
Why? Why? for pities sake Why?
Spoon
November 18
How to wonder if someone is dead
The "is palegirl dead?" thread was probably not a good idea. I think of rebekah as a friend, though we have only exchanged a few emails over the years here, and I was alarmed (and still am, a little). I imagine other people were worried too. How to handle threads like these?
November 17
Who would win in a Noam Chomsky/Ralph Nader battle royal?
Who would win in a Noam Chomsky/Ralph Nader battle royal?
Lots of links in a front page post?
MeFi Seattle gathering this Monday
Reminder: MeFi Seattle gathering this Monday (the 19th) from 9pm-? at Sunset Bowls in Ballard. [original thread].
November 16
Can we rate comments like slashdot?
What do people think about a ./ -like feature allowing you to rate comments made by others, and then a filter feature allowing you to ignore comments below a certain threshold?
"x new" woes in meta
in metatalk only, once i visit "x new" for a thread (or even just the top of a thread), returning to metatalk wipes out any "x new" comment notices that had been listed before.
Posting Resumes
Ability to network/post resumes.
Does anyone think this might be useful? postget, PuD's new site, is trying this approach.
Does anyone think this might be useful? postget, PuD's new site, is trying this approach.
NEW STAR WARS TRAILER!!!!!11!
Should links be described?
Shouldn't front page posts describe the content of the linked material? Lately a few posts have offered a brief opinion of the linked material without describing it (e.g. this one, this one, and this one), which I find a bit of a nuisance because I have to dig just to find out what's going on. By no means am I trying to criticize the posters; I simply wanted to draw attention to a general trend that might need correcting. What do you think?
There is always 1 guy in the 13,000 of you...
It's things like this that make me reluctant to continue posting to MeFi. (see inside for more)
November 15
Etiquette and policy pages
Do you think that a page with links to the best etiquette and "what is the policy on...?" threads from MetaTalk would help new members get a feel for the tone that MetaFilter has had in the past?
monopolizing your own thread
Would commenting five times in 24 minutes on your own post be approaching the 'chat threshold'? Just wondering.
Do we need all this alarmist language?
are we FearFilter now? lots of alarmist language used in frontpage posts in the past few months. it seems like we're posting with language forms we've learned from major news sources, which have turned into "all-crisi-all-the-time" media channels. is it appropriate?
Request: link to deleted double threads in the main one.
I'd like to request that when a post is removed because it is a double-post, can it simply be removed from the index page and a link to it inserted into the comments for the post that is retained? Is this possible?
Cutting and pasting full article text in comments section?
What is view re cutting and pasting full article text in Mefi comments section if unavailable any other way? (I found thread re posting to subscription sites, but could not find this topic)
can we post links for other people
What is the policy on "passing on" links to metafilter?
I've been mailed by someone I don't know asking me to post a link for him (apparently he can't because of the "closed policy" ( what is this?) - but he would if he could...)
Anyhow - besides the fact that I've already posted my link for the day and so can't post his - what is the policy on this?
I've been mailed by someone I don't know asking me to post a link for him (apparently he can't because of the "closed policy" ( what is this?) - but he would if he could...)
Anyhow - besides the fact that I've already posted my link for the day and so can't post his - what is the policy on this?
Blogger now does ads (Nov. 2001)
Pyra (the Blogger company) has a new product called pyRads which promises to become a turnkey microadvertising service for webmasters, like TextAds for anyone's site.
November 14
A Mefi music/radio stream of the week
A Mefi music/radio stream of the week. Streaming is somewhat struggling, and I would love to know what's out there
Bug: comment links send me back to the top
when i try to jump to someone's specific comment in a MeTa thread, it sends me to the top of the page. [example inside]
How about a MetaFilter book club?
A thought inspired by the PJ O'Rourke thread. How about a MetaFilter book club? [more]
Is it important for Metafilter to grow its membership?
Is it important for Metafilter to grow its membership? Is it important for feature requests to be implemented? If the answer to either is yes, isn't it then the membership's challenge ( or responsibility?) to contribute more cash, or to contribute more time to help figure out how more cash can be generated. More inside.
Pull-down box for comments selections?
How about a recent comments/my comments/most comments pull down box for MeTa?
meaning of your metafilter to metatalk ratio
A diversion: what is your MetaFilter to MetaTalk ratio? Linkwise and commentwise? And what does it say about you?
This mathowie dude violated the 1 post/24 hour limit
I don't know who this "mathowie" character is, but he appears to have found a way to get past the one-post-every-24-hours limitation, posting two front-page threads within an hour of each other- probably with some super-sophisticated hack or something. Someone better close this loophole before other people start exploiting it!
November 13
NYC Meetup
Since my last proposal was hijacked by others such that I was unable to attend, I will again propose a Mefi Get Together in NYC. But this time I'll go out on a limb, proposing a rough date--a Thursday or Friday evening in December--and the venue--most controversial, I suppose--the Blah Blah Lounge in Park Slope, a 24 minute F Train ride from the Broadway Lafayette stop. Cool place; a fireplace, a few couches; a sense of adventure in coming to the Slope (see the Statute of Liberty and Ground Zero from high above Brooklyn!). Also, if anyone wants to fly in from Europe, it's about 100 minutes from JFK on the A Train + F Train (very convenient).
Six Degrees of Kottke
Six degrees of kottke. what's yours? (can't find a permalink...)
Not how we'd like others to see us, is it?
Latest entry on the The Amos n Andy Episodes List? I think I'm with Malphigan on this. Talk about a poor reflection of MetaFilter to the larger world.
when your pointless thread is deleted, you repost it.
so, yah. when your pointless thread is deleted, you repost it.
The Iraqfilter is clogged
I know that some of us are bored by news about "The War", but isn't this going just a little overboard?
November 12
Smarmy AOL
Wow, AOL re-packages a bunch of AOL user posts and sells it as a book of 9/11 remembrances. Not only that, but it's perfectly legal, thanks to their terms of service. Just as an fyi: I'll never publish a metafilter book of comments.
Boot the old, bring in the new
Apologies for being persistent re new membership. How about gracioulsy booting members off that have not posted a link after 1 (or 3 or 6) months to give eager new members a chance ? (of course, there may be no such animal)
Micropayment idea.
Idea for a web content payment system (more inside)
Signups closed, members grow
The membership number keeps going up, yet I thought the site was closed off. What am I missing?
Are subscriber-only links ok?
Do posts to the main page that lead to a "Subscriber Login" page qualify for deletion? Also, what is the preferred form of notification?
A quote from Philippe Gully on sites and advertising.
Philippe Gully: A site owing its survival only to its advertisers cannot speak freely: the advertisers could refuse to be associated to a statement or a point of view that is not his.
the law of decreasing comment length
the law of decreasing comment length: as a thread ceases to be a potentially useful resource for information and argument, its average comment length approaches 0 asymptotically. (such as here, here, and here.) other patterns are out there, i'm sure. (how about "giant comment punctuates end or near end of further commentary"?)
Is static-rendering possible?
Despite all the new RAM, at least from Europe, access is reaching 11.9 levels of difficulty. Is static-rendering possible? This time users are trusting MetaFilter more than the usual sources, as it does a great summing up job.
Queens plane crash...
Google searches, anyone?
MeFi in the Sunday Times
I hope this is the right place to post this. I've waited a day and nobody else seems to have mentioned it, but Metafilter got a nice write up in the Sunday Times (London) this weekend.
Stylesheet tweak
I made a small tweak to the main page stylesheet. On IE 5/Mac, the main post text should wrap around the sidebar on the right, instead of leaving a blank space below it. I tested it in IE 5/win2k, IE 6/XP, Opera/PC, and IE 5/Mac and it seems to be exactly the same.
November 11
Some etiquette suggestions.
This is an attempt at an improvement in regards to enforcing already established MeFi etiquette. How to curb bad MeFi linkposts. How to curb topic drift caused by potentially incendiary responses to poorly conceived MeFi frontpage linkposts. It is humbly submitted for public perusal, dissection, and judgement. Please be kind. [MORE]
What ever happened to the Mefizine?
Whatever happened to this?
A thread begging for deletion
A thread begging for deletion or to be folded into the previous thread. This is not the Tit-for-Tat Lounge, this is not a debate club, no one is scoring points.
Rememberance Day Thread Callout
Better to talk about it here than there. Thoughts on the Rememberance Day/Memorial Day[?]/Armistice Day thread?
Comments on old thread not showing up as recent
The "recent comments" version of front page doesn't show comments made on old threads, apparently.
November 10
Has anyone else found that the javascript in the spell check button isn't mac friendly?
Has anyone else found that the javascript in the spell check button isn't mac friendly?
Thread of the Week
Idea: every week, each user gets to vote for one thread as Thread of the Week. Monday, the winning thread is linked in the sidebar. Occurred to me as I was reading the smoking thread, which I almost missed completely.
Best weblog ever
Russlog. The best weblog ever. (I've got this scary, Friday-the-13th feeling about this. Is judgement day upon us?)
Back button does not show my new post
I noticed recently that now when I hit the back key after posting and get to the original thread screen, I don't see my new post there without reloading. In the past, it updated automatically, and "backing up" to it would find it already updated. Struck me as interesting, and I wonder if this was an intentional change or a byproduct of some other change?
Mmmm Circus Peanuts.
We're up to 12,500 users
12500, everyone. Lovely round number.
[will be posted in metafilter >> feature requests]
In the preview view of the post I just made, it said "[will be posted in metafilter >> feature requests]." Shouldn't that say MetaTalk, not Metafilter?
Can we have years, please?
Threads are identified with a day and month, but not a year. Now that there are a couple years' worth of archive, it happens that people link to an older thread from a previous year, and when one goes to that page, all we see is something like "March 30." In many cases, placing the thread in its proper timeframe is extremely relevant. Is there any way to mark these with the year so that we know if we are dealing with March 30, 2001, March 30, 2000, March 30, 1999? This will only become more of a problem as the years go by.
I see a blank page before me
Lofi Mefi's style sheet suggests a text and background color for body (black on white). This is fine unless some moron (i.e., me) has default colors of mint green text on a black background with white links. The mint green and black background are overridden but the white links end up on your white background.
Assuming a user's default link color is blue could lead to unreadable links, so please add at least colors for links (there already is a color on a:hover, but no background). (Alternately, if you want, remove all color suggestions from the style sheet.)
Assuming a user's default link color is blue could lead to unreadable links, so please add at least colors for links (there already is a color on a:hover, but no background). (Alternately, if you want, remove all color suggestions from the style sheet.)
November 9
Posting personal information from a member's site with the intention of ridiculing them?
Posting personal information from a member's site with the intention of ridiculing them?
Self-linking boundary question.
Self-posting question:
I know it is poor form for me to post a front page link to my own web site. What about to a site that I have other involvement in? For example, say I were Editor in Chief of a newspaper and I post a link to a controversial article from said paper. Is that bad? Does it make a difference if I am up front about my involvement in the paper?
Just trying to get a feel for what the community standards are.
I know it is poor form for me to post a front page link to my own web site. What about to a site that I have other involvement in? For example, say I were Editor in Chief of a newspaper and I post a link to a controversial article from said paper. Is that bad? Does it make a difference if I am up front about my involvement in the paper?
Just trying to get a feel for what the community standards are.
My friend wants to sign up
A friend from Oakland told me two nights go night she was unable to register to become a member? Was there a problem with the site, or is she daft (my view).
November 8
I hate ending up here
Argh - I hate ending up here. But Sue knew that already, didn't she? *wiggles eyebrows, X-Files theme*
status message not updating correctly.
status message not updating correctly. I log on periodically and noticed today that though it says "no new links posted" (since my last visit) There are in fact several.
I'm using IE 5.5.4522
I'm using IE 5.5.4522
November 7
Being picky about comment format
Good, bad or ugly? He basically changed the formatting of his comment. Is this acceptable? Can I make my comments any width I'd like? Why do bad things happen to good people?
Metafilter Classified Ads
i'm noticing that 1) more of us of us are needing work these days, and 2) matt needs help with a revenue stream. what about MetaSchmooze? (more inside)
Circulate this web address to you friends and neighbours. Don't depend on others.
Turn Mefi in a telemarketing call to support your charity of choice. Do the right thing. I said so. So do it now.
Reformatting breaking links
Preview and Post Broken in Netscape
Users can't preview or post comments in Netscape 6x. When you click the preview button the preview, form field and form button areas show up blank. I've experienced this on NS6.1 and NS6.2 on both MetaFilter and MetaTalk. This has only been happening over the past few days. (I think this bug may be related to this bug, but I'm not sure. For some reason I can't view source on the preview page.)
Metafilter in novel form
"MetaFilter," he repeated testily. The truth was he hated his own site. An unruly beast broken free of its chains and now whipped about by an unruly mob intent on banishing Salon links and killing anyone linking directly to a rich media presentation without due warning. I had stopped going months ago before it became trendy and horribly chic - or before Haughey's magazine spread appeared on the stands, replete with his naked, supine form in the centerfold, scars and all.
November 6
Better than Google Images?
Help: can anybody point me to the thread where they discussed various image-search engines better than google's? I think the original post was about one that used some sort of fuzzy logic system instead of just keywords.
Caching issues, maybe?
Whenever I have visited MeFi index.html today, and I am not logged in, I only see posts up to about 10 a.m. today (11/6). (I use a lot of public machines over the course of the day, so that's why I'm never logged in. It's also why I'm sure it's not a cache issue.)
What is the correct form of address here at MetaFilter? Real names or screen names?
What is the correct form of address here at MetaFilter? Or isn't there one? Real names seem to be used more and more. In this thread holgate and ljromanoff address each other as Lance and Nick. Can we use a real name when we know it - by exchanging emails with someone, for instance? Isn't it confusing for everyone else? Does it make others feel left out? (Examples inside.)
Discussing discussion: discuss.
Lately, many people have been promoting concepts such as MetaDiscuss, which implicitly attack the concept of discussion on MeFi. But is this what we really want? [More inside.]
Weird Code in Comments
It may be just me, but in just the last couple of days I'm finding that my comments are being auto-appended with extra <p>, resulting in a few lines of blank space after my comments but before the comment footer. At first I figured it was just me being careless with extra <p> tags lying around in my post, but it's happening every time and this test post exhibited the same behavior. In the second paragraph, I typed the line and inserted no paragraph or br tags, and didn't even hit return to start a new line- yet after hitting "Post" there are extra <p> tags in the HTML after posting. Thoughts?
Tweak the post generator to search MeTa as well as MeFi for links?
Tweak the post generator to search MeTa as well as MeFi for links?
Compiling a best of Metafilter
I was thinking of doing a list of "best of" threads for metafilter, on the archives page. Do you recall any of the best threads that meet the following criteria? If so, post them here as a comment.
How about by topic?
threads on:
globalization: (I know there were at least a couple great, civil, long threads about it)
prisions: (among the 5 or 6 in recent memory there must be one or two good ones)
abortion:
homosexuality:
SUVs:
death penalty:
huge news threads: (the biggest kaycee one, the seattle earthquake, and the first WTC one?)
good audience participation threads:
good weird finds? best thing for $30 threads? Just plain good threads that don't meet any of the above criteria?
If you have any favorites, post a link to them, and I'll try to organize them. Think about the best MetaFilter has to offer, and find those threads that exemplify what the site can be.
How about by topic?
threads on:
globalization: (I know there were at least a couple great, civil, long threads about it)
prisions: (among the 5 or 6 in recent memory there must be one or two good ones)
abortion:
homosexuality:
SUVs:
death penalty:
huge news threads: (the biggest kaycee one, the seattle earthquake, and the first WTC one?)
good audience participation threads:
good weird finds? best thing for $30 threads? Just plain good threads that don't meet any of the above criteria?
If you have any favorites, post a link to them, and I'll try to organize them. Think about the best MetaFilter has to offer, and find those threads that exemplify what the site can be.
November 5
From where is 'what he said' derived?
Just an idle question: From where is 'What he said' derived? Or 'she,' 'te,' 'it' or *name*... I saw it here first and then heard some character on the now even more craptacular than ever! Andromeda say it: The TV was on when I was writing something last night... So, somebody clue me in here as to where, when, why and how this expression came to be. Just wonderin'...
X New Comments Disappears on MeTa
Unlike the behaviour at Metafilter itself, here on Metatalk, after I arrive at the new flat front page with the (x new) flags on threads, if I click into a thread to read the comments then hit the back button on my browser, I seem to be losing my (x new) flags.
Are you a blogaholic?
Are You A Blogaholic? [via The Umbrella Stand, via anonstupid via almost-empty, from Weblog Wannabe]
MeTa: Sort By My Comments?
Would it be easy to put a Sort By My Comments (and maybe by recent comments too) into MeTa?
Who owns complete Metafilter threads?
Lets assume some one out there believes a particular Mefi thread can potentially have value in other media (eg, TV script, syndicated column, book, etc) I undersatnd authors own their own posts (if I read Mefi correctly) but who legally owns the complete thread? Am I thinking about this correctly?
Pony Request: Setting for LoFi to be default?
Re: LoFi MeFi, I really like it, but also keep forgetting to use it. I've got a huge bookmarks list, and still manually type most of my addresses, for some reason. Could this be added to the prefs screen, so those of us who want to use it just get redirected?
Blogging is now a job.
November 4
Are marketers using mefi to create buzz?
anybody else ever wonder if marketer's are secretly using mefi to create buzz about their products?
Now xml-rpc compliant
MetaFilter now conforms with the new Weblogs.com xml-rpc interface. I used this xml-rpc client/server for Coldfusion to wrap a simple request/response sent to weblogs.com whenever a new thread is made at MetaFilter.com.
Lileks to have pay option.
Lileks to have pay option. It's returning to its full-bandwidth glory and: "I’m going to try something new here. The site, as it was, will still be free. But instead of putting up new stuff willy-nilly, I’m going to create a members section. Every Monday, a new peculiarity from the Institute’s gargantuan archives. Pictures, money, ads, early 60s British men’s magazine pinups, matchbooks, and many other peculiarities. A year’s subscription: $25." Well, count me in.
Racist insults
Take that, 'effete faggot web-designer towelheads'. Ouch - that hurt. Maybe my partner Achmed can drag himself away from his style sheets for a minute and make me feel better. Is this liver fresh?
Post formatting
Is something in the posting code deliberately down-casing all the text in a link? In this thread there were two attempts to post a NYT link which included upper case letters and both failed, so the link was posted directly as text to be cut and pasted.
the comment submit box has my user password stored as clear text
I was looking at the source in the Auto-close Open Tags thread, and I noticed that the comment submit box has my user password stored as clear text. It's not like MeTa/MeFi need to be highly secure, but I'm wondering if there is a better way to handle that.
What can MetaFilter learn from This American Life?
In forever searching for a bridge to close the gap between those who want more restrictive MeFi Guidelines and those who want less, I've recently found myself comparing recent MeFi discussions to how TAL submissions get on the show. Or Ira Glass' basic Radio Principles. What can MetaFilter learn from This American Life?
What site was this??
I discovered a web site a while back whose URL I seem to have lost. It was a site that exposed web design thieves by posting screenshots of their sites next to similar, older, better known designs.
Anyone know what site this is?
Anyone know what site this is?
You can now leave tags open wily nily on MetaTalk
You can now leave tags open wily nily on MetaTalk (coming soon to MetaFilter).
This is a test to make sure unclosed tags get closed. Of course it will work. (I purposefully left the bold and italics tags open on this post
This is a test to make sure unclosed tags get closed. Of course it will work. (I purposefully left the bold and italics tags open on this post
November 3
I can't post. :-(
I can't post. :-(
I entered my post, did a preview, and I'm ready to go. I'm at the
http://www.metafilter.com/contribute/post_preview.mefi page and
hit the POST button. It just keeps bringing me back to the same place.
I am running Opera 5.0 under Linux.
I entered my post, did a preview, and I'm ready to go. I'm at the
http://www.metafilter.com/contribute/post_preview.mefi page and
hit the POST button. It just keeps bringing me back to the same place.
I am running Opera 5.0 under Linux.
Metatalk comment previews don't work in Mozilla.
New bug: metatalk comment previews don't work in Mozilla. I hit the preview button, and I get the "Comment Preview:" text, nothing, then links to the home pages. The page source says "error resolving parameter". (The previews work fine @ metafilter, and for metatalk *posting* like I'm doing now; and they all work OK in IE.)
Guess what kids? The MetaFilter search finally works!
Guess what kids? The MetaFilter search finally works!
"...Free, Easy Instant Discussion Space...."
I stumbled across "...Free, Easy Instant Discussion Space...." at www.quicktopic.com (sorry, can't get link to work) Seems anyone can instantly set-up Metafilter-like community blogs/boards. Are there many others like it out there ? Is this good or bad for Metafilter?
Better search, fewer doubles
I improved the search "previously found" feedback. Here is what you see if you search for something that was posted less than 5 times in the database, and here is what you see if you post a URL that is in there more than that. Hopefully this will cut down on double-posts.
November 2
Problem posting comments
Apologies in advance if this is a really dumb problem, but I can't post a comment to MeFi. Just when I'd finally got up the courage to join in!
I log in, type my comment & press [Preview] and it just takes me back to the login screen. I have tried logging out & in again, it didn't help. Does anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
This is my first post here too - maybe this won't work either...
I log in, type my comment & press [Preview] and it just takes me back to the login screen. I have tried logging out & in again, it didn't help. Does anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
This is my first post here too - maybe this won't work either...
What do you guys think?
Is every post just looking for opinions? Of the past 6 posts, 4 of them are just posting links to random pop culture links, and asking "What do you guys think?" [more inside]
Thread and Comment Nofications
idea (or has this been suggested before?):
what if each thread and comment had a "notify" link next to it; click the link and you get a pop-up window asking if you'd like to send the note, and if you clicked yes, a notification would be sent to matt, saying "this thread needs your attention" or "this comment needs your attention".
that way, people could notify matt of double posts and flamewars while they were reading the thread; this would eliminate the need for matt to constantly monitor the board himself, and potentially cut down on all those annoying double post comments.
the note could either send a separate email to matt, or it could just send a note telling him to go to a page that would compile the red flags by thread. he could see at a glance that 1 person flagged thread (a) and 12 flagged thread (b), and so on. this page would have check boxes next to each comment that had been flagged, so that matt could delete each notice once he had dealt with the trouble post.
if that seems like it would generate too much mail for matt, then a hybrid "star chamber/notification system" : this feature would be activated for 20 active, trusted members (preferably in various time zones).
the main result of this feature would be to eliminate the need for matt to continuously monitor the board himself, while at the same time ensuring that he makes all the calls regarding the appropriateness of any given post.
does my description make sense, and is this an idea that would save you time, matt?
what if each thread and comment had a "notify" link next to it; click the link and you get a pop-up window asking if you'd like to send the note, and if you clicked yes, a notification would be sent to matt, saying "this thread needs your attention" or "this comment needs your attention".
that way, people could notify matt of double posts and flamewars while they were reading the thread; this would eliminate the need for matt to constantly monitor the board himself, and potentially cut down on all those annoying double post comments.
the note could either send a separate email to matt, or it could just send a note telling him to go to a page that would compile the red flags by thread. he could see at a glance that 1 person flagged thread (a) and 12 flagged thread (b), and so on. this page would have check boxes next to each comment that had been flagged, so that matt could delete each notice once he had dealt with the trouble post.
if that seems like it would generate too much mail for matt, then a hybrid "star chamber/notification system" : this feature would be activated for 20 active, trusted members (preferably in various time zones).
the main result of this feature would be to eliminate the need for matt to continuously monitor the board himself, while at the same time ensuring that he makes all the calls regarding the appropriateness of any given post.
does my description make sense, and is this an idea that would save you time, matt?
Comment Limits Per Thread?
Now that each subscriber is limited to starting one thread a day, isn't it time to limit the number of comments per thread that a subscriber can post? With unlimited commentary, it's just unfocused chat.
November 1
Category field
We already know that each thread has an (unused) category field.
Any chance that the following process can happen:
1. Categories are decided.
2. A team then allocates each thread to a category. (Happy to do it myself)
3. sports.metafilter, politics.metafilter etc. resolve to categories.
???
Any chance that the following process can happen:
1. Categories are decided.
2. A team then allocates each thread to a category. (Happy to do it myself)
3. sports.metafilter, politics.metafilter etc. resolve to categories.
???
What if Matt has it backwards?
What if Matt has it backwards? Maybe people ought to get front-page posting priviledges first and discussion priviledges later. Is MeFi a community 'blog or a discussion board?
Random Metafilter for those who missed it.
Get Your War On updated
There's a new a new update to the hilarious "Get Your War On" comic that was the subject of this post. Now there's a page two and a page three. Since the original page was linked already, this would be a double post on MeFi, right? But it's okay in MetaTalk, right? Or should the updates just be mentioned in the comments of the original post where no one wil see them?
Metafilter stats are online.
Metafilter stats are online. Traffic dropped only slightly from September's unbelievable growth, and the jump in user signups was minimal compared to the previous month. Days from September and October dominate the top 20 charts.
Overrun by injokes
Well, so much for serious discussion...I might as well join in Another discussion I was interested in reading gets strangled in the crib by haiku posts, pancake gags, or self-perpetuating running jokes.
Less obscenity please
The America's Terrorist Training Camp thread prompts me to suggest that the obscenity filter be turned up on Mefi and be more of a basis for being "evicted." Obscenity is an excellent predictor of uncivilized, vapid, ad hominem debate. Not a ban on it, just less. Please.
Search users function?
How useful would a "Search Users" function be? You could search for a particular username, or location, or whatever. There have been times where I wondered how many people were from a particular city (or at least owned up to it in their user profile). How difficult and/or useful would something like this be?
(BTW, Matt, the copyright at the bottom of MeTa still says 2000.)
(BTW, Matt, the copyright at the bottom of MeTa still says 2000.)
Killfile request
I don't know if this has been mentioned or suggested before; but, regarding all the talk of 'stupid posts' and 'useless comments' --- what if matt built in an "ignore this user" feature? Then all posts from that user would never appear on your screen, all the comments would be blanked out with " *** this comment ignored ***"; or you could have your choice -- ignore posts but not comments. And then you could have a user admin screen that lets you see everyone you're ignoring. that way, you could periodically check and see if they've gotten better and you don't care to ignore them anymore.
again, i don't know if this has already been discussed. i searched for it but couldn't find anything. just a thought.
again, i don't know if this has already been discussed. i searched for it but couldn't find anything. just a thought.
How to I use the image tag?
I have noticed some comment posts have images....is this "allowed" and if so, how does an oaf like me do it too? (Advanced apologies for my ignorance. I did search but couldnt find the answer.)
MeTa links on user.mefi/[number] but not username.mefi/[name]
Minor detail: going to user.mefi/[number] you get links to a user's MeTa threads and comments - very useful - but going to username.mefi/[name] you don't.
MeFi Seattle Meetup
How 'bout a MeFiSea too? There's a ton of us. Let's party. I'm free and newly relieved of domestic duties. Any idears?