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Good FPP derail belongs in Metatalk?

After seeing this thread denigrate into a debate over the question of whether it was a good FPP or not, I started wondering: is a metatalk thread an appropriate vehicle for trying to divert etiquette debate out a blue thread even when the metatalk thread itself is likely to turn into a rehash of a zillion other metatalk threads?
posted by boltman on Dec 7, 2002 - 19 comments

Am I missing something?

Am I missing something? John Gilmore and Cory Doctorow are asking us to harass total strangers by phoning them at home. [more inside]
posted by y6y6y6 on Dec 3, 2002 - 31 comments

A clean, responsible, and non-snarky way to deal with a funged link

Thanks sebas. A clean, responsible, and non-snarky way to deal with a funged link for the benefit of the community.
posted by PrinceValium on Dec 3, 2002 - 8 comments

This is not supposed to be a theology debate.

This is not supposed to be a theology debate. Although I don't mind walking the line because I am interested in people's reactions and interpretations of a natural phenomenon. But I don't want my first FPP yanked because people couldn't at least flame on topic and the topic is HIV, how it works and what it looks like.
posted by wobh on Dec 1, 2002 - 19 comments

big, bad idea

This post Shows why giving users control over font size is a bad idea.
posted by nyxxxx on Nov 30, 2002 - 51 comments

Why did my post get deleted?

I, uh, made a fpp about 3 hours ago which eventually got deleted. Granted the cracks.am site probably shouldn't have been linked but could someone tell me what I did wrong? No need to flame, you can email me too. Thanks.
posted by PWA_BadBoy on Nov 25, 2002 - 18 comments

"not safe for people who don't want to see gay porn?"

Question in regards to WolfDaddy posting a link labelled not safe for work or people who haven't seen Queer as Folk. Shouldn't that have read "not safe for people who don't want to see gay porn?" I'm pretty sure what I saw, but I don't want to double-check. Just let me know if that was fair warning or I should sue for temporary blindness.
posted by son_of_minya on Nov 20, 2002 - 93 comments

Informative, but...

Welcome to "Me"tafilter.
posted by Wulfgar! on Nov 13, 2002 - 51 comments

Is it bad form to invoke the name of another mefite in a thread they are not participating in?

I was recently reprimanded in a thread (politely, I should add), for invoking the name of a mefi regular who was not a participant in that thread at the time.

Is this poor form on my part, or is *the mefi who must not be named* being over-sensitive?
posted by backOfYourMind on Nov 13, 2002 - 15 comments

Warnings for FPPs

[Bracket Etiquette]: For the benefit of users old and new and Metafilter usability in general, what warnings are considered essential or helpful when posting to the front page? [Possible list inside.]
posted by MiguelCardoso on Nov 4, 2002 - 29 comments


Is Metafilter the place to post PSAs now?
posted by rushmc on Nov 1, 2002 - 46 comments


The lovely and talented JonnyX says: MCWETBOY-------------so go play on your own blog then you dipshit. if you dont like it here then FUCK OFF.

In a word, "no".
posted by mcwetboy on Oct 30, 2002 - 110 comments

A warning would be good when you link you crazy racist propaganda.

I am more than fed up of this sort of nonsense being posted to MeFi. Can we give some sort of community time-out or other shot over the bows here? [See also here.]

Kablam: were you not content with comments like this last time?
"...I'd think a site should at least have to have a shred of legitimacy to rate a front-page link here...
I find it doubtful that there is anything on this website that is not a lie...You know, being linked to by MeFi is going to make this nazi's guy's day...It's not out of line to expect some sort of warning, if the post has a link of questionable nature...Crap link=Crap Post...we don't want to give these assholes hits..."Various posters
posted by dash_slot- on Oct 28, 2002 - 18 comments

Is there a general rule about posting links from popular sites like Plastic, Digg, etc.?

After reading this article, which was linked at Plastic, I was tempted to post it here, at MeFi, but then I decided not to. Isn't Plastic a popular site among MeFi readers, and wouldn't posting this link be redundant? Is there a general rule about posting from popular sites, or does it always come down to a hunch?
posted by Beholder on Oct 24, 2002 - 27 comments

Where are all the lefties?

This comment, made by red cell, is way over the line.
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood on Oct 22, 2002 - 122 comments

Don't be jerks to folks with lupus

"I've got Lupus." You're a werewolf!? No wonder you don't go outside. I'm no model MeFite, but this struck me as particularly offensive, inappropriate, and sophmoric, especially in the context of the thread. Sharing too much personal information is discouraged, but I don't think anybody deserves this amount of disrespect.
posted by eddydamascene on Oct 20, 2002 - 51 comments

Don't derail to recommend me a different browser

AnnoyanceFilter! [Much more inside...]
posted by Danelope on Oct 17, 2002 - 41 comments

"When does a thread cross the line...?"

Threads should be bias and threads should be made to provoke thought. However when does a thread cross the line of appropriate and thought provoking into the realm of insults and claptrap? What about this one or this one (self-post)? Should the inmates do the policing? If so, how can it policed? If a weblog is a form "journalism" should there be some sort of code of ethics? Or guidelines for objectivity?
posted by Bag Man on Oct 16, 2002 - 19 comments

furthering marginalization

im not happy with the fpp treating the homeless as though they were vermin. out of order.
(dont know how to link to it)
posted by sgt.serenity on Oct 15, 2002 - 25 comments

Can we stop with the ad hominem comments, please?

Grrr. Can we stop with the ad hominem comments, please? You don't need to repeat someone's "It's ugly!" comment over and over again. And over again. And then again. And then repeat the last person who said it again. And then repeat the repeat. And quote the last repeat to agree with it. And then say ditto. (See how annoying that gets?)

Probably a better question: Do we have guidelines for posting a good comment? Should we?
posted by SpecialK on Oct 11, 2002 - 61 comments

What is the MetaFilter styleguide on capitalization of titles?

Looking at MetaFilter's front page, one finds an awesome variety of styles regarding capitalization of titles. Is there a preferred style? Which one better enhances readability? I'm not proposing uniformization - just asking what fellow members find most congenial.
posted by MiguelCardoso on Oct 11, 2002 - 62 comments

How long do we wait for what's inside?

So here's a minor issue, strictly for decompression purposes: How long should we wait for someone to post his/her "More Inside" supplement? Matt recently rebuked ZachsMind and indeed deleted his offending comment because he leapt too soon, saying: "(...)you didn't wait until I had gotten my chance to finish my "more" post(...)". Yesterday y2Karl played the same trick on me.

Should it be ten or fifteen minutes? Or doesn't it matter? My own opinion is that one should just wait until the supplement is posted - unless it's demonstrably not forthcoming. Isn't jumping the gun just another version of annoying, pre-emptive thread sabotage? Or is it, somehow, fun?
posted by MiguelCardoso on Oct 5, 2002 - 38 comments

Posted old material - is this OK?

After I posted this link, I noticed it was a year old. It's not a repost, but is this bad form?
posted by monkeymike on Oct 2, 2002 - 3 comments

America: Love it or leave it

Iran? Berlin? Or maybe we should just shoot ourselves because we all hate America so much. Does MetaFilter have a term yet that abbreviates "Telling me I should leave the country because I disagree with your viewpoint is a tired, wasted, pathetic retort, and all it does is make you look like a loser with nothing new to contribue to the conversation?" Maybe if we make one we can discourage its apparent growing abuse. Thanks, all.
posted by XQUZYPHYR on Sep 28, 2002 - 52 comments

Being trolled from the outside

Is he baiting us? Noted ex-Mefite Steven Den Beste, in self-imposed exile, says he left because we got "stranger and stranger" and, according to him, the inmates are still running the asylum. Are we guilty of lefty groupthink, or is SDB focusing on the posts that annoy him and ignoring the diversity of opinions here, and quit in a huff because we wouldn't all agree with him? (Note: we've talked about him before on Metatalk.)
posted by mcwetboy on Sep 25, 2002 - 83 comments

Help a Newbie!

I'm new to Metafilter, at least as a poster anyway, and I have been less than satisfied with the quality of my comments, especially my front page post. I think my dissatisfaction comes from my lack of experience in posting to a forum that has such a high expectation for quality. This tends to create a bit of hesitation in my posting, which results in over editing and an extremely stiff writing style. Of course the best way to overcome that, is by commenting frequently in order to become more comfortable and fluid in my comments and post. The downside to that, of course, is the possibility of tripping all over myself, in an otherwise quality message thread. This is very frustrating to me, because I see the type of poster I want to become, and I'm not sure how to get from here to there.

Making matters more difficult is my lack of computer knowledge. As an example, I love the option of renaming a url, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to edit multiple urls into a single paragraph.

If anyone has any helpful hints on how to gain experience as a front page poster, without making a mess of things in the process, I'd love to hear them. I've also sniffed around the web looking for a handy guide to url editing, and I've not had any luck, so if anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.

posted by Beholder on Sep 24, 2002 - 33 comments

Listing links on user profile pages

To avoid cluttering up the front page, is it OK for those of us who come across a lot of interesting links to use our user pages to list some of those we'd like to share but probably won't merit much discussion? I'm worried about using up bandwidth and the old accusation of using MetaFilter as one's personal blog.

If it's OK, what's the acceptable limit? Would five or six links be acceptable? Or should the opportunity be used (as some, like Zachsmind, have done) to list some of our favourite MetaFilter threads, for example? Please advise.
posted by MiguelCardoso on Sep 20, 2002 - 32 comments

Are you a MeFi Lefty or a MeFi Righty?

Are you a MeFi Lefty or a MeFi Righty? I honestly don't get what comments like this one are getting at, or what they would prefer to see happen here. The lack of specificity in most of these complaints doesn't help. I see good and bad arguments getting called out regularly, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum. What am I missing?
posted by mediareport on Sep 15, 2002 - 60 comments

Mea Culpa.

I apologise in advance for my transgression. Methinks I may have gone a bit far...
posted by Smart Dalek on Sep 11, 2002 - 25 comments

how not to win friends and influence people

"ps to all the "spell check" asswipes I have compromised my systems security to please you now go away."

hoopyfrood is making friends and influencing people all over the place
posted by Irontom on Sep 10, 2002 - 84 comments

Can't well all just get along?

Can't well all just get along? To an extent I can accept the 14k+ crowd misbehaving for awhile — at least till they pick-up on 'Metaquette' — but others should know better than to feed the trolls or fan flamebait.
posted by nathan_teske on Sep 9, 2002 - 74 comments

Less is more...

'No link here...'

Then don't post. Less is more...
posted by i_cola on Sep 9, 2002 - 47 comments

Stop picking on the n00bs

I'd like to suggest that there might be a bit of a danger these days of stripping some potential away from the site. A lot of new users are being called out (or belittled) rather promiscuously for posts or comments that are often no different than what they have been accustomed to seeing from Metafilter elders pre-14k (as well as post-14k). Vigilance is worthy and needed in order to protect the integrity of Metafilter, but I suspect that there is a risk of creating an atmosphere of paranoia in which many promising new members will be afraid to post anything that they are not absolutely certain will not reap condemnation. (more inside...)
posted by taz on Sep 7, 2002 - 63 comments

What is with these peeps?

Having just posted a comment, and having had a pang of worry over an unintentional snarkiness implied by an italicisation, i continued to the thread on james randi which seems to be about to blow up due to the charming "Fuck you and your know-nothing smugness." comment. An unanswearble, i guess, but what is with these peeps?
posted by robself on Sep 6, 2002 - 32 comments

Can comments only be enabled once the links have been opened?

I wonder if it wouldn't improve the discussions if the comment feature would only come up after the posted link was visited. Too often reactions are to the post and previous comments, rather than the issue posited in the link.
posted by semmi on Sep 6, 2002 - 13 comments

Good warcrimes post destroyed by personal attacks in discussion

I am disturbed by the conversations attacking the original poster in F&M's post on warcrimes (sorry I don't know how to hyperlink without the button.) I found the post well reasoned, free of ideology, and providing important considerations regarding future military action in Iraq. If someone had a legitimate complaint about the post it seems it should have been made here. To denegrate the post, the poster, and those who responded thanking the poster seems juvenial and small minded.
posted by pjgulliver on Sep 5, 2002 - 72 comments

Just because it's "another Coulter thread"

Hi, Jack. Just because it's "another Coulter thread" doesn't mean raysmj ought to piss all over it with his off-topic opinions on proper journalistic style. How many other threads have been similarly derailed by snarks on the writing style or site design of the linked page?
posted by mcwetboy on Sep 5, 2002 - 64 comments

Broken URLs on Metafilter

I don't know if its just in IE or what, but several posts, the Gnod and plasticmonkey.com post are the most recent examples, point to http://www.metafilter.com/www.gnod.net (for example). I looked at the source, and this only happens on the posts that don't specify http. Is this an IE only thing, or does that always happen?
posted by Grod on Aug 30, 2002 - 6 comments

MeFi post degenerating into holocaust debate

The development of a fun-mefi posting into a debate about the nature of the holocaust - any productive outcome imaginable?
posted by zerofoks on Aug 29, 2002 - 6 comments

namecalling in mefi al qaeda/iraq thread

No, dumbass... this isn't a war on weapons of mass destruction... it isn't a war on the fucking "concept" of terrorism, wherever it rears it's ugly metaphorical head... Al Queda is a threat to us. Iraq is a threat to us. Do i have to spell it out for you morons? it's a war on threats to us. motherfucking DUH.

Inexcusable. I could say more, but it would get ugly.
posted by rushmc on Aug 26, 2002 - 26 comments

Did I do something wrong?

I'm sorry, I'm new here. Did I do something wrong? I realize I derailed the thread from the start (for that I apologize), but somehow I became the poster boy for two warring sides in a flame war riddled with insults and heated emotions. I like to think I tried to maintain a civil discourse at the beginning, unfortunately I went to sleep when it got really nasty. Should I have not posted at all? What went wrong here, I would like to know for future reference.
posted by Stan Chin on Aug 26, 2002 - 99 comments


Dismissiveness. [more inside]
posted by mr_crash_davis on Aug 16, 2002 - 38 comments

Callout: comments in Asian bride spoof going to far?

I'll bet that makes her a Sour Kraut... in this episode, Perigee goes all Don Quixote...
posted by Perigee on Aug 4, 2002 - 89 comments

Easing the transition for new users.

20 neophytes a day - and I'm one of yesterday's crop. Fresh-faced, clean-skinned...

As a Content Editor at Everything2, I'm intimately acquainted with the stickiness inherent in introducing new people to an online community (especially a content-oriented community, as opposed to activity-, hobby-, or interest-oriented ones). There seems to be a dearth of documentation. I guess this site is pretty self-explanatory, which is refreshing - I've been an E2 user for two and a half years and I still occasionally scratch my big, fat head. Also, after such a long, long time with no new users (I know it was a long time because I spent a long time checking the new user page), you guys must be experiencing something of a shock, too.

Any ideas as to what could be done to ease the transition for newbies and allay the angst, if any, of the old guard?

Feel free to kill this if I'm out of line, long-winded or otherwise. I'm a new at this.
posted by bingbangbong on Aug 2, 2002 - 85 comments

When does a newbie stop being a newbie?

I'm just curious, could someone please tell me when a newbie stops being a newbie? How is this decided and by whom?
posted by Tarrama on Jul 28, 2002 - 44 comments

Arguments over definitions.

Hey Matt, you should start a new subsite called MetaWord. Visitors would contribute single word posts, like Heart, or Hero, or Terrorist or Gallbladder and then everyone can argue about what the word means and did mean and should mean and would mean if we all spoke Esperanto and wore those hats with the fruit on them.

Alternatively -- and this might even be a better idea, if possible -- MetaWord would have regular posts, but comments would be limited to one word. You could even do away with the textfield and just give people a dropdown box with preselected words like 'Doublepost!,' 'Racist!,' 'Troll!' 'Nazi!' 'Liberal!' 'Kitties!' and '*yawn*'. And then we could argue about the meaning of the word "yawn."
posted by Shadowkeeper on Jul 24, 2002 - 48 comments

NYT Guidelines

If you're posting an NYTimes link, can you please try to follow this guideline:

Another tough day for Wall Street (auto). Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetaur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

I put the HTML code on the inside.
posted by geoff. on Jul 10, 2002 - 16 comments

Use of "retard" draws ire

apparently, i'm a 'navel-gazing twit', but i'm just wondering: when are the developmentally disabled going to get the same degree of respect we afford the niggers, kikes, bitches, wetbacks, and gooks?
posted by mlang on Jul 9, 2002 - 156 comments

Not GrammarFilter

Could we possibly make an effort to try to appreciate the content of a given site, rather than have every other link derailed by some niggling critcism of the webmaster's use of fonts/flash/javascript/punctuation?
posted by Optamystic on Jul 7, 2002 - 86 comments

What constitutes movement?

What constitutes movement?
[more inside]
posted by Su on Jun 19, 2002 - 30 comments

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